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(NYPost)   Father of Sandy Hook killer throws his son under the AK-47   (nypost.com) divider line 443
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2014-03-10 09:51:04 AM  
Good.
 
2014-03-10 09:56:18 AM  
AK-47 type bus.
 
2014-03-10 09:58:35 AM  
That was a much better and much more reasonable article than I was expecting . . . Did something happen to the NY Post, or is this just a crazy aberration?
 
2014-03-10 09:58:37 AM  
Or maybe he knows his son was batsh*t crazy, and isn't in denial about it.
 
2014-03-10 09:59:22 AM  
He should still be sterilized just in case.
 
2014-03-10 09:59:23 AM  
I feel for the guy. It's kind of like being related to Hitler. It's just damn sad all the way around.
 
2014-03-10 09:59:51 AM  
I don't blame him, poor guy. I can only imagine the shame of having a monster for a son. : /
 
2014-03-10 10:01:52 AM  
Why would people send him candy?  Are there razor blades inserted?
 
2014-03-10 10:01:59 AM  
Can someone elaborated on the headline? I'm not sure I understand why it's being used in this context ; I normally associate being 'thrown under' as a negative, but that doesn't jive here.
 
2014-03-10 10:02:29 AM  
He hadn't seen his son in two years.  That's two birthdays, two Christmases, etc. where he couldn't be bothered to drive up to see his troubled son.  Now he wishes the kid was never born, got rid of all photos like he never existed.  Kind of a douche of a dad.
 
2014-03-10 10:03:49 AM  
"You're not a parent if you haven't flipped off your kid at the back of their head at least once."
-Louie ck
 
2014-03-10 10:04:13 AM  
Ehh, I would have told the post to go away. If my son was a monster and did this, I would hide away and wait for the media to go away and then try and make some amends. But I would stay away from the press.
 
2014-03-10 10:04:14 AM  
Weirdly enough, the Daily Fail had an even more comprehensive article about the interview: Link

And I can't help but feel for the guy, and for the mother who was killed.
 
2014-03-10 10:04:27 AM  
I think it's been pretty exhaustively established that the kid was absolutely bananas. Dad just had the good fortune not to be home when the kid's bananas spilt.
 
2014-03-10 10:06:14 AM  
You should have linked to the original source, The New Yorker. Peter Lanza did not speak with the NY Post or the Daily Mail.
 
2014-03-10 10:06:15 AM  
Way to take a quote out of context. I just read the New Yorker interview online. I suggest going straight to the source.
 
2014-03-10 10:07:32 AM  
The New Yorker posted a very thorough article on this interview, extremely well written.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/03/17/140317fa_fact_solomon? cu rrentPage=all

Sympathy for the victims and their families will always be there, but it's easy to forget the killer's family suffers too.  How do you start to fathom your own flesh and blood is capable of doing something so profoundly evil and heinous?
 
2014-03-10 10:08:24 AM  
To me it sounds like he knows he has failed (miserably) as a father and husband and now that everyone knows this  he's doing his best to distance himself from his son absolutely.

Kind of like my dad.  Hey dad, hope you're reading this!!!!  Not really like my dad, but you did forget my birthday this past January farker!!!
 
2014-03-10 10:09:01 AM  

dajoro: He hadn't seen his son in two years.  That's two birthdays, two Christmases, etc. where he couldn't be bothered to drive up to see his troubled son.  Now he wishes the kid was never born, got rid of all photos like he never existed.  Kind of a douche of a dad.


according to some reports his ex wife told him not to see his son.
 
2014-03-10 10:09:38 AM  
So, lets see.  Someone kills a bunch of people.  Parents either 1) Say he was a good kid, or 2) throw them under a bus.  Either way, people get outraged.  WTF?
 
2014-03-10 10:10:46 AM  

Lady Indica: Weirdly enough, the Daily Fail had an even more comprehensive article about the interview: Link

And I can't help but feel for the guy, and for the mother who was killed.


The father? Sure. Mother? Not at all and she got what was coming to her.

Even if the father were to be in denial, she was worse off and was codependent and complicit in refusing to get the killer the help that he needed, and was the one that ultimately armed him.

Adam Lanza was a monster, but his mother Nancy was the one that let him off of the leash to kill.
 
2014-03-10 10:10:49 AM  

Lady Indica: And I can't help but feel for the guy, and for the mother who was killed.


The mother was a gun nut who supplied her mentally ill child with weapons. Can't feel too bad for her.
 
2014-03-10 10:11:14 AM  
Is any one else tired of this Sandy Hook crap?

Yes, it was horrible that a disturbed young man killed his mother, stole her guns, and slaughtered a bunch of kids. As a CT resident, it is non-stop Sandy Hook news. This weekend, the local morning news was full of "26 bike riders going to DC because ... Sandy Hook". Ugh, let it die already.
 
2014-03-10 10:11:54 AM  
So he was crazy? Imagine that.
 
2014-03-10 10:13:40 AM  

smoky2010: Is any one else tired of this Sandy Hook crap?

Yes, it was horrible that a disturbed young man killed his mother, stole her guns, and slaughtered a bunch of kids. As a CT resident, it is non-stop Sandy Hook news. This weekend, the local morning news was full of "26 bike riders going to DC because ... Sandy Hook". Ugh, let it die already.


Unless they have a DeLorean with a Flux Capacitor. Then I'd like to hear about it.
 
2014-03-10 10:15:05 AM  
I'm happy that the father is making a point in distinguishing between autism and whatever other underlying condition his son had.  Got really tired of reading the breathless tabloid explanations of Asperger's Syndrome. They usually made it sound like people with AS were sociopaths, which I guess you would think if you just read some little snip about it on a medical site.

The difference, in a nutshell, is that sociopaths have no empathy.  They know things are hurtful or abusive, but either don't care or aren't able to.  People with AS have empathy, but they have to struggle to read and understand the emotions of the people around them.

It must be excrucating for this guy to keep talking about this.  He's really brave.
 
2014-03-10 10:16:10 AM  
Lady Indica:
And I can't help but feel for the guy, and for the mother who was killed.

The mother is as much at fault as the kid. She was a nutjob who did nothing to prevent this, and stocked the house with the murder weapons.
 
2014-03-10 10:17:46 AM  

dajoro: He hadn't seen his son in two years.  That's two birthdays, two Christmases, etc. where he couldn't be bothered to drive up to see his troubled son.  Now he wishes the kid was never born, got rid of all photos like he never existed.  Kind of a douche of a dad.


Not only that, but he thought he was a weird kid from the beginning.  It sounds like he distanced himself from his kid way before he hadn't seen him for 2 years.
 
2014-03-10 10:18:12 AM  

James Rieper: People with AS have empathy, but they have to struggle to read and understand the emotions of the people around them.


People with AS also are just generally making up a diagnosis to justify having shiat social skills.
 
2014-03-10 10:18:33 AM  

doglover: smoky2010: Is any one else tired of this Sandy Hook crap?

Yes, it was horrible that a disturbed young man killed his mother, stole her guns, and slaughtered a bunch of kids. As a CT resident, it is non-stop Sandy Hook news. This weekend, the local morning news was full of "26 bike riders going to DC because ... Sandy Hook". Ugh, let it die already.

Unless they have a DeLorean with a Flux Capacitor. Then I'd like to hear about it.


Why?  So you can make some political hay out of the senseless deaths of poor innocent children?
 
2014-03-10 10:18:38 AM  

Claude Ballse: The father? Sure. Mother? Not at all and she got what was coming to her.


No. She didn't deserve to be killed. It is nigh on impossible to look at your own flesh and blood and think that they are able to kill. She knew he was an jerky nut, not a potential killer.
 
2014-03-10 10:18:57 AM  

doglover: smoky2010: Is any one else tired of this Sandy Hook crap?

Yes, it was horrible that a disturbed young man killed his mother, stole her guns, and slaughtered a bunch of kids. As a CT resident, it is non-stop Sandy Hook news. This weekend, the local morning news was full of "26 bike riders going to DC because ... Sandy Hook". Ugh, let it die already.

Unless they have a DeLorean with a Flux Capacitor. Then I'd like to hear about it.


All you need to do is tune into the local Fox station (Fox61) and you can watch all about it. You can watch the live-stream of the news and count the references to Sandy Hook. I'm thinking about making it a drinking game.
 
2014-03-10 10:19:08 AM  

James Rieper: It must be excrucating for this guy to keep talking about this. He's really brave.


It's also the best thing to do.

If you deny things, people will hound you. And with the internet now, they can do it forever automagically, so they can pull your deets up in a minute on a slow news day and come pester you some more.

Air your dirty laundry quickly and always be good for a tear and some commiseration, though, and you'll be left alone most of the time and treated respectfully by the pigs who come a truffle huntin'.
 
2014-03-10 10:19:41 AM  
The New Yorker article is very well written...sounds like the mother was in denial about her sons condition.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/03/17/140317fa_fact_solomon
 
2014-03-10 10:20:40 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: Or maybe he knows his son was batsh*t crazy, and isn't in denial about it.


Anyone who kills is insane. Hell, most people walikng around beliveing the bullshiat are insane. "Well-adjusted" is the biggest, saddest joke of a compromise, when it means you are merely coping with a thoroughly abstracted societal structure.
 
2014-03-10 10:22:38 AM  
"Nancy and Peter thought that their son was nonviolent; the best way to build a connection to someone with Asperger's is often to participate in his fascinations."
 
2014-03-10 10:23:01 AM  

jerseygrl: The New Yorker posted a very thorough article on this interview, extremely well written.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/03/17/140317fa_fact_solomon? cu rrentPage=all

Sympathy for the victims and their families will always be there, but it's easy to forget the killer's family suffers too.  How do you start to fathom your own flesh and blood is capable of doing something so profoundly evil and heinous?


I was going to link to that same article.   I can't imagine living with that kind of spiritual burden.
 
2014-03-10 10:23:07 AM  

R.A.Danny: No. She didn't deserve to be killed. It is nigh on impossible to look at your own flesh and blood and think that they are able to kill. She knew he was an jerky nut, not a potential killer.


You don't give "jerky nuts" access to weapons. If she wanted to own guns then she should have taken extra precautions to ensure that her mentally unstable son did not have access to them.
 
2014-03-10 10:23:24 AM  

RoyHobbs22: Why would people send him candy?  Are there razor blades inserted?


He doesn't eat it, in case it's poisoned.
 
2014-03-10 10:23:43 AM  

barefoot in the head: Anyone who kills is insane.


What if I kill someone who is trying to kill me?
 
2014-03-10 10:24:09 AM  
Some men don't know how to be fathers and realize it very late in the game. Being a good father means having and showing unconditional love for all of your children. This doesn't mean spoiling them, its not that simple.

This guy had no contact with his son. He was definitely part of the problem, though not responsible. When you have a kid, it's a lifelong responsibility.
 
2014-03-10 10:24:17 AM  

barefoot in the head: The Crepes of Wrath: Or maybe he knows his son was batsh*t crazy, and isn't in denial about it.

Anyone who kills is insane. Hell, most people walikng around beliveing the bullshiat are insane. "Well-adjusted" is the biggest, saddest joke of a compromise, when it means you are merely coping with a thoroughly abstracted societal structure.


Uh.  Yeah.
 
2014-03-10 10:24:39 AM  

omahatattoo: dajoro: He hadn't seen his son in two years.  That's two birthdays, two Christmases, etc. where he couldn't be bothered to drive up to see his troubled son.  Now he wishes the kid was never born, got rid of all photos like he never existed.  Kind of a douche of a dad.

Not only that, but he thought he was a weird kid from the beginning.  It sounds like he distanced himself from his kid way before he hadn't seen him for 2 years.


Read the New Yorker article, it explains all that really well. He didn't bail on his kid.
 
2014-03-10 10:25:35 AM  
At least he's not pulling the "my baby was a good boy" routine.

Farking Canuck

The mother was a gun nut who supplied her mentally ill child with weapons. Can't feel too bad for her.

If by "supplied her mentally ill child with weapons," you mean "was murdered by her mentally-ill child so he could take her weapons," sure. There's a slight difference in there somewhere, unless I'm missing some huge chunk of the story.
 
2014-03-10 10:25:47 AM  

Farking Canuck: R.A.Danny: No. She didn't deserve to be killed. It is nigh on impossible to look at your own flesh and blood and think that they are able to kill. She knew he was an jerky nut, not a potential killer.

You don't give "jerky nuts" access to weapons. If she wanted to own guns then she should have taken extra precautions to ensure that her mentally unstable son did not have access to them.


Yes, she is criminally at fault, because she was seeking institutional care for him and had unsecured guns in the house. That's incredibly stupid.
 
2014-03-10 10:26:48 AM  

Facetious_Speciest: If by "supplied her mentally ill child with weapons," you mean "was murdered by her mentally-ill child so he could take her weapons," sure


And what did he use to murder her if the goal of murdering her was to get to the weapons?
 
2014-03-10 10:28:34 AM  

Farking Canuck: Facetious_Speciest: If by "supplied her mentally ill child with weapons," you mean "was murdered by her mentally-ill child so he could take her weapons," sure

And what did he use to murder her if the goal of murdering her was to get to the weapons?


A legally owned firearm used in an illegal act. Stop blaming the victim.
 
2014-03-10 10:29:22 AM  
Farking Canuck

And what did he use to murder her if the goal of murdering her was to get to the weapons?

Now you're positing she gave him the weapon he murdered her with?

I said she "was murdered by her mentally-ill child so he could take her weapons." In addition to claiming she gave him firearms, are you now positing that he didn't kill her so he could take her firearms to go kill a bunch of kids? If she would have allowed it, why kill her?
 
2014-03-10 10:29:22 AM  

Waldo Pepper: dajoro: He hadn't seen his son in two years.  That's two birthdays, two Christmases, etc. where he couldn't be bothered to drive up to see his troubled son.  Now he wishes the kid was never born, got rid of all photos like he never existed.  Kind of a douche of a dad.

according to some reports his ex wife told him not to see his son.


Ok?  Honestly I think he was more than happy to not have to deal with his troubled son so when she said not to come around he took it as a get out of jail free card.   As a father of an ASD child I can't imagine ever not doing everything in my power to help him, if I had the resources of a VP of GE my child would have only the best therapists and physicians dealing with him, even if that meant taking his mother to court a lot.   This dude walked away from his kid, plain and simple.  He didn't want to have to deal with it and obviously didn't put up much of a fight when he was told not to come around.   As I see it, he failed in his duties as a father, now he wants off the hook.   Both of the parents are scumbags, no matter how this guy is trying to spin it.
 
2014-03-10 10:29:48 AM  

Animatronik: Yes, she is criminally at fault,


No laws were broken. There may have been a lapse in judgement, but she is no more to blame than a pretty girl in a short skirt being raped.
 
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