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(Mother Nature Network)   Congress has approved 32,500 acres of land along the Lake Michigan shoreline as the first new protected "wilderness area" in five years. If pictures are any indication, they made a good choice   (mnn.com) divider line 127
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2014-03-09 11:13:27 AM  
The U.S. congress?
How uncharacteristically productive and sensical of them
 
2014-03-09 11:17:37 AM  
I thought Sleeping Bear was already protected.
 
2014-03-09 11:22:58 AM  

cantsleep: I thought Sleeping Bear was already protected.


Yeah.  It's been a National Lakeshore for forty years.  What additional protection is caused by making it a "wilderness area"?

Here's a sand dune cliff. If you slide down, you're gonna have a hell of a time getting back up.
techalive.mtu.edu
 
2014-03-09 11:24:21 AM  
\o/
 
2014-03-09 11:25:31 AM  
Shut up,  meg.
 
2014-03-09 11:25:53 AM  
Congress did something?
 
2014-03-09 11:27:18 AM  
Could use a few drilling rigs
 
2014-03-09 11:28:20 AM  
A bill making it past both House and Senate sounds like a wonderful thing but sadly I could imagine the president handing it to the secret service man next to him and saying "Have this searched for bombs and poison pills. I don't trust this one little bit."

And with this House and Senate, he'd be wise to do so.
 
2014-03-09 11:30:11 AM  

MBooda: Yeah.  It's been a National Lakeshore for forty years.  What additional protection is caused by making it a "wilderness area"?


So they can keep ATV's out? I'm not sure if these are the same dunes my friends go off-roading at.
 
2014-03-09 11:30:42 AM  
One of the 'big things to do' at Sleeping Bear Dunes is the Dune Climb. Huge ass dune that takes a long time to climb up.  Pretty neat.  However, if you have a couple of hours and lots of water you can hike all the way to the Lake Michigan shoreline.

It's awesome, so few people do it it's like you have an entire beach to yourself.
 
2014-03-09 11:31:46 AM  

TinyFist: Shut up,  meg.


I will end you.
 
2014-03-09 11:32:06 AM  
With that much room visitors won't really mind if we frack a few gas wells in there.     A few hundred trucks in that wilderness won't bug anyone.
 
2014-03-09 11:32:48 AM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: MBooda: Yeah.  It's been a National Lakeshore for forty years.  What additional protection is caused by making it a "wilderness area"?

So they can keep ATV's out? I'm not sure if these are the same dunes my friends go off-roading at.


It may be a step along the way to becoming a national park or something, but I'm not 100% sure of the procedures.

I follow them on Facebook, it looks like a gorgeous place and I'd love to visit someday.

/follow many national parks
//my feed is much prettier than yours :P
 
2014-03-09 11:33:53 AM  
Monday Fark Headline:

"Boehner introduces legislation to allow fracking in federally-protected wilderness areas, in GOP's tireless job-creation quest"
 
2014-03-09 11:35:42 AM  
I'm glad they did since Indiana crapped all over their shore line. Illinois's is built up with residential and Chicago, Michigan has kept theirs mostly natural and Indiana sits in between polluting the whole mess with the steel industry and BP refinery.
 
2014-03-09 11:35:46 AM  
Good. Now they need a law to keep those assholes in Wisconsin from dumping their sewage overflow into the lake.
 
2014-03-09 11:36:01 AM  
Patty Murry has been trying to do that here in Wa. by the name of "Wild Olympics ". None of the local people are for it, just the tree huggers in Seattle. The problem with forest land left unmanaged to go back natural is that it becomes a flammable liability. Huh, kind of like the government.
 
2014-03-09 11:36:07 AM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: A bill making it past both House and Senate sounds like a wonderful thing but sadly I could imagine the president handing it to the secret service man next to him and saying "Have this searched for bombs and poison pills. I don't trust this one little bit."

And with this House and Senate, he'd be wise to do so.


I'm just surprised that the House passed this bill unanimously (Steve King from Iowa must have been away).
 
2014-03-09 11:36:22 AM  

MBooda: cantsleep: I thought Sleeping Bear was already protected.

Yeah.  It's been a National Lakeshore for forty years.  What additional protection is caused by making it a "wilderness area"?

Here's a sand dune cliff. If you slide down, you're gonna have a hell of a time getting back up.
[techalive.mtu.edu image 592x752]


According to Wikipedia:

In the United States, a Wilderness Area is an area of federal land set aside by an act of Congress. Human activities in wilderness areas are restricted to scientific study and non-mechanized recreation; horses are permitted but motorized vehicles and equipment are not.
 
2014-03-09 11:38:48 AM  
It's a beautiful shoreline in a state rich with beautiful shorelines and I'm glad it will now be protected forever,that being said,the most beautiful shoreline in Michigan is the Lake Superior shoreline in the Keweenaw Peninsula.
 
2014-03-09 11:39:19 AM  
Camping on the dunes should be a requirement for everyone's childhood.
 
2014-03-09 11:39:49 AM  
How will the poor developers make any money and supply us with jerbs if they cant build condo's and shiat there?


/You just know at some point in the process someone said it.
 
2014-03-09 11:40:36 AM  

MBooda: cantsleep: I thought Sleeping Bear was already protected.

Yeah.  It's been a National Lakeshore for forty years.  What additional protection is caused by making it a "wilderness area"?


Bumps it up from IUCN protected area category III to category I.  Limits human visitation and development by a much stricter degree.  Only half of the current National Lakeshore area is being turned into Wilderness Area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUCN_protected_area_categories

Truthfully, I don't know what changes it makes to enforcement, but in theory the 32,500 acres will be better-protected thanks to the change in terminology and classification.
 
2014-03-09 11:40:50 AM  

ladyfortuna: antidisestablishmentarianism: MBooda: Yeah.  It's been a National Lakeshore for forty years.  What additional protection is caused by making it a "wilderness area"?

So they can keep ATV's out? I'm not sure if these are the same dunes my friends go off-roading at.

It may be a step along the way to becoming a national park or something, but I'm not 100% sure of the procedures.

I follow them on Facebook, it looks like a gorgeous place and I'd love to visit someday.

/follow many national parks
//my feed is much prettier than yours :P


The National Lakeshores are already part of the National Park system. They are all run by the National Park Service, but they tend to have far fewer Park Rangers and administrative staff on-hand, and are set up more to preserve the natrual scenery than to promote tourism.
 
2014-03-09 11:44:46 AM  

megarian: Camping on the dunes should be a requirement for everyone's childhood.


It's this time of year when I have an "Oh shiat!" moment and try to reserve a cabin at one of the MI parks with dunes. Then I find out they're already booked into fall.

We live down the road from Warren Dunes at least.

Sleeping Bear is a national treasure, glad to see this legislation happen.
 
2014-03-09 11:45:09 AM  

megarian: TinyFist: Shut up,  meg.

I will end you.


I don't think you've got the gravely voice and disheveled beard you'd need to pull off Robin William's "Good Will Hunting" quotes, but I'm willing to give it a go...

It's not your fault.

Listen to me, it's not your fault.
 
2014-03-09 11:46:07 AM  
The Pierce Stocking road runs through the dunes area now- are they going to shut that down?  That would be too bad.

Anyway, I can't speak highly enough of the whole Leelanau County/Leland/Traverse City area.  Take some time to go there during the summer if you have never been up that way.  It's gorgeous country.  Also, there are wineries and fudge.
 
2014-03-09 11:49:01 AM  
Well, there goes that idea of putting up wind generation towers.
 
2014-03-09 11:50:35 AM  
Michigan is more than Detroit
 
2014-03-09 11:50:50 AM  

Jimmysolson: Well, there goes that idea of putting up wind

powered electricity generation towers.

FTFM
 
2014-03-09 11:51:28 AM  

TinyFist: megarian: TinyFist: Shut up,  meg.

I will end you.

I don't think you've got the gravely voice and disheveled beard you'd need to pull off Robin William's "Good Will Hunting" quotes, but I'm willing to give it a go...

It's not your fault.

Listen to me, it's not your fault.


I WAS QUOTING THE CAT YELLER.

JUMP!
 
2014-03-09 11:51:42 AM  
Those pictures make me want to go there with a six pack and find a nice place to kick back and rub one out.
 
2014-03-09 11:52:57 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: The Pierce Stocking road runs through the dunes area now- are they going to shut that down?  That would be too bad.

Anyway, I can't speak highly enough of the whole Leelanau County/Leland/Traverse City area.  Take some time to go there during the summer if you have never been up that way.  It's gorgeous country.  Also, there are wineries and fudge.


And loads of great micro breweries too. I've honestly never been anywhere more all-around pleasant than northern Michigan in the summer time.

/and no where less pleasant than lower Michigan in the winter
//it's a trade-off
 
2014-03-09 11:57:27 AM  

megarian: TinyFist: 
I WAS QUOTING THE CAT YELLER.

JUMP!


Wow. That, was pretty much the worst three minutes of my life. Ugh.
 
2014-03-09 11:58:31 AM  

Fizpez: How will the poor developers make any money and supply us with jerbs if they cant build condo's and shiat there?


/You just know at some point in the process someone said it.


I think for this one time, I doubt it.  Sand is terrible to try to build anything on.  Besides, Michigan has a history with trying to build towns close to dunes.
 
2014-03-09 11:59:20 AM  
Michigan's shorelines are gawd awful beautiful.

Please ignore that fact and go to Jersey, Hawaii and Cancun
 
2014-03-09 12:00:51 PM  
Love the bear dunes.  The climb and the scene is awesome.
 
2014-03-09 12:04:45 PM  

kukukupo: Love the bear dunes.  The climb and the scene is awesome.


The scene, yes.  As a fat guy that attempted to bring 30 lbs of camera crap up the dune, I can say the climb is less than comfortable.  So yes, I am in fact fat AND stupid.

/and it took me days to get all the sand out of my gear
 
2014-03-09 12:06:08 PM  
Guess people in Michigan will have to come to Indiana to have fun in the sand dunes now
ls1tech.com
 
2014-03-09 12:10:01 PM  

ransack.: Guess people in Michigan will have to come to Indiana to have fun in the sand dunes now
[ls1tech.com image 300x205]


Michigan still has plenty of dunes.  We can easily lose 32,500 acres and still have redneck motor-fun.
 
2014-03-09 12:12:26 PM  

Shadowknight: kukukupo: Love the bear dunes.  The climb and the scene is awesome.

The scene, yes.  As a fat guy that attempted to bring 30 lbs of camera crap up the dune, I can say the climb is less than comfortable.  So yes, I am in fact fat AND stupid.

/and it took me days to get all the sand out of my gear


It's not unusual for people to have to be rescued by helicopter from the bottom of the dunes,their height is deceptive from above and lots of people have that "oh shiat" moment when they get to the bottom and look back up.
 
2014-03-09 12:13:08 PM  

ransack.: Guess people in Michigan will have to come to Indiana to have fun in the sand dunes now
[ls1tech.com image 300x205]


Nope, we just head over to one of the other ones -- Silver Lake State Park, for example...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-09 12:16:01 PM  

TinyFist: megarian: TinyFist: 
I WAS QUOTING THE CAT YELLER.

JUMP!

Wow. That, was pretty much the worst three minutes of my life. Ugh.


That's what I'm here for.
 
2014-03-09 12:16:34 PM  

Shadowknight: ransack.: Guess people in Michigan will have to come to Indiana to have fun in the sand dunes now
[ls1tech.com image 300x205]

Michigan still has plenty of dunes.  We can easily lose 32,500 acres and still have redneck motor-fun.


In the Detroit news article they linked to in this one they said nothing will change with the park itself.

"The legislation will mean about 32,500 acres of land and inland water, about 46 percent of Sleeping Bear Dunes, will be treated as "wilderness" areas to ensure its natural features will be preserved. County roads, historical structures and access to recreation and enjoyment of the lake will be protected, Benishek said, as well as the right to hunt and fish in wilderness areas."

" In 1981, the park's general management plan recommended more than 30,000 acres of the park as wilderness, and those lands have been managed as wilderness since.
The National Park Service later prepared a formal wilderness study and mapped 32,557 acres for wilderness. The legislation puts that designation into law."
 
2014-03-09 12:19:16 PM  

ransack.: Guess people in Michigan will have to come to Indiana to have fun in the sand dunes now
[ls1tech.com image 300x205]


 Cue the assholes with jet boats and ATVs.
 
2014-03-09 12:19:27 PM  
I live right by there.  Its a beautiful area and the national park campgrounds there are some of the best in the country.  Some of the backcountry sites are about a 1 mile hike in, you walk to the beach, and as far as you can see in every direction there is not a single house or building, its just unspoiled trees and beach.

You could never drive dune buggies there even before this designation, the rangers there do not fark around and you would be in serious trouble.  You can't even ride a mountain bike one inch off a designated trail, on the no wheel trails they won't even let you pull a wheeled cooler, you have to carry it.  I parked with a tire about 3 inches off the pavement on top of a fern once and got a very stern lecture from a ranger who then proceeded to try and fix the fern as best he could, not shiatting you.  It sounds ridiculous, but without enforcing strict rules that place would quickly go to shiat with the number of visitors.

I am not sure what the extra wilderness area designation means, but I am glad they are working to further protect this area, its worth a visit if you are ever around northern Michigan.  Just be careful on those steep dunes, DO NOT go down them unless you are in very good physical condition (like a serious cyclist or runner).  If you do go, don't go barefoot, bring water, and a hat.  If you need to get rescued plan on making payments on it for the next 10 years.  I have seen so many weekend warriors about die on that climb up and stupid farking people bring little kids down there then have to carry them in 100 degree heat.
 
2014-03-09 12:21:01 PM  

shastacola: It's not unusual for people to have to be rescued by helicopter from the bottom of the dunes,their height is deceptive from above and lots of people have that "oh shiat" moment when they get to the bottom and look back up.


Oh, I know.  It's just like the idiots that take their trucks out on the Saginaw Bay for ice fishing way too early or too late in the year.  Next thing you know, the Chevy is at the bottom of the lake and Billy Bob is being yanked off an ice flow by the Coast Guard.
 
2014-03-09 12:21:31 PM  
 "The measure was passed by the Senate last summer, so it now goes to the desk of President Obama, who is expected to sign it into law"

Apparently this snuck by Rafael Cruz and the rest of Wingtopia.
 
2014-03-09 12:24:37 PM  

Badmoodman: Apparently this snuck by Rafael Cruz and the rest of Wingtopia.


When I eventually open a chicken wing joint, I'm stealing using that name.
 
2014-03-09 12:26:16 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: /and nowhere less pleasant than lower Michigan in the winter


Tried the Upper Peninsula in the winter? If you're not into snowmobiling, skiing, hockey, snowshoeing, or snow shoveling in very rural settings, you'll get a tad bit miffed. There's a whole lot more civilization-type things and divided highways so you can get to those things in the lower peninsula, which helps a bit. It's beautiful in the U.P., but after the 43rd time removing 24" of snow from your driveway, you get a little tired of it and want to go somewhere else.

/escaped to Arizona
//might not have been the best choice, but it was available
 
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