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2014-03-09 05:10:42 PM
#1 drives people nuts around here.  I get annoyed trying to get people to respond to emails, but the old folks go ballistic when people won't answer their phones.
 
2014-03-09 05:14:56 PM
Did that article make sense to anyone? I think the paragraphs were composed of strings of random sentences
 
2014-03-09 05:15:25 PM
Pronouns?
 
2014-03-09 05:16:09 PM
The comments in the article are precious and unique.
 
2014-03-09 05:16:34 PM
Is it necessary to tick all the boxes to be considered a young person ?
I tick all of them except #5.

/born in 1960
 
2014-03-09 05:17:07 PM
Yes it was intentional.
 
2014-03-09 05:17:12 PM

nucal: Did that article make sense to anyone? I think the paragraphs were composed of strings of random sentences


That's the first sign of a stroke
 
2014-03-09 05:21:01 PM
I love text messages because they're kept in recent memory on my phone. For instance, my roommate can text me a shopping list. There is slim to no chance of miscommunication.

And on switching jobs- that's to keep the résumé going strong. Unlike boomers who got laid off and can't find a job because you didn't diversify your skill set. You mad, boomers?
 
2014-03-09 05:21:02 PM
No onions on their belts, which was the style of our time.
 
2014-03-09 05:24:00 PM

capt.hollister: /born in 1960


You're in the statistical boom, but not quite as much in the cultural boom.  Your parents could have easily been too young to fight in WWII and you were still in elementary school during the cultural milestones associated with the generation like Vietnam and Woodstock etc.
 
2014-03-09 05:25:27 PM
That article can be summed up with "stop liking what olds don't like".
 
2014-03-09 05:27:13 PM
Things millennials don't get about Boomers:

1.) Enormous debt
2.) Terrible pollution
3.) A legacy of entitlement thinking and corruption
4.) Why they've made it so that they're the last generation that had it better than the previous generation
5.) Why they've sold America's future for short-term gains
 
2014-03-09 05:27:30 PM
Gen X here, and I completely understand not using cash. Not only are cards more convenient, but I also don't have to worry about not having enough cash in my wallet for any large purchase I might unexpectedly have to make. It allows for some spontaneity, and doesn't leave me empty handed when out of cash and not near an ATM.
 
2014-03-09 05:29:59 PM
Old people worry about the dumbest things.
 
2014-03-09 05:30:52 PM
"We like the idea of binging"

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2014-03-09 05:32:55 PM
Maybe if you assholes hadn't broken the economy and sold us on a a dream of wealth that we can't reasonably achieve we wouldn't have to switch jobs so often. Pricks.
 
2014-03-09 05:33:02 PM

Dadoody: Things millennials don't get about Boomers:

1.) Enormous debt
2.) Terrible pollution
3.) A legacy of entitlement thinking and corruption
4.) Why they've made it so that they're the last generation that had it better than the previous generation
5.) Why they've sold America's future for short-term gains


Millenials. The ultimate whiny little biatches.
 
2014-03-09 05:34:13 PM

Egoy3k: Maybe if you assholes hadn't broken the economy and sold us on a a dream of wealth that we can't reasonably achieve we wouldn't have to switch jobs so often. Pricks.


You should have voted.
 
2014-03-09 05:37:01 PM

Egoy3k: Maybe if you assholes hadn't broken the economy and sold us on a a dream of wealth that we can't reasonably achieve we wouldn't have to switch jobs so often. Pricks.


Like I said in another thread, don't say "Don't hate the player, hate the game" and then lose your shiat when they hate the game.
 
2014-03-09 05:38:40 PM

ghare: Egoy3k: Maybe if you assholes hadn't broken the economy and sold us on a a dream of wealth that we can't reasonably achieve we wouldn't have to switch jobs so often. Pricks.

You should have voted.


I vote in every single election farkwit.  My demographic is outnumbered by the 'fark you I got mine' contingent in my country and province.
 
2014-03-09 05:38:45 PM
Seeing a table of four girls when all four have their phones out texting does bug the shiat out of me.

/lawn, off
 
2014-03-09 05:42:04 PM
7) Why headlines need numbers.
 
2014-03-09 05:42:13 PM

cyberspacedout: Gen X here, and I completely understand not using cash. Not only are cards more convenient, but I also don't have to worry about not having enough cash in my wallet for any large purchase I might unexpectedly have to make. It allows for some spontaneity, and doesn't leave me empty handed when out of cash and not near an ATM.


And it is one of the reasons why so many people are in debt.  Numerous studies have shown that there is sense of loss when you use physical cash, much so that you spend less when you have cash versus a credit card.

I am trying to switch over to primarily cash spending for this reason alone.  I will keep a credit card on me, but I usually keep it in my vehicle for emergencies only.  Everything else is cash.  If I don't have the cash for it, I don't need it.  Keeps me focused on my spending.

/32
 
2014-03-09 05:44:09 PM
I don't even bother checking the messages on my desk phone at work.

I'll respond to email, but if you call my cell phone it had better be a goddamn emergency.
 
2014-03-09 05:45:13 PM
1) Why young people don't use phones for conversation.
'Smart'phones are multifaceted,  internet enabled communication devices these days,  not just a magic talkie box.

Besides some things are easier and quicker to send instead of calling and having a 10 minute convo about the weather first.


2) Why young people switch jobs so often.
Because if you want a goddamn raise in this day and age you have to hop to a better paying job to get it.

What started this originally I think was company loyalty to employees went in the crapper and we know that so when something better comes along you go for it.  If company A doesn't want me going to company B then company A better make a stronger offer to keep me.


3) Why young people don't use cash.
I can lose or be robbed of my cash,  the same can't be said about my debit card,  and my credit card I'm not responsible for fraudulent use.

4) Young people changed how we watch TV, but doesn't binge-watching make office Spoiler Alerts more necessary?
I can avoid most of this,  I can put my fingers in my ears, yell "LALALALA"  and run away if really important details are being talked about.  Hearing of minor things won't ruin it,  hell hearing major details won't really ruin it for me either,  I still get to watch it happen.

5) Dressing for success seems to mean dressing for Fashion Week.
I'm peacocking leave me alone mom!
 
2014-03-09 05:46:59 PM
Executives also like to complain that younger workers have no job loyalty. Yes, that's right - workers have no job loyalty, and it's because corporations killed it. Back in the '80s when they started valuing quarterly profits over employee retention, they started the process. Reap what you sow, you greedy farks.

Your employer can let you go anytime they want for any reason, including because last quarter's numbers mean the CEO can only buy two diamond-encrusted solid gold backscratchers instead of four, so you owe them nothing in terms of loyalty.
 
2014-03-09 05:47:59 PM

Mentat: #1 drives people nuts around here.  I get annoyed trying to get people to respond to emails, but the old folks go ballistic when people won't answer their phones.


At work, emails have always been the way to communicate when you don't need an immediate response.

So I follow that outside of work as well,  if I want a quick response then its some kind of IM, text, or call.

Not everyone seems to get that,  most do,  but not all.
 
2014-03-09 05:54:50 PM
That was easily the dumbest thing I've read this week.
 
2014-03-09 05:58:37 PM

ImpendingCynic: Executives also like to complain that younger workers have no job loyalty. Yes, that's right - workers have no job loyalty, and it's because corporations killed it. Back in the '80s when they started valuing quarterly profits over employee retention, they started the process. Reap what you sow, you greedy farks.

Your employer can let you go anytime they want for any reason, including because last quarter's numbers mean the CEO can only buy two diamond-encrusted solid gold backscratchers instead of four, so you owe them nothing in terms of loyalty.



Because when loyal workers get old, the company sends them to the glue factory.
The rest of us have learned our lesson.
 
2014-03-09 06:01:36 PM
I'm 50, I don't know if that makes me old enough to fit the group they're talking about but here's my take on this.

1) Why young people don't use phones for conversation.

Sending a text when you just have a quick message to get across is fine with me, but I do find it odd when they carry on an hour long conversation like that.

2) Why young people switch jobs so often.

Life's to short to work some dead end job any longer than is necessary.


3) Why young people don't use cash.

I never use cash either. What I want to know is why old people still use god damn checks and why the fark they wait until the cashier has wrung up their total before they even get their checkbook out.

4) Young people changed how we watch TV, but doesn't binge-watching make office Spoiler Alerts more necessary?

I watch TV online and I love binge watching, it's far better than waiting a week or more to see what happens next. As far as spoilers, I've heard this whole concept of "water cooler shows" my whole life, but I have yet to ever work with a group of people who sat around discussing TV shows at any length at work. I honestly think it's mostly a made up phenomenon. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I don't think it happens as often as these Hollywood types think it does.


5) Dressing for success seems to mean dressing for Fashion Week.

I'm at the age where I dress in what's comfortable and I don't give a rats ass what it looks like. But I also remember what it's like to be younger and trying to look sharp for the ladies.
 
2014-03-09 06:05:34 PM
I get texting, and I get not using cash. I haven't used cash or checks unless absolutely necessary since the 80s. But I agree about giving a warning about spoilers (that's just being courteous), switching jobs so often (it tells me you're unreliable, probably what it's also telling your future employers) and dressing. DRESSING. Seriously, "Why do young men dress for comfort [read: slobs] and young women dress for Fashion Week?" I wouldn't mind it quite so much if men took a bit more pride in their dress as well.

/My lawn, off it.
 
2014-03-09 06:10:59 PM

Sneakernets: I love text messages because they're kept in recent memory on my phone. For instance, my roommate can text me a shopping list. There is slim to no chance of miscommunication.

And on switching jobs- that's to keep the résumé going strong. Unlike boomers who got laid off and can't find a job because you didn't diversify your skill set. You mad, boomers?


1) I gave up years ago, because my twins never responded to calls, so I text all the time.

2) Am I mad? No, I'm 63 and retired on an Federal pension.  How about you?
 
2014-03-09 06:11:34 PM

capt.hollister: Is it necessary to tick all the boxes to be considered a young person ?
I tick all of them except #5.

/born in 1960


Youth is fleeting and it has flitered on past those at our age
 
2014-03-09 06:15:14 PM

Dadoody: Things millennials don't get about Boomers:

1.) Enormous debt
2.) Terrible pollution
3.) A legacy of entitlement thinking and corruption
4.) Why they've made it so that they're the last generation that had it better than the previous generation
5.) Why they've sold America's future for short-term gains


Enjoy your legacy
 
2014-03-09 06:16:06 PM

Dadoody: Things millennials don't get about Boomers:

1.) Enormous debt
2.) Terrible pollution
3.) A legacy of entitlement thinking and corruption
4.) Why they've made it so that they're the last generation that had it better than the previous generation
5.) Why they've sold America's future for short-term gains


THANK YOU!
 
2014-03-09 06:18:19 PM

cyberspacedout: Gen X here, and I completely understand not using cash. Not only are cards more convenient, but I also don't have to worry about not having enough cash in my wallet for any large purchase I might unexpectedly have to make. It allows for some spontaneity, and doesn't leave me empty handed when out of cash and not near an ATM.


Cards don't require that millennial behind the counter working their seventh job this year to do any math and have to count back your change.
 
2014-03-09 06:18:51 PM

Egoy3k: Maybe if you assholes hadn't broken the economy and sold us on a a dream of wealth that we can't reasonably achieve we wouldn't have to switch jobs so often. Pricks.


Maybe if you assholes had any kind of a work ethic and aspiration to sucess, you might find a decent job and keep it
 
2014-03-09 06:19:27 PM
Oh look, now HuffPost thinks numbered lists are journalism.
 
2014-03-09 06:24:35 PM
You know that old 100 year old guy who biatches and complains about everything? He found out the secret to long life, biatch and complain about everything.
 
2014-03-09 06:24:48 PM
I'm 30, kind of between Gen X and Gen Y, but...

1) Why young people don't use phones for conversation.

I do, but there is a reasonable chance that what I need from you is an exchange of information, not a conversation.  If I wanted to talk to you, then I would talk to you.  If I'm texting you it is because I want to be able to read it again later (shopping list, directions, etc...), or I simply need information from you and don't want the small talk.

2) Why young people switch jobs so often.

Because I have absolutely zero loyalty to a company.  I'm an ultrasound technologist, so it makes fairly good money and I perform a very specific role.  From their perspective:  I am there to help them generate profit.  From my perspective:  I am there to make money and advance my career.  I work hard, I work long hours and take call and overtime, and I follow the rules and get along with my coworkers.  I will continue to work here until I get a better offer somewhere else, period.  That is what zero loyalty looks like.

3) Why young people don't use cash.

Why would I worry about having to carry cash?  I can do everything from my phone and from a card that is always in my wallet that doesn't cost me much if it gets lost or stolen.  Carrying large amounts of cash is a silly, outdated method of paying for things.

4) Young people changed how we watch TV, but doesn't binge-watching make office Spoiler Alerts more necessary?

I, like a lot of young people, don't have Cable.  I pay $8 a month to have more TV and movies available to me than I can possibly watch.  Enjoy your $936 yearly Cable bill (http://www.forbes.com/sites/igorgreenwald/2013/01/15/the-cable-bills -t oo-high-heres-why/)  Also, I have more important things to do in my life than care so much about a TV series that I get all pissy if someone "spoils" it.

5) Dressing for success seems to mean dressing for Fashion Week.

I dress in scrubs every day.  I work in a hospital.  If I'm at somewhere professional (like a job interview) then you'll find me in a shirt and tie, but without a suit coat.  This is a bit dressed up for the profession I'm in, but shows that I am serious about my job.


I thought most of this stuff was obvious, but maybe it isn't obvious to the 50+ crowd?
 
2014-03-09 06:25:18 PM

wataga123: You know that old 100 year old guy who biatches and complains about everything? He found out the secret to long life, biatch and complain about everything.


This
 
2014-03-09 06:28:11 PM
I never got texting until I finally got something besides the bare bones phone, now I find that its great to text with the wife and daughter.  They can let me know something in the middle of work and I can read it when I have a break and not have to try to return a phone call and play telephone tag for the next hour.  The only thing I hate is when I get a text while driving and it turns out to be asking me to do something before I get where I am going (which is when I end up reading the text).

I also find cash better for staying on my weekly budget, I only have so much and am less likely to just go ahead and spend on things I don't need.  Using the card it is just to easy to spend too much, although we use a reloadable prepaid card (that gives a little money to our kid's school) for gas and groceries, but again the key is to only put on the budgeted amount and stick to that for the week.
 
2014-03-09 06:32:07 PM
I have a lawn and whippersnappers need to stay off, but I'm fine with all of those and especially #5 because many of you young chicks dress like whores and I enjoy gawking at you.  Bonus: because I'm over 35 and thus invisible to you, I stare when you're not looking.  Wow, where do you buy those PMDFM* shoes?

styleinvasion.com

* Push me down and fark me.
 
2014-03-09 06:32:41 PM

ghare: You should have voted.


Old people don't let young people vote. Using the "I was here first" doctrine of rule makers such things were outlawed long ago.
 
2014-03-09 06:34:06 PM
I got mine, now fark off. I'm headed to the casino to piss away your inheritance!
 
2014-03-09 06:38:54 PM

cyberspacedout: Gen X here, and I completely understand not using cash. Not only are cards more convenient, but I also don't have to worry about not having enough cash in my wallet for any large purchase I might unexpectedly have to make. It allows for some spontaneity, and doesn't leave me empty handed when out of cash and not near an ATM.


Why not both? I use cards most of the time, but I keep cash with me because there are times it's easier.

Sneakernets: And on switching jobs- that's to keep the résumé going strong. Unlike boomers who got laid off and can't find a job because you didn't diversify your skill set. You mad, boomers?


Constant switches in jobs raise a lot of red flags for employers. You look like somebody they shouldn't invest in, and you look like somebody who's not good enough for companies to make an effort to keep. That's not to say you shouldn't ever move on to new opportunities to help your career, but constant job changes looks rather fishy to a recruiter.
 
2014-03-09 06:40:01 PM

pottie: I got mine, now fark off. I'm headed to the casino to piss away your inheritance!


Take me with you
 
2014-03-09 06:41:57 PM

Egoy3k: ghare: Egoy3k: Maybe if you assholes hadn't broken the economy and sold us on a a dream of wealth that we can't reasonably achieve we wouldn't have to switch jobs so often. Pricks.

You should have voted.

I vote in every single election farkwit.  My demographic is outnumbered by the 'fark you I got mine' contingent in my country and province.


I guess I'm a boomer, born in 1959 (get off my lawn).  I try to avoid the "fark you, I got mine" mind set.   I always vote against bond issues, even when I support what the money is earmarked for.  Because that's passing a debt on to our children.  One example of a particularly stupid bond issue was a 30 year bond to up upgrade the telecommunications equipment for the police, fire department, and emergency systems.  Not a bad idea on the surface, except they estimated the equipment would be obsolete in 10 years.  So 30 years to pay off equipment good for 10 years?  I don't think so.

I used to support education bond issues.  But every year we tossed more money at the schools.  And every year the quality of the education went down more.  And every year the teachers union would scream "we need more money!"  I got tired of their bullshiat.
 
2014-03-09 06:43:10 PM
Most of it's been covered, but I'll drop mine anyways...

1) I find phone calls rather impersonal, unless kept extremely brief. Like, less than a minute brief.  Also requires you to discern too much emotion from the other parties voice. Guess I'm lazy on that.

2) Becuase there's this whole big world out there to see, and I sure as hell am not gonna get stuck in an 8-5 for 20 years. Also, a laundry list of economic factors.

3) Because a card is far more convenient, and cash can be taken from you. And not just by your neighborhood thief. See LEO confiscation for, well, having money (aka, legal theft).

4) Because TV is the only thing that there is to talk about with your coworkers or strangers. Much less, you have to do something useless on a sick day.

5) Because If I wear collared button-up with a tie, I feel like I'm being strangled, despite the proper neck-size adjustment. That, and it's a metaphor for a leash. If I'm physically uncomfortable with what I'm wearing, that means I'm distracted, and not on my 'A' game for wherever and whatever I'm doing. Especially, if it's work related.

Guess I'm an outlier for living how I want, and have doomed myself to be a social outcast. Meh..
 
2014-03-09 06:45:33 PM

rkiller1: because many of you young chicks dress like whores and I enjoy gawking at you.


So much this!

Lots of young hotties at my work who wear yoga pants.  I'm going to look.  I can't help it.  I'm programmed by a few hundred thousand years of evolution.
 
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