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(NJ.com)   Convict: "I murdered my parents 30 years ago, but my paranoid schizophrenia is all better now, you can let me out". The mugshot pic disagrees   (nj.com) divider line 93
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2014-03-09 06:09:45 PM  
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Uh-huh.
 
2014-03-09 06:40:34 PM  
At 23, the Ho-Ho-Kus native killed his stepfather, 74-year-old Ralph Hamilton, with a hammer. Two days later he strangled his mother, Jeanne Hamilton, with twine.

Curious about the logistics of that. What was mom doing for two days that she didn't notice her husband was dead?
 
2014-03-09 06:51:15 PM  

fusillade762: the Ho-Ho-Kus native


Wait. There's actually a town in New Jersey by that name?
 
2014-03-09 06:52:25 PM  
This is the End, his only friend, the End.
 
2014-03-09 06:53:11 PM  
yep
used to live there
always waited for the rt17 exit sign to get an extra ho for christmas


/it was not me!!!
 
2014-03-09 06:53:22 PM  
Prison isn't easy. If he's been nonviolent for say, 5 years, maybe they should give him a chance.
 
2014-03-09 06:54:06 PM  
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2014-03-09 06:56:12 PM  
It could well be that the anti-psychotics have worked, his schizophrenia is under control, and he is no longer having command hallucinations. I can easily believe this is true.

That said, the guy has been in prison for 30 years where there has been someone making sure he takes those meds, goes to his therapy sessions, and leads a controlled, monitored life. I have serious doubts that he can lead such a life if he's kicked loose, especially since his family obviously doesn't want to help him do it. Wouldn't a hospital or group home be a better place for him if his attorneys want him to keep getting better?
 
2014-03-09 06:56:17 PM  
Thirty years for two murders as a result of a mental illness he is receiving treatment for? Why would he not be released?
 
2014-03-09 07:00:09 PM  
Blessed... disciples of Hippocrates. My heart is torn in two. It aches with guilt from my abominable crimes, yet it is filled with love for this... sanctuary, this place of healing, and it sings with Beethoven's immortal "Ode To Joy" where all men... become... brothers!
 
2014-03-09 07:00:39 PM  

Vangor: Thirty years for two murders as a result of a mental illness he is receiving treatment for? Why would he not be released?


Not sure if serious...
 
2014-03-09 07:01:10 PM  
I think he deserves the chance to show he is a changed person.     I'm sure your neighborhood won't even notice this guy.
 
2014-03-09 07:01:17 PM  
Manson can give him a piggyback ride on his way out.
 
2014-03-09 07:01:28 PM  
As someone with multiple mental illnesses, I have asked my psychiatrist to put me away if he ever even thinks I could be remotely dangerous to other people.

But then again, I live in a country that has mental health services, and doesn't just throw nutcases into general population to toss salads for the rest of their days.
 
2014-03-09 07:01:35 PM  
Texaverythefirstbadman.jpg "when y'all gonna let me out"
 
2014-03-09 07:04:33 PM  

Vangor: Thirty years for two murders as a result of a mental illness he is receiving treatment for? Why would he not be released?


Ask Dr. Loomis
 
2014-03-09 07:06:53 PM  
Yep - still got that wide-eyed crazy look... Can't release him...
 
2014-03-09 07:06:58 PM  

netcentric: I think he deserves the chance to show he is a changed person.     I'm sure your neighborhood won't even notice this guy.


"He was a quiet person. Kept to himself, mostly."
 
2014-03-09 07:08:39 PM  
His chance of recidivism is zero.  If they let him out, he won't kill his parents again.
 
2014-03-09 07:09:47 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Wouldn't a hospital or group home be a better place for him if his attorneys want him to keep getting better?


If he's been a model prisoner for 30 years, why not give him a shot in a psyche ward for 5 or 10 years? It couldn't be worse than prison.
 
2014-03-09 07:12:30 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Yep - still got that wide-eyed crazy look... Can't release him...


You do know that is an old picture.

/i hope you do
 
2014-03-09 07:12:35 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Yep - still got that wide-eyed crazy look... Can't release him...


This is simply what a person looks like when they are thinking "Do I look crazy? Would hate to look crazy now of all times. I am just gonna chill and be all normal and not the slightest bit alarming..."

*concentrates on looking normal*
 
2014-03-09 07:16:41 PM  
If they're not monitored and forced to take their medication, this kind of patient stops taking the pills, because they don't believe they need to take them any more. And then some more innocent people end up dead, and the worthless morons on the parole board who let him out somehow get to keep their jobs.
 
2014-03-09 07:24:01 PM  
www.bite.ca
 
2014-03-09 07:24:32 PM  

WTFDYW: OOBE Juan Kenobi: Yep - still got that wide-eyed crazy look... Can't release him...

You do know that is an old picture.

/i hope you do


He was about 25 when he went to prison...the pic in TFA is the current entry in the NJ department of corrections online record for this guy.

If Jersey is like Ohio, the inmate pix posted on the state corrections site are updated frequently.  It certainly isn't a photo of a 25 year old.
 
2014-03-09 07:24:42 PM  
As long as he's found the Lord, he's OK.
 
2014-03-09 07:27:52 PM  
i1280.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-09 07:28:03 PM  

Gyrfalcon: That said, the guy has been in prison for 30 years where there has been someone making sure he takes those meds, goes to his therapy sessions, and leads a controlled, monitored life. I have serious doubts that he can lead such a life if he's kicked loose, especially since his family obviously doesn't want to help him do it. Wouldn't a hospital or group home be a better place for him if his attorneys want him to keep getting better?


There are group homes for mentally ill people where they make sure you take your meds, are checked in by a curfew, and have staff onsite to monitor you. There are options between involuntary confinement (prison, psych ward) and letting him go unsupervised, if the people in charge feel it's appropriate in his case.
 
2014-03-09 07:34:40 PM  
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2014-03-09 07:39:17 PM  
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Broke into the wrong goddamn rec room, didn't ya you bastard!
 
2014-03-09 07:41:04 PM  
If he were a pretty white girl, he'd be out of incarceration already.
 
2014-03-09 07:42:22 PM  

fusillade762: At 23, the Ho-Ho-Kus native killed his stepfather, 74-year-old Ralph Hamilton, with a hammer. Two days later he strangled his mother, Jeanne Hamilton, with twine.

Curious about the logistics of that. What was mom doing for two days that she didn't notice her husband was dead?


What a dumb question.  She was chained to the radiator of course.
 
2014-03-09 07:42:35 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Gyrfalcon: That said, the guy has been in prison for 30 years where there has been someone making sure he takes those meds, goes to his therapy sessions, and leads a controlled, monitored life. I have serious doubts that he can lead such a life if he's kicked loose, especially since his family obviously doesn't want to help him do it. Wouldn't a hospital or group home be a better place for him if his attorneys want him to keep getting better?

There are group homes for mentally ill people where they make sure you take your meds, are checked in by a curfew, and have staff onsite to monitor you. There are options between involuntary confinement (prison, psych ward) and letting him go unsupervised, if the people in charge feel it's appropriate in his case.


.....Isn't that what I just said?
 
2014-03-09 07:44:45 PM  
People actually think this loon should be released? Good god you people are thick.
 
2014-03-09 07:50:08 PM  
And do what?

Not listen to the voices in his head?

I mean really, what does the outside world offer this person?

They would just be letting him out so he can see his life ended when his parent's lives ended.
 
2014-03-09 07:51:20 PM  
It would be a horrible miscarriage of justice to keep this poor man locked up like an animal. He is healed, rehabilitated, and has job training.

Screw him anyway.
 
2014-03-09 07:53:45 PM  

John Buck 41: fusillade762: the Ho-Ho-Kus native

Wait. There's actually a town in New Jersey by that name?


Yup, and it's full of rich people.
 
2014-03-09 07:54:55 PM  
Now I have a steak knife. Ho ho kus
 
2014-03-09 07:58:11 PM  

John Buck 41: fusillade762: the Ho-Ho-Kus native

Wait. There's actually a town in New Jersey by that name?


We also have a Buttzville, yes pronounced butts-ville
 
2014-03-09 08:00:26 PM  
I wasn't aware mugshots were a valid psychiatric diagnostic tool.
 
2014-03-09 08:02:27 PM  
Hey, look! It's Dickey Spillane!  I love his writing!!

/Wut?   Mickey you say?
 
2014-03-09 08:04:03 PM  

zzrhardy: As someone with multiple mental illnesses, I have asked my psychiatrist to put me away if he ever even thinks I could be remotely dangerous to other people.

But then again, I live in a country that has mental health services, and doesn't just throw nutcases into general population to toss salads for the rest of their days.


A country with actual mental health services! Good lord, which country is that?

Also, the second this guy goes off his meds some poor innocent person is likely to die, and for some reason schizophrenics seem to really hate being on on their meds. I'd would be different if they were more like depressives where you'd be hard pressed prying their meds from their cold dead hands.
 
2014-03-09 08:06:39 PM  

John Buck 41: fusillade762: the Ho-Ho-Kus native

Wait. There's actually a town in New Jersey by that name?


They've always regretted allowing Mel Tillis to name the town.
 
2014-03-09 08:08:47 PM  

mutterfark: John Buck 41: fusillade762: the Ho-Ho-Kus native

Wait. There's actually a town in New Jersey by that name?

They've always regretted allowing Mel Tillis to name the town.


That was bad and you should feel b-b-b-b-ad.
 
2014-03-09 08:09:20 PM  

KaiserRoll: I wasn't aware mugshots were a valid psychiatric diagnostic tool.


Oddly enough, fark's she's got crazy eyesTM diagnostics has been used for years now and has actually been pretty accurate. It's possible there is something in it despite how unscientific it looks. Someone should study it.
 
2014-03-09 08:11:08 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Gyrfalcon: That said, the guy has been in prison for 30 years where there has been someone making sure he takes those meds, goes to his therapy sessions, and leads a controlled, monitored life. I have serious doubts that he can lead such a life if he's kicked loose, especially since his family obviously doesn't want to help him do it. Wouldn't a hospital or group home be a better place for him if his attorneys want him to keep getting better?

There are group homes for mentally ill people where they make sure you take your meds, are checked in by a curfew, and have staff onsite to monitor you. There are options between involuntary confinement (prison, psych ward) and letting him go unsupervised, if the people in charge feel it's appropriate in his case.

.....Isn't that what I just said?


No. It's what you querried.

See, when you bend a bang it becomes interrogative.

! Bang
? Interrogative

And from this we get the Interobang ?!
 
2014-03-09 08:11:45 PM  

not2bright: Broke into the wrong goddamn rec room, didn't ya you bastard!


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2014-03-09 08:14:28 PM  

dantheman195: John Buck 41: fusillade762: the Ho-Ho-Kus native

Wait. There's actually a town in New Jersey by that name?

We also have a Buttzville, yes pronounced butts-ville


Should make that the capitol.  It would be easier to remember for all school kids.  Come on, it isn't like NJ is already the butt of jokes.
 
2014-03-09 08:20:50 PM  
It sounds all well and good to let these types of people out into those halfway homes, unless you have one a block away from you like I do. One nutcase kicked in my neighbors door in the middle of the day and started yelling and punching things until his father tackled the dude. Sounds like it's not a big deal, unless you're a kid and this happens in front of you in the house you felt safe in. One other guy camped out at the bus stop across the street and talked to the little kids, no crime there, but he was a convicted sex offender mind you. And one day, when I would normally have been at school, I looked out the window and saw a guy humping my dog and trying to drag her away.

/when I threw the window open and yelled at him he said: "She likes me man!"
//I chased the guy to the very house in question so I know that's where he came from
 
2014-03-09 08:21:20 PM  

John Buck 41: fusillade762: the Ho-Ho-Kus native

Wait. There's actually a town in New Jersey by that name?


there is also a town called Mahwah
 
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