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(The American Spectator)   Conservatives are upset that 12 Years a Slave didn't represent a 'kind master or a contented slave'... because you know... most slaves were happy   (spectator.org) divider line 469
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2014-03-10 05:58:58 PM  

FlashHarry: MrSteve007: While there certainly were terrible slave owners (and the simple fact that slavery in itself is terrible), there were many cases where freed slaves stayed with the previous "owners" by choice, as paid servants.

But lets not let that get in the way of a good internet argument!

wait... so you're saying that owning of human beings as property isn't all that bad?

Yep - that's exactly what I said . . . if you chose to ignore what was written.
 
2014-03-10 05:59:07 PM  

Molavian: Yeah, and how about how hard Democrats kept fighting to keep blacks down?  F*cking liberals.


Yeah, like how the Democrats packed the SCOUTUS with a bunch of biased hacks and shot holes in key pieces of the Voting Rights Act so that the South could go back to disenfranchising their black communities.
 
2014-03-10 05:59:42 PM  

skrame: InterruptingQuirk: Will Solomon's own words condemn me for sharing them?

[img.fark.net image 575x899]

Wow; not a single response.

/not all conservatives are the same, dammit
//not much of a conservative


Stockholm syndrome?
 
2014-03-10 05:59:45 PM  
African Americans should just get over the issues of slavery and racism because that happened long ago and we are past that now.

However never forget the War of Northern Aggression because that is a matter of honor.
 
2014-03-10 05:59:54 PM  

PunGent: That's sadly correct, even ignoring the vast slave markets in Africa; most slaves were initially bought from fellow blacks after being captured in tribal raids.


i was aware that tribes sold their enemies into slavery in west africa, which is of course abhorrent. but he was implying that american blacks owned slaves.
 
2014-03-10 06:00:11 PM  
Am I the only one thinking of Granny Cuyler from "Squidbillies" in the episode where it's revealed that she was a slave? This article reminded me a HELL of a lot of that episode, lol.
 
2014-03-10 06:01:08 PM  
What a load of crap.  The real outrage here is that some black guy is using Steve McQueen's name.

This is Steve McQueen:

2.bp.blogspot.com

He's the friggin' King of Cool.

The Great Escape
Bullit
Towering Inferno
Pappillon
Le Mans
The Blob

What's next?

Is some black kid from England going to be the next John Wayne?
 
2014-03-10 06:01:20 PM  

Makh: I...uh...what?  But it was his own farking memoir of the experience.  Should he have written in a dance number with singing animals just to make people feel better about his life?


You'd be amazed how many people think being annoyed at someone for having a shiatty life is a valid point of view.
 
2014-03-10 06:03:57 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-10 06:05:02 PM  
The Republican minority outreach initiative is going to pay off any day now.
 
2014-03-10 06:05:06 PM  
remember when conservatives were all about compassionate conservatism?

lol
 
2014-03-10 06:06:17 PM  
MrSteve007:
Yep - that's exactly what I said . . . if you chose to ignore what was written.

if you agree that slavery is terrible, your point about slaves staying on is moot. the reason they were there in the first place is because they were slaves.

after a lifetime in bondage, a slave likely had no money or ability to be on his own. and he certainly didn't feel african at that point - especially if he was 3rd or 4th generation. so he was stuck - and staying with his former captor may have been his only option.

if i kidnap your 2 year old daughter and keep her in isolation for 25 years, does the fact that she wants to stay with me because i'm the only person she knows make it any better?
 
2014-03-10 06:06:38 PM  
anyone care about white slavery and the millions of whities sold into slavery ?

"Historians estimate that between 650 and 1900, 10 to 18 million peoples were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken from Europe " ...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
 
2014-03-10 06:07:09 PM  

Corn_Fed: The denialism of Southerners about the horrors of slavery continues today.


I can kinda understand it to a point. A lot of people have slave owners in their family history, and a lot of them don't want to view their ancestors in a negative light. Being a slave owner is inherently negative, so they try to fashion it in some way to make it a little better on their own psyches.

My great-great-(great?) grandfather was a colonel in the confederate army (Haley M. Carter) and owned slaves. His granddaughter vehemently believed that he treated his slaves like family.

My grandmother felt it was better to not talk about it at all.

My mom had no qualms in calling him out as a racist douchebag and neither do I. The further away you get, the easier it should be to denounce their actions. Doesn't excuse people in their 20s-50s from defending it though.
 
2014-03-10 06:08:46 PM  

bughunter: Mr T is growing weary with this shiat.

[img.fark.net image 500x346]


Weary of. Irritated with.
 
2014-03-10 06:17:05 PM  
Even a kind master and content slave is a dehumanizing and clearly exploitive situation.  As much as some people seem to honestly believe it, there is no racial sub-species of humanity that are better off being controlled and appropriated. No amount of reversing the clock or societal/economic/technological gap will ever justify or excuse the level of exploitation.
 
2014-03-10 06:18:46 PM  

ozzie_stu: anyone care about white slavery and the millions of whities sold into slavery ?

"Historians estimate that between 650 and 1900, 10 to 18 million peoples were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken from Europe " ...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade



from your own link:

European and American historians assert that between the 8th and 19th century, 10 to 18 million peoples were bought by Arab slave traders and taken from Africa across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert.

a lot of white folks in africa back in those days were there?
 
2014-03-10 06:19:53 PM  
Like Uncle Beauregard said, "You can't be born too white."
 
2014-03-10 06:20:26 PM  

FlashHarry: PunGent: That's sadly correct, even ignoring the vast slave markets in Africa; most slaves were initially bought from fellow blacks after being captured in tribal raids.

i was aware that tribes sold their enemies into slavery in west africa, which is of course abhorrent. but he was implying that american blacks owned slaves.


Also correct, sadly.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2821/before-the-civil-war-w er e-some-slave-owners-black
 
2014-03-10 06:21:27 PM  

jigger: Mugato: Slaves didn't have to pay taxes, right?

Their income was taxed at 100%.


And yet they still worked, proving Laffer wrong.
 
2014-03-10 06:21:30 PM  
FTA: "See, there are some pretty obvious differences between slavery as practiced in the U.S. a century and a half ago and today's "prison population" or Trayvon Martin, not to mention stop and frisk. The only connection between these things and slavery is that the presumptive moral debt owed to the descendants of slavery's victims and the moral authority conferred on them by it may be applied to the disapproval and eventually the disappearance of things its beneficiaries don't like or find objectionable or irksome, on account of the sufferings of their ancestors."

What this mental midget can't seem to grasp is that the issues between the races aren't just about what happened THEN, they are about what's happening NOW. That NOW is within the lifetimes of people still alive, like my 76 year old father. To them, Selma is NOW, as was Montgomery and the deaths of the Kennedys and Dr King,
Stop and Frisk is NOW, Driving While Black is NOW. The murder of Amadou Diallo is NOW. The rape of Abner Louima by police with nightsticks is NOW. Zimmerman and others shooting down black people in cold blood is NOW. James Byrd Jr being dragged behind a pickup truck to his death is NOW.

The leap in logic that seems to be impossible for people like this is simple: what happened in the past might be a lot more forgivable (although never forgettable) if the same sh*t wasn't still happening NOW.

One other thing... under WHAT conditions can keeping another person as a slave be considered "pleasant" for the enslaved?
 
2014-03-10 06:24:27 PM  

FlashHarry: PunGent: That's sadly correct, even ignoring the vast slave markets in Africa; most slaves were initially bought from fellow blacks after being captured in tribal raids.

i was aware that tribes sold their enemies into slavery in west africa, which is of course abhorrent. but he was implying that american blacks owned slaves.


A more scholarly link, with footnotes, even:

http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2013/03/black_slave_owners_d id _they_exist.html
 
2014-03-10 06:26:24 PM  
You callin my pappy a liar?
 
2014-03-10 06:27:02 PM  
Hmm, that headline sounds unbelievable. No, like I literally do not believe you.

i.imgur.com

Ah, yeah, not "conservatives" but "one dude on some blog somewhere".
 
2014-03-10 06:28:16 PM  
fc08.deviantart.net
 
2014-03-10 06:28:41 PM  

skrame: InterruptingQuirk: Will Solomon's own words condemn me for sharing them?

[img.fark.net image 575x899]

Wow; not a single response.

/not all conservatives are the same, dammit
//not much of a conservative


Fine, I'll handle it.  Highlight the last line instead.  "If only everyone was as nice as this guy, this horrible and soul crushing institution would a institution that was less (but certainly still) horrible and soul crushing.
 
2014-03-10 06:29:00 PM  

rewind2846: FTA: "See, there are some pretty obvious differences between slavery as practiced in the U.S. a century and a half ago and today's "prison population" or Trayvon Martin, not to mention stop and frisk. The only connection between these things and slavery is that the presumptive moral debt owed to the descendants of slavery's victims and the moral authority conferred on them by it may be applied to the disapproval and eventually the disappearance of things its beneficiaries don't like or find objectionable or irksome, on account of the sufferings of their ancestors."

What this mental midget can't seem to grasp is that the issues between the races aren't just about what happened THEN, they are about what's happening NOW. That NOW is within the lifetimes of people still alive, like my 76 year old father. To them, Selma is NOW, as was Montgomery and the deaths of the Kennedys and Dr King,
Stop and Frisk is NOW, Driving While Black is NOW. The murder of Amadou Diallo is NOW. The rape of Abner Louima by police with nightsticks is NOW. Zimmerman and others shooting down black people in cold blood is NOW. James Byrd Jr being dragged behind a pickup truck to his death is NOW.

The leap in logic that seems to be impossible for people like this is simple: what happened in the past might be a lot more forgivable (although never forgettable) if the same sh*t wasn't still happening NOW.

One other thing... under WHAT conditions can keeping another person as a slave be considered "pleasant" for the enslaved?


Well, maybe not "pleasant", but Alfred Krupp's defense attorneys at Nuremberg argued that using slave labor in his factories saved them from the death camps.  (Oddly, they didn't bring up the fact that some of his factories were located IN the death camps.)

Yeah, he was convicted, but hey...they made the argument.

You might feel better about humanity after said conviction, but we let him out again, right quick, since we had to re-arm Germany against Russia.

A cardinal subsequently pinning a gold medal on him for service to humanity was a nice touch, I think...just the little salt on the wound that makes WWII such a fun time   :)

(The Arms of Krupp is a fascinating read, as is Manchester's memoir, Goodbye Darkness.)
 
2014-03-10 06:29:51 PM  
Just look at all those happy happy slaves, going on a cruise hosted by their kind master!

0.tqn.com
 
2014-03-10 06:30:31 PM  

AdamK: remember when conservatives were all about compassionate conservatism?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassionate_conservatism#Criticism
... referencing Marvin Olasky's The Tragedy of American Compassion, who believed the poor must help themselves and that poverty was the fault not of society but of the poor and of social workers. Krugman endorses Digby's analysis that right-wing compassionate 'charity' assumes that the giver has the right to investigate and dictate the life of the receiver, even for the smallest charity.

And the Digby URL?  http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/post-modern-slavery-by-digby-t o day-amy.html
 
2014-03-10 06:31:28 PM  
You know something, the Plagues that swept through Europe in the 16th century weren't ALL bad,,,
 
2014-03-10 06:32:14 PM  
Reading the comments here, I learned that this American Spectator piece represents what all conservatives believe. Usually farkers are good about picking up on such things. In clicking the author's name I see he is a movie guy, mostly.

In looking at his take on Nebraska, I was expecting nothing but praise for this all-white film of the highest order. Instead, I see this:

David's decision to drop everything and undertake this journey with his half-crazy parent is one of the weaker spots in Mr. Nelson's plot, like the defining but distracting sexual assault conviction of David's doltish cousin Cole (Devin Ratray), though less obtrusively so.

Now, the way they slipped in the sexual assault thing was brilliant, I thought, with the mother finally just laying out the truth later. Also, how the hell was that a defining moment in the movie? So, I have concluded that rather than being representative of all conservatives, this guy is representative of all bad movie reviewers.
 
2014-03-10 06:36:02 PM  

Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Jesus Jumping Christ on a pogo stick

/these f*ckers have come completely unhinged

It's this kind of shiat that is making me narrow where I want to end up in journalism, exactly. Because, frankly, if I had to get assigned to cover some diarrhea-spewing Republican twit, I'd likely open any interviews by beating said twit with the largest blunt object available.


loschaos.com
Approves.

Of course, Democrats weren't safe around him either.
 
2014-03-10 06:36:31 PM  
A few points here.  1st, the article is trying to point out that not every single slave owner that ever lived was as how they are usually portrayed in Hollywood.  In reality, and history DOES back this up, there were many slave owners that were just the opposite of what you see in Hollywood.  This is the problem of trying to portray a morality that is 250 years old in this country and longer in other countries.  In many areas of the country, including the North, mind you, people would have paid little to no attention to a single slave and slave owner.  It was common back then.  Not so much as in the North, but there were slaves and slave owners in the North.  Also, people from the South traveled with their slaves to the North all the time prior to the Emancipation Proclamation.  It's very difficult for us to even consider something as morally repugnant as slavery as being commonplace and accepted in society.  The truth is it was at one time.

2nd, Hollywood's job is entertainment, not telling accurate history.  I wouldn't expect accuracy out of Hollywood.  An accurate account isn't all that exciting most of the time.  Nor does it sell tickets.  It's great on a documentary.  Not so much for big box office hits.

The article is probably better placed in a more scholarly journal than in The American Spectator because, 3rd, whining about how liberal Hollywood is does nothing and will accomplish nothing.

4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

5th, the article doesn't support slavery.  It merely points out an obvious flaw in the telling of the story.  It's a no duh flaw, but a flaw none the less.  I'm a conservative and I certainly don't support slavery, nor am I racist, bigot, homophobe, etc.  Nor are any conservatives that I know of.  All the bigots and racists I know are on the left.  They do a masterful job of portraying conservatives as wannabe slave owners thanks to a very biased media.  That too is a no duh.  Yes, people realize there is a media bias.  Hence why many people turn away from mainstream media to alternative media.  Is Fox News conservatively biased?  About as much as CNN and MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and 90% of the large newspaper organizations have a liberal bias.  However, I find that Fox has a better balanced coverage than all of the mainstream media plus the multitude of liberal "news" websites.  Combined.

As far as I'm concerned, this is yet another "bash conservatives" thread.  Well liberals, I'll leave you with this image.  Reflect upon it.
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-10 06:36:48 PM  

ozzie_stu: anyone care about white slavery and the millions of whities sold into slavery ?

"Historians estimate that between 650 and 1900, 10 to 18 million peoples were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken from Europe " ...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade


Apparently those historians do. Whatever that has to do with trying to whitewash American slavery is beyond me, though. I seriously doubt anyone on the internet would be so callous as to intentionally throw out a red herring to distract from the actual topic.
 
2014-03-10 06:37:55 PM  

doyner: vernonFL: The book the movie is based on is anti- slavery propaganda.

Why don't they show both sides of the story, the pros AND cons of slavery, and then let people decide which side they want to believe?

All these Farklibs afraid of people asking questions...tragic.


Favorited: Married toothy homeschool lady
 
2014-03-10 06:38:35 PM  
"When you was slaves, you sang like birds."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0mE745qmNE
 
2014-03-10 06:38:37 PM  

Cletus C.: Reading the comments here, I learned that this American Spectator piece represents what all conservatives believe. Usually farkers are good about picking up on such things. In clicking the author's name I see he is a movie guy, mostly.

In looking at his take on Nebraska, I was expecting nothing but praise for this all-white film of the highest order. Instead, I see this:

David's decision to drop everything and undertake this journey with his half-crazy parent is one of the weaker spots in Mr. Nelson's plot, like the defining but distracting sexual assault conviction of David's doltish cousin Cole (Devin Ratray), though less obtrusively so.

Now, the way they slipped in the sexual assault thing was brilliant, I thought, with the mother finally just laying out the truth later. Also, how the hell was that a defining moment in the movie? So, I have concluded that rather than being representative of all conservatives, this guy is representative of all bad movie reviewers.


well at least you aren't taking this whole thing personally
 
2014-03-10 06:39:01 PM  

Cletus C.: Reading the comments here, I learned that this American Spectator piece represents what all conservatives believe. Usually farkers are good about picking up on such things. In clicking the author's name I see he is a movie guy, mostly.

In looking at his take on Nebraska, I was expecting nothing but praise for this all-white film of the highest order. Instead, I see this:

David's decision to drop everything and undertake this journey with his half-crazy parent is one of the weaker spots in Mr. Nelson's plot, like the defining but distracting sexual assault conviction of David's doltish cousin Cole (Devin Ratray), though less obtrusively so.

Now, the way they slipped in the sexual assault thing was brilliant, I thought, with the mother finally just laying out the truth later. Also, how the hell was that a defining moment in the movie? So, I have concluded that rather than being representative of all conservatives, this guy is representative of all bad movie reviewers.


Have you ever been right, or even relevant, to anything at all?
 
2014-03-10 06:39:10 PM  
More movies should be made about the heros who freed the slaves.

How about movies about the Africans who captured other Africans? Truly sad. Maybe a movie about freed slaves who owned slaves themselves? Maybe a movie about Mamleuks = white slaves in Africa?
 
2014-03-10 06:40:03 PM  
Cletus C.~

When I first saw the cousins I expected banjo music.
 
2014-03-10 06:41:13 PM  

bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery. It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery. Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives. And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.


www.amsterdamtrader.com
 
2014-03-10 06:41:24 PM  
Remember that time when a slave owner sent a letter to his former slave, asking him to come back to the South with his family and work for him again? The letter that was sent back in reply was Epic beyond comprehension.

Dayton, Ohio, August 7, 1865

To My Old Master, Colonel P.H. Anderson, Big Spring, Tennessee

Sir,

I got your letter and was glad to find you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Col. Martin's to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living. It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.

I want to know particularly what the good chance is you propose to give me. I am doing tolerably well here; I get $25 a month, with victuals and clothing; have a comfortable home for Mandy, -the folks here call her Mrs. Anderson),-and the children-Milly, Jane and Grundy-go to school and are learning well; the teacher says Grundy has a head for a preacher. They go to Sunday- School, and Mandy and me attend church regularly. We are kindly treated; sometimes we overhear others saying, "Them colored people were slaves" down in Tennessee. The children feel hurt when they hear such remarks, but I tell them it was no disgrace in Tennessee to belong to Col. Anderson. Many darkies would have been proud, as I used to be, to call you master. Now, if you will write and say what wages you will give me, I will be better able to decide whether it would be to my advantage to move back again.

As to my freedom, which you say I can have, there is nothing to be gained on that score, as I got my free papers in 1864 from the Provost- Marshal- General of the Department of Nashville. Mandy says she would be afraid to go back without some proof that you are sincerely disposed to treat us justly and kindly; and we have concluded to test your sincerity by asking you to send us our wages for the time we served you. This will make us forget and forgive old scores, and rely on your justice and friendship in the future. I served you faithfully for thirty-two years and Mandy twenty years. At twenty-five dollars a month for me, and two dollars a week for Mandy, our earnings would amount to eleven thousand six hundred and eighty dollars. Add to this the interest for the time our wages has been kept back and deduct what you paid for our clothing and three doctor's visits to me, and pulling a tooth for Mandy, and the balance will show what we are in justice entitled to. Please send the money by Adams Express, in care of V. Winters, Esq., Dayton, Ohio. If you fail to pay us for faithful labors in the past we can have little faith in your promises in the future. We trust the good Maker has opened your eyes to the wrongs which you and your fathers have done to me and my fathers, in making us toil for you for generations without recompense. Here I draw my wages every Saturday night, but in Tennessee there was never any pay-day for the Negroes any more than for the horses and cows. Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire.

In answering this letter please state if there would be any safety for my Milly and Jane, who are now grown up and both good-looking girls. You know how it was with Matilda and Catherine. I would rather stay here and starve, and die if it comes to that, than have my girls brought to shame by the violence and wickedness of their young masters. You will also please state if there has been any schools opened for the colored children in your neighborhood, the great desire of my life now is to give my children an education, and have them form virtuous habits.

P.S. -Say howdy to George Carter, and thank him for taking the pistol from you when you were shooting at me.

From your old servant,

Jourdon Anderson
 
2014-03-10 06:41:27 PM  

Joe Peanut: Just look at all those happy happy slaves, going on a cruise hosted by their kind master!

[0.tqn.com image 700x424]


At least it's better than Carnival Cruises.

/aisle seat, please
 
2014-03-10 06:42:55 PM  
Maybe if you libs stopped foc using on the plight of poor man and spent more time dissecting real history films like Flags of our Fathers you'd understand the real history mullets of our country. But Yay. .. continue to ignore that people voted overwhelming Republican in the last mid terms and only last three Senate Thanks to Acorn.
 
2014-03-10 06:43:33 PM  

someonelse: Clash City Farker: George Washington had 300 slaves.

And he was the Father of Our Country. So slavery, as an institution, can't be all bad.


History is written by the victors.
 
2014-03-10 06:45:14 PM  

karmaceutical: Cletus C.: Reading the comments here, I learned that this American Spectator piece represents what all conservatives believe. Usually farkers are good about picking up on such things. In clicking the author's name I see he is a movie guy, mostly.

In looking at his take on Nebraska, I was expecting nothing but praise for this all-white film of the highest order. Instead, I see this:

David's decision to drop everything and undertake this journey with his half-crazy parent is one of the weaker spots in Mr. Nelson's plot, like the defining but distracting sexual assault conviction of David's doltish cousin Cole (Devin Ratray), though less obtrusively so.

Now, the way they slipped in the sexual assault thing was brilliant, I thought, with the mother finally just laying out the truth later. Also, how the hell was that a defining moment in the movie? So, I have concluded that rather than being representative of all conservatives, this guy is representative of all bad movie reviewers.

Have you ever been right, or even relevant, to anything at all?


So, this IS what all conservatives believe. Now that's relevant!
 
2014-03-10 06:47:05 PM  

bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.


Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!
 
2014-03-10 06:50:28 PM  
Yes, yes, we all know that slavery was bad, and we all know the sky is blue and the ocean is full of salt water.

Could we get off of it fer cryin' out loud?
 
2014-03-10 06:50:31 PM  

ozzie_stu: anyone care about white slavery and the millions of whities sold into slavery ?

"Historians estimate that between 650 and 1900, 10 to 18 million peoples were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken from Europe " ...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade


Would you care to stick to the topic already laid out in this thread or are you feeling a bit sad that white people are being left out?
 
2014-03-10 06:50:48 PM  
Hey I will keep you as a slave but because I won't beat or rape you its OK right?  Morons.
 
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