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2004-02-02 10:49:32 AM
AcornMan

Funny you bring that up, I was looking over my W-2s today and was wondering if anyone *had* gotten those checks for 2003, or do they show up next year?

What's the point of that if we end up so far in debt our dollar falls to nothing against other countries?

Hell, we are going to be even with Canada's dollar we keep this up.

(Side note, I have nothing against Canada).
 
2004-02-02 10:49:45 AM
well after the binge late 90's - someone's got to pick up the tab.

the big bubble. yeah, it's gone. really. no kidding, and the profit taking was spectacular. no, no, no one knows. right. well, what's a million now days.

anyways, they will not understand it, and by the time they do the cash reserves will be 'spent,' on consultants hired to help us avoid spending the cash reserves. yeah. yeah.
dot com willie. let the music play. we will get away.
 
2004-02-02 10:49:58 AM
Dear Congress,

Do what you like. Stupid farkers that don't vote complain and whine like babies so they can appear witty on the Internet.

Don't bother defeating ridiculous spending measures because people aren't going to vote anyway.

Sincerely,

Common Sense
 
2004-02-02 10:50:26 AM
He needs all that money for his sharks with the friggin' "laser" beams attached to their FRIGGIN' foreheads so he can finish his world domination!!

 
2004-02-02 10:50:33 AM
aztex999,

The average American is going to pay more attention to the results from Survivor than this. I think the government will have to come crashing down around their ears before most people even give news like this more than a passing glance.
 
2004-02-02 10:50:44 AM
Friendly Canadian Neighbors: Does NDP stand for National Democratic Party?

/thanks
 
2004-02-02 10:51:07 AM
caiteach

In other news, the Bush Administration just ruled that mercury isn't a toxin. No, I'm not joking. They just reached that decision in the latest Federal Registrar. So much for sound science.

Linky linky? This I gotta see...
 
2004-02-02 10:51:19 AM
Seriously, are we kidding with this guy as our president?

Is their a worse combination in a politician than fiscally liberal (with a side of government expansion) and socially conservative?

Will America be fooled into thinking his huge budget is kinda-sorta affordable even though he didn't include two of our bigger expenses in its calculation?

Is it November yet?
 
2004-02-02 10:52:15 AM
Well, once again we have a posse of confused Farkers who haven't been paying attention and somehow believe radical right-wing republicans have your future and well-being in mind. Don't get how tax cuts for the rich and wild military spending can possibly make sense? Don't understand why anyone in his right mind would do something so fiscally and economically reckless? Wonder where it all leads?

Well, I'm gonna do y'all a favor and give you the shortcut to understanding.

Google Grover Norquist.

Google Grover Norquist and read about his philosophy and plans.

And kiss Social Security and Medicare and highway funding and everything else goodbye, Farkers. Into the bargain, look forward to drastically reduced compensation for your labor, competition with 3rd Worlders for every underpaid job in America, and the sale of all non-defense or police-state related federal assets to the very same people who are getting the tax cuts.

In short, welcome to the New Gilded Age, Farkers. I hope y'all will enjoy being indentured servants.
 
2004-02-02 10:53:16 AM
poorgirl: Candian and European protectionist subsidies[ie: Socialismorons] can't last as long as US deficits. Think Soviet Union and US spending machine.

BYE BYE euro-enlightenment emo-bots.
 
2004-02-02 10:53:31 AM
Where are the Bush supporters? How are you going to defend this?
 
2004-02-02 10:53:38 AM
My credit card people called and I told them I was running deficits right now in order to gaurentee that they will get their money in the future, I just need about 35 years. The guy hung up on me.
 
2004-02-02 10:54:15 AM
the_pgoat
Friendly Canadian Neighbors: Does NDP stand for National Democratic Party?

NDP = New Democratic Party

To put the party's platform in terms American farkers can understand, you might want to think of them as a real "socialist" party.
 
2004-02-02 10:55:04 AM
Link to the Federal Registrar

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/

The coal electric mercury draft rule is at

69 FR 4652 (30 January 2004) featuring one hearing at an
unknown place and a 60 day comment period ending 30 March.
 
2004-02-02 10:55:30 AM
re: New Democratic Party

Lot's of good ideas, but big government/big spending ultra lefties. Red ink gushed and we had to kick them out quick before they bankrupted us.
 
2004-02-02 10:55:34 AM
2004-02-02 10:49:45 AM ocsnow

"the big bubble. yeah, it's gone. really. no kidding, and the profit taking was spectacular. no, no, no one knows. right. well, what's a million now days. "

really understand your post, no I don't, yes I do, no kidding, she's my daughter, my sister, my daughter, my sister
 
2004-02-02 10:56:50 AM

What bothers me is the amount of money earmarked for programs pushing what Bush thinks is moral. Programs like random drug testing for high school kids, abstanence programs rather then sex ed and encouraging marrage (but only the right kind, sorry gay folks).

I already had a mother who taught me right from wrong, I don't need another.

 
2004-02-02 10:57:05 AM
Sven Jolly
re: New Democratic Party
Lot's of good ideas, but big government/big spending ultra lefties. Red ink gushed and we had to kick them out quick before they bankrupted us.

Its almost worth voting NDP to see the look on Bush's face when they introduce him to Prime Minister Jack Layton.
 
2004-02-02 10:57:07 AM
george bush invented the deficit to get to linseed oil
out from old tables.

before bush, there was NO deficit.

the democrats do not use deficit spending,
vote for them.

____


http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdhisto4.htm
 
2004-02-02 10:57:42 AM
Well put Robobagpiper. I would love to be able to read exactly where the areas are most affected and how. It seems like too broad of a generalization to simply write the EPA and DA will be hardest hit.

From my own personal experience the defense spending initiated, military equipment acquisition and R&D specifically, are in dire need of both additional funding and better stewardship. Hate to throw stones but the Clinton era gutted the American military and sent its acquisition community into a r&d tailspin. So his proposal is filled with some fluff. Congress will likely gut it in the process of getting it passed. Checks and balances in action.
 
2004-02-02 10:57:47 AM
Right on, canyoneer. Here's a quick test:

Do you own multiple houses, and move based upon the weather?

Do you earn more on the market than you would actually getting up in the morning and going somewhere?

Are you concerned that the guys at the Club giggle at the size of your plane?

If you've answered "no" to all of these questions, then Bush is probably not looking out for your interests.
 
2004-02-02 10:59:07 AM
canyoneer: Medicare and Social Security and Highway funding goodbye? Holy shiat Please, please please, give us that, er, stop taking that rather.

"Tax Cuts for the rich"? More like INCOME tax cuts for people that PAY INCOME TAXES.

Google Jeff Rense.

Google Jeff Rense and Therapy.

I hope you like running, but I'm here to tell you that aliens move faster than progresslaves run.
 
ESH
2004-02-02 10:59:32 AM
I'd give a kidney for even the chance of having an honest to goodness statesman in office next year. GWB is bad, but none of the Dem noms are any better. They are all $$ whores.

It troubles me to live in a country that is basically run by the big corporations and monied special interests. Worse, it bugs me that our politicians keep a majority of the people occupied with what I consider nearly irrelevant platform issues (abortion, school vouchers, death penalty), all the while they are stealing and generally reducing the quality of life for a great majority of us.

I will be voting 3rd Party this year because I don't want to throw my vote away on either a Republican(R) or Republican-Lite(D) candidate.
 
2004-02-02 10:59:49 AM
Thank you, Dubya!

Apparently the deficit is only $521 billion because he's asking Congress not to fix the Alternative Minimum Tax this year.

In other words, taxes on the rich go down. Taxes on the middle class go up under this buffoon.

Is there anyone that still believes conservatives' mindless economic- and tax-slogans?
 
2004-02-02 10:59:53 AM
abbynormal,
"abstanence programs rather then sex ed and encouraging marrage "

I like the program, that helps people learn how to use a spell checker.
 
2004-02-02 11:00:10 AM
*ponders* Would it seem perhaps more logical to make it a 2 trillion dollar budget and fark off the physco debt levels?

/incredible genius.
 
2004-02-02 11:00:11 AM
Crap, Im gonna have to become awfully rich really fast if this BS keeps up.
At this rate we'll have "The Running Man" and island size prisons in no time.
Where's Snake Plisskin when you need him?
 
2004-02-02 11:01:45 AM
2004-02-02 10:57:47 AM Bladel:

Here is an even quiker test:

Do you make less than $250,000/year?

Then voting for a Republican at any level is masochism (derivation of pleasure from being dominated or mistreated).

Trust me, folks. Look up Grover Norquist to see your future.
 
2004-02-02 11:01:47 AM
No way in hell is he getting my vote. I'm deffinently not one of the Bush haters, he simply can't hold his position well. I'd rather have someone that can do a better job in Washington than the guy thats on my parties ticket.
 
2004-02-02 11:02:20 AM
setaanbomb

"Candian and European protectionist subsidies[ie: Socialismorons] can't last as long as US deficits. Think Soviet Union and US spending machine.

BYE BYE euro-enlightenment emo-bots."

... except Canada is currently running a budget surplus. Keep running your defecits, when nobody answers the phone ("Pssst, don't answer it. It's the US looking to borrow money again."), then you'll know it's big enough.

/... once again CANADA IS RUNNING A BUDGET SURPLUS. In case you missed it. Budget Surplus, Budget Surplus na ni na na naaaah.
 
2004-02-02 11:02:37 AM
Yes, yes, that's all fine and good, but what will this do to my extensive stock holdings? (Peels another shrimp, summons Philippino houseboy for more mimosas and cherries jubilee).

/smart white man
 
2004-02-02 11:02:45 AM
I'm so sick of this BS poor people don't pay taxes line. You've been fed a sound bite that doesn't reflect reality in any way shape or form. I have a friend who only made about $20,000 last year. She ended up owning the IRS $1,000 on her tax return. Does that sound liek she's not paying taxes.
 
2004-02-02 11:02:49 AM
What a stinking joke. Now if this doesn't get him out of office, I am moving to Canada. This is getting insane!!! A projected defecit of $521 BILLION dollars??????
 
2004-02-02 11:02:49 AM
ocsnow

Give it up already. Clinton hasnt been president for 4 years. The republicans control the budget in congress and the executive branch.

"Its all clintons fault" is not going to get Bush any votes outside the halls of the national review.
 
2004-02-02 11:03:50 AM
"the democrats do not use deficit spending,"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHHHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Comedy Arsenio Hall

Deficits only matterred to Democrats after Reagan's tax cuts grew the economy as record rates. Prior to Reagan the Democrats cared about deficits like Hitler cared about Jews.

Democrats didn't battle the deficit. Democrats were beaten down by Republicans in the Congress that USED to care about limiting the proposals of the President. Clinton didn't balance the budget, the Congress wouldn't let him increase the deficit. Clinton also never governed during a federal recession.
 
2004-02-02 11:04:03 AM

Fark has a spell checker?

/looking for the button

 
2004-02-02 11:04:17 AM
More like INCOME tax cuts for people that PAY INCOME TAXES.

Nice half-truth there.

Meanwhile, the payroll taxes of the rich are capped at a middle-class income level, completely offsetting their increase in marginal rate, not to mention the portion of non-payroll income which the non-rich don't have.

Oh, those poor babies. Now the rich pay less as a portion of their total income than the middle class, and yet do we see their sons going off to the wars that they're profiteering off?

Why do angry white men leap to defend the rich so quickly and routinely? These people are making out like bandits. They are not your friends, and you will never be one of them.
 
2004-02-02 11:04:33 AM
Like the post-babyboomers have any chance of ever having decent Social Security! Give up hope now. Get your IRAs/401Ks
 
2004-02-02 11:04:46 AM
Okay, economics isn't one of my strongest points... all these trillions of dollars that we're in debt, I'm curious, who exactly do we owe this money to? Who are we borrowing it from?
 
2004-02-02 11:06:16 AM
Abbynormal,

Yes, it does. Go to your preferences and click on the radio button.
 
2004-02-02 11:07:48 AM
It doesn't matter, he'll still get re-elected. He could've proposed burning the Consitution, invading Poland, and killed a kitten during the State of the Union address and he'd still get re-elected. Why? I don't want to speculate, but it's probably because this country is full of morons.
 
2004-02-02 11:09:26 AM
Do you have any idea how many thousands of sweatshop workers it takes just to keep Paris Hilton in shoes and clothes? The rich spend money and create jobs, they don't waste it on food and shelter the way the poor would.

That's trickle down. An-ti-ci-pation.
 
2004-02-02 11:10:07 AM
 
2004-02-02 11:10:20 AM
OlafTheBent: Budget Surplus doesn't mean shiat when 10% of your workforce is unemployed, the waiting period for a routine physical is 60 days and macro-economic growth is non-existent.

Oh and if you love it when people walk around squeezing one of your balls all the time then move to Canada.
 
2004-02-02 11:10:26 AM
2004-02-02 10:59:07 AM setaanbomb: I see you consider yourself one of the ones who will come out on top. Climbing the old ladder, are ya? Probably a business-school drone, a true believer in the benevolent Invisible Hand of the market. A drinker of the Free Market Kool-Aid.

For your information: The Invisible hand of the market is a fairy tale based on your misapprehension that a free market actually exists, or can exist among human beings anywhere at anytime.

Good luck, setaanbomb. Maybe you'll come out of the shark tank alive and well, and convince yourself that the ones who didn't make it are inferior beings who deserve their fate.

That would be just peachy and fine, eh setaanbomb?
 
2004-02-02 11:10:29 AM
caiteach - Yes, it does.
 
2004-02-02 11:10:47 AM
>>... once again CANADA IS RUNNING A BUDGET SURPLUS. In case you missed it. Budget Surplus, Budget Surplus na ni na na naaaah.Canada is mocking us.

How the mighty have fallen...
 
2004-02-02 11:11:30 AM
[steele]

Sad ain't it? There are definately morons aplenty.

In the large likelyhood this jackass gets re-elected, I think I'm moving to Candada.

~B~
 
2004-02-02 11:11:58 AM
scootah
*ponders* Would it seem perhaps more logical to make it a 2 trillion dollar budget and fark off the physco debt levels?

/incredible genius.


Because your budget has to work with your income.

That would be like me saying that I have a monthly budget of $1 million, having a monthly income of $3000.00, spending $10,000, then saying "Well, I may be $7000.00 in debt, but I'm still well within my budget".

3Horn
 
2004-02-02 11:11:58 AM
[steele]

Agreed.
 
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