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(Time)   How can you call a country a democracy when the majority of people don't even vote, America? North Korea has 100% voter turnout. That's democracy in action   (time.com) divider line 53
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2014-03-10 12:24:28 AM  
In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

In Best Korea, 100% of eligible electorate voted for Kim Jong Un.

One of these leaders has had a shiatty time with the opposition party from the start of his regime. The other one has enjoyed huge popularity and success and has virtually no detractors.
 
2014-03-10 12:32:02 AM  
In this country, if you don't vote, you are not likely to be shot.
 
2014-03-10 12:37:35 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-10 12:48:31 AM  

ManateeGag: In this country, if you don't vote, you are not likely to be shot.


Or have three generations of your family thrown into a prison work camp.
 
2014-03-10 12:51:10 AM  
One of these things is not like the other
One of these things just doesn't belong
 
2014-03-10 12:55:49 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

In Best Korea, 100% of eligible electorate voted for Kim Jong Un.

One of these leaders has had a shiatty time with the opposition party from the start of his regime. The other one has enjoyed huge popularity and success and has virtually no detractors.


well then why don't you move there, bum hole??
 
2014-03-10 01:34:52 AM  
Do the North Koreans have a sort of "Washington Generals equivalent to their Harlem Globetrotters?  I totally would.  Like have one spoof party that has the worst possible platform.
 
2014-03-10 01:40:55 AM  
*clicks tfa*

It's a Murdoch-controlled WSJ article wrapped up in a right-leaning blog.

Heavens to Murgitroid.
 
2014-03-10 01:42:49 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.


Uh, it's more like 58%.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/election-results-2012-voter-turno ut -lower-than-2008-and-2004-report-says
 
2014-03-10 01:45:12 AM  
The first national 'election' under dictator Kim Jong Un -- with only one candidate on the ballot papers -- allows the state to conduct an unofficial census, as well as rubber-stamp state-chosen representatives for the national parliament

I like to rag on North Korea as much as the next guy, but I have to admit that this is perhaps the most clever thing North Korea has ever thought of.
 
2014-03-10 01:49:16 AM  
Yeah basically you walk into this open room, give them your name, then they give you a ballot paper with the name of the guy-you-are-supposed-to-vote-for on it.  You can either walk directly to the ballot box across the room and dump it in (which is a "yes" vote for the regime) or you can walk to the side of the room first, grab a single red ink pen sitting on a table to scratch the dude's name out (a "no" vote) and then drop it in the box.  There happens to be a couple of armed soldiers standing right by the table with the red ink pin and I seriously doubt you would be alive to make it to the ballot box if you so much as glance suspiciously at this red pen, much less attempt to use it.
 
2014-03-10 01:53:49 AM  
In Best Korea you have freedom of choice.

Your choice is "yes".
 
2014-03-10 02:00:37 AM  

The Big H: Yeah basically you walk into this open room, give them your name, then they give you a ballot paper with the name of the guy-you-are-supposed-to-vote-for on it.  You can either walk directly to the ballot box across the room and dump it in (which is a "yes" vote for the regime) or you can walk to the side of the room first, grab a single red ink pen sitting on a table to scratch the dude's name out (a "no" vote) and then drop it in the box.  There happens to be a couple of armed soldiers standing right by the table with the red ink pin and I seriously doubt you would be alive to make it to the ballot box if you so much as glance suspiciously at this red pen, much less attempt to use it.


Alright, you've sold me on it. I really want to scribble in red pen all over our ballots now.

There really is no other place in the world quite like Best Korea. It's bizarro.
 
2014-03-10 02:11:01 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

In Best Korea, 100% of eligible electorate voted for Kim Jong Un.

One of these leaders has had a shiatty time with the opposition party from the start of his regime. The other one has enjoyed huge popularity and success and has virtually no detractors.


livingthecollegelife.com
 
2014-03-10 02:20:54 AM  
you people STILL don't have AAG on ignore?

gluttons for punishment I guess.
 
2014-03-10 02:57:26 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Uh, it's more like 58%.


In Minnesota is 80%.  Perhaps we don't have a royally farked up voting system like the rest of the country.
 
2014-03-10 02:59:29 AM  
How many vote in Australia?
 
2014-03-10 03:00:26 AM  

log_jammin: you people STILL don't have AAG on ignore?

gluttons for punishment I guess.


He actually made a "real" comment in an obscure thread a few weeks back. He's already his own punishment: an Eastsider.
 
2014-03-10 03:09:13 AM  

www.politicaymoda.com
"Erectoral success-u! Suck it, Amelica!"

 
2014-03-10 03:23:14 AM  
lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-03-10 03:37:08 AM  

pup.socket: How many vote in Australia?


Depends how you count. Voting is "compulsory," but there's a minimal penalty and it's more about annoyance than force. 90-95% of registered voters vote at all. 80ish% of possible voters (not everyone is registered who could be) turn in an unspoilt ballot. A valid write-in for Baraco Barner would count in both of those stats, AFAIK, so the number of meaningful votes is probably a bit lower.

/so, how many = about 13 million, depending
 
2014-03-10 03:53:38 AM  
I get the point of the headline and the article.   So well, with that said, a democracy is far more than dropping a ballot in a ballot box.  I've always felt that 'Freedom of the Press"  is far more powerful.

/and the USA is not a democracy, it's a republic or something like that.
//so I'm told.
 
2014-03-10 04:00:25 AM  
Vote or be shot
Vote and you get  bowl of rice this week
 
2014-03-10 04:01:23 AM  

log_jammin: you people STILL don't have AAG on ignore?

gluttons for punishment I guess.


Attention whore much?
 
2014-03-10 04:09:23 AM  

gingerjet: Mrtraveler01: Uh, it's more like 58%.


In Minnesota is 80%.  Perhaps we don't have a royally farked up voting system like the rest of the country.



I wouldn't be so quick to brag about Minnesota voters.
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2014-03-10 04:15:53 AM  

Gordon Bennett: gingerjet: Mrtraveler01: Uh, it's more like 58%.


In Minnesota is 80%.  Perhaps we don't have a royally farked up voting system like the rest of the country.


I wouldn't be so quick to brag about Minnesota voters.
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Do not mock those who recognize your superiors, mammal. When the fleet makes landfall they will be lifted from their kind and placed among ours to rule.
 
2014-03-10 04:27:35 AM  
At least one of the US political parties believes there are too many people voting right now as it is. I say "at least one" because the Democrats don't appear to be trying all that hard to stop all the anti-voting measures the Republicans keep putting out there.
 
2014-03-10 04:28:42 AM  
The People's Democratic Republic of North Korea IS a Democracy, subby. It's right there in the name! You can always tell what a nation or organization is by the name! There's the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea (a democracy); the Moral Majority (moral, and a majority); the Bolshevik Party ("majority") and the National Socialist German Worker's Party (socialists)!

It's ALL TRUE! They said so on Free Republic and I heard it right here on Fark!
 
2014-03-10 05:00:09 AM  

TerminalEchoes: log_jammin: you people STILL don't have AAG on ignore?

gluttons for punishment I guess.

Attention whore much?


yup that's me. I'm known far and wide as Farks resident attention whore.
 
2014-03-10 05:13:58 AM  

log_jammin: TerminalEchoes: log_jammin: you people STILL don't have AAG on ignore?

gluttons for punishment I guess.

Attention whore much?

yup that's me. I'm known far and wide as Farks resident attention whore.


And nothing to be ashamed of - it's the Internet's oldest and noblest profession!

Me, I'm more of an attention pimp.
 
2014-03-10 06:26:00 AM  

Mrtraveler01: AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

Uh, it's more like 58%.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/election-results-2012-voter-turno ut -lower-than-2008-and-2004-report-says


And did all 58% who turned up vote for Obama? Or was it just the majority of those 58% thereby bringing the total to 33%?
 
2014-03-10 06:39:27 AM  
Then again, NK's ballots have only one candidate (with a chance of getting elected) fewer than American ballots.
 
2014-03-10 06:45:56 AM  

Bendal: At least one of the US political parties believes there are too many people voting right now as it is. I say "at least one" because the Democrats don't appear to be trying all that hard to stop all the anti-voting measures the Republicans keep putting out there.


Probably because it keeps backfiring on the GOP by denying white retirees their ballots. As soon as that happens to the mother of a local Tea Party organizer, the relevant local law will be repealed.
 
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2014-03-10 06:53:41 AM  
Full name of North Korea:

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

They have to be Democratic!  It's right there in the name!

*using the "Nazis were socialists... it's right there in the name!" theory of political logic.
 
2014-03-10 07:01:41 AM  

Bendal: At least one of the US political parties believes there are too many people voting right now as it is. I say "at least one" because the Democrats don't appear to be trying all that hard to stop all the anti-voting measures the Republicans keep putting out there.


Democratic groups kick up a fuss every time, but fact of the matter is that Republicans control many state legislatures, with veto-proof majorities after the 2012 vote in Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, both Dakotas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.  There's literally nothing that CAN be done in those states if the Republicans decide to do it, other than court challenges.
 
2014-03-10 07:46:53 AM  
Can't wait till Fox News spins this by claiming that voting is like supporting North Korea, so we need to do everything we can to help prevent people from voting, especially in this poor and blah neighborhoods.
 
2014-03-10 08:29:47 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-10 10:18:38 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: pup.socket: How many vote in Australia?

Depends how you count. Voting is "compulsory," but there's a minimal penalty and it's more about annoyance than force. 90-95% of registered voters vote at all. 80ish% of possible voters (not everyone is registered who could be) turn in an unspoilt ballot. A valid write-in for Baraco Barner would count in both of those stats, AFAIK, so the number of meaningful votes is probably a bit lower.

/so, how many = about 13 million, depending


Thanks. IMHO, that's the number any democratic country should be shooting for.
 
2014-03-10 10:19:13 AM  

pup.socket: the number


The percentage, obviously.
 
2014-03-10 12:05:59 PM  

fusillade762: Or have three generations of your family thrown into a prison work camp.


Do the prison workers vote too?
 
2014-03-10 12:22:41 PM  

Kittypie070: AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

In Best Korea, 100% of eligible electorate voted for Kim Jong Un.

One of these leaders has had a shiatty time with the opposition party from the start of his regime. The other one has enjoyed huge popularity and success and has virtually no detractors.

well then why don't you move there, bum hole??


*snerks* Haven't heard that in awhile.
 
2014-03-10 12:33:06 PM  
Came looking for the "Hate guns, hate religion, love big government" pic, leaving unsatisfied.
 
2014-03-10 01:54:55 PM  

lucksi: Mrtraveler01: AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

Uh, it's more like 58%.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/election-results-2012-voter-turno ut -lower-than-2008-and-2004-report-says

And did all 58% who turned up vote for Obama? Or was it just the majority of those 58% thereby bringing the total to 33%?


Yeah, duh.

People need to remember that those politicians on your TV represent a minority almost all the time.
Then when you take into account people who don't even register to vote, the numbers look even worse.
Hey, some people don't register to vote out of principle. The politician does not represent them.
 
2014-03-10 02:19:47 PM  

jigger: lucksi: Mrtraveler01: AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

Uh, it's more like 58%.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/election-results-2012-voter-turno ut -lower-than-2008-and-2004-report-says

And did all 58% who turned up vote for Obama? Or was it just the majority of those 58% thereby bringing the total to 33%?

Yeah, duh.

People need to remember that those politicians on your TV represent a minority almost all the time.
Then when you take into account people who don't even register to vote, the numbers look even worse.
Hey, some people don't register to vote out of principle. The politician does not represent them.


So nobody actually overwhelmingly elected Obama twice to the White House. It was all just numbers crunching.

Hey come to think of it, Iraq might need another Propaganda Minister. Con: You'd have to learn a funny 2nd language, though.
 
2014-03-10 02:33:15 PM  

whidbey: jigger: lucksi: Mrtraveler01: AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

Uh, it's more like 58%.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/election-results-2012-voter-turno ut -lower-than-2008-and-2004-report-says

And did all 58% who turned up vote for Obama? Or was it just the majority of those 58% thereby bringing the total to 33%?

Yeah, duh.

People need to remember that those politicians on your TV represent a minority almost all the time.
Then when you take into account people who don't even register to vote, the numbers look even worse.
Hey, some people don't register to vote out of principle. The politician does not represent them.

So nobody actually overwhelmingly elected Obama twice to the White House. It was all just numbers crunching.

Hey come to think of it, Iraq might need another Propaganda Minister. Con: You'd have to learn a funny 2nd language, though.


Since I have great disdain for a certain meme, I shall instead speak an alternative acceptable to everyone and still within the spirit of what you said.

Not one said arithmetic would be required
 
2014-03-10 03:43:53 PM  
If anybody truly cared about voter turnout they would be pushing to get rid of electoral votes.
Good luck convincing an 18 year old in Utah that his vote matters.
 
2014-03-10 04:21:34 PM  

whidbey: jigger: lucksi: Mrtraveler01: AverageAmericanGuy: In America, 33% of the eligible electorate put Obama into office.

Uh, it's more like 58%.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/election-results-2012-voter-turno ut -lower-than-2008-and-2004-report-says

And did all 58% who turned up vote for Obama? Or was it just the majority of those 58% thereby bringing the total to 33%?

Yeah, duh.

People need to remember that those politicians on your TV represent a minority almost all the time.
Then when you take into account people who don't even register to vote, the numbers look even worse.
Hey, some people don't register to vote out of principle. The politician does not represent them.

So nobody actually overwhelmingly elected Obama twice to the White House. It was all just numbers crunching.

Hey come to think of it, Iraq might need another Propaganda Minister. Con: You'd have to learn a funny 2nd language, though.


Right. A minority of voting-age people voted Obama, or almost any politician, into office. If you think it was anywhere near an overwhelming majority then I don't know what to tell you.
 
2014-03-10 04:26:05 PM  

Saners: If anybody truly cared about voter turnout they would be pushing to get rid of electoral votes.
Good luck convincing an 18 year old in Utah that his vote matters.


From one of my favorite books:

"Of course young people don't vote. It's a right handed to them, and therefore they don't appreciate it. Young people care about two things, and two things only: Those things they have to fight for, and those things they're told not to do. Going around telling teens to vote: that's your problem right there. You're telling them to do something. ... 'Every young person hearing this or watching this, listen to me now and tell all your friends I said this: Don't vote! Come election day, you are absolutely not to vote! I forbid it! I flatly forbid it!"
 
2014-03-10 04:42:33 PM  

neversubmit: [i.imgur.com image 640x1136]


Um, wrong thread?
 
2014-03-10 05:22:53 PM  
Don't any of you dare mess with Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf, he was a funny dude!
 
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