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(The American Spectator)   Conservatives are upset that 12 Years a Slave didn't represent a 'kind master or a contented slave'... because you know... most slaves were happy   (spectator.org) divider line 469
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2014-03-10 03:48:29 PM
FTA: If ever in slavery's 250-year history in North America there were a kind master or a contented slave, as in the nature of things there must have been, here and there, we may be sure that Mr McQueen does not want us to hear about it.

Wow. And of course there is a Hannity pop-up telling us to pay for and support this garbage.
 
2014-03-10 03:51:10 PM
Is this what conservatives have been reduced to?
 
2014-03-10 03:51:50 PM
I admire this author's testicular fortitude to stand up for slave-owners everywhere.  Now where's the c*nt-punt girl when you need her?
 
2014-03-10 03:53:27 PM
Apparently the opinion of Mr. Ford(violin gifter) was more favorable in the book than it was even in the movie.
 
2014-03-10 03:55:24 PM
If ever in slavery's the Holocaust's 250-year 5 year history in North America Germany there were a kind master Camp Commandant or a contented slave Jew , as in the nature of things there must have been, here and there, we may be sure that Mr McQueen Spielberg does not want us to hear about it.

Why didn't that liberal hack Spielberg not show us the other side of the Holocaust? Too busy with his own agenda, I'd wager. Eh, Mr Bowman?
 
2014-03-10 03:55:45 PM
When my mom was in her early teens, she got into an argument with my great-grandmother over this. My mom just found out that her great-grandfather owned plantations with slaves (he was a colonel for the confederate army).

Mom: Wait, so great-grandpa owned slaves?!
GG: Yes, but they all loved him!
Mom: Of course they did! They were forced to! I'd say I loved anyone if it meant I wouldn't be beaten or sold!
GG: THEY! LOVED! HIM! I WILL NOT HAVE YOU SAY OTHERWISE! *she starts shaking at this point*
Mom's mom: Shush. Don't agitate your grandma!

Apparently one of the ways of justifying having racist slave owners in your family tree is by saying all the slaves loved their masters and were treated so nice.
 
2014-03-10 03:56:15 PM
"And in 'Roots' why didn't they ever show Toby thanking the benevolent men for taking away that mouthful of a moniker and giving him a name so easily found on gift-shop keychains and novelty license plates?"
 
2014-03-10 03:57:17 PM

lockers: Is this what conservatives have been reduced to?


I could swear certain circles have bemoaned the lack of kind masters and contented slaves ever since American slavery was written about.
 
2014-03-10 04:01:52 PM

lockers: Is this what conservatives have been reduced to?


They're in the midst of a major outreach to minorities and women.

And let's be honest - compassionate slave owners and content slaves certainly qualify as a minority.
 
2014-03-10 04:05:06 PM
So, I'm guessing if Bowman and crew could find one kind slavemaster or one contented slave in the history of American slavery, that would make the diseased and rotten edifice of slavery okay?  What would these revisionists have McQueen do, stray away from Northrup's narrative to create the anti-version of slavery -- a plantation where the slaves were treated with dignity and never mistreated and never having offspring sold off to other slaveowners and where all the slaves went to bed peacefully each night, well fed and rested for another voluntary day of paying for their keep?

Who besides kooks like Hanitty would even believe such an alternate universe existed?
 
2014-03-10 04:05:16 PM

lockers: Is this what conservatives have been reduced to?


Wait... this was written by a freedom-loving conservative?  How can someone that eats and breathes freedom 24/7 ever desire to hear a good thing about placing humans in bondage?  Why do they feel the need to defend every f*cking reprehensible character simply because they weren't agitating for change in society?
 
2014-03-10 04:06:22 PM
See, there are some pretty obvious differences between slavery as practiced in the U.S. a century and a half ago and today's "prison population"

Sure there are differences. Just like there were differences between slavery and the child labor sweatshops running in New England at the time, but they were both abhorrent and not something we should celebrate.
 
2014-03-10 04:07:06 PM
Jesus Jumping Christ on a pogo stick

/these f*ckers have come completely unhinged
 
2014-03-10 04:07:10 PM
and kids used to love working in coal mines,
wives used to love being owned by their husbands,
dont get me started with how much whores love working in brothels and being concubines
 
2014-03-10 04:09:47 PM
hint: if you're defending slavery, you're a farking racist.
 
2014-03-10 04:10:31 PM
oh, yeah, how's that outreach coming, republicans?
 
2014-03-10 04:11:45 PM

FlashHarry: hint: if you're defending slavery, you're a farking racist.


Why not?  I can understand explaining slavery but not defending slavery.
 
2014-03-10 04:13:27 PM

Prey4reign: I can understand explaining slavery but not defending slavery.


exactly. just as you can explain the holocaust, but you can't defend it.
 
2014-03-10 04:15:24 PM
Huh. Where are all of our Fark Independents™? One of their fellow conservatives is being called a racist, and surely they cannot stand for that.
 
2014-03-10 04:18:19 PM
Slaves didn't have to pay taxes, right?
 
2014-03-10 04:20:02 PM

Mugato: Slaves didn't have to pay taxes, right?


They got fed regular ... sometimes.
 
2014-03-10 04:22:24 PM
Will Solomon's own words condemn me for sharing them?

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2014-03-10 04:22:43 PM

Mugato: Slaves didn't have to pay taxes, right?


Their owners probably had to.  Which means the slaves were really living under socialism.  Because that's how bad socialism is.  It's just like slavery.
 
2014-03-10 04:23:00 PM

Prey4reign: FlashHarry: hint: if you're defending slavery, you're a farking racist.

Why not?  I can understand explaining slavery but not defending slavery.


I guess that you could argue that a person could be describing history or how people rationalized slavery.
"My slaves are treated as well as my dogs or livestock and are quite happy."
or
"I know that my grandparents slave were always happy. They smiled whenever they saw me."

But these would be comments on history or rationalizations, not actual statements of what the slaves felt.

THAT being said, brainwashing is brainwashing.
Maybe they WERE happy, when they saw what the alternative was, beaten, raped, killed, sold off, etc etc etc.

In the vein of thank god I only lost both my legs and am still alive kind of happy.

/at least the GOP outreach program is working!! They have made huge strides in pushing women and minorities even further away. I mean that is their goal, right?
 
2014-03-10 04:23:17 PM
I just want to cockpunch the author for the phrase "We, forsooth!"

What a pretentious ass.
 
2014-03-10 04:26:52 PM
Sorry guys, but no matter how hard you try, you're not going to white-wash slavery.
 
2014-03-10 04:28:31 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I just want to cockpunch the author for the phrase "We, forsooth!"

What a pretentious ass.


I can just picture him putting down his brandy snifter he had just sipped his Hennesey from, straightening out his smoking jacket and puffing on his meerschaum pipe before his typed that out on his keyboard.
 
2014-03-10 04:28:37 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I just want to cockpunch the author for the phrase "We, forsooth!"


Basically, this!
 
2014-03-10 04:29:42 PM
republicans: on the right side of history in 1863, on the wrong side today.
 
2014-03-10 04:31:43 PM
250 years? Aren't we at least 150 short? You think Christopher Columbus was using Spanish labor to find his gold? And if we include sharecropping, we can add another 100 years to that.

I understand why societies in the past used slavery- cheap labor to produce what couldn't be done other wise. Here in North America it was turned into a racial thing. Why THIS part of the argument has to be defended is beyond me.
 
2014-03-10 04:31:59 PM
The practice of slavery was, at its nature, dehumanizing and cruel. kindness would be the exception, not the rule.
 
2014-03-10 04:34:33 PM

Ambivalence: The practice of slavery was, at its nature, dehumanizing and cruel. kindness would be the exception, not the rule.


No, see, it's totally cool to have someone completely in your power as long as you're nice to them. It's not like anything can go wrong at all under such a system. Plus if you're mean to your slaves the other slave owners won't let you sip mint juleps on their porches, so the market corrects these things.
 
2014-03-10 04:35:09 PM
i think the GOP should finance a conservative film about slavery called "Lawdy, Massuh Sho Bin Good t'Us."
 
2014-03-10 04:38:44 PM
The book the movie is based on is anti- slavery propaganda.

Why don't they show both sides of the story, the pros AND cons of slavery, and then let people decide which side they want to believe?
 
2014-03-10 04:39:27 PM

Ambivalence: The practice of slavery was, at its nature, dehumanizing and cruel. kindness would be the exception, not the rule.

Today, it is hard to imagine how terribly violent slavery was. Slaves feared the violence of masters. Masters feared slave revolts. Worse, whites knew that any small provocation might ignite the spark. Look at the following Virginia Gazette description of a slave revolt on Bowler Cocke's Hanover County, Virginia, plantation in 1770. It began because a slave did not light the morning fire soon enough

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lave owners lived in constant fear of slave revolts.

Anyone wanna guess why the US still dislikes Haiti? You know, the one nation that proclaimed freedom via a slave revolt?
 
2014-03-10 04:39:38 PM

vernonFL: The book the movie is based on is anti- slavery propaganda.

Why don't they show both sides of the story, the pros AND cons of slavery, and then let people decide which side they want to believe?


All these Farklibs afraid of people asking questions...tragic.
 
2014-03-10 04:39:44 PM

vernonFL: The book the movie is based on is anti- slavery propaganda.

Why don't they show both sides of the story, the pros AND cons of slavery, and then let people decide which side they want to believe?


that reminds me of one of my favorite Onion op-ed pieces, "Child Abuse: How Much is Too Much?"
 
2014-03-10 04:40:02 PM
This formatting bar blows ...
 
2014-03-10 04:42:22 PM
See, there are some pretty obvious differences between slavery as practiced in the U.S. a century and a half ago and today's "prison population" or Trayvon Martin, not to mention stop and frisk.

While technically true, the writer here engages in the equivalent of fantasizing about boys while spraying cum all over his wife's body and face in the desperate hope he can impregnate her.
 
2014-03-10 04:43:49 PM
I...uh...what?  But it was his own farking memoir of the experience.  Should he have written in a dance number with singing animals just to make people feel better about his life?
 
2014-03-10 04:44:53 PM

FlashHarry: i think the GOP should finance a conservative film about slavery called "Lawdy, Massuh Sho Bin Good t'Us."


Didn't Hollywood already do that back in the 1930s?  Gone With The Wind was as much a mythical remembrance of the gentility and kindness of Southerners as it was a grand, sweeping romance (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little).  After all, Scarlet, her dad, Ashley and the rest of the plantation owners were a bunch of refined gentlemen and women and the only awful and evil white Southerner was the overseer everyone seemed to frown on.  It wasn't the stupidity of the plantation set that brought the South to ruin -- it was that demon Sherman and his uncouth and loutish soldiers.  And didn't all the slaves stick around to help Scarlet resurrect Tara?  Oh right, except for the field slaves (not even shown in the movie).  They became pawns in the hands of the likes of the overseer everyone disapproved of who became a carpet bagger.
 
2014-03-10 04:45:47 PM

Nadie_AZ: You think Christopher Columbus was using Spanish labor to find his gold


He enslaved the local population the moment he set foot on solid ground.
 
2014-03-10 04:46:52 PM
this has to be satire or a hack by some liberal group. this cannot be real.
 
2014-03-10 04:47:12 PM

Nadie_AZ: Ambivalence: The practice of slavery was, at its nature, dehumanizing and cruel. kindness would be the exception, not the rule.

Today, it is hard to imagine how terribly violent slavery was. Slaves feared the violence of masters. Masters feared slave revolts. Worse, whites knew that any small provocation might ignite the spark. Look at the following Virginia Gazette description of a slave revolt on Bowler Cocke's Hanover County, Virginia, plantation in 1770. It began because a slave did not light the morning fire soon enough

Slave owners lived in constant fear of slave revolts.

Anyone wanna guess why the US still dislikes Haiti? You know, the one nation that proclaimed freedom via a slave revolt?


Real Americans traditionally dislike when chattel refuses to remain chattel.
 
2014-03-10 04:47:47 PM

Prey4reign: FlashHarry: i think the GOP should finance a conservative film about slavery called "Lawdy, Massuh Sho Bin Good t'Us."

Didn't Hollywood already do that back in the 1930s?  Gone With The Wind was as much a mythical remembrance of the gentility and kindness of Southerners as it was a grand, sweeping romance (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little).  After all, Scarlet, her dad, Ashley and the rest of the plantation owners were a bunch of refined gentlemen and women and the only awful and evil white Southerner was the overseer everyone seemed to frown on.  It wasn't the stupidity of the plantation set that brought the South to ruin -- it was that demon Sherman and his uncouth and loutish soldiers.  And didn't all the slaves stick around to help Scarlet resurrect Tara?  Oh right, except for the field slaves (not even shown in the movie).  They became pawns in the hands of the likes of the overseer everyone disapproved of who became a carpet bagger.


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2014-03-10 04:48:56 PM
This guy got a writing gig?
 
2014-03-10 04:49:02 PM

bdub77: See, there are some pretty obvious differences between slavery as practiced in the U.S. a century and a half ago and today's "prison population" or Trayvon Martin, not to mention stop and frisk.

While technically true, the writer here engages in the equivalent of fantasizing about boys while spraying cum all over his wife's body and face in the desperate hope he can impregnate her.


I'm thinking, a guy with your kind of mind...should have the land crab.
 
2014-03-10 04:50:29 PM

Nadie_AZ: Anyone wanna guess why the US still dislikes Haiti? You know, the one nation that proclaimed freedom via a slave revolt?


And this.  fark those freedom loving assholes, huh?  Sugar slavery was a thing in the nearby areas up until the 1940s.  And possibly even more recent than that.

http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2006/12 /i s-sugar-production-modern-day-slavery.html
 
2014-03-10 04:52:06 PM

WI241TH: This guy got a writing gig?


My favorite sentence from that article:

"He also told Think Progress that African-Americans "should be allowed to vote in Africa" and that he supported Rick Santorum for president in 2012."

Bag of Fail.
 
2014-03-10 04:52:37 PM
Lordy Lordy Massa! Das a fine article dat is!

*Throws up*
 
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