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2014-03-09 08:39:11 PM

thamike: John Thompson, former director of Canadian Studies at North Carolina's Duke University

Really? Nobody's touching this?


Despite his impressive qualifications, I dismissed his opinion the moment he uttered "gringo".
 
2014-03-09 08:40:09 PM
Eh, some Canadians are dicks, some Americans are well behaved, and Canadians are over-proud of their country about as often as Americans are. It's just that Canadians get a pass due to their higher profile neighbors. Americans are easy to hate. Canadians are nationally passive-aggressive.
 
2014-03-09 08:42:20 PM
sorry, don't buy it. Have yet to see anyone more obnoxious than a drunken visiting New York Yankees fan
 
2014-03-09 08:42:53 PM
I think every nation has jack-hole tourists. But I also think that every nation has pleasant and well-meaning tourists.

The article even states that the negative attitudes of Canadians are in places where you're likely to see a lot of Canadians. Well duh. If there a million Canadian tourists that come to your city then you're bound to have a handful of jackasses thrown in the mix.
 
2014-03-09 08:44:17 PM
Hosers
 
2014-03-09 08:47:25 PM
This has always been my go-to paintshoop for threads Canadian...

i253.photobucket.com

 
2014-03-09 08:48:29 PM
rhiannon:

What a load of crap.

Why would I lie about this?  It was one of the most depressing moments of my country.  Do you really think it is not possible?  Have you not heard the things said about Indians in Pakistan, or Jews in Nazi Germany?  What exactly is difficult for you to believe?

I was just trying to apologize for my country, to show you how truly ignorant the common conversation can be.  But I guess ignorance runs both ways.
 
2014-03-09 08:49:51 PM

FizixJunkee: thamike: John Thompson, former director of Canadian Studies at North Carolina's Duke University

Really? Nobody's touching this?


Canadian Studies suck, eh?


Well no, not inherently, but you see, Americans have an unfortunate tendency to just not take y'all (given the "eh", I'm assuming you're Canadian) seriously. So, that sentiment would extrapolate to the feeling that Canadian studies are not a valid subject of research. It would be like dedicating ones life to organic pottery or sustainable dowsing.
 
2014-03-09 08:49:53 PM
SirMadness:

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"It... it can't be.  People... hating America?  I can understand Arabs wanting us to die... but white people?  No way.  I'm calling bullshiat."
 
2014-03-09 08:51:01 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: MrKevvy: Benevolent Misanthrope: We don't do milk in bags any more.  I was really disappointed by that when I moved here. :(

That's how I buy mine...I'm in Psychomayorton Toronto.

Well that sucks.  Here in Northern Alberta, it's cartons and jugs.  No bags anywhere - and I looked.  Just for the novelty value.


Oddly enough, I did see a whole shelf of milk bag pitchers at a Canadian Tire in Calgary.
 
2014-03-09 08:51:04 PM

Gunny Highway: real_headhoncho: Are you sure those are not Americans pretending to be Canadians when they travel?

I noticed Brisitish people asking me if I was Canadian the few times I was over there.  I have no idea why but I assume Canadians probably get offended if you ask if they are Americans, and the opposite isnt true, so they play it safe and ask everyone if they are Canadian.

/Germans were the worst group we came across.


Germans in Germany are very nice and polite. Germans on vacation outside of Germany are the biggest assholes. I've seen this many times.
 
2014-03-09 08:55:25 PM

thamike: John Thompson, former director of Canadian Studies at North Carolina's Duke University

Really? Nobody's touching this?


Popular classes.....Everybody gets an "eh".
 
2014-03-09 08:57:14 PM
Snerk. Go stand in the departure customs queue at Atatürk and get back to me about how horrible Canadians are.
 
2014-03-09 08:58:09 PM

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Just in case the locals mistook them for Americans, Brits or Australians, the small group was "covered in maple leafs."

Canadians -- do you guys always use the term "leafs" instead of "leaves" when referring to multiples of your country's symbol? Because I really want to imagine a group of people walking around covered in Toronto hockey players.


No. But there's a few hockey players I wouldn't mind being covered in, if you know what I mean and I think you do.
 
2014-03-09 09:00:22 PM

hamiltonjdavid: Snerk. Go stand in the departure customs queue at Atatürk and get back to me about how horrible Canadians are.


Only if you go stand in line at a port-a-potty on a Slovenian construction site.
 
2014-03-09 09:02:04 PM

Asplenium: Benevolent Misanthrope: MrKevvy: Benevolent Misanthrope: We don't do milk in bags any more.  I was really disappointed by that when I moved here. :(

That's how I buy mine...I'm in Psychomayorton Toronto.

Well that sucks.  Here in Northern Alberta, it's cartons and jugs.  No bags anywhere - and I looked.  Just for the novelty value.

Oddly enough, I did see a whole shelf of milk bag pitchers at a Canadian Tire in Calgary.


There may well be a shelf of them here.  I wouldn't know one if it bit me.
 
2014-03-09 09:04:31 PM
"The damned 3rd division has now been inflicted on us," reads a 1941 letter from a woman in Surrey, describing the arrival of the Canadian infantry division that would eventually go on to capture Juno Beach.
On Christmas Eve, 1941, the Canadians, she reported, "were rolling along in the middle of the road till all hours yelling at the top of their voices, the dead drunk being dragged along by the not so drunk."


It was war.  Who farking cares how drunk they were?  They were going off to die to save your uptight British ass from Gerry you stupid coont.
 
2014-03-09 09:04:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that when Canadian males under age 30 go to Mexico and the Caribbean, they treat it like one big frat party. You go to get drunk and laid. I'm not excusing the behaviour just explaining it.

Also, as a Canadian I have never worn a Canadian flag when traveling. Ever. Who needs to know that?
 
2014-03-09 09:10:24 PM
But how hot are their women?
 
2014-03-09 09:11:08 PM
I've seen it said before that Canadians are bad tippers,  the only ways I can offer an explanation on that is;
1) We pay everyone here pretty well,  servers and waitstaff are up to 6 or 7-some dollars an hour plus tips in Ontario,  regular minimum is at least 11-something an hour last time I looked.

And 2)  People here don't expect tips all over the place for doing their jobs,  might have to do with number 1).  Maybe some forget that other places don't pay as well when they're outside Canada.

As for the other things,  drunkest,  yea I could see that,  most arrogant,  maybe if they're Quebecors.

/sorry eh
 
2014-03-09 09:14:00 PM
Bedstead Polisher:

Also, as a Canadian I have never worn a Canadian flag when traveling. Ever. Who needs to know that?

The French.
 
2014-03-09 09:15:55 PM

Boo_Guy: I've seen it said before that Canadians are bad tippers,  the only ways I can offer an explanation on that is;
1) We pay everyone here pretty well,  servers and waitstaff are up to 6 or 7-some dollars an hour plus tips in Ontario,  regular minimum is at least 11-something an hour last time I looked.

And 2)  People here don't expect tips all over the place for doing their jobs,  might have to do with number 1).  Maybe some forget that other places don't pay as well when they're outside Canada.

As for the other things,  drunkest,  yea I could see that,  most arrogant,  maybe if they're Quebecors.

/sorry eh


In Canada, we give tips as  tips, as a reward for exemplary service, not as a mandatory surcharge.  The downside is that waiters get pissed.  The upside is that your average Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons store clerk is more likely to get tipped for making you laugh or carrying stuff to your car.
 
2014-03-09 09:16:13 PM
Sorry.
 
2014-03-09 09:16:23 PM

moeburn: Bedstead Polisher:

Also, as a Canadian I have never worn a Canadian flag when traveling. Ever. Who needs to know that?

The French.


I was mistaken for an Australian in Paris when I forgot to greet a shopkeeper before requesting something. :(
 
2014-03-09 09:17:16 PM
cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2014-03-09 09:19:43 PM

moeburn: MurphyMurphy: They are angry.

Because they have no self identity. Canadians do not get to just 'be Canadian'. Everything they are is constantly compared to Americans.

So their identity becomes that of "well.... we aren't Americans.." followed by whatever half-baked theory they have about what makes them better than and separate from the Americans.

Basically, it boils down to "Marsha, Marsha Marsha!"

You don't even understand the half of the hatred towards America that exists in Canada.

The day after the September 11th attacks, everywhere people were saying like "fark those Americans" and "they deserved to die" and "that's what they get for being American".  Everyone, whether they were white rich people or poor minorities, truly jumped for joy after 9/11.  They just stopped short of burning flags in the streets.


No one around me was saying things like that,  maybe you're just surrounded by bigoted assholes.

That attack killed Canadians as well as Americans, it was a shiatty day for a LOT of people.
I'm happy that we helped out as much as we could that day and got a warm fuzzy when ol Georgie thanked his neighbors to the north. =)
 
2014-03-09 09:20:02 PM
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2014-03-09 09:21:46 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: MrKevvy: Benevolent Misanthrope: We don't do milk in bags any more.  I was really disappointed by that when I moved here. :(

That's how I buy mine...I'm in Psychomayorton Toronto.

Well that sucks.  Here in Northern Alberta, it's cartons and jugs.  No bags anywhere - and I looked.  Just for the novelty value.


Yea milk in bags is more an eastern thing starting from ontario as far as I know.
 
2014-03-09 09:22:34 PM
Boo_Guy:

No one around me was saying things like that,  maybe you're just surrounded by bigoted assholes.

didsay I live in Toronto.

That attack killed Canadians as well as Americans, it was a shiatty day for a LOT of people.

Yes, and that was my Weeners when they said things like that.  To which they responded with something along the lines of "canadians being caught in the crossfire intended for dirty Americans" or something along those lines...
 
2014-03-09 09:22:51 PM
assets.nydailynews.com
 
2014-03-09 09:23:12 PM
Today marks my first Weeners.  Go me.
 
2014-03-09 09:23:47 PM

moeburn: Boo_Guy: I've seen it said before that Canadians are bad tippers,  the only ways I can offer an explanation on that is;
1) We pay everyone here pretty well,  servers and waitstaff are up to 6 or 7-some dollars an hour plus tips in Ontario,  regular minimum is at least 11-something an hour last time I looked.

And 2)  People here don't expect tips all over the place for doing their jobs,  might have to do with number 1).  Maybe some forget that other places don't pay as well when they're outside Canada.

As for the other things,  drunkest,  yea I could see that,  most arrogant,  maybe if they're Quebecors.

/sorry eh

In Canada, we give tips as  tips, as a reward for exemplary service, not as a mandatory surcharge.  The downside is that waiters get pissed.  The upside is that your average Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons store clerk is more likely to get tipped for making you laugh or carrying stuff to your car.


I dont tip every time I go to Dunkin Donuts for the record.
 
2014-03-09 09:27:16 PM
I don't want to be a Canadian Idiot.
 
2014-03-09 09:28:09 PM

brap: The drunkenness and cultural insensitivity I can deal with, but openly purchasing our cheese in bulk?


But I was assured in a previous thread about cheese that no non-American ever wants any cheese made in the USA.
 
2014-03-09 09:28:24 PM
Gunny Highway:

I dont tip every time I go to Dunkin Donuts for the record.


I... never said you did...?
 
2014-03-09 09:28:27 PM

moeburn: rhiannon:

What a load of crap.

Why would I lie about this?  It was one of the most depressing moments of my country.  Do you really think it is not possible?  Have you not heard the things said about Indians in Pakistan, or Jews in Nazi Germany?  What exactly is difficult for you to believe?

I was just trying to apologize for my country, to show you how truly ignorant the common conversation can be.  But I guess ignorance runs both ways.


Maybe because it seems a little far fetched given the general Canadian reaction to 9-11? I'm from the east coast and Newfoundland alone welcomed thousands of flight loads of (mostly) American travellers into their homes on 9/11. I stood in a dorm common room with tons of people absolutely horrified. Profs and students all over where shocked, NO one said anything, ever, about Americans deserving it. There were 9/11 memorial services in many places in Canada afterwards, and on the one year anniversary.

In fact, in all of the years since I have only heard one person, in person, saying that the Americans deserved it, and I wanted to punch the guy in the mouth for it.
 
2014-03-09 09:28:52 PM

Starshines: Benevolent Misanthrope: Not even close, subs.  Let's face it - our state department doesn't have to tell us to pretend to be another nationality when we travel abroad.

When I was in Amsterdam I made sure to talk a lot so people could hear my American accent and know I wasn't English.  They farking hate the English there, way more than I've ever seen hate for Americans anywhere else.


Given that the English and the Dutch were competing commercial empires for centuries and considering the many wars between the two, that wouldn't surprise me. Outside of the Native Americans, the Dutch were the greatest threat to colonial Virginia.
 
2014-03-09 09:29:41 PM

moeburn: Gunny Highway:

I dont tip every time I go to Dunkin Donuts for the record.


I... never said you did...?


I know.  You were talking about tipping someone at Tim Hortons for exemplary work.  That is why I would tip a DD employee too.
 
2014-03-09 09:30:05 PM

moeburn: Boo_Guy: I've seen it said before that Canadians are bad tippers,  the only ways I can offer an explanation on that is;
1) We pay everyone here pretty well,  servers and waitstaff are up to 6 or 7-some dollars an hour plus tips in Ontario,  regular minimum is at least 11-something an hour last time I looked.

And 2)  People here don't expect tips all over the place for doing their jobs,  might have to do with number 1).  Maybe some forget that other places don't pay as well when they're outside Canada.

As for the other things,  drunkest,  yea I could see that,  most arrogant,  maybe if they're Quebecors.

/sorry eh

In Canada, we give tips as  tips, as a reward for exemplary service, not as a mandatory surcharge.  The downside is that waiters get pissed.  The upside is that your average Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons store clerk is more likely to get tipped for making you laugh or carrying stuff to your car.


I've never had bad service,  mediocre perhaps,  but it would have to be outright crap that was the actual fault of the waitress/waiter before I gave no tip at all.

My going rate starts at 15% and goes down to 10% at worst,  and as high as I they deserve.

/Cue the "15% is a shiatty tip" responses.
 
2014-03-09 09:31:49 PM

hardinparamedic: gopher321: Worst tipping? That I can believe. Arrogant? Drunkest? Most obnoxious? Please do not confuse us with Americans, Russians or the British (footballers).

Oh look, another Canadian Supremacist. Come to rub your milk bags in our faces?/Oh, regarde, un autre pour la suprématie canadienne. Venez vous frotter les sacs de lait dans nos visages?

In accordance with Canadian law I have posted this in both French and English.


...please?
 
2014-03-09 09:33:10 PM
I've been there more than a few times.  Some poor took head gets out of Canada and the result is a lot like Rumspringa.  My advice:  Don't stop them, go with them.  The spirits will flow like water and they're still Canadian so they just can't get that obnoxious.
 
2014-03-09 09:33:53 PM

Gunny Highway: moeburn: Boo_Guy: I've seen it said before that Canadians are bad tippers,  the only ways I can offer an explanation on that is;
1) We pay everyone here pretty well,  servers and waitstaff are up to 6 or 7-some dollars an hour plus tips in Ontario,  regular minimum is at least 11-something an hour last time I looked.

And 2)  People here don't expect tips all over the place for doing their jobs,  might have to do with number 1).  Maybe some forget that other places don't pay as well when they're outside Canada.

As for the other things,  drunkest,  yea I could see that,  most arrogant,  maybe if they're Quebecors.

/sorry eh

In Canada, we give tips as  tips, as a reward for exemplary service, not as a mandatory surcharge.  The downside is that waiters get pissed.  The upside is that your average Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons store clerk is more likely to get tipped for making you laugh or carrying stuff to your car.

I dont tip every time I go to Dunkin Donuts for the record.


I've never tipped at a coffee place either.

/never been to starbucks
 
2014-03-09 09:34:03 PM
All I know is this (barely) CSB:

I was in Toronto and ordered a Jack Daniels on the rocks.  The bartender said "Hunh...the only people who order that are Yanks".  I said I was from Milwaukee.

/We laughed
//I tipped well..company expense account and all.
//Of course I had four Bloody Caesars, too, since I was going to Montreal a lot back then, too, and started liking them.
 
2014-03-09 09:34:28 PM
entropic_existence:
Maybe because it seems a little far fetched given the general Canadian reaction to 9-11? I'm from the east coast and Newfoundland alone welcomed thousands of flight loads of (mostly) American travellers into their homes on 9/11. I stood in a dorm common room with tons of people absolutely horrified. Profs and students all over where shocked, NO one said anything, ever, about Americans deserving it. There were 9/11 memorial services in many places in Canada afterwards, and on the one year anniversary.

In fact, in all of the years since I have only heard one person, in person, saying that the Americans deserved it, and I wanted to punch the guy in the mouth for it.


Have you never been to Toronto?  It's like New York, only people hate each other more.  I've been to Newfoundland, and I have to say the people in the east coast are among the politest in this country.
 
2014-03-09 09:35:46 PM

moeburn: rhiannon:

What a load of crap.

Why would I lie about this?  It was one of the most depressing moments of my country.  Do you really think it is not possible?  Have you not heard the things said about Indians in Pakistan, or Jews in Nazi Germany?  What exactly is difficult for you to believe?

I was just trying to apologize for my country, to show you how truly ignorant the common conversation can be.  But I guess ignorance runs both ways.


You don't need to apologize for the country, there's no need to. If anything, just apologize for the people you hang around with.
 
2014-03-09 09:40:03 PM

fickenchucker: All I know is this (barely) CSB:

I was in Toronto and ordered a Jack Daniels on the rocks.  The bartender said "Hunh...the only people who order that are Yanks".  I said I was from Milwaukee.

/We laughed
//I tipped well..company expense account and all.
//Of course I had four Bloody Caesars, too, since I was going to Montreal a lot back then, too, and started liking them.


Get Canadian Club(CC) or Crow Royal if you want to be incognito. =)

/Seems popular here
//Doesn't really drink whiskey.
 
2014-03-09 09:41:56 PM
rhiannon:

You don't need to apologize for the country, there's no need to. If anything, just apologize for the people you hang around with.

Who said these were the people I hang around with?

Thankfully, the people I hung around with were not the people I am talking about.  I am talking about the things I heard people saying as I walked through the hallways (I was in highschool at the time), and the things a few of my teachers said.  Most of the students just didn't care one way or the other, it could have been a bombing in the middle east for all they cared.  A few kids got visibly excited at the chance to run around telling everyone what had happened.  But the ones that were the most vocal, the only ones that I could hear, were the ones smiling and laughing and joking about it.  I wish cell-phone cameras were popular back then, because I would have gotten some video as proof.  It was truly disgusting.
 
2014-03-09 09:43:22 PM
But I feel I should rephrase, I am not apologizing for all of Canada, as this is not representative of all of Canada.  Toronto is an oasis of hate in a desert of politeness.
 
2014-03-09 09:46:06 PM
I understand Germans are obnoxious at resorts. Something to do with claiming pool side lounges by putting towels down before breakfast. They might be able to cow europeans, but Americans are used to taking over previously claimed territory that appears abandoned.
 
2014-03-09 09:46:10 PM

moeburn: rhiannon:

You don't need to apologize for the country, there's no need to. If anything, just apologize for the people you hang around with.

Who said these were the people I hang around with?

Thankfully, the people I hung around with were not the people I am talking about.  I am talking about the things I heard people saying as I walked through the hallways (I was in highschool at the time), and the things a few of my teachers said.  Most of the students just didn't care one way or the other, it could have been a bombing in the middle east for all they cared.  A few kids got visibly excited at the chance to run around telling everyone what had happened.  But the ones that were the most vocal, the only ones that I could hear, were the ones smiling and laughing and joking about it.  I wish cell-phone cameras were popular back then, because I would have gotten some video as proof.  It was truly disgusting.


You've made a hell of a jump from your original comment to saying it was just teenagers.
 
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