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(Some Dude)   With no House challengers with a chance, and only one with a shot at the Senate, the tea party should try to enjoy the last of its fifteen minutes   (saintpetersblog.com) divider line 90
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2014-03-09 02:22:54 PM
They're going to get annihilated in the Senate in 2016.
 
2014-03-09 02:25:42 PM
Beware hubris.
 
2014-03-09 02:28:45 PM

2wolves: Beware hubris.


What's a hubri?
 
2014-03-09 02:35:41 PM
As much as I hate to say it, let's not start sucking each other's dicks over the downfall of the tea party just yet. They will be around farking things up for awhile
 
2014-03-09 02:42:04 PM

Peter von Nostrand: As much as I hate to say it, let's not start sucking each other's dicks over the downfall of the tea party just yet. They will be around farking things up for awhile


It's not hubris, it's calculus.  In 2016, all of the 2010 Tea Partiers will be up for reelection.  The Dems will only have a small number of seats to defend, and gerrymandering won't be able to help the GOP win those races.  Plus, it will be a Presidential year and if Hillary is out rallying people to vote, it could get really ugly really fast for the Tea Party.  And that assumes the money men don't hamstring them even more than they already are.  Anything can happen in two years obviously, but the Tea Party has a lot of work to do if they want to hold on to their gains past 2016.
 
2014-03-09 02:43:00 PM

Mentat: They're going to get annihilated in the Senate in 2016.


My guess is that if Grimes doesn't beat McConnell, and it's reasonably close, she'll probably just keep the campaign mechanism in place and go after RAND PAUL in 2016.  And RAND will probably be too distracted by his quixotic Presidential campaign, and I think she'll beat him.  A lot of people around here are sick of RAND, and it's become obvious to everyone but his most deluded fans that he is not interested in being Kentucky's Senator for any reason other than to give a soapbox for his stupid ideas.

I think she could possibly beat McConnell, though.  It's a long shot, but it's possible.
 
2014-03-09 02:44:49 PM
Yeah, because the Republican party as a whole and the candidate hopefuls at CPAC haven't spent the last few years contorting themselves to fit the Tea Party mold with wild abandon and gleeful anticipation of being anointed The Most Conservative (TM)
 
2014-03-09 02:47:34 PM
He regularly questioned Obama's truthfulness in explaining the 2012 death of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, a particular tea party rallying cry.

BENGHAZI *drink*
 
2014-03-09 02:53:14 PM
its candidates face a different environment than was present in 2010 and 2012, when they won a series of key contests, highlighted by the election of Sen. Ted Cruz in Texas.

Hard to believe that farkwad has only been around for a little more than a year.

Think of all the damage he can do to the GOP in five more years.  Rage on, Rafi!
 
2014-03-09 03:05:23 PM
TL;DR
what was the POINT of the article?
How many current house tea party candidates are facing a challenger?
Primary or General Election?

Are they expected to lose their incumbent seats??
 
2014-03-09 03:16:50 PM
May Teabaggers go down in American history as the most appropriately named political movement ever. Teabagging.
 
2014-03-09 03:19:10 PM

namatad: TL;DR
what was the POINT of the article?
How many current house tea party candidates are facing a challenger?
Primary or General Election?

Are they expected to lose their incumbent seats??


I think you have to read the article to find out?
 
2014-03-09 03:20:37 PM
ITS
 
2014-03-09 03:27:31 PM

joemax: ITS


Subby hangs head in shame.

/oh look, there's a quarter on the floor
 
2014-03-09 03:34:26 PM
files.fraterslibertas.com
 
2014-03-09 03:35:50 PM

Mentat: They're going to get annihilated in the Senate in 2016.


Perhaps, but they will do everything they can to fark everyone for the next two years.
 
2014-03-09 03:36:04 PM
Lol.  Fifteen minutes.  Lecture me on those "fifteen minutes" when the singularity culls through the collective works of the human species and declares the Tea Party the healthiest, most powerful beings who ever lived.  Those "fifteen minutes" will feel like an eternity to you stupid libs when the singularity is lowering taxes, automating our entire way of life, and keeping the government out of my healthcare.
 
2014-03-09 03:38:17 PM
Why is everyone pretending the tea party is independent/different from the GOP?
 
2014-03-09 03:40:02 PM
The tea party did exactly what its overlords intended - further stretch the zeitgeist to make fascism more palatable. In another ten years, the right-wing base will have been rebranded yet again and we'll be having the same conversation about backlash and overreach in which Democrats have been gleefully wallowing in for the past three decades.
 
2014-03-09 03:40:14 PM

2wolves: Beware hubris.


Hu-bis? That sounds like a foreigner muslom word to me!
 
2014-03-09 03:41:41 PM

AirForceVet: May Teabaggers go down in American history as the most appropriately named political movement ever. Teabagging.


The Know-Nothings would like to have a word with you.
 
2014-03-09 03:41:47 PM
As some other Farker once sagely pointed out - this snake just keeps swallowing its own tail.
 
2014-03-09 03:43:48 PM
the fifteen minutes arent over by a long shot. Stupid of that strength and magnitude never really dies., they'll be back even if they get knocked back hard with this election
 
2014-03-09 03:52:40 PM

namatad: TL;DR
what was the POINT of the article?
How many current house tea party candidates are facing a challenger?
Primary or General Election?

Are they expected to lose their incumbent seats??


You didn't read the article but you want to know what the point of the article was?  If only there were some way to gather that information from the article itself.
 
2014-03-09 04:05:23 PM

Mike_LowELL: Lol.  Fifteen minutes.  Lecture me on those "fifteen minutes" when the singularity culls through the collective works of the human species and declares the Tea Party the healthiest, most powerful beings who ever lived.  Those "fifteen minutes" will feel like an eternity to you stupid libs when the singularity is lowering taxes, automating our entire way of life, and keeping the government out of my healthcare.


Not sure if troll or  meyerkev.
 
2014-03-09 04:05:29 PM

Peter von Nostrand: As much as I hate to say it, let's not start sucking each other's dicks over the downfall of the tea party just yet. They will be around farking things up for awhile


Especially since one delusional freshman senator can apparently shut down the whole federal government
.
 
2014-03-09 04:08:01 PM
I wish this were good news, but realistically, the country would be better off if the Republicans fielded a roster of unelectable wingnuts rather than the faux-reasonable criminals-in-waiting they will put up instead. Sure, Congress will be more collegial with traditional Republicans in charge, but we saw in 2002-2006 what happens when "reasonable" Republicans are given free access to the cookie jar. The Democrats need to take off this kid gloves this coming election season and call out the current crop of "traditional" Republicans for what they are: minions of the uber-wealthy, enemies of the poor, the sick, and women, and, in many cases, unindicted co-conspirators in the enormous crime committed by the previous administration against the American people.
 
2014-03-09 04:10:30 PM

Alebak: the fifteen minutes arent over by a long shot. Stupid of that strength and magnitude never really dies., they'll be back even if they get knocked back hard with this election


I'm not good at identifying quotes, but I'm guessing that's something someone said about Ross Perot's Reform Party circa 2000?

Different bottle, same whine.
 
2014-03-09 04:14:16 PM

Peter von Nostrand: As much as I hate to say it, let's not start sucking each other's dicks over the downfall of the tea party just yet. They will be around farking things up for awhile


The tea party emerged as a reaction to big government, high taxes, and deficit spending. Since the party controlling the white house and Senate isn't interested in doing anything about those things, the tea party will continue to be around for a LONG TIME.
 
2014-03-09 04:17:33 PM

Animatronik: The tea party emerged as a reaction to big government, high taxes, and deficit spending.


The Tea Party was an astroturfed rebranding of conservatism which emerged as a reaction to W destroying the conservative brand and the GOP losing to a blah president.
 
2014-03-09 04:19:47 PM
Cornyn, who defeated two tea party opponents in Texas this week, spent more than $3 million on advertising and adopted the movement's issues and fierce rhetoric, especially in denouncing President Barack Obama.

So... by adopting all the Tea Party rhetoric and outspending them Cornholio managed to beat two TP assclowns challenging him for his seat?

So... winning?

The TP have put their derpy agenda front and center in the GOP's rhetoric and policies.

2016 will definitely be contest between TP/GOP derpy divisiveness and the Dems attempts at inclusive reality based politics.

It really shouldn't be a contest but the RW media is powerful in the US and the rest of the corporate media play a BSAB false equivalency game that leaves large chunks of the population woefully under/misinformed on the issues of the day.

So while I'd like to think that the day of the derpers is rapidly coming to an end in 2016 I'm still thinking there's a lot of road left to travel on there.
 
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2014-03-09 04:19:50 PM
I think there are a lot of dynamics at play which are not being considered by the strategists.  For example, there are a growing number of people who originally wanted the affordable health care act but now they realize it's going to cost them a lot of money each month (and a large deductable) and they're not happy with being forced to buy it.  Then a growing number of people are buying into the relentless GOP anti-Democrat / Obama propaganda.  Then there is the standard 6th year fatigue (which typically grows).

I think it's clear the Democrats are going to be in trouble in 2016.  I think there is a good change the Republicans will gain control of the house and senate.
 
2014-03-09 04:22:36 PM

llortcM_yllort: Mike_LowELL: Lol.  Fifteen minutes.  Lecture me on those "fifteen minutes" when the singularity culls through the collective works of the human species and declares the Tea Party the healthiest, most powerful beings who ever lived.  Those "fifteen minutes" will feel like an eternity to you stupid libs when the singularity is lowering taxes, automating our entire way of life, and keeping the government out of my healthcare.

Not sure if troll or  meyerkev.


static.comicvine.com
 
2014-03-09 04:25:28 PM

NFA: I think there are a lot of dynamics at play which are not being considered by the strategists.  For example, there are a growing number of people who originally wanted the affordable health care act but now they realize it's going to cost them a lot of money each month (and a large deductable) and they're not happy with being forced to buy it.  Then a growing number of people are buying into the relentless GOP anti-Democrat / Obama propaganda.  Then there is the standard 6th year fatigue (which typically grows).

I think it's clear the Democrats are going to be in trouble in 2016.  I think there is a good change the Republicans will gain control of the house and senate.


All you need are some statisticals...
 
2014-03-09 04:32:23 PM

NFA: I think there are a lot of dynamics at play which are not being considered by the strategists.  For example, there are a growing number of people who originally wanted the affordable health care act but now they realize it's going to cost them a lot of money each month (and a large deductable) and they're not happy with being forced to buy it.  Then a growing number of people are buying into the relentless GOP anti-Democrat / Obama propaganda.  Then there is the standard 6th year fatigue (which typically grows).

I think it's clear the Democrats are going to be in trouble in 2016.  I think there is a good change the Republicans will gain control of the house and senate.


Got any proof for...well, any of that?
 
2014-03-09 04:33:02 PM

NFA: I think there are a lot of dynamics at play which are not being considered by the strategists.  For example, there are a growing number of people who originally wanted the affordable health care act but now they realize it's going to cost them a lot of money each month (and a large deductable) and they're not happy with being forced to buy it.  Then a growing number of people are buying into the relentless GOP anti-Democrat / Obama propaganda.  Then there is the standard 6th year fatigue (which typically grows).

I think it's clear the Democrats are going to be in trouble in 2016.  I think there is a good change the Republicans will gain control of the house and senate.


lol no.
 
2014-03-09 04:37:41 PM

Mentat: They're going to get annihilated in the Senate in 2016.


I want to have hope that the Democrats can liberate Congress from gop domination.
 
2014-03-09 04:38:18 PM
Don't celebrate yet.   The tea party is still set to win many state level elections.
 
2014-03-09 04:42:11 PM

AirForceVet: May Teabaggers go down in American history as the most appropriately named political movement ever. Teabagging.


www.saintpetersblog.com
Here's a guy/gal showing how it's done
 
2014-03-09 04:49:16 PM

Mike_LowELL: Lol.  Fifteen minutes.  Lecture me on those "fifteen minutes" when the singularity culls through the collective works of the human species and declares the Tea Party the healthiest, most powerful beings who ever lived.  Those "fifteen minutes" will feel like an eternity to you stupid libs when the singularity is lowering taxes, automating our entire way of life, and keeping the government out of my healthcare.


 "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn "
 
2014-03-09 04:50:35 PM

Animatronik: The tea party emerged as a reaction to big government that didn't legislate Christian beliefs, high taxes on the oppressed rich according to Fox News, and deficit spending on the poor and minorities instead of the military.


Fixed. The real libertarian leaning Tea Party members are as rare as an openly gay man in the leadership of the Mormon church.
 
2014-03-09 04:52:09 PM
I hope they have an online contest to select the new name for that same demographic they've been milking for the last 35 years.
 
2014-03-09 04:58:13 PM

TV's Vinnie: Mentat: They're going to get annihilated in the Senate in 2016.

I want to have hope that the Democrats can liberate Congress from gop domination.


If the Dems manage to only lose 2-3 seats or less in 2014, they'll actually be looking at building a Senate supermajority in 2016.  Republican senators in all these states will be up for reelection:

Florida
Illinois
Iowa
New Hampshire
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
North Carolina
Missouri

That's a lot of Obama states to win statewide elections in, and you're looking at a Hillary run for president, which should provide better coattails in NC + Missouri.

Republicans may be looking at a situation where they're counting on their gerrymandered House map to stop Democrats from having president + supermajority Senate + House.
 
2014-03-09 04:59:15 PM

Lionel Mandrake: its candidates face a different environment than was present in 2010 and 2012, when they won a series of key contests, highlighted by the election of Sen. Ted Cruz in Texas.

Hard to believe that farkwad has only been around for a little more than a year.

Think of all the damage he can do to the GOP in five more years.  Rage on, Rafi!




Republicans were so annoyed at David Dewhurst they elected a moron.

Expect Dewhurst to lose the run off election and hand the Lt. Governorship to a women. A BROWN women. Tea Baggers will explode with derp.
 
2014-03-09 05:09:56 PM
Independent here. I'll vote Democrats or GOP but I'll never vote for tea party idiocy.
 
2014-03-09 05:13:05 PM

balloot: TV's Vinnie: Mentat: They're going to get annihilated in the Senate in 2016.

I want to have hope that the Democrats can liberate Congress from gop domination.

If the Dems manage to only lose 2-3 seats or less in 2014, they'll actually be looking at building a Senate supermajority in 2016.  Republican senators in all these states will be up for reelection:

Florida
Illinois
Iowa
New Hampshire
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
North Carolina
Missouri

That's a lot of Obama states to win statewide elections in, and you're looking at a Hillary run for president, which should provide better coattails in NC + Missouri.

Republicans may be looking at a situation where they're counting on their gerrymandered House map to stop Democrats from having president + supermajority Senate + House.


Unless we get Feingold-RoJo II don't count on WI coming back to the Democrats' side.
 
2014-03-09 05:22:45 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: balloot: TV's Vinnie: Mentat: They're going to get annihilated in the Senate in 2016.

I want to have hope that the Democrats can liberate Congress from gop domination.

If the Dems manage to only lose 2-3 seats or less in 2014, they'll actually be looking at building a Senate supermajority in 2016.  Republican senators in all these states will be up for reelection:

Florida
Illinois
Iowa
New Hampshire
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
North Carolina
Missouri

That's a lot of Obama states to win statewide elections in, and you're looking at a Hillary run for president, which should provide better coattails in NC + Missouri.

Republicans may be looking at a situation where they're counting on their gerrymandered House map to stop Democrats from having president + supermajority Senate + House.

Unless we get Feingold-RoJo II don't count on WI coming back to the Democrats' side.


Well, we did just elect an openly gay female Democrat this last time. And she beat a fairly well liked former governor to do it.
 
2014-03-09 05:41:32 PM

Teufelaffe: namatad: TL;DR
what was the POINT of the article?
How many current house tea party candidates are facing a challenger?
Primary or General Election?

Are they expected to lose their incumbent seats??

You didn't read the article but you want to know what the point of the article was?  If only there were some way to gather that information from the article itself.


FFS, I TRIED reading the article and it was rabling shiat from hell. Hence the TL;DR ...
And the headline seemed to imply things not obvious in the article.

BUT THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR WISDOM!!!
:D
 
2014-03-09 05:53:16 PM

Big 900: Well, we did just elect an openly gay female Democrat this last time. And she beat a fairly well liked former governor to do it.


Ok, care to name another Democrat apart from Feingold who can win on a state-wide level?  Because he and Baldwin are essentially the only two hitters in that line up that scare the Republicans at all.

/Although Vinehout could interesting if they ever gave her a shot
 
2014-03-09 06:11:30 PM

Animatronik: Peter von Nostrand: As much as I hate to say it, let's not start sucking each other's dicks over the downfall of the tea party just yet. They will be around farking things up for awhile

The tea party emerged as a reaction to big government, high taxes, and deficit spending. Since the party controlling the white house and Senate isn't interested in doing anything about those things, the tea party will continue to be around for a LONG TIME.


You do realize that no one still believes the whole "the Tea Party is a grassroots movement" schtick, right?
 
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