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2014-03-10 12:20:11 AM  
I tell you what, I probably won't be entertained by this lousy CG ark.

i.dailymail.co.uk

In the meantime, Islamophobes, at least be aware that the fatwa is nothing more than a religious ruling on the issue at hand, which is whether the portrayal of prophets of Islam is sacrilegious or not. And, like every other farking thing in the universe, yes, it is sacrilegious to some Muslims.
 
2014-03-10 12:31:09 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I tell you what, I probably won't be entertained by this lousy CG ark.

In the meantime, Islamophobes, at least be aware that the fatwa is nothing more than a religious ruling on the issue at hand, which is whether the portrayal of prophets of Islam is sacrilegious or not. And, like every other farking thing in the universe, yes, it is sacrilegious to some Muslims.


ryanesaki.com
 
2014-03-10 12:38:54 AM  
Is someone going to kidnap him or something?
 
2014-03-10 12:42:54 AM  
I'm not totally sure what a "fatwa" is, but it appears to be working:

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2014-03-10 12:46:35 AM  
The film also stars Anthony Hopkins and Emma Watson

Wow, really? What about Multiple Miggs?
 
2014-03-10 12:46:51 AM  
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2014-03-10 12:48:24 AM  
So don't go see it, and don't release it in your crappy countries.

Why is that so difficult for some people to handle?
 
2014-03-10 12:58:02 AM  
I have issued a fatwa against Islamic fatwas.

Come at me, Mo!
 
2014-03-10 12:59:35 AM  
Well....it's not like anyone takes this stuff seriously anymore...
 
2014-03-10 01:02:24 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I tell you what, I probably won't be entertained by this lousy CG ark.


Funny, because the image you chose shows the portion of the ark that was an actual physically built set:

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They built the front & ramp and CG'd the rear (and the water, a bunch of animals I assume).

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In any case, I have virtually no excitement about this movie. The studio should have learned a lesson from Bruce Almighty 2, but I don't think ANYONE saw that movie, so how could they remember it?

/ Right
//What's a Cubit?
 
2014-03-10 01:12:30 AM  
Sounds like a new episode of this:

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2014-03-10 01:15:26 AM  
I am going to let you all in on a little secret, the story of Noah was apocryphal of many stories surrounding great floods which likely occurred at the end of the last Ice Age, and the beginnings of human civilization.
 
2014-03-10 01:16:40 AM  
Dear UAE, Qatar, and Bahrain:

I know you guys like to claim that you're modern countries quite similar to the West. However when you do stuff like this over something so inane, it reminds us that you're still set in your ways regardless of how many shiny new skyscrapers, shopping malls, and airports you all decide to build.

Sincerely,
Mrtraveler01
 
2014-03-10 01:18:11 AM  
Am I the only one who found the airing of an ad for this movie during Cosmos...weird?
 
2014-03-10 01:21:36 AM  

Harry_Seldon: I am going to let you all in on a little secret, the story of Noah was apocryphal of many stories surrounding great floods which likely occurred at the end of the last Ice Age, and the beginnings of human civilization.



That's a beheading for sure. And some genital mutilation beforehand.
 
2014-03-10 01:24:17 AM  
Islam forbids representing holy figures in art, instead using conceptual line patterns and lettering to adorn the walls of mosques.

Islam does no such thing.  A bunch of humorless dorks who probably diddle kids forbid it.
 
2014-03-10 01:26:47 AM  
More fatwa shaming.

Leave the guy alone, he's getting old.
 
2014-03-10 01:29:44 AM  
Could you give it a farking rest, you primates.

Go back to the Iron Age, you don't belong with us here in the future.
 
2014-03-10 01:35:57 AM  

Farker Soze: Islam forbids representing holy figures in art, instead using conceptual line patterns and lettering to adorn the walls of mosques.

Islam does no such thing.  A bunch of humorless dorks who probably diddle kids forbid it.


[citation needed]
 
2014-03-10 01:37:51 AM  

Harry_Seldon: I am going to let you all in on a little secret, the storyies of Noah wasere apocryphal of many stories surrounding great floods which likely occurred at the end of the last Ice Age, and the beginnings of human civilization.

There are two Noah stories in Genesis, that were woven together by a much later editor (likely Ezra or his scribes): one in the religion of Elohim aka El aka Bel aka Ba'al, and one in the religion of YHWH. When the narrative in, say, the KJV or many other English versions calls the god figure simply "God," you're reading the El/Ba'al version. When the narrative calls the god figure "the LORD", you're reading the YHWH version. When you unweave them and separate them out from each other, you get two complete stories, each of which is much more internally consistent than the woven-together version is.

Key differences include:

• El/Ba'al tells Noah to bring two of every kind of animal onto the Ark. YHWH tells him to bring two only of the unclean animal kinds, and seven each of the clean animal kinds (never mind that the whole distinction between "clean" and "unclean" animals isn't mentioned again for over another millennium or so in the Law of Moses (Leviticus Chapter 11 and Deuteronomy Chapter 14).

• El/Ba'al promises to never flood the Earth again, and puts His bow (qesheth, meaning the physical weapon that one shoots arrows with) in the cloud as a reminder to Himself of His promise. In the YHWH story, Noah builds an altar and sacrifices one each of the "clean" animals and birds (thus he apparently brought three mating pairs, plus one for this sacrifice), and YHWH is soothed by the "sweet savor" of the smoke, and this calms Him down so that He then promises never to flood the Earth again.
 
2014-03-10 01:42:17 AM  

Harry_Seldon: I am going to let you all in on a little secret, the story of Noah was apocryphal of many stories surrounding great floods which likely occurred at the end of the last Ice Age, and the beginnings of human civilization.


Epic of Gilgamesh
 
2014-03-10 02:03:51 AM  

COMALite J: Harry_Seldon: I am going to let you all in on a little secret, the storyies of Noah wasere apocryphal of many stories surrounding great floods which likely occurred at the end of the last Ice Age, and the beginnings of human civilization.
There are two Noah stories in Genesis, that were woven together by a much later editor (likely Ezra or his scribes): one in the religion of Elohim aka El aka Bel aka Ba'al, and one in the religion of YHWH. When the narrative in, say, the KJV or many other English versions calls the god figure simply "God," you're reading the El/Ba'al version. When the narrative calls the god figure "the LORD", you're reading the YHWH version. When you unweave them and separate them out from each other, you get two complete stories, each of which is much more internally consistent than the woven-together version is.

Key differences include:

• El/Ba'al tells Noah to bring two of every kind of animal onto the Ark. YHWH tells him to bring two only of the unclean animal kinds, and seven each of the clean animal kinds (never mind that the whole distinction between "clean" and "unclean" animals isn't mentioned again for over another millennium or so in the Law of Moses (Leviticus Chapter 11 and Deuteronomy Chapter 14).

• El/Ba'al promises to never flood the Earth again, and puts His bow (qesheth, meaning the physical weapon that one shoots arrows with) in the cloud as a reminder to Himself of His promise. In the YHWH story, Noah builds an altar and sacrifices one each of the "clean" animals and birds (thus he apparently brought three mating pairs, plus one for this sacrifice), and YHWH is soothed by the "sweet savor" of the smoke, and this calms Him down so that He then promises never to flood the Earth again.


What? No SPOILER ALERT? I was really looking forward to being surprised by yet another Torah-Bible-Quran based movie. I am a big fan of Russell Crow and his horrible horrible movies. I hope someone drops a fatwa right on his head.
 
2014-03-10 02:18:33 AM  

sirrerun: Am I the only one who found the airing of an ad for this movie during Cosmos...weird?


It'll make sense to you in Episode 11 when NDT wonders aloud if maybe Noah's Ark is an allegory for the giant alien ship that populated Earth.
 
2014-03-10 02:22:02 AM  
Why can't they ever do something useful, like issue a fatwa against the editorial staff of the Daily Mail?
 
2014-03-10 02:25:19 AM  
That movie deserves a fatwa. Crowe, maybe not, but that movie? Kill it with napalm.
 
2014-03-10 02:58:00 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Why can't they ever do something useful, like issue a fatwa against the editorial staff of the Daily Mail?


A fatwa is not a death warrant.  It is a decision by one or more Islamic legal authorities on some question posed to them.*   99.lotsof9s% of fatwas read like a cross between a SCOTUS decision and a Miss Manners column. In this case, somebody probably asked Al Azhar "Can I, as a good Muslim, go see this movie, since it depicts a Quranic figure?"  And Al Azhar said "Nope".  And anyone who considers Al Azhar to be a valid source of Islamic jurisprudence, won't go see the movie.  And that's about it.  For countries that accept Al Azhar's rulings, this then means they won't allow the movie in theaters.  But millions of Gulf Muslims are not going to pour out of the Middle East on a zealous crusade to track down Russel Crowe - they will either just not see the movie or torrent the thing.

* Yes, I will stipulate it is best known in the West when in the context of someone claiming it is kosher to kill someone, but those are generally the equivalent of Idaho militias declaring they can shoot negros on sight.  And admittedly, one of these Idaho militias is the Iranian religious authorities.
 
2014-03-10 03:07:59 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: I'm not totally sure what a "fatwa" is, but it appears to be working:


What's up with the Michigan shirt?
 
2014-03-10 03:14:10 AM  
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Riiiight.

What's a fatwa?
 
2014-03-10 03:16:48 AM  
For the whiners who complain about how atheists and secularists only "attack" Christians and Christianity:

i560.photobucket.com

There is no such thing as a good religion. They're all poison, every last one of them (and I'll cheerfully include the totalitarian ideologies). No exception. Anyone who tells other people to conform to some stone-age fairy-tale can go fark him/herself with a lamp-post.
 
2014-03-10 03:51:27 AM  
Man, Joaquin Phoenix doesn't fark around
 
2014-03-10 04:02:56 AM  
fark everyone involved with this story.
 
2014-03-10 04:07:19 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I tell you what, I probably won't be entertained by this lousy CG ark.

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x415]

In the meantime, Islamophobes, at least be aware that the fatwa is nothing more than a religious ruling on the issue at hand, which is whether the portrayal of prophets of Islam is sacrilegious or not. And, like every other farking thing in the universe, yes, it is sacrilegious to some Muslims.


So?
 
2014-03-10 04:09:33 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: That movie deserves a fatwa. Crowe, maybe not, but that movie? Kill it with napalm.


Oh so you've already seen it? Is it that bad?
 
2014-03-10 04:13:41 AM  
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2014-03-10 04:14:44 AM  

JohnAnnArbor: The Pope of Manwich Village: I'm not totally sure what a "fatwa" is, but it appears to be working:

What's up with the Michigan shirt?


i was wondering that too, turns out it's mentioned on wikipedia:

"Crowe supports the University of Michigan Wolverines American football team, an interest that stems from his friendship with former Wolverines coach Lloyd Carr. Carr used Crowe's movie Cinderella Man to motivate his team in 2006 following a disappointing 7-5 season the previous year. Upon hearing of this, Crowe called Carr and invited him to Australia to address his Rugby league team the South Sydney Rabbitohs, an offer Carr took Crowe up on the following summer. In September 2007, after Carr came under fire following the Wolverines' 0-2 start, Crowe travelled to Ann Arbor, Michigan for the Wolverines' 15 September game against Notre Dame to show his support for Carr. He addressed the team before the game and watched from the sidelines as the Wolverines defeated the Irish 38-0. "
 
2014-03-10 04:17:16 AM  

Gyrfalcon: So don't go see it, and don't release it in your crappy countries.

Why is that so difficult for some people to handle?


well they pretty much are doing what you suggested, lending credence to the idea that it wasn't that difficult to handle.
 
2014-03-10 04:38:32 AM  
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2014-03-10 05:06:55 AM  

Uncle Tractor: For the whiners who complain about how atheists and secularists only "attack" Christians and Christianity:

[i560.photobucket.com image 466x368]

There is no such thing as a good religion. They're all poison, every last one of them (and I'll cheerfully include the totalitarian ideologies). No exception. Anyone who tells other people to conform to some stone-age fairy-tale can go fark him/herself with a lamp-post.


img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-10 05:52:41 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I tell you what, I probably won't be entertained by this lousy CG ark.



In the meantime, Islamophobes, at least be aware that the fatwa is nothing more than a religious ruling on the issue at hand, which is whether the portrayal of prophets of Islam is sacrilegious or not. And, like every other farking thing in the universe, yes, it is sacrilegious to some Muslims.


Yeah, religious ruling, which is why Salmon Rushdie his for so many years.....

Sorry but one religion still out crazies all others by a large margin.
 
2014-03-10 07:09:21 AM  

TerminalEchoes: rzrwiresunrise: That movie deserves a fatwa. Crowe, maybe not, but that movie? Kill it with napalm.

Oh so you've already seen it? Is it that bad?



Ricky Gervais provided a Behind The Scenes extra on the dvd.

http://youtu.be/Wb2DyHRu-bY
 
2014-03-10 07:12:59 AM  
Yeah, I wish they would themselves up and stop bothering everybody else.
 
2014-03-10 07:26:21 AM  
So, I'm torn. On one hand, I'm not really that interested in the movie. On the other hand, it pisses off the fanatics. On the third hand, the cast is really pretty good.

/Jennifer Connelly is still gorgeous, even if she could use a sandwich
 
2014-03-10 08:03:19 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Sounds like a new episode of this:

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I have no idea why subby didn't roll with some reference to that instead of Gladiator.
 
2014-03-10 08:05:38 AM  

phalamir: Dwight_Yeast: Why can't they ever do something useful, like issue a fatwa against the editorial staff of the Daily Mail?

A fatwa is not a death warrant.  It is a decision by one or more Islamic legal authorities on some question posed to them.*   99.lotsof9s% of fatwas read like a cross between a SCOTUS decision and a Miss Manners column. In this case, somebody probably asked Al Azhar "Can I, as a good Muslim, go see this movie, since it depicts a Quranic figure?"  And Al Azhar said "Nope".  And anyone who considers Al Azhar to be a valid source of Islamic jurisprudence, won't go see the movie.  And that's about it.  For countries that accept Al Azhar's rulings, this then means they won't allow the movie in theaters.  But millions of Gulf Muslims are not going to pour out of the Middle East on a zealous crusade to track down Russel Crowe - they will either just not see the movie or torrent the thing.

* Yes, I will stipulate it is best known in the West when in the context of someone claiming it is kosher to kill someone, but those are generally the equivalent of Idaho militias declaring they can shoot negros on sight.  And admittedly, one of these Idaho militias is the Iranian religious authorities.


I would like to see the Islamic edition of Dear Prudence issuing Fatwas.
 
2014-03-10 08:15:31 AM  

Mrtraveler01: I know you guys like to claim that you're modern countries quite similar to the West. However when you do stuff like this over something so inane, it reminds us that you're still set in your ways regardless of how many shiny new skyscrapers, shopping malls, and airports you all decide to build.


They're not modern countries. They're just old kingdoms that got blessed with money, and they act like the spoilt children of rich parents, blowing money on the equivalent of coke, parties and fast cars.
 
2014-03-10 08:25:29 AM  

spesimen: JohnAnnArbor: The Pope of Manwich Village: I'm not totally sure what a "fatwa" is, but it appears to be working:

What's up with the Michigan shirt?

i was wondering that too, turns out it's mentioned on wikipedia:

"Crowe supports the University of Michigan Wolverines American football team, an interest that stems from his friendship with former Wolverines coach Lloyd Carr. Carr used Crowe's movie Cinderella Man to motivate his team in 2006 following a disappointing 7-5 season the previous year. Upon hearing of this, Crowe called Carr and invited him to Australia to address his Rugby league team the South Sydney Rabbitohs, an offer Carr took Crowe up on the following summer. In September 2007, after Carr came under fire following the Wolverines' 0-2 start, Crowe travelled to Ann Arbor, Michigan for the Wolverines' 15 September game against Notre Dame to show his support for Carr. He addressed the team before the game and watched from the sidelines as the Wolverines defeated the Irish 38-0.


That's kinda awesome.
 
2014-03-10 08:27:06 AM  
Was it that pussy cancer? Did cancer issue the fatwa?
 
2014-03-10 08:38:10 AM  
Finally, a fatwa I can get behind.
 
2014-03-10 08:50:37 AM  

jocutus: AverageAmericanGuy: I tell you what, I probably won't be entertained by this lousy CG ark.

Funny, because the image you chose shows the portion of the ark that was an actual physically built set:



They built the front & ramp and CG'd the rear (and the water, a bunch of animals I assume).





In any case, I have virtually no excitement about this movie. The studio should have learned a lesson from Bruce Almighty 2, but I don't think ANYONE saw that movie, so how could they remember it?

/ Right
//What's a Cubit?


No, you have it backwards:

They had 2 members of each species of existing animal on set and the rest was CGed.
 
2014-03-10 08:52:33 AM  

jocutus: The studio should have learned a lesson from Bruce Almighty 2, but I don't think ANYONE saw that movie, so how could they remember it?


No one did, for sure.
 
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