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2014-03-09 07:49:11 PM  
I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

i57.tinypic.com

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.
 
2014-03-09 07:58:44 PM  

StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.


Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?
 
2014-03-09 09:26:31 PM  

StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.


Wonder what the founder's dad thinks about that particular fact.

\random fact: before becoming who he is now, said father - whose name shall not be mentioned to avoid the flamewar - was an author of several books on nutrition and homeopathy, and has multiple degrees in the fields of ethnobotany, anthropology, biology and nutritional ethnomedicine.
\\he's pretty interesting, if you can get past what he does for a living
 
2014-03-09 09:31:21 PM  

FriarReb98: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Wonder what the founder's dad thinks about that particular fact.

\random fact: before becoming who he is now, said father - whose name shall not be mentioned to avoid the flamewar - was an author of several books on nutrition and homeopathy, and has multiple degrees in the fields of ethnobotany, anthropology, biology and nutritional ethnomedicine.
\\he's pretty interesting, if you can get past what he does for a living


And the fact that he's a flaming asshole.
 
2014-03-09 10:06:27 PM  

StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.


Are you on a mission to threadshiat everywhere?
 
2014-03-09 10:27:33 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?


Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.
 
2014-03-09 10:29:14 PM  
No mention of association with tobacco?
 
2014-03-09 10:30:21 PM  
i92.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-09 10:30:46 PM  

Splish: Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?

Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.


One of the first rules about mental illness is you don't take away someone's coping mechanism. If energy drinks are their thing, the most dangerous thing you can do is take it away from them. Likewise with cigarettes. Yeah, it's unhealthy for them physically but if it's what helps them get by mentally... eh.
 
2014-03-09 10:31:37 PM  

StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.


You can blame CocaCola for that one I bet. Finding legal ways to get money anyway they can.
 
2014-03-09 10:32:43 PM  
Depressed people give me a sad.
 
2014-03-09 10:34:51 PM  

SpdrJay: Depressed people give me a sad.


You should take a pill for that, let me contact Pfizer for that, they'll give you something that can perk you right up. They even hand out sample packages to the doctors offices, because the first one is always free!
 
2014-03-09 10:35:48 PM  

StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.


It's a beverage, no different from soda (sugar, caffeine, etc). Unless it contains alcohol, it isn't forbidden by EBT.
 
2014-03-09 10:37:02 PM  
Perhaps teenagers who are bored or depressed are likely to try things that promise to lift them out of their ennui, including caffeine in addition to alcohol and other more problematic drugs.
 
2014-03-09 10:37:02 PM  
img.fark.net

For those who need to see the original advertisement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs
 
2014-03-09 10:37:58 PM  

StanTheMan: So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.


As others have recently noted, it is extremely difficult to find that ideal balance between shaming the poor for eating junk food, and shaming the poor for eating healthy food.
 
2014-03-09 10:38:16 PM  

Weatherkiss: Splish: Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?

Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.

One of the first rules about mental illness is you don't take away someone's coping mechanism. If energy drinks are their thing, the most dangerous thing you can do is take it away from them. Likewise with cigarettes. Yeah, it's unhealthy for them physically but if it's what helps them get by mentally... eh.


This. You try to find them better ways of dealing with their problem -- prescribed medications with minimal side effects, for example -- and let them wean themselves off of their previous drug of choice.
 
2014-03-09 10:38:24 PM  

indylaw: Perhaps teenagers who are bored or depressed are likely to try things that promise to lift them out of their ennui, including caffeine in addition to alcohol and other more problematic drugs.


And preposterone.
 
2014-03-09 10:39:31 PM  

StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.


Clicked on "funny" for that....but it's actually pretty sad.

/ we need a "sad" button on FARK
 
2014-03-09 10:39:39 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: SpdrJay: Depressed people give me a sad.

You should take a pill for that, let me contact Pfizer for that, they'll give you something that can perk you right up. They even hand out sample packages to the doctors offices, because the first one is always free!


Here's your marijuana and a vaporizer, bye-bye Pfizer!
 
2014-03-09 10:39:42 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Weatherkiss: Splish: Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?

Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.

One of the first rules about mental illness is you don't take away someone's coping mechanism. If energy drinks are their thing, the most dangerous thing you can do is take it away from them. Likewise with cigarettes. Yeah, it's unhealthy for them physically but if it's what helps them get by mentally... eh.

This. You try to find them better ways of dealing with their problem -- prescribed medications with minimal side effects, for example -- and let them wean themselves off of their previous drug of choice.


Sacrifice the body to save the mind, or sacrifice the mind to save the body.
 
2014-03-09 10:40:03 PM  
My mitochondria disapprove of energy drinks anyway.
 
2014-03-09 10:42:08 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?


I believe this is true.
 
2014-03-09 10:44:30 PM  

FriarReb98: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Wonder what the founder's dad thinks about that particular fact.


Deep down, despite any professed political allegiances, I suspect it's all about the money for "people" like him.

/ he's cool with it
 
2014-03-09 10:45:12 PM  

semiotix: StanTheMan: So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

As others have recently noted, it is extremely difficult to find that ideal balance between shaming the poor for eating junk food, and shaming the poor for eating healthy food.


Yeah, when I see some linking to The Daily Show to make some point, I don't click. Taxpayers shouldn't be paying for this shiat.
 
2014-03-09 10:45:46 PM  

StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.


Where I'm from we do this crazy thing where we just give the welfare and disability recipients a monthly amount to live off of.  If they can spend 90% of it on booze and smokes and somehow stay alive then yay for them.  We don't tell them what they can and can't buy with it.

Some human dignity is nice.
 
2014-03-09 10:49:53 PM  
Teenagers? You can also link their use of cell-phones and bottled water to their depression.
 
2014-03-09 10:50:29 PM  
Researchers at the University of Waterloo recently located strong associations between teenage energy drink consumption and use of drugs and alcohol, as well as problems of depression.

So they found the cool kids.
 
2014-03-09 10:50:30 PM  

StanTheMan: Yeah, when I see some linking to The Daily Show to make some point, I don't click.


Yeah, sorry guy, I was way out of line there. Thank god you caught that before you clicked.
 
2014-03-09 10:52:11 PM  
Being a teenager recently linked to drugs and alcohol, and depression.
 
2014-03-09 10:52:59 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: My mitochondria disapprove of energy drinks anyway.


That's why the force is weak with you.
 
2014-03-09 10:53:43 PM  

Boo_Guy: Where I'm from we do this crazy thing where we just give the welfare and disability recipients a monthly amount to live off of. If they can spend 90% of it on booze and smokes and somehow stay alive then yay for them. We don't tell them what they can and can't buy with it.

Some human dignity is nice.


Are there no prisons, no workhouses?

I mean if we're going to pretend welfare recipients are guilty of doing something wrong, to the point the taxpayers can decide what freedoms they are allowed to have and what freedoms they are not allowed to have, we might as well just cut out the bullshiat charade and send these criminals to prison.
 
2014-03-09 10:53:58 PM  

Weatherkiss: Splish: Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?

Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.

One of the first rules about mental illness is you don't take away someone's coping mechanism. If energy drinks are their thing, the most dangerous thing you can do is take it away from them. Likewise with cigarettes. Yeah, it's unhealthy for them physically but if it's what helps them get by mentally... eh.


Another first rule of mental illness are that stimulants typically exacerbate mental illness, frequently with disastrous results.  The mental effects can be more dangerous than the physical effects.
 
2014-03-09 10:54:05 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?


Coupled with the fact that buckets of sugar imitates the same effect on the brain as cocaine... yeah, I can easily see a downward spiral toward depression. Or if it existed in the first place, just masks it. Either way, a vicious cycle.

If there was a way to profitably market and sell "diet, exercise AND FARKING GODDAMN SLEEP" as a bottled product, we'd solve most of America's medical problems. But that would mean fewer profits for pharmaceuticals, and we can't have that.
 
2014-03-09 10:58:55 PM  

Splish: Weatherkiss: Splish: Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?

Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.

One of the first rules about mental illness is you don't take away someone's coping mechanism. If energy drinks are their thing, the most dangerous thing you can do is take it away from them. Likewise with cigarettes. Yeah, it's unhealthy for them physically but if it's what helps them get by mentally... eh.

Another first rule of mental illness are that stimulants typically exacerbate mental illness, frequently with disastrous results.  The mental effects can be more dangerous than the physical effects.


Going cold turkey is typically not a healthy way to end a physiological or psychological addiction in most mental health patients. They can be weaned off of it in time in the long-term, but in the short-term the harm that comes from it is outweighed by the fact it can placate them during a very delicate time.
 
2014-03-09 11:01:10 PM  
You can have my caffine when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
 
2014-03-09 11:05:29 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?


This.

Chicken, meet egg.  Egg, meet chicken.
 
2014-03-09 11:07:54 PM  

semiotix: StanTheMan: So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

As others have recently noted, it is extremely difficult to find that ideal balance between shaming the poor for eating junk food, and shaming the poor for eating healthy food.


But it's easy to go on FOX News and complain about the poor buying seafood.
 
2014-03-09 11:08:21 PM  

Boo_Guy: Where I'm from we do this crazy thing where we just give the welfare and disability recipients a monthly amount to live off of. If they can spend 90% of it on booze and smokes and somehow stay alive then yay for them. We don't tell them what they can and can't buy with it.


You know, that to be me is a really conservative idea: people know how to manage their money best so. Maybe someone wants to buy an energy drink so they can make it through a crappy shift at a job that pays poverty wages so they don't get fired and lose what little income they have. Maybe someone would rather buy toothpaste and laundry detergent instead of food because they have access to a food bank that doesn't offer those. Maybe someone wants to live off ramen noodles and dumpster diving for a month so they can afford a nice shirt for an interview so maybe they can get a better job. And you know, maybe a small percentage of it is wasted, but whatever, it's their money.

But Republicans constantly biatch and moan about what poor people do with what meager assistance they get so we build up more rules and regulations and bureaucracy to decide for people that they can't get a toothbrush or a whole roast chicken with one of the few forms of assistance still available to most people.
 
2014-03-09 11:08:38 PM  

StanTheMan: So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.


Most energy drinks are full of sugar, so it's like a twofer.
 
2014-03-09 11:10:59 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Republicans constantly biatch and moan


You do this in every thread?
 
2014-03-09 11:11:47 PM  
myaccount.nobleworkscards.com
 
2014-03-09 11:12:46 PM  

Weatherkiss: Splish: Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?

Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.

One of the first rules about mental illness is you don't take away someone's coping mechanism. If energy drinks are their thing, the most dangerous thing you can do is take it away from them. Likewise with cigarettes. Yeah, it's unhealthy for them physically but if it's what helps them get by mentally... eh.


One of the first rules? Funny we never covered that in my psychiatry rotation
 
2014-03-09 11:13:46 PM  
It always amazes me that all th ADD guys on the line seem to constantly have a Monster drink in one hand and an E-Cig in the other.
 
2014-03-09 11:17:29 PM  

StanTheMan: semiotix: StanTheMan: So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

As others have recently noted, it is extremely difficult to find that ideal balance between shaming the poor for eating junk food, and shaming the poor for eating healthy food.

Yeah, when I see some linking to The Daily Show to make some point, I don't click. Taxpayers shouldn't be paying for this shiat.


Good thing he made his point in the text of the post then.
 
2014-03-09 11:19:58 PM  
So a demographic that we already know has increased rates in problem areas also like to drink energy drinks? Holy shiat. Did any of the researchers think to check their oxygen usage as well? This is some award winning science right here, let me tell you.
 
2014-03-09 11:21:11 PM  
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/Oblig.
 
2014-03-09 11:22:08 PM  

Huskadoodle: You do this in every thread?


The last thread I posted in was on gut bacteria, and the one before that on preschooler cognition.
 
2014-03-09 11:24:57 PM  
I thought it was interesting that when they first brought out energy drinks, they were in those dainty little cans, as if to say "Hey, you shouldn't have too much of this! It's unhealthy!"

Now they're in giant fat fark cans, even bigger than cans of regular soft drink.

The kids probably think the regular soft drinks are unhealthier, now.
 
2014-03-09 11:26:20 PM  

CWeinerWV: Weatherkiss: Splish: Benevolent Misanthrope: StanTheMan: I saw this particular taxpayer atrocity at my local grocery store this week:

[i57.tinypic.com image 409x481]

So we give out food stamps for sugary, diabetes- and mental illness-causing energy drinks.

The Roman Empire called and said we're farking up.

Correlation =/= Causality.  Did anyone think that perhaps the kids in the study were self-medicating with energy drinks to counter the effects of existing depression?

Maybe.  They're sure as hell not helping with any sort of mental illness.

One of the first rules about mental illness is you don't take away someone's coping mechanism. If energy drinks are their thing, the most dangerous thing you can do is take it away from them. Likewise with cigarettes. Yeah, it's unhealthy for them physically but if it's what helps them get by mentally... eh.

One of the first rules? Funny we never covered that in my psychiatry rotation


I think you just have to assume that the mentally ill always know what's best for them.  No matter how destructive they're being, don't stop them.  They've got this covered.
 
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