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2014-03-10 12:59:09 PM
I was expecting pictures of unattractive blondes.
 
2014-03-10 01:00:52 PM
"This is one of the first studies to investigate how playing with sexualized dolls affects young girls"

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2014-03-10 01:01:41 PM
My kid's first toy is gonna be a 8-bit microprocessor, then.
 
2014-03-10 01:01:58 PM
At this point, I wonder if Barbie wasn't always some sort of clever plot to create jobs for journalists and academics needing something to write about.
 
2014-03-10 01:02:08 PM
Jesus, what trash! I bet we'll find the cure for cancer some day; but, discard it because some study indicates a correlation between cancer and women in the work place, or something.
 
2014-03-10 01:02:13 PM
I disagree.  Kayla and Cinnamon appear to be very successful.
 
2014-03-10 01:02:16 PM

funzyr: I was expecting pictures of unattractive blondes.


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2014-03-10 01:04:34 PM
It may be tired and cliche, but I still hear parents of girls praise them for their beauty and charm, but not as much their effort or outcomes.
 
2014-03-10 01:05:57 PM
Interesting study. I wonder if young boys who play with G.I. Joe are more prone to aggression than boys who play with say, Lego?

As a girl raised on Lego, Nerf and board games (three older brothers) I was never really into dolls or Barbie. The few I did get as gifts were quickly slingshot into neighbours pools or melted with magnifying glasses.
 
2014-03-10 01:08:12 PM
Headline: Playing with Barbie limits career aspirations for girls, UC Santa Cruz study concludes.

TFA:  Playing with Barbie limits career aspirations for girls,  a couple of dames with tons of women's studies credits conclude.

Reality:Playing with Barbie limits imagination for girls, UC Santa Cruz study theorizes. maybe.
 
2014-03-10 01:15:00 PM
Yeah, but they probably end up marrying rich guys.
 
2014-03-10 01:18:29 PM
What a complete crock of shiat.  My wife, when she was a little girl, played with Barbies; she went to Harvard College and currently has a very successful white-collar career in Los Angeles.  She is a strong advocate for women in the office, and is mentoring a high school girl (who probably also played with Barbie dolls) to try to get her into a good college and career.

But she did marry me, so maybe the Barbie dolls warped her mind after all.
 
2014-03-10 01:20:24 PM

miss diminutive: Interesting study. I wonder if young boys who play with G.I. Joe are more prone to aggression than boys who play with say, Lego?

As a girl raised on Lego, Nerf and board games (three older brothers) I was never really into dolls or Barbie. The few I did get as gifts were quickly slingshot into neighbours pools or melted with magnifying glasses.


You Rule
 
2014-03-10 01:27:34 PM

CoonAce: What a complete crock of shiat.  My wife, when she was a little girl, played with Barbies; she went to Harvard College and currently has a very successful white-collar career in Los Angeles.  She is a strong advocate for women in the office, and is mentoring a high school girl (who probably also played with Barbie dolls) to try to get her into a good college and career.

But she did marry me, so maybe the Barbie dolls warped her mind after all.


Wait......you DO have genitals, right?  B^D
 
2014-03-10 01:45:12 PM

miss diminutive: Interesting study. boys who play with say, Lego?I wonder if young boys who play with G.I. Joe are more prone to aggression than

As a girl raised on Lego, Nerf and board games (three older brothers) I was never really into dolls or Barbie. The few I did get as gifts were quickly slingshot into neighbours pools or melted with magnifying glasses.


Only if he has the Kung Fu grip
 
2014-03-10 01:54:18 PM
That's it, I'm throwing away my daughter's Barbies when I get home...

//no not really, what a crock of sh*t
 
2014-03-10 01:54:37 PM

BluVeinThrobber: miss diminutive: Interesting study. boys who play with say, Lego?I wonder if young boys who play with G.I. Joe are more prone to aggression than

As a girl raised on Lego, Nerf and board games (three older brothers) I was never really into dolls or Barbie. The few I did get as gifts were quickly slingshot into neighbours pools or melted with magnifying glasses.

Only if he has the Kung Fu grip


My G.I. Joe had Swivel Arm Battle Grip too, thank you very much

/still have them all, my son plays with them
//still have the USS Flagg too, just not all the pieces
 
2014-03-10 01:54:41 PM
37 kids, that is an extremely small sample for something like this, was there a control group that didn't play with any toys, what was their reaction to the pictures?
 
2014-03-10 02:02:38 PM

king_nacho: 37 kids, that is an extremely small sample for something like this, was there a control group that didn't play with any toys, what was their reaction to the pictures?


When I was a kid, I played little league baseball. It made me want to be a professional baseball player, but it also severely limited my career choices in that I found out I wasn't any good at it.
 
2014-03-10 02:25:54 PM

Anayalator: It may be tired and cliche, but I still hear parents of girls praise them for their beauty and charm, but not as much their effort or outcomes.


Not true. I constantly praise my little girl for her sammich making skills and her ability to fetch me cold beer from the fridge in a timely fashion.
 
2014-03-10 03:22:43 PM
I guess this means as an adult I should be a dinosaur that rampages around eating soldiers and cars with an occasional woman since my sister didn't always guard her barbies
 
2014-03-10 03:52:18 PM
So I guess Skank Ho Barbie is off the Christmas list (again!).
 
2014-03-10 04:17:19 PM

CoonAce: What a complete crock of shiat.  My wife, when she was a little girl, played with Barbies; she went to Harvard College and currently has a very successful white-collar career in Los Angeles.  She is a strong advocate for women in the office, and is mentoring a high school girl (who probably also played with Barbie dolls) to try to get her into a good college and career.

But she did marry me, so maybe the Barbie dolls warped her mind after all.


You know, I'm sure there are women who gradated from Harvard that were beaten or neglected as children. That doesn't mean it's optimal.
 
2014-03-10 04:25:38 PM
I just got done teaching a Statistics lecture focusing on psychological research comparing group means, so I'm really in the mood for this thread.

First, for those who are yelling "that's a crock, because anecdote!", do you understand that these studies use sample statistics to infer general trends in the underlying population, not the minute details of your specific life?  Yelling about how you know someone who played with Barbies but still had a career is right up there with yelling that smoking is fine because you know some guy who smoked and lived to be ninety, or that racism is completely over because you know of a Black guy who makes more money than you.

Second:

king_nacho: 37 kids, that is an extremely small sample for something like this, was there a control group that didn't play with any toys, what was their reaction to the pictures?


Now THAT is a proper criticism.  In order for the usual set of statistical analyses to work, a researcher should have at least 30 participants per group.  So if our three groups are (1) sexualized Barbie, (2) professional looking Barbie, and (3) Mrs. Potato Head, then they should have recruited 90 participants.  Also, I want to see the effect size statistic, because this could be a case of "statistically significant but miniscule" results.

/good thing my daughters have both Barbies and Potato Head toys
 
2014-03-10 04:53:55 PM
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2014-03-10 04:59:58 PM
I can't imagine why playing with a doll whose feet are always on tip-toe and whose torso lacks sufficient size to contain the necessary internal organs might make girls think their career options are limited.
 
2014-03-10 05:35:24 PM

JackieRabbit: So I guess Skank Ho Barbie is off the Christmas list (again!).


As the only one who would dare give my three-year-old his one big Christmas wish (a Barbie doll - yeah)...I would have to say, "Give 'em all the Barbies they want!"

/He's an adult (6'3", gorgeous and, yes, heterosexual).
//(I also didn't care what color blankets he wore - yet other people did. "Pink? Oh, the horror!")
 
2014-03-10 06:03:40 PM
Of maybe those that choose to buy their children barbies tend to be less involved with their children.
 
2014-03-10 06:46:59 PM
You don't need a PhD to figure out that if your best friend has all the cool stuff like a pink corvette, dream home in Malibu, gay boyfriend beard with trust fund, etc and she lets you use/play with her stuff any time that you want...then why would you ever need to go to school, get a job and buy your own stuff?

Duh.
 
2014-03-10 07:39:35 PM

mrlewish: Of maybe those that choose to buy their children barbies tend to be less involved with their children.


RTFA. It was a randomized three-group experiment, not a survey.
 
2014-03-10 09:18:01 PM
Or maybe the researchers have a predetermined agenda. Maybe

Seems like the focus should start shifting to boys needs at some point don't ya think?
 
2014-03-10 09:26:06 PM
Thirty-seven girls from 4 years to 7 years

Wow a whole 37 girls. Must have been an exhausting research.
 
2014-03-10 09:47:15 PM

Son of Thunder: mrlewish: Of maybe those that choose to buy their children barbies tend to be less involved with their children.

RTFA. It was a randomized three-group experiment, not a survey.


Not a very good experiment, needs at least 30 kids per group, and needs a control group. No conclusions can be drawn from this.
 
2014-03-11 01:20:46 AM
Oh good.  I can now blame Barbie for me being a failure.  /whew.  It isn't my fault!  I feel better all ready...
 
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