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(Sydney Morning Herald)   Guess who gave this advice on how the US should handle Putin, ''Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.'' Go on, guess   (smh.com.au) divider line 88
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2014-03-09 09:18:02 AM
16 votes:

serpent_sky: Wow... they're dead set on starting World War 3, aren't they?


There's not one word that's come out of cpac that wasn't full on retarded.

Putting them all in one place to see how high the feedback squeal would go has been illuminating. There really is no limit.

Now it's time to padlock the doors and slap on a sign that reads "Insane Asylum".
2014-03-09 01:06:01 PM
7 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: AtlanticCoast63: Graffito: Mugato: Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate, has offered unsolicited advice
Her? Offering unsolicited advice? Teh hell you say!
/she's looking pretty rough these days

One might even say that she looks ... tired.

Well played, Graffito....well played.

As for myself, I should point out that although I'm NOT defending Sarah's words - even THINKING about nukes in a matter like this is beyond insane and deserves a biatchslapping of Biblical proportions - she is right to the extent that we are slowly dismantling the deterrent.  There has been a lot of talk about making the ICBM force go away, especially after the performance of the launch crews over the last few years.  The bomber force is now down to the B-2s and the B-52s (the B-1s are non-nuclear capable by treaty and can't be made so again without long refits) and the missile subs are due to be replaced in the late 2020s, but some of them may be decommed long before that due to maintenance and age issues.  Let's face it - there's going to be people who will try to pull things if they think they won't have to face the ultimate sanction.  This isn't one of those times, but it's possible.

How many nukes, exactly, do you think we need?  One for every major city in the world, plus ever minor one?


Seriously?

Let me give you a little background - I did six years as a weapons guy with a Strategic Air Command bomb wing, and another year with a unit in the Far East that may or may not still have nukes; I'm not sure so I'm not going to name it.  That was seven straight years of transporting and guarding them, and I HATE the goddamn things with a passion - I still have the occasional nightmare about them, and the last time I laid a hand on one was nearly thirty years ago.   We need enough - and I don't claim to be a strategic planner, so I can't tell you what that number is - to make sure that anyone else can't threaten us with their use without knowing that they will suffer just as much in return.  I'd love it if that number was less than a dozen, and I'd be even happier if they were all gone.

The Russians may be insane, but they're not crazy - the only way these days they'd ever launch would be if US tanks were physically on Russian territory, and even then they can't be sure their missiles will work, setting aside the fact that at most they have about 10% as many functional nuclear capable bombers as we do (and 'capable' doesn't necessarily mean they can get up and do it on short notice) and maybe about 350 ICBMs, all of whose reliability is at best, problematic.  And in any event, The only people who will draw down on us with a nuclear weapon are the Norks or the Iranians, and the Iranians only after they've laid the first one down on Tel Aviv.  The point here is that you have to have a few to deter the worst of the bad actors, and as long as we have bad actors, we need the damned bombs.
2014-03-09 12:49:21 PM
7 votes:

Techhell: They think that America can destroy Russia before Russia can launch their own nukes back. They also honestly don't care if Europe gets nuked since there is next to nothing that they get from Europe (that they know of) so there is no personal loss for them.


That's kind of the crux of the entire situation.  Conservatives seem to think that if Russia feared us, they wouldn't do these things.  The truth is, Russia is doing these things because they fear us.  In the last 20 years, their Eastern European buffer zone has almost disappeared.  Riga and Kiev are 1.5 hours flight from Moscow.  We are in military terms right on their door step.  Even without a missile shield, our first strike advantage is daunting and Russia knows it.  In expanding NATO and the EU so quickly, we've pushed Russia's backs against the wall.  Not that I oppose NATO expansion, but this is one of the consequences.
2014-03-09 10:37:46 AM
5 votes:
She's so farking stupid it's mind boggling.
2014-03-09 09:40:52 AM
5 votes:
She wants to get raptured before she needs another facelift.
2014-03-09 03:58:17 PM
4 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-03-09 01:19:02 PM
4 votes:

SlothB77: I'm glad the Democrats are here to show us how to treat women.


We make fun of her because everything that comes out of her mouth is batshiat pants on the head stupid.
2014-03-09 12:15:14 PM
4 votes:

sendtodave: We've grown so weak under liberals.


Yeah, like that tree hugger Obama who said he didn't care about finding the guy behind 9/11. Oh wait, that could have been someone else I was thinking of.
2014-03-09 01:27:44 PM
3 votes:

SlothB77: I'm glad the Democrats are here to show us how to treat women.


Yes, I'm feeding a troll, but I have to wonder how many people actually think people who criticize or oppose Palin do so on account of her being a woman, as opposed to pretending to think that so they can discount legitimate criticisms, or simply to troll.

But since you raise the point, the proper way to treat women is pretty much the same as the proper way to treat men.  And that means not handling them with kid gloves or putting them on pedestals.

But you knew that already, didn't you?
2014-03-09 12:21:19 PM
3 votes:

Death Whisper: At least she's willing to stand up to Putin, Obama's a castrated weasel who would rather appease him.


Stand up in what way?

Is Putin threatening to cancel her wilderness reality show?


It's easy to play armchair president. It's even easier to quit an elected position mid-term to become an attention whore.
2014-03-09 10:51:50 AM
3 votes:

Gdalescrboz: Mugato: serpent_sky: Wow... they're dead set on starting World War 3, aren't they?

Well we're long overdue. WWI and WWII were like a week apart and then nothing for almost 70 years. WTF?

I know, it's almost like nuclear deterrence works...which is exactly what she was saying


And what makes you say it is not working now?
2014-03-09 10:45:03 AM
3 votes:
Was it this guy?

www.donegaldollop.com
2014-03-09 09:46:46 AM
3 votes:

Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate, has offered unsolicited advice


Her? Offering unsolicited advice? Teh hell you say!


/she's looking pretty rough these days

2014-03-09 09:32:53 AM
3 votes:
John McCain's sh*t-dripping incontinent asshole
2014-03-09 09:08:17 AM
3 votes:
Wow... they're dead set on starting World War 3, aren't they?
2014-03-09 09:03:19 AM
3 votes:
IDK, my BFF, Jill?
2014-03-09 03:26:50 PM
2 votes:

Death Whisper: At least she's willing to stand up to Putin, Obama's a castrated weasel who would rather appease him.


It's a game right now.  What do you actually think Obama should do?  The response is pretty weak I suppose, but should we send in troops?  Should we position a carrier in the Black Sea poised to wage all out war to liberate Crimea?  Has the Ukraine government (such as it is) even asked for military assistance?

Why should Obama be the one to go full war-monger on this?  What about Europe?  They're a lot closer and are more directly affected since they have a lot more trade between themselves and Ukraine and Russia than we do.

The Ukraine's military looks small compared to Russia's, but bear in mind that if Ukraine wants to fight they can devote 100% of their military effort towards standing up to Russia and I have no doubt that they would get international support even if it's only covert.

Russia can't devote all of its military towards the Ukraine.  They've got other areas they're trying to keep under control.

Putin is the real loser here.  He's just digging himself a bigger whole with every misstep.
2014-03-09 02:53:36 PM
2 votes:

IamTomJoad: I am so glad republicans are around to make comments on how hot she is, cause what women really desire is to know that looks are considered more important than intelligence or experience.


She clearly lacks intelligence, her experience is also insignificant... looks are kind of all you can focus on with Palin.

When people speak about someone like Elizabeth Warren - her looks are never mentioned. It's her proposals, her meetings, her speeches.... it turns out you have to bring some intelligence to the table to have it discussed,
2014-03-09 01:38:10 PM
2 votes:
Way to miss the point of WarGames:

4closurefraud.org
2014-03-09 12:43:31 PM
2 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: She is right about that.  Mutually assured destruction is the only thing keeping North Korea and other rogue nations from lobbing their missiles. Sure, she comes off like an idiot from the way she presents things, but she is right about that.  A country is far less likely to shoot a missile if they know that they will get 100 back.


Except that no one, not even someone as marginally crazy as Putin is going to start a nuclear war. And certainly not over Russia taking over the Ukraine. So what she said was nonsensical.

And why the fark is the media still covering anything she says anyway?
2014-03-09 12:43:29 PM
2 votes:

Death Whisper: At least she's willing to stand up to Putin, Obama's a castrated weasel who would rather appease him.


Whether this is real or not, I don't know.  It's so hard to tell these days.  But if there's any waffling going on in these negotiations, it's from Europe.  Russia stands alone which means Putin speaks only for himself.  Obama has to herd the cats that make up NATO and they're the ones resistant to sanctions because they're the ones who will feel the repercussions most directly.
2014-03-09 12:31:35 PM
2 votes:

Death Whisper: At least she's willing to stand up to Putin, Obama's a castrated weasel who would rather appease him.


She only 'stands' up to Putin because she's not in charge. Put her in charge and she'd STFU and go cook a meal. It's easy to be a bad ass when you aren't the one in charge.
2014-03-09 12:29:48 PM
2 votes:
Why is Sarah scared of Putin? He's only practicing the Bush doctrine on the Ukraine. Whats the big deal? We set the precedent.
2014-03-09 12:01:49 PM
2 votes:

jeffjo52: Riche: Gosling: That woman could have been Vice President right now.

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More likely president. When you see pictures showing how fast presidents age due to the stress of the job...I seriously doubt McCain would still be around today.

President. Palin.  Think about that for a bit.

That or a Palin would have witnessed him having an "accident".

Palin is proof that the statement "If women ran the world there would be no war" is absolute bullshiat.


Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandhi, Golda Meir, Madeline Albright, Condoleezza Rice, Hillary Clinton,  Queen Elizabeth, Catherine the Great...
2014-03-09 11:38:43 AM
2 votes:
"Guess who gave this advice on how the US should handle Putin, ''Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.'' Go on, guess"

I'll bet it was  sendtodave.

I'm giving 2:1 odds.
2014-03-09 11:38:23 AM
2 votes:

Riche: Gosling: That woman could have been Vice President right now.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 296x267]

More likely president. When you see pictures showing how fast presidents age due to the stress of the job...I seriously doubt McCain would still be around today.

President. Palin.  Think about that for a bit.


That or a Palin would have witnessed him having an "accident".

Palin is proof that the statement "If women ran the world there would be no war" is absolute bullshiat.
2014-03-09 11:35:40 AM
2 votes:

SlothB77: I'm glad the Democrats are here to show us how to treat women.


The Moon Cannot Be Stolen

Ryokan, a Zen master, lived the simplest kind of life in a little hut at the foot of a mountain. One evening a thief visited the hut only to discover there was nothing to steal.
Ryokan returned and caught him. "You have come a long way to visit me," he told the prowler, "and you should not return empty-handed. Please take my clothes as a gift."
The thief was bewildered. He took the clothes and slunk away.
Ryoken sat naked, watching the moon. "Poor fellow," he mused, "I wish I could have given him this beautiful moon."
 i18.photobucket.com
2014-03-09 10:55:24 AM
2 votes:
Simplistic worldviews to comfort simplistic voters.
2014-03-09 10:54:01 AM
2 votes:

Mugato: Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate, has offered unsolicited advice
Her? Offering unsolicited advice? Teh hell you say!
/she's looking pretty rough these days


One might even say that she looks ... tired.
2014-03-09 10:40:20 AM
2 votes:
'Republican speaker says something stupid. Guess which one.'

Umm....could you narrow it down just a tad?
2014-03-09 10:38:33 AM
2 votes:
Hammurabi?
2014-03-09 10:21:16 AM
2 votes:

mutterfark: And 46% of voting Americans considered this woman to be VP/Presidential material in 2008.


FTFY
2014-03-09 10:12:12 AM
2 votes:
And 46% of Americans considered this woman to be VP/Presidential material in 2008.
2014-03-09 09:57:45 AM
2 votes:
How do you get that concentration of lunacy in one place and not have at least one person trying to be reasonable.  CPAC has become the latest incarnation of the Four Yorkshiremen sketch.
2014-03-09 09:53:26 AM
2 votes:

Mugato: Sarah Palin, 
/she's looking pretty rough these days


Yeah,
I would not watch her talk on Fox, I would not stick one in her box.
2014-03-10 08:39:53 PM
1 votes:

zepher: I'm always amused at all of the Palin hate yet Biden gets a pass.

/your bias is showing.


What's the knock on Biden?

/did he quit as governor too?
2014-03-10 01:48:41 AM
1 votes:

People_are_Idiots: I will say despite the levels of crazy, she's better looking than Hillary "Pruneface" Clinton. Not by a lot though.


It's like being almost twenty years older ages you or something. Hillary is old enough to be Palin's mother.
2014-03-09 09:46:39 PM
1 votes:
She can't be this stupid can she?

She says these things for shock value right,  like Howard Stern does?

Right?  I hope..

/knows her audience
2014-03-09 05:24:40 PM
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: freetomato: WTFDYW: Death Whisper: At least she's willing to stand up to Putin, Obama's a castrated weasel who would rather appease him.

She only 'stands' up to Putin because she's not in charge. Put her in charge and she'd STFU and go cook a meal. It's easy to be a bad ass when you aren't the one in charge.

It's also easy to be a bad ass when you are not willing to enlist in the military, but are willing to toss other peoples kids into a meat grinder.

One of her boys is Army.
/She's still an idiot.


Army Reserve, served in Iraq. Call me cynical, but if we had (God forbid) a President Palin (I threw up in my mouth a little just typing that) I doubt he would see combat, not that I wish that on anyone.

I actually saw a "Sarah for President!" bumper sticker the other day. About drove off the road laughing.
2014-03-09 04:19:13 PM
1 votes:

steveGswine: Again, here's the speech transcript.


This is painful to read, but I will.  Okay, she starts with some rah rah about the Tea Party.  It's the kind of rhetoric I wouldn't even like if I supported the Tea Party, but okay she's just cheering her side.

Then she invokes, the military, young people and Ronald Reagan(zap).    Well, who can argue about the heroism of our military personnel?  And who doesn't agree that whether we like it or not, young people will shape the future?  And Ronald Reagan?  Well, he's apparently been canonized and forgiven of all his sins (like giving amnesty to a bunch of illegal aliens).  After all, he is single-handedly responsible for the reunification of Germany and the fall of the Soviet Union and all he had to do was tell them to tear down the wall.  (You'd think he had Roger Waters as an adviser or something).

Unlike Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan talked loudly and carried a small stick.

But back to Palin's gibberish.

An obligatory attack on Obamacare.  How could I not see that coming?

A bunch of words....meaningless words.

Invoke Reagan again (along with Friedman and Thatcher).  Okay.  I don't even have anything against any of those three, but they are well faded into the past by now and they are all DEAD, just like Palin's soul.

More words.

Praise Ted Cruz.  Brags about her ability to memorize Dr. Seuss books.

Okay, I'll admit her little Dr. Seuss twist where she changed the words to criticize the government was pretty good.  Not bad, Ms. Palin.  Whichever staffer wrote that for you should take your place at center stage.

Words, words, words...all meaningless.

Obamacare!  (again)

More words.

Something about Kerry, and Jimmy Carter even gets a shout out.

AL QAEDA!!!  (Obama isn't protecting us!!!!)

Obama bad, GOP and America good, something, something something....

Harry Reid.  More words....

A big long paragraph about Duck Dynasty (WTF?)

I can't read any more of this crap.  It ends with a lot more words.
2014-03-09 03:13:38 PM
1 votes:
Nuke Crimea to save Crimea!  Hell yeah!

I suspect most Ukrainians would say that's not the kind of help they need.

Or maybe nuke Moscow to save Ukraine?

Hmmmm.....okay, where do we go from there?  Okay, let's say we just nuke a small Soviet Russian city.  Does she really think Putin wouldn't retaliate?  Putin could pick a small city in Europe to obliterate and tell us the next ones will be headed towards London, Paris and Los Angeles.

I always thought Sarah Palin was stupid, but I didn't realize how dangerous she might actually have been if McCain had won and she was one heartbeat away from the presidency.
2014-03-09 03:11:12 PM
1 votes:

freetomato: WTFDYW: Death Whisper: At least she's willing to stand up to Putin, Obama's a castrated weasel who would rather appease him.

She only 'stands' up to Putin because she's not in charge. Put her in charge and she'd STFU and go cook a meal. It's easy to be a bad ass when you aren't the one in charge.

It's also easy to be a bad ass when you are not willing to enlist in the military, but are willing to toss other peoples kids into a meat grinder.


One of her boys is Army.
/She's still an idiot.
2014-03-09 02:57:06 PM
1 votes:
I might add that I am NOT in favor of disarmament.

AtlanticCoast63: Seriously?

Let me give you a little background - I did six years as a weapons guy with a Strategic Air Command bomb wing, and another year with a unit in the Far East that may or may not still have nukes; I'm not sure so I'm not going to name it. That was seven straight years of transporting and guarding them, and I HATE the goddamn things with a passion - I still have the occasional nightmare about them, and the last time I laid a hand on one was nearly thirty years ago. We need enough - and I don't claim to be a strategic planner, so I can't tell you what that number is - to make sure that anyone else can't threaten us with their use without knowing that they will suffer just as much in return. I'd love it if that number was less than a dozen, and I'd be even happier if they were all gone.

....The point here is that you have to have a few to deter the worst of the bad actors, and as long as we have bad actors, we need the damned bombs.


Thank you.
2014-03-09 02:34:06 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: As the short bus libtards ignore that the Ukraine disarming under the promise of protection liberal democrat presidents is what made Ukraine a weak target.


The promises are not what you imply. You are either incorrect or lying. Knowing you it's a 50-50 proposition, given that you are both dumb and dishonest.
2014-03-09 01:10:42 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: sendtodave: We've grown so weak under liberals.

Yeah, like that tree hugger Obama who said he didn't care about finding the guy behind 9/11. Oh wait, that could have been someone else I was thinking of.


Nothing beefs up your military like decade-long ill-conceived wars costing trillions of dollars.  That's how you grow big and strong.
2014-03-09 01:04:28 PM
1 votes:

Coming on a Bicycle: Graffito: Coming on a Bicycle: Ok. But it doesn't really do anything to diminish the way that Obama *has* royally farked up with Putin. Twice now.

How so?

Twice now, Obama has said 'to here and no further' to Putin. The first time (Syria) he just didn't follow through; this time it looks like he simply has no way to follow through. He should learn when to speak and when not to speak, because this is the sort of thing (the 'red line' thing) that you can only use sparingly, and then only when you have the possibility, the means and the guts to actually do something.


Yeah, because Presidents who use military action at the drop of a hat really stop Putin from invading his neighbors. Just ask the Georgians.
2014-03-09 01:02:06 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: Techhell: They think that America can destroy Russia before Russia can launch their own nukes back. They also honestly don't care if Europe gets nuked since there is next to nothing that they get from Europe (that they know of) so there is no personal loss for them.

That's kind of the crux of the entire situation.  Conservatives seem to think that if Russia feared us, they wouldn't do these things.  The truth is, Russia is doing these things because they fear us.  In the last 20 years, their Eastern European buffer zone has almost disappeared.  Riga and Kiev are 1.5 hours flight from Moscow.  We are in military terms right on their door step.  Even without a missile shield, our first strike advantage is daunting and Russia knows it.  In expanding NATO and the EU so quickly, we've pushed Russia's backs against the wall.  Not that I oppose NATO expansion, but this is one of the consequences.


This.

We also have an issue where Ukraine is just not that important to the West, and intrinsically important to Russian security.  So we have a scared weak Russia acting to defend something they view as an intrinsic interest and Western powers for whom the object of his aggression matters little.

I would find it very interesting to see if some clever diplomat couldn't find a way to turn this whole thing into an embarrassment for Russia by mobilizing support for a plebiscite in Chechnya.  Russia supports ethnic self-determination, doesn't it?
2014-03-09 12:59:43 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: Techhell: They think that America can destroy Russia before Russia can launch their own nukes back. They also honestly don't care if Europe gets nuked since there is next to nothing that they get from Europe (that they know of) so there is no personal loss for them.

That's kind of the crux of the entire situation.  Conservatives seem to think that if Russia feared us, they wouldn't do these things.  The truth is, Russia is doing these things because they fear us.  In the last 20 years, their Eastern European buffer zone has almost disappeared.  Riga and Kiev are 1.5 hours flight from Moscow.  We are in military terms right on their door step.  Even without a missile shield, our first strike advantage is daunting and Russia knows it.  In expanding NATO and the EU so quickly, we've pushed Russia's backs against the wall.  Not that I oppose NATO expansion, but this is one of the consequences.


Thank you. SO many people don't understand that. They also don't understand that before the collapse of the USSR invading Iraq could have easily gone into a global war. The US has ties now in so many old Eastern Block nations that Russia is worried about being encircled.
2014-03-09 12:44:30 PM
1 votes:

WTFDYW: Death Whisper: At least she's willing to stand up to Putin, Obama's a castrated weasel who would rather appease him.

She only 'stands' up to Putin because she's not in charge. Put her in charge and she'd STFU and go cook a meal. It's easy to be a bad ass when you aren't the one in charge.


It's also easy to be a bad ass when you are not willing to enlist in the military, but are willing to toss other peoples kids into a meat grinder.
2014-03-09 12:40:04 PM
1 votes:
kumquatwriter.files.wordpress.com
2014-03-09 12:39:24 PM
1 votes:
Little miss, little miss, little miss can't be wrong?
2014-03-09 12:37:01 PM
1 votes:

vygramul: don't think that's what she meant, either. But, then, she might believe Obama has rendered our strategic forces unable to act.


What exactly are we supposed to do? And why do we even give a fark about the Ukraine, except they produced Mila Kunis and Milla Jovovich?
2014-03-09 12:29:14 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: jso2897: Gdalescrboz: Mugato: serpent_sky: Wow... they're dead set on starting World War 3, aren't they?

Well we're long overdue. WWI and WWII were like a week apart and then nothing for almost 70 years. WTF?

I know, it's almost like nuclear deterrence works...which is exactly what she was saying

MMmmmyeeaahhh - see, the thing about nukes is - that "deterrence" thing only works up until the point you actually toss one at somebody who has some too.

I don't think that's what she meant. No one, not even Putin will get into a nuclear war over the farking Ukraine, Except maybe her.


We still have nukes, right?

Putin still invaded Ukraine, right?

I don't think that's what she meant, either. But, then, she might believe Obama has rendered our strategic forces unable to act.
2014-03-09 12:22:55 PM
1 votes:
I'm so glad she isn't a vice president right now. Dumb biatch. Only a fking I idiot would even suggest a nuclear weapon as a solution. I'm also looking at you iran!
2014-03-09 12:18:41 PM
1 votes:
Mitt Romney?
Pat Buchanan?
Pat Robertson?
Subby's Mom?
2014-03-09 12:10:05 PM
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Do these rightards think that Americans are radiation-proof???


They think that America can destroy Russia before Russia can launch their own nukes back. They also honestly don't care if Europe gets nuked since there is next to nothing that they get from Europe (that they know of) so there is no personal loss for them.

And if the radiation does get to America, they are quite sure that in a few days, maybe as long as a month, there will be treatment provided free to them if they need it.
2014-03-09 12:07:07 PM
1 votes:
I'm not saying Sarah Palin is insane, but Joffrey Baratheon called to tell her to tone it down a little.
2014-03-09 11:56:10 AM
1 votes:

sendtodave: CanisNoir: Red meat tossed out to the base at a political convention for the base? The hell you say!

Real Americans.


As opposed to those fake Americans? Meh. We're pretty hemmed into following Europes lead on this one so it's become a rhetorical dick waving contest. I seem to remember Obama leveling criticism of Bush policies that he gleefully embraced once he sat in the captians chair. Things look differently when your in the hot seat. This type of hyperbolic rhetoric is not unusual for either party to spout in the run up to an election.
2014-03-09 11:53:56 AM
1 votes:

bobothemagnificent: [img.fark.net image 233x216]


Hillary comparing Putin's takeover of Crimea to Hitler's takeover of Sudetenland shows her poor grasp of history, but comparing Obama's reaction to Putin to Chamberlain's reaction to Hitler is somehow spot-on?

I'd suggest that the cognitive dissonance should be palpable, but then I remembered that, odds are, conservatives can't actually tell us what Chamberlain did and with regards to what event.
2014-03-09 11:51:47 AM
1 votes:
Failing to show peace through strength has allowed some ''very, very, very bad dudes [to] gain ground'', said Ms Palin, who remains a darling of the far-right.


 Jesus.   She just doesn't know anything.  Is this really the best she could come up with?
2014-03-09 11:40:24 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: I'm glad the Democrats are here to show us how to treat women.


I am so glad republicans are around to make comments on how hot she is, cause what women really desire is to know that looks are considered more important than intelligence or experience.
2014-03-09 11:35:05 AM
1 votes:
mutterfark: And 46% of voting Americans considered this woman to be VP/Presidential material in 2008.

As opposed to the truly wise who considered these guys presidential material.

images.politico.com

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2014-03-09 11:33:19 AM
1 votes:

traylor: Ellen Ripley?


To be fair, it IS the only way to be sure.
2014-03-09 11:32:30 AM
1 votes:
I fondly remember the first five minutes when I first heard a woman was tagged as the VP running mate.  I was thinking, oh, maybe a strong role model for my daughters.  Then I learned a bit about her, then I heard her rabble rousing.  I hate extremists who can't even bother to try to understand the point of view of others.
2014-03-09 11:22:46 AM
1 votes:

Mugato: Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate, has offered unsolicited advice
Her? Offering unsolicited advice? Teh hell you say!
/she's looking pretty rough these days


Hate will do that to ya.
2014-03-09 11:15:05 AM
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furterfan: I think this is one thing that democrats and reasonable republicans can agree on

thank Fark that Palin is history


And Santa Clause, and the Easter Bunny...
2014-03-09 11:11:17 AM
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Soon Right Away: This is Obama's one chance for the Right to see him as a good guy. Then, next time they call him Hitler for feeding poor people or getting sick people medical treatment he can play this clip back, along with the footage of Moscow glowing green, and they'll love him again.


First thing I noted. She's implying that Obama is a "good guy"? WTF?
2014-03-09 11:09:44 AM
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You guys are all way off base. She was actually complimenting Obama. Obama is the "good guy with a nuke" that could stop Putin. Do you think Putin would listen to a word Obama says diplomatically if we didn't have nukes?
2014-03-09 11:03:36 AM
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Graffito: Mugato: Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate, has offered unsolicited advice
Her? Offering unsolicited advice? Teh hell you say!
/she's looking pretty rough these days

One might even say that she looks ... tired.


Well played, Graffito....well played.

As for myself, I should point out that although I'm NOT defending Sarah's words - even THINKING about nukes in a matter like this is beyond insane and deserves a biatchslapping of Biblical proportions - she is right to the extent that we are slowly dismantling the deterrent.  There has been a lot of talk about making the ICBM force go away, especially after the performance of the launch crews over the last few years.  The bomber force is now down to the B-2s and the B-52s (the B-1s are non-nuclear capable by treaty and can't be made so again without long refits) and the missile subs are due to be replaced in the late 2020s, but some of them may be decommed long before that due to maintenance and age issues.  Let's face it - there's going to be people who will try to pull things if they think they won't have to face the ultimate sanction.  This isn't one of those times, but it's possible.
2014-03-09 11:00:50 AM
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wxboy: My serious guess was Dick Cheney.


I thought Ted Nugent.
2014-03-09 11:00:46 AM
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Graffito: Coming on a Bicycle: Ok. But it doesn't really do anything to diminish the way that Obama *has* royally farked up with Putin. Twice now.

How so?


Twice now, Obama has said 'to here and no further' to Putin. The first time (Syria) he just didn't follow through; this time it looks like he simply has no way to follow through. He should learn when to speak and when not to speak, because this is the sort of thing (the 'red line' thing) that you can only use sparingly, and then only when you have the possibility, the means and the guts to actually do something.
2014-03-09 10:57:47 AM
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gnosis301: IDK, my BFF, Jill?


fc09.deviantart.net

/honest-to-god laughed out loud when I read that.  Bravo.
2014-03-09 10:57:37 AM
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Gdalescrboz: Mugato: serpent_sky: Wow... they're dead set on starting World War 3, aren't they?

Well we're long overdue. WWI and WWII were like a week apart and then nothing for almost 70 years. WTF?

I know, it's almost like nuclear deterrence works...which is exactly what she was saying


MMmmmyeeaahhh - see, the thing about nukes is - that "deterrence" thing only works up until the point you actually toss one at somebody who has some too.
2014-03-09 10:56:16 AM
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Well, by that reasoning we should all be glad someone in this world besides the US has nukes.
2014-03-09 10:55:51 AM
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The black dude from "Ghostbusters?"
2014-03-09 10:55:31 AM
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Ok. But it doesn't really do anything to diminish the way that Obama *has* royally farked up with Putin. Twice now.
2014-03-09 10:54:43 AM
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HawgWild: megarian: People that shouldn't be allowed to opperate any type of machinery more complicated than a toaster wanted her to be president.

She was in the running for vice president. Of an entire country.

Speak for yourself, sister ...


FTFM
2014-03-09 10:52:38 AM
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That stupid biatch should keep her pie hole shut. Nobody wants to hear about using tried and tested techniques on how to deal with nuke superpowers. We have a big red pen that we can draw big red lines with and a red phone that we can make stern phone calls with. Keep your conservatard warmongering to your yourself.
2014-03-09 10:49:38 AM
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People wanted her to be president.

She was in the running for vice president. Of an entire country.
2014-03-09 10:48:21 AM
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This one seems appropriate:

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2014-03-09 10:44:58 AM
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My serious guess was Dick Cheney.
2014-03-09 10:43:08 AM
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It's like her shiat is written by ex-cops weaned on Dirty Harry. "Very, very bad dudes" is cop oversell for how tough their job is, usually harassing the homeless and petty offenders. They are always "bad dudes".
2014-03-09 10:42:02 AM
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HawgWild: mutterfark: And 46% of voting Americans considered this woman to be VP/Presidential material in 2008.

FTFY


If that isn't a solid argument for mandatory/compulsory voting, I don't know what is.
2014-03-09 10:05:52 AM
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Englebert Slaptyback?
2014-03-09 10:00:21 AM
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grokca: Mugato: Sarah Palin,
/she's looking pretty rough these days

Yeah,
I would not watch her talk on Fox, I would not stick one in her box.


Well she never was "hot" like people say. I guess if you're grading on a curve like politicians, HR workers, gym teachers then okay.

So Republicans, still angry Obama won? Otherwise, McCain would have had a stroke his first week in office and we'd be living in a post nuclear dystopia by now. Road Warrior, Godzilla awoken, mass hysteria.
2014-03-09 10:00:16 AM
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El Guapo?
2014-03-09 09:59:21 AM
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Slut Bumwalla?
2014-03-09 09:01:58 AM
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Someone whose ancestors recently came down from the trees who wants to bask in the warm glow she'll see from her house?

[not to mention being downrange of any fallout]
 
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