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(New Europe)   Any passport would do. Have a safe flight   (neurope.eu) divider line 10
    More: Asinine, identity document, flights, travel documents, airline security, Interpol  
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7544 clicks; posted to Main » on 10 Mar 2014 at 1:09 PM (19 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-03-10 01:37:52 PM
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What a GREAT idea; take the enormous number of false hits on the no-fly list and add a few thousand more. Prevent anyone who has ever had their passport stolen from flying without going through a cavity search. Make us all miss our flights while you fark with them.

What fracking difference does it make if a "terrorist" gets on a plane with a false passport? Unless they sneak a bomb or a gun on the plane, there's really not that much damage they can do if the cockpit door stays locked the way it should.

Apparently, fake passports are a standard way to travel from the Third to the First world; it's about beating the immigration barriers.
2014-03-10 02:19:29 PM
2 votes:

mbillips: What a GREAT idea; take the enormous number of false hits on the no-fly list and add a few thousand more. Prevent anyone who has ever had their passport stolen from flying without going through a cavity search. Make us all miss our flights while you fark with them.

What fracking difference does it make if a "terrorist" gets on a plane with a false passport? Unless they sneak a bomb or a gun on the plane, there's really not that much damage they can do if the cockpit door stays locked the way it should.

Apparently, fake passports are a standard way to travel from the Third to the First world; it's about beating the immigration barriers.


This.  Same with the no fly list.  Unless you assume that the people who get on the list have magic plane crashing powers, who cares?  As long as you're screening everyone for weapons and bombs before letting them on the plane; ID for flying is only important in terms of immigration or surveillance.
2014-03-10 01:26:07 PM
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Benevolent Misanthrope: They can put some schmuck's name on a no-fly list for daring to question TSA Security Theatre, but they can't load  the list with the names and numbers of stolen passports?

Way to go, guys.


To be precise, the numbers of stolen passports are more important than the names. Otherwise having your passport stolen means you're on a no-fly list. Or having someone with the same name as you lose their passport means you're screwed.

Ironically, Malaysians who lose their passports are prohibited from getting new ones for five years, to prevent them being sold.
2014-03-10 01:06:01 PM
2 votes:
They can put some schmuck's name on a no-fly list for daring to question TSA Security Theatre, but they can't load  the list with the names and numbers of stolen passports?

Way to go, guys.
2014-03-10 03:01:12 PM
1 votes:
T-Servo:

To be precise, the numbers of stolen passports are more important than the names. Otherwise having your passport stolen means you're on a no-fly list. Or having someone with the same name as you lose their passport means you're screwed.

Ironically, Malaysians who lose their passports are prohibited from getting new ones for five years, to prevent them being sold.


Not really.

You just get issued with a new passport with a different serial number and bar code. Scanners, eh?
2014-03-10 01:41:04 PM
1 votes:
Yeah, we need to see you naked and don't even think about taking 4 ounces of shampoo onto the plane, but feel free to use anybody's passport you want to.
2014-03-10 01:39:46 PM
1 votes:
FTA:

...we received this comment from Malmstrom's office:

"When it comes to security of documents and controls on lost/stolen documents the EU is one of the most secure area worldwide and the systems and tools already available have proven to work effectively. Currently these issues are properly addressed including via strict EU legislation. The European Commission is already providing strong guarantees and safeguards to citizens and to Member States authorities. The European Commission cannot intervene or regulate outside its competences and outside the EU territory."

Translation: Hey shut up we are too doing a good job!
2014-03-10 01:18:51 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: They can put some schmuck's name on a no-fly list for daring to question TSA Security Theatre, but they can't load  the list with the names and numbers of stolen passports?

Way to go, guys.


"The US and UK are said to be the two largest users of the database and Interpol officials say that France and Switzerland do also. "
2014-03-10 01:13:36 PM
1 votes:
I'm against this database.

If stolen passports are outlawed only outlaws will have stolen passports.
2014-03-10 01:12:23 PM
1 votes:
It's time we surrender the notion that anyone is going to be 100% safe from the bad guys.
 
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