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(TMZ)   Man suing McDonald's because they refused to give him more napkins is now Jack in the Box's problem. Just wait until he gets e coli from their beef   (tmz.com) divider line 64
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2014-03-09 11:56:57 AM  
Jack In The Box has beef napkins?
 
2014-03-09 12:24:28 PM  

Notabunny: Jack In The Box has beef napkins?


No no no, beef curtains.
 
2014-03-09 12:24:42 PM  
Good thing he wasn't waiting for meat curtains.
 
2014-03-09 12:26:03 PM  
When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?
 
2014-03-09 12:26:18 PM  

Notabunny: Jack In The Box has beef napkins?


Even the menu is made of beef!
 
2014-03-09 12:26:37 PM  
I like how he found his race card.  It would be nice if he wound up having to pay for all of McDonald's legal bills that they run up defending against his lawsuit.
 
2014-03-09 12:28:56 PM  
inb4 meat curtains
 
2014-03-09 12:30:55 PM  
This was about 19 years ago (holy sh*t I'm old...) but when I worked at McD's we were told 2 napkins for the first sandwich, 1 napkin for each additional one.

Racial slurs were frowned upon.
 
2014-03-09 12:32:23 PM  

Uglybarnacle: inb4 meat curtains


Sadly too late.
 
2014-03-09 12:40:22 PM  

Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?


How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?  Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.
 
2014-03-09 12:40:26 PM  
Every McDonalds I've ever been in has napkin dispensers in the dining area. Is this idiot too lazy to go grab however many he wants?
 
2014-03-09 12:42:00 PM  
I think as long as you are pleasant and smile you can just say to the person, "go away you slob you are holding up the line".
 
2014-03-09 12:47:19 PM  

TinyFist: This was about 19 years ago (holy sh*t I'm old...) but when I worked at McD's we were told 2 napkins for the first sandwich, 1 napkin for each additional one.

Racial slurs were frowned upon.


I know someone who did a case study on a failed Harveys franchise as part of her MBA. The location was open and highly successful for over 20 years when it was bought out and the new owners started limiting condiments and napkins. This in turn alienated the customers and the place closed within six months. It could be a regional thing but every fast food place where I live has "self-serve" napkins and ketchup (Subway is the only exception). I don't think I've been to a McDonald's anywhere in the last 20 years that didn't do the same. The vast majority even have self-serve pop as well.
 
2014-03-09 12:50:15 PM  

ramblinwreck: Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?

How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?  Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.


/Because, they know that giant corporations will pay you STFU and GBTW money to just go away to make you STFU and quit making them look bad. Its all about image.
 
2014-03-09 12:51:15 PM  
Our local McDs are doing this now, too.  No idea what the bum requirement is for paper napkins, but the big containers next to the self serve soda fountains are gone.  They give you a few on your tray when you order.
 
2014-03-09 12:54:42 PM  

ramblinwreck: Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?

How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?  Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.


The same way corporations get sued for the actions of their employees all the time.  It's called respondeat superior.  If an employee commits a tort while in the course of his normal employment, the boss is responsible.  I assume serving customers and providing napkins is part of the clerk's normal employment.

And have you seen the complaint?  How do you know what evidence there is?
 
2014-03-09 12:57:58 PM  
I got 24 napkins with a single burger to go yesterday.
Didn't even ask. They were just in the bag.
 
2014-03-09 12:58:30 PM  

ArmednHammered: Every McDonalds I've ever been in has napkin dispensers in the dining area. Is this idiot too lazy to go grab however many he wants?


There's a few that don't put anything out at all. No straws, no lids, no napkins, ketchup, nothing. Usually they are in truck stops or in areas like East Chicago where either people can grab stuff from the non-restaurant side (apparently cheaper than getting it from Golden State Foods) or they don't like people loitering and want to encourage drive thru only traffic.
 
2014-03-09 01:07:01 PM  

vudukungfu: I got 24 napkins with a single burger to go yesterday.
Didn't even ask. They were just in the bag.


Its because you're a dirty *insert ethnic origin here*.  You should sue for that.
 
2014-03-09 01:09:22 PM  
Oh look. A black person filing a frivolous lawsuit hoping to cash in. Shocking.
 
2014-03-09 01:12:25 PM  

cowgirl toffee: you're a dirty *insert ethnic origin here*.


Cherokee/Irish/German/African/Seneca, actually.
I pass for white.
 
2014-03-09 01:16:33 PM  

TinyFist: This was about 19 years ago (holy sh*t I'm old...) but when I worked at McD's we were told 2 napkins for the first sandwich, 1 napkin for each additional one.

Racial slurs were frowned upon.


I live in a country where McDonalds lets you take as many straws and napkins as you want.
 
2014-03-09 01:19:47 PM  
Screw this asshole. I hope McD's spends as much as needed on legal fees to make this asshole look like the asshole that he is.

"You people" is a universal term. It's not racist unless the the person who thinks it is, is racist.
 
2014-03-09 01:29:05 PM  
Just waiting for the lawsuit against the McDonalds by my work. They never follow any of the promotional sales: never. Everything is always full price.

They'll take coupons though; but they'll be really pissy about it.
 
2014-03-09 01:30:45 PM  
he's an asshole; he carries his own e. coli.
 
2014-03-09 01:31:42 PM  

Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?


Probably the same time that having "scalding hot coffee burning through flesh after a spill from a flimsy cup occurring in the passenger seat of a stationary vehicle" became "slight discomfort from some warm coffee spilling while driving along on the highway".
 
2014-03-09 01:41:39 PM  
How do people find lawyers to take on these ridiculous cases?
Not only is a lawyer taking this case, but they must be doing it on commission - I doubt this guy has the money to pay an attorney $400 an hour to dick around with this.

My neighbor's 6 foot cement retaining with dirt piled to the top is about to fall on my house and I had to talk to 5 different lawyers before one of them was willing to even look at it.
 
2014-03-09 01:57:02 PM  
The fact that this person is considered celebrity enough that TMZ thinks they should cover him made me decide never to click a TMZ link again.
 
2014-03-09 02:07:27 PM  

Demiglace: Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?

Probably the same time that having "scalding hot coffee burning through flesh after a spill from a flimsy cup occurring in the passenger seat of a stationary vehicle" became "slight discomfort from some warm coffee spilling while driving along on the highway".


the original story had all the details, the guy was refused extra napkins and the "racial harassment" was the guy behind the counter said "you people" and by hearing the phrase you people the farktard is now so emotional scarred he is unable to work .  Its a money grab and the guy should go to prison for wasting the courts time
 
2014-03-09 02:07:56 PM  

ubermensch: The fact that this person is considered celebrity enough that TMZ thinks they should cover him made me decide never to click a TMZ link again.


I frowned upon that also.
 
2014-03-09 02:08:02 PM  
Jack in the Box better be able to give him all the e coli he wants and then some, or he'll sue the pants off 'em.

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2014-03-09 02:13:20 PM  
If this guy doesn't watch it, he'll be deemed a vexatious litigant and be stripped of his right to sue.
 
2014-03-09 02:13:37 PM  

armor helix: How do people find lawyers to take on these ridiculous cases?
Not only is a lawyer taking this case, but they must be doing it on commission - I doubt this guy has the money to pay an attorney $400 an hour to dick around with this.

My neighbor's 6 foot cement retaining with dirt piled to the top is about to fall on my house and I had to talk to 5 different lawyers before one of them was willing to even look at it.


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2014-03-09 02:20:07 PM  
What if they run out of fries?
 
2014-03-09 02:21:11 PM  

armor helix: How do people find lawyers to take on these ridiculous cases?


You're kidding, right? These sorts of cases grow over time because of unscrupulous lawyers. Don't you see those lawyer commercials on TV?

Here's the version that doesn't exist: "Hi, were you once in the general vicinity of something that happened that might have been bad and you may or may not have been harmed, but you want to sue everyone involved for a ton of money you don't deserve? Well, don't call me because I won't take your case, you lazy jackhole."
 
2014-03-09 02:28:57 PM  
Dude, if your emotional state is so fragile, just stay the hell home.
 
2014-03-09 02:43:13 PM  

buckler: Dude, if your emotional state is so fragile, just stay the hell home.


it looks like his home for the last 27 years was a jail cell after a PCP powered rape spree back in the 80s
 
2014-03-09 02:46:17 PM  

johncb76006: I like how he found his race card.  It would be nice if he wound up having to pay for all of McDonald's legal bills that they run up defending against his lawsuit.


This would be the best thing to do for tort reform. Sue anyone you wish but if you lose you pay their court bills. This would cut out a lot of frivolous suits/get rick quick schemes.

/CSB: Back when I was ill with the MRSA infection (the one that cost me my leg), the one thing I noticed was how people reacted. Middle class and up would ask how I was doing. The poor would, almost without fail, ask who I was suing. "I'd get some money off of somebody if that happened to me" was a commonly heard refrain.
 
2014-03-09 02:49:47 PM  

Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?


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2014-03-09 02:50:44 PM  

ramblinwreck: How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?  Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.


Corporations get sued for the acts of their employees and agents all the time.
 
2014-03-09 02:52:47 PM  

Babwa Wawa: ramblinwreck: How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?  Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.

Corporations get sued for the acts of their employees and agents all the time.


How long does that take? Because my employer is still insisting I wear pants.
 
2014-03-09 02:55:55 PM  

cardex: Demiglace: Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?

Probably the same time that having "scalding hot coffee burning through flesh after a spill from a flimsy cup occurring in the passenger seat of a stationary vehicle" became "slight discomfort from some warm coffee spilling while driving along on the highway".

the original story had all the details, the guy was refused extra napkins and the "racial harassment" was the guy behind the counter said "you people" and by hearing the phrase you people the farktard is now so emotional scarred he is unable to work .  Its a money grab and the guy should go to prison for wasting the courts time


Nobody here (so far) is arguing that the lawsuit isn't frivolous but that isn't stopping everybody and their dog from spinning this into something it isn't.

Case in point: the title of this very thread we are posting in.
 
2014-03-09 02:56:54 PM  

eyemarten: Notabunny: Jack In The Box has beef napkins?

No no no, beef curtains.


Cool. I should eat there more often.
 
2014-03-09 03:02:31 PM  

ImpendingCynic: armor helix: How do people find lawyers to take on these ridiculous cases?

You're kidding, right? These sorts of cases grow over time because of unscrupulous lawyers. Don't you see those lawyer commercials on TV?


I think the reason for all of those unscrupulous lawyers is the huge demand for lawsuits by unscrupulous law suit happy asshats.  If it wasn't for the hugely popular "it's never your fault, snowflake" attitude in America, people like Mr. Didn't-get-enough-napkins would be too ashamed to even think of trying to get a free ride for something so ridiculous.
 
2014-03-09 03:02:40 PM  

ramblinwreck: How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?


Um... using the very thoroughly-explored and well-defined set of laws outlining exactly to what degree companies are financially liable for the actions of employees acting in a capacity as a representative of the company, usually.  Its... kind of one of the biggest and most anally detailed branches of the law in pretty much every nation on the planet that  has any discernible laws.

While, again, way detailed branch of regulation and my specialty law-wise is property and capital management law/rent law, not fast food, if the employee being sued over is the actual on-site manager instead of a peon, pretty much anything he does that isn't explicitly forbidden by his contract in no uncertain terms can easily fall on the company liability-wise.  This is one of the reasons that contracts are so absurdly detailed in employment law and you keep getting addenda shoved at you.

In terms of civil action, you can even sometimes be regarded as a legit acting company rep for this purpose even if you  are explicitly forbidden to do something by contract, if it's determined that you were acting in what you believed to be good faith on behalf of the company.

I mean... doesn't really apply here with unsubstantiated he said/she said crap, this was pretty clearly a frivolous action in search of a settlement (probably barely under the line of being  literally frivolous, in the plaintiff's attourney getting a contempt citation or license up for review sense).  But if you're thinking "I'm just an employee, I'm safe because the corporation will cover whatever farkery I want to engage in" or "I'd better watch my step, because the company might dump liability for something on me"... well, neither of those things are generally true.  There  are rules, well-defined and established rules, and also read your contract, yo.

Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.

I wholeheartedly agree with you there.  Though, remember, this wasn't a criminal trial under "reasonable doubt", most civil actions are preponderance of evidence so there's a lot more leeway for patiently listening to crazy and trying to talk it down instead of just booting crazy for wastin' your time.

armor helix: My neighbor's 6 foot cement retaining with dirt piled to the top is about to fall on my house and I had to talk to 5 different lawyers before one of them was willing to even look at it.


Again, not actually in my professional training bailiwick, but I think I actually know the answer to that one:

In most states, if it doesn't cross onto your property it's almost impossible to force someone to take action on things.  This is the problem that HOAs were initially ostensibly created to solve.

// I say "ostensibly" because the actual reasons for HOAs were often pretty clearly about letting only the whitest of people in.  But the actual, out-loud logic they were willing to admit to was basically that they needed some grounds to keep people from doing things like what you're describing.
 
2014-03-09 03:08:55 PM  

Notabunny: Babwa Wawa: ramblinwreck: How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?  Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.

Corporations get sued for the acts of their employees and agents all the time.

How long does that take? Because my employer is still insisting I wear pants.


Wear pants?!?  Sue the bastiges!
 
2014-03-09 03:14:18 PM  
If Big Business was as evil and soulless as portrayed in the movies and on TV, this guy and his family would have been assassinated by a squad of corporate hit men and their home burned to the ground pour encourager les autres  long before things got to this point.
 
2014-03-09 03:16:19 PM  

ImpendingCynic: armor helix: How do people find lawyers to take on these ridiculous cases?

You're kidding, right? These sorts of cases grow over time because of unscrupulous lawyers. Don't you see those lawyer commercials on TV?

Here's the version that doesn't exist: "Hi, were you once in the general vicinity of something that happened that might have been bad and you may or may not have been harmed, but you want to sue everyone involved for a ton of money you don't deserve? Well, don't call me because I won't take your case, you lazy jackhole."


Not kidding.

Those commercials you're referring to, from my experience, fall into three categories.
1) personal injury cases
2) Mesothelioma
3) side effects from prescription drugs.

In my experience, finding lawyers to deal with less common issues is difficult and expensive. Hence my question about finding lawyers to take on ridiculous cases on a commission.
 
2014-03-09 03:31:24 PM  
If Obama had a daddy would he look and act like this guy?
 
2014-03-09 03:31:48 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: ramblinwreck: Starshines: When did "suing McDonalds for alleged racial harassment by one of their employees" turn into "suing McDonalds for not giving enough napkins"?

How exactly do you sue a corporation for the acts of an individual employee unless it was corporate policy?  Was the conversation recorded?  No?  Dismiss it due to lack of evidence.

/Because, they know that giant corporations will pay you STFU and GBTW money to just go away to make you STFU and quit making them look bad. Its all about image.


Thats exactly what he wants isn't it? Or do you think he's really suing because he's a crusader for the people?
 
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