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(Talking Points Memo)   Bobby Jindal: 'Obama's a moron for not waging war against Russia'   ( divider line
    More: Unlikely, Bobby Jindal, President Obama, Russia, Sen. John McCain, intelligence  
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1983 clicks; posted to Politics » on 10 Mar 2014 at 1:27 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2014-03-10 01:35:10 PM  
4 votes:

God dang it, Bobby.
2014-03-10 01:31:55 PM  
4 votes:
Obama's Bush is a moron for not waging war against Russia

is something I didn't hear in 2008.
2014-03-10 01:30:21 PM  
4 votes:
Get back to us when you know what volcanoes are and what they do, Bobby.

And we would not want a failure in you in office with access to air strikes.
2014-03-10 03:02:40 PM  
3 votes:
Dear GOP,

Russia is NOT a 2nd rate middle east dictator with 3rd rate military tech.  It is a nuclear armed nation with the ability to send 100's to the US in less than 30 minutes.  If it comes to war, the US as you know it will be over, along with Russia and pretty much the entire planet.  Go away and let the grown-ups try to work this out before the gop tries to kill us all.
2014-03-10 01:54:20 PM  
3 votes:
OH WAAH, 0bama's a WARMONGER for meddling with Libya, WAAH.

Gods damn you stupid 'baggers.
2014-03-10 01:44:32 PM  
3 votes:
How's that "not being the stupid party" thing working for ya, Gunga Jindal?
2014-03-10 01:40:10 PM  
3 votes:

Summercat: *cough cough*

Also, farking warmongers.

busy chillin': keep stroking your war boner

To be fair, this is more "Oppose Obama in everything" than desire for war. If Obama took any sort of military action, I guarantee you everyone on the right would be condemning him for not being more prudent in his actions.

Just look at Libya
2014-03-10 03:33:39 PM  
2 votes:
ScaryBottles: ScaryBottles: rynthetyn: I'm having trouble imagining a scenario where a war between the US and Russia is winnable by either side without one side or the other resorting to nuclear weapons. re s

I think the U.S. will be just fine. We spend literally almost seven times as much as they do. There are literally dozens of inroads to attack Russia from and they have to defend a vastly larger territory to defend with far fewer resources. They have more people to keep fed and safe.  .

Oh Dear God.  There are actually people who believe this?

No, they don't have anybody who they need to keep fed and safe.  During WWII, they lost 30 million people to starvation.  They simply don't care about that.

And territory?  Who gives a rat's ass about that?  This isn't Risk.

You can send lots of bombers and drones to kill all the civilians you want. It won't even slow them down.  It'll be Afghanistan except 10 times as big, 100 times the army, and winters that make Afghanistan look like Disneyland.  The more you bomb them, the more stubborn they'll become.  They'll resort to nukes almost immediately, and if those fail they'll switch to terrorism.  With suitcase nukes.

The only people who would risk all out war with Russia are are authoritarians hoping that this will turn the U.S. into Nazi Germany and idiots who think that using bombs on Russia will somehow prevent New York and Kansas City from being turned into piles of glowing rubble.

The only way to win a war against Russia is to make it so destructive that the will do anything to have it stop.  The Germans tried that and they failed.   We could kill ten million people and it would just make them more obstinate.

Read a book or two on WWII, and see if it helps you understand what it would take to conquer Russia.
2014-03-10 02:09:54 PM  
2 votes:

SpectroBoy: Up until now I though maybe Jindal was partially sane.

Just another GOP partisan hack I guess.

This incident ...

...demonstrated all anyone needs to know about the man's capability for sane, rational judgment.
2014-03-10 01:52:58 PM  
2 votes:
2014-03-10 01:41:00 PM  
2 votes:
So how's that "We need to stop being the stupid party" working out for ya there, Bobby?
2014-03-10 01:34:55 PM  
2 votes:
What is different between the actions of Bush re Georgia versus Obama re Ukraine?

Yknow, aside that Obama is a Democratic president.

/yes I know. Thats the actual sticking point.
//cue the folk wholl focus on my second line and not my question.
2014-03-10 01:33:54 PM  
2 votes:
Sphincter says, "our president is ... boasting about the record number of Americans on food stamps."

Right. Boasting.

You're a fecking idiot, Jindal.
2014-03-10 08:04:39 PM  
1 vote:
Maybe we just misheard him and he really said the Republican Party SHOULD be the party of stupid. At least, if we judge him by what he has said since then, he definitely seems to be fully endorsing Republican stupidity.
2014-03-10 07:19:08 PM  
1 vote:

Kittypie070: Why in hell are you guys buying into Piyush's line of thought here and banging the what-if war drums??

Thats all I'm sayin' everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax. Seriously last month a lot of these people were making Putin attention whore jokes on par with Fatty Kim and now all of a sudden he's going to conquer the world because Obama is a liberal painty waist.
2014-03-10 07:14:53 PM  
1 vote:
Why in hell are you guys buying into Piyush's line of thought here and banging the what-if war drums??
2014-03-10 04:18:26 PM  
1 vote:

Arkanaut: ScaryBottles: Arkanaut: ScaryBottles: Arkanaut: I guess this would technically be a land war in Europe, but this is still a bad idea.

You are aware that adage comes from the book The Princess Bride yes? Its not cribbed from like The Art of War or The Book of the Five Rings or something. It comes from a fantasy/comedy novel and was said by a person who learned the hard way a few pages later he wasn't as smart as he thought he was. So can we give it a rest already.

So... war in Asia good?

No but nice try sweetie.... Land war in Asia no more of a clusterfark than anywhere else.

Other than the fact that we have to deploy troops, equipment, and supplies halfway around the world, yeah, it's NBD.   Okay, we have bases in Turkey, and maybe the Poles might want to cozy up to us, so it's not as much of a clusterfark as driving convoys into Afghanistan through Pakistan, but it's still an expensive and complicated proposition compared to, let's say, invading Panama.  Especially on relatively short notice.

Okay guy I'll play along. Do you really think we'll invade? Why occupy territory when its so much easier to send in drones and bombers after we've blown the shiat out of any anti-aircraft batteries they might have from the upper atmosphere? See this where the technological and economic gap starts to matter. No we're not invading shiat, chances are we'll just shell Crimea from 20 miles off the coast after allowing a reasonable period for the civilians to file out of the cites. Meanwhile we won't toss so much as a firecracker within Russia's political borders. As far as your assertion that we can't mobilize fast enough you are aware that we have tens if not hundreds of thousands of personnel just to the south and the only thing between them and the Black Sea is a country we're friendly with. If this whole thing lights up who's side do you think Turkey is going to take?

But as I said before this all academic it will never reach that point. Sorry pal but not all of us get a stiffy when we watch Red Dawn.
2014-03-10 02:42:29 PM  
1 vote:

Kittypie070: Stuff it up your ass, Piyush.

Which is the actual sound produced when stuffing things up one's ass.
2014-03-10 02:12:51 PM  
1 vote:
2014-03-10 01:44:44 PM  
1 vote:

offmymeds: Apparently Bobby wants to see the world revert back to the days of the Cold War.

It's good for the 1%, which is the only constituency the GOP gives a shiat about.
2014-03-10 01:43:52 PM  
1 vote:
Once again, GOP Presidential hopeful isn't talking to anybody but the frothing rank and file desperate for any Word showing Obama is a Bad Man.  It doesn't matter how screamingly false.

Poor Tim Pawlenty.  If only he had better timing, he could have sold the bridge collapsing in Minnesota as an uncommonly Good Thing, cf. starving little kids at school.
2014-03-10 01:43:30 PM  
1 vote:
When even Vizzini knows that to get involved in a war with Russia would be a classic blunder, maybe your position is the unintelligent one.
2014-03-10 01:41:25 PM  
1 vote:
And had Obama taken some sort of military stance against Russia, the Right would be screaming bloody murder about how horribly Obama is treating our valued G8 partner, Russia.

It never ends. The carnival barkers are best ignored.
2014-03-10 01:39:00 PM  
1 vote:
Good luck with trying to boost cred for a 2016 Presidential bid with that. The 35% approval rating in his home state won't help either.
2014-03-10 01:37:14 PM  
1 vote:
Nowhere in the 818-word column is it ever indicated how Bobby Jindal would end the crisis

You don't farking say
2014-03-10 01:36:36 PM  
1 vote:
FTFA: Nowhere in the 818-word column is it ever indicated how Bobby Jindal would end the crisis, but that likely wasn't   when he wrote the piece.
2014-03-10 01:36:22 PM  
1 vote:
And that "weakness," Jindal asserts, "will prove expensive for America; it always does."

What's expensive for America now? Insurance companies trying to screw the citizens? How about two unnecessary wars that helped to crash the economy? Thanks for your input Piyush but you're still not right.
2014-03-10 01:34:30 PM  
1 vote:
He uses multilateralism as "not a process but an end" and is "loath to act with certainty."

And that "weakness," Jindal asserts, "will prove expensive for America; it always does."

Yes, because showing unilateral "strength" has never proved expensive for America...
2014-03-10 01:31:06 PM  
1 vote:
Bobby Jindal: 'We could all be in Heaven right now if not for Ohama'
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