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(BBC-US)   Missing Malaysia Airlines flight may have turned back, and four passenger names have been given to intelligence agencies   (bbc.com) divider line 217
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2014-03-09 11:15:05 AM  

Coach_J: The stolen and faked passport thing is really common place around the world.

Some countries (US, UK, Canada, Germany, etc.) are extraordinarily on top of passport security and control and others like Greece, Italy and Albania don't give two shiats about it...it's about 5,000th on their "things we care about list".

/found this out when we did an M&A of an Italian company
//35% of the worker documentation was stolen and forged
///mostly to evade taxes, BTW


It would be interesting to know if either of the stolen passports were used prior to this.  Presumably, the only way to check that is to get a travel history from the legitimate holders and check it against passport control history.

If they have been used often in the past (which is certainly possible, they wouldn't have been noticed this time but for the crash), that would to me suggest "not terrorism".
 
2014-03-09 11:16:28 AM  

nekom: ReutersAerospaceNews@ReutersAero
Prelim investigations into missing Malaysian plane are narrowing on possibility of mid-air disintegration - source


Yes, it's twitter, but it's Reuters.


wouldn't midair disintegration leave an enormous debris field?

/no snark -  serious question
 
2014-03-09 11:17:46 AM  
Why don't they give the intelligence agencies ALL the names of the people on the plane.   The names of the fake passports are sorta useless in finding out what the name of the person that used them is.  They should be giving them the photos or other descriptions of the people with fake passports.
 
2014-03-09 11:18:50 AM  

elvisaintdead: nekom: ReutersAerospaceNews@ReutersAero
Prelim investigations into missing Malaysian plane are narrowing on possibility of mid-air disintegration - source


Yes, it's twitter, but it's Reuters.

wouldn't midair disintegration leave an enormous debris field?

/no snark -  serious question


I would have thought so.  If it happened at FL350 though, that would scatter things considerably but you'd think planes would be seeing all manner of seats and other floating wreckage.  I don't think anything, mechanical or bomb, would be capable of vaporizing everything.
 
2014-03-09 11:20:00 AM  

EponymousCowHerd: cyberbenali: I took the last coordinates from the flight tracker at FlightAware. The flight left Kuala Lumpur and was last tracked at those coordinates. Ca Mau peninsula is where the oil slicks were seen, probably 45-60 mins of flight time away (+-600km) from the last known location.

The flightaware data has already been deemed useless. Last contact with radar was over the ocean.



Second that. Just looked at last flights, seem they all lose ADS-B right around the time the missing plane did, and don't pick it up again for quite some time. That starts to explain a lot of the confusion as to where the plane is.
 
2014-03-09 11:23:01 AM  
cdnl.complex.com
 
2014-03-09 11:24:06 AM  

italie: EponymousCowHerd: cyberbenali: I took the last coordinates from the flight tracker at FlightAware. The flight left Kuala Lumpur and was last tracked at those coordinates. Ca Mau peninsula is where the oil slicks were seen, probably 45-60 mins of flight time away (+-600km) from the last known location.

The flightaware data has already been deemed useless. Last contact with radar was over the ocean.


Second that. Just looked at last flights, seem they all lose ADS-B right around the time the missing plane did, and don't pick it up again for quite some time. That starts to explain a lot of the confusion as to where the plane is.


Only for people who think Flightaware is an authoritative source for airplane location data. The people leading the search have more information than Flightaware does
 
2014-03-09 11:29:31 AM  
I had a crazy take off a few days ago in krabi, Thailand and I was already uneasy about my remainder flights to get home. 4 more to go over the next 2 weeks.
Does the black box not have GPS or some sort of locator beacon?
 
2014-03-09 11:32:25 AM  
Still the worst movie I have ever sat through in its entirety.

iv1.lisimg.com

The freeze frame, jumping ending made it even more epic.

2.bp.blogspot.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfV3wPmyS_w
 
2014-03-09 11:32:40 AM  
When planes are at the edge of the range for radar and they bank, sometimes they provide a stronger return signal so the radar has a more accurate position.  This can make it look like a plane is turning back when it is only the radar just is getting a better fix on the plane.

There might be sats or ground stations that were listening to the data stream which should have GPS coordinates but if they weren't official sources, it might take a few days for that data to get out.  Also most of the data being sent by planes seems to be status reports of their toilets.
 
2014-03-09 11:32:47 AM  
Just a friendly fyi for you guys speculating.

This hull (9M-MRO)is the same hull that was involved in an incident on 09AUG2012.

During taxing at Shanghai this aircraft left a large section of it's starboard wing on another aircraft due to bad parking. The damage was considered severe and the aircraft was repaired.

This has to be the leading cause of the catastrophic failure at this point, as this is the only thing we have to go on.

Incident rundown here: http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=147571
 
2014-03-09 11:32:56 AM  
I just hope Hulk Hogan isn't responsible. He already caused 9/11, another one would just be too much
 
2014-03-09 11:37:19 AM  

You are Borg: Does the black box not have GPS or some sort of locator beacon?


Yes, the black box will transmitter that sends a local signal so it can be found above land or under water but sometimes it takes a while to find them under water.  The plane should have several other beacons and one of them should go off on a crash and they should have a GPS in them and transmit an ID locked to the plane.  Each life raft should also have one.  If they had been activated, they would have a position by now.
 
2014-03-09 11:40:56 AM  
If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.
 
2014-03-09 11:41:04 AM  
This is what happens when you start messing with time. (Daylight Savings Time)
 
2014-03-09 11:46:08 AM  

BravadoGT: If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.


You really think it is more likely to be a terrorist attack, with no claim of responsibility, than a bad repair on an aircraft that was severely damaged?
 
2014-03-09 11:49:02 AM  

Spacman: BravadoGT: If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.

You really think it is more likely to be a terrorist attack, with no claim of responsibility, than a bad repair on an aircraft that was severely damaged?


I don't see how a damaged wing could result in a failure that resulted in:
1) No mayday call.
2) Virtually no floating debris.

I don't think terrorism is an explanation either.
 
2014-03-09 11:53:38 AM  

DON.MAC: You are Borg: Does the black box not have GPS or some sort of locator beacon?

Yes, the black box will transmitter that sends a local signal so it can be found above land or under water but sometimes it takes a while to find them under water.  The plane should have several other beacons and one of them should go off on a crash and they should have a GPS in them and transmit an ID locked to the plane.  Each life raft should also have one.  If they had been activated, they would have a position by now.


Thanks!
 
2014-03-09 11:54:11 AM  

nekom: elvisaintdead: nekom: ReutersAerospaceNews@ReutersAero
Prelim investigations into missing Malaysian plane are narrowing on possibility of mid-air disintegration - source


Yes, it's twitter, but it's Reuters.

wouldn't midair disintegration leave an enormous debris field?

/no snark -  serious question

I would have thought so.  If it happened at FL350 though, that would scatter things considerably but you'd think planes would be seeing all manner of seats and other floating wreckage.  I don't think anything, mechanical or bomb, would be capable of vaporizing everything.


exactly.
and if it augured in, wouldn't there have been some sort of "oh shiat" message from the cockpit, and/or 200+ cell phones lighting up (service or not)?  which leads us back to the big go-boom and the debris field...

riding a fuselage for 5-6 mins all the way down to your absolute death is a certain hell unto itself.  *shudder*
 
2014-03-09 11:54:20 AM  
EponymousCowHerd:

AF447 hit the water intact. No mayday call. The crew were too busy trying to fly the thing. The absence of debris - so far - is odd but as many people have said, the ocean is a big place.
 
2014-03-09 11:54:42 AM  

EponymousCowHerd: Spacman: BravadoGT: If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.

You really think it is more likely to be a terrorist attack, with no claim of responsibility, than a bad repair on an aircraft that was severely damaged?

I don't see how a damaged wing could result in a failure that resulted in:
1) No mayday call.
2) Virtually no floating debris.

I don't think terrorism is an explanation either.


An aircraft ripping off a part of its wing and being repaired badly is, at the moment, the most likely scenario we have. Check out JAL123 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123  it is a great example of shoddy repairs leading to a catastrophic failure years down the line.
 
2014-03-09 11:56:50 AM  
Elvisaintdead:

From what I understand of AF447, it's quite possible that passebgers didn't even know they were doomed until they hit the water. They may have just thought they were in bad turbulence.
 
2014-03-09 11:57:17 AM  

Coach_J: The stolen and faked passport thing is really common place around the world.

Some countries (US, UK, Canada, Germany, etc.) are extraordinarily on top of passport security and control and others like Greece, Italy and Albania don't give two shiats about it...it's about 5,000th on their "things we care about list".

/found this out when we did an M&A of an Italian company
//35% of the worker documentation was stolen and forged
///mostly to evade taxes, BTW


Yeah, but, one was an Australian passport!  Isn't that a hot bead of extremism, beer drinking and snake biting (don't even mention the farking spiders).  Without proper security, he probably smuggled a sheila and a barbie on board, and that was all she wrote.
 
2014-03-09 12:02:41 PM  

Fissile: So we know  that at least 4 people were traveling with fake documents.  OK, how is it that we know, after the fact, that people were traveling with fake documents, but no one can seem to figure this out BEFORE they board the plane?


Because people are lazy.

/seriously.
 
2014-03-09 12:03:19 PM  

Purdue_Pete: Still the worst movie I have ever sat through in its entirety.

[iv1.lisimg.com image 500x375]

The freeze frame, jumping ending made it even more epic.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 259x194]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfV3wPmyS_w


It was stupid, with a stupid filling, covered with a nice stupid frosting and a stupid cherry on to top.  The guy in the yellow shirt, appears to be running in the most stupid way possible, to keep with the stupid theme of the movie.
 
2014-03-09 12:05:56 PM  
What if it was the four people with illegal passports plotting to hijack a plane and a badly repaired wing from almost 2 years ago struck down their chances at 72 virgins?

The universe has a way of course-correcting things.
 
2014-03-09 12:08:00 PM  

wxboy: Fissile: So we know  that at least 4 people were traveling with fake documents.  OK, how is it that we know, after the fact, that people were traveling with fake documents, but no one can seem to figure this out BEFORE they board the plane?

They found out about the first two by finding the people alive somewhere else.  If they discovered the other two in the same manner, well, it would be absolutely impossible to look up the millions of people who fly every day to see if they're existing somewhere other than the airport that day.


You missed the part where Interpol is dismayed because almost no one avails themselves of their database. The passports where reported stolen months before.
 
2014-03-09 12:12:02 PM  

SithLord: What if it was the four people with illegal passports plotting to hijack a plane and a badly repaired wing from almost 2 years ago struck down their chances at 72 virgins?

The universe has a way of course-correcting things.


Yeah, like that A380 that blew an engine trying to kill Austrians or Australians (I forget) because they are farked up people.
 
2014-03-09 12:13:49 PM  

cyberbenali: I took the last coordinates from the flight tracker at FlightAware. The flight left Kuala Lumpur and was last tracked at those coordinates. Ca Mau peninsula is where the oil slicks were seen, probably 45-60 mins of flight time away (+-600km) from the last known location.

[img.fark.net image 850x457]


Another report stated the slicks were seen ay Tho Chu, a group of islands in the Gulf of Thailand.
 
2014-03-09 12:14:02 PM  

Spacman: EponymousCowHerd: Spacman: BravadoGT: If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.

You really think it is more likely to be a terrorist attack, with no claim of responsibility, than a bad repair on an aircraft that was severely damaged?

I don't see how a damaged wing could result in a failure that resulted in:
1) No mayday call.
2) Virtually no floating debris.

I don't think terrorism is an explanation either.

An aircraft ripping off a part of its wing and being repaired badly is, at the moment, the most likely scenario we have. Check out JAL123 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123  it is a great example of shoddy repairs leading to a catastrophic failure years down the line.


If the wing had failed suddenly at 35,000 feet, the turbulence from the drop would have ripped the plane apart.  If the plane was sufficiently intact to prevent a lot of floating debris, it is hard to see how a wing failure could have prevented the pilots from activating a distress beacon at least.

Honestly, an EgyptAir 990-type scenario seems more likely.
 
2014-03-09 12:19:56 PM  

BravadoGT: If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.


You want it to be a terrorist attack to fit your political agenda. Stay classy
 
2014-03-09 12:22:23 PM  
elvisaintdead:
and if it augured in, wouldn't there have been some sort of "oh shiat" message from the cockpit, and/or 200+ cell phones lighting up (service or not)?  which leads us back to the big go-boom and the debris field...

riding a fuselage for 5-6 mins all the way down to your absolute death is a certain hell unto itself.  *shudder*


I'm sure that would be an inconceivable hell.  But don't assume they would necessarily have time for a distress message.  The priorities of flying are, in this order:  Aviate, navigate, communicate.  If you're fighting to regain control of a doomed aircraft, it may not be top priority to radio someone to let them know just how farked you are.  Like "Hey, air traffic control, we're boned.  Really boned.  You can't help us, but we thought we'd take the time to let you know we're like ROYALLY screwed here.  Over."
 
2014-03-09 12:24:15 PM  
EponymousCowHerd:

If the wing had failed suddenly at 35,000 feet, the turbulence from the drop would have ripped the plane apart.  If the plane was sufficiently intact to prevent a lot of floating debris, it is hard to see how a wing failure could have prevented the pilots from activating a distress beacon at least.

Honestly, an EgyptAir 990-type scenario seems more likely.


Right. What distress beacon are the pilots activating exactly? I have no idea where you got that info from.

The drill in an emergency is Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. In that order. In an emergency your primary responsibility is flying it, then figuring out where you are, a very far third is talking to people because, you know, they can't help you.

The automated beacons are switched on automatically by a more than 2.3g event (crash) or contact with water.

Pilots don't do that. They can squawk an emergency code if they have time, they don't activate shiat. It's automatic.
 
2014-03-09 12:26:06 PM  

Spacman: EponymousCowHerd: Spacman: BravadoGT: If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.

You really think it is more likely to be a terrorist attack, with no claim of responsibility, than a bad repair on an aircraft that was severely damaged?

I don't see how a damaged wing could result in a failure that resulted in:
1) No mayday call.
2) Virtually no floating debris.

I don't think terrorism is an explanation either.

An aircraft ripping off a part of its wing and being repaired badly is, at the moment, the most likely scenario we have. Check out JAL123 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123  it is a great example of shoddy repairs leading to a catastrophic failure years down the line.


I find that unlikely. First of all, I doubt it would lead to an entire loss of the wing, and the pilots would likely have had time to communicate, and possibly save the plane. Secondly, if it did lead to an immediate loss of an entire wing, that plane would have come down in pieces. This leads us to the debris field question. They knew about where the plane was and after 24 hours nothing? Except for possible reports of a door and tail piece.

Chances are that the plane was flown into the ocean relatively intact. Without time to radio a distress call, or the radios were disabled, or the pilots were disabled, or it was pilot suicide. Or it was a bungled hijacking. Or a successful hijacking and the plane is in NK.

The whole thing is just bizarre.
 
2014-03-09 12:34:20 PM  

Spacman: EponymousCowHerd:

If the wing had failed suddenly at 35,000 feet, the turbulence from the drop would have ripped the plane apart.  If the plane was sufficiently intact to prevent a lot of floating debris, it is hard to see how a wing failure could have prevented the pilots from activating a distress beacon at least.

Honestly, an EgyptAir 990-type scenario seems more likely.

Right. What distress beacon are the pilots activating exactly? I have no idea where you got that info from.

The drill in an emergency is Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. In that order. In an emergency your primary responsibility is flying it, then figuring out where you are, a very far third is talking to people because, you know, they can't help you.

The automated beacons are switched on automatically by a more than 2.3g event (crash) or contact with water.

Pilots don't do that. They can squawk an emergency code if they have time, they don't activate shiat. It's automatic.


My apologies if I made a slight error, but there are transponders that allow an emergency signal to be sent by the pilots.  That is one of the ways the pilots can send a discrete signal to indicate a hijacking.
 
2014-03-09 12:35:20 PM  
Just saw this on twitter.
Are we sure it went down over water?
 
2014-03-09 12:35:30 PM  

Spacman: Just a friendly fyi for you guys speculating.

This hull (9M-MRO)is the same hull that was involved in an incident on 09AUG2012.

During taxing at Shanghai this aircraft left a large section of it's starboard wing on another aircraft due to bad parking. The damage was considered severe and the aircraft was repaired.

This has to be the leading cause of the catastrophic failure at this point, as this is the only thing we have to go on.

Incident rundown here: http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=147571


So...the airplane equivalent of buying a used car with a salvage title, eh? This is very bad news for the unlucky passengers and crew that happened to be onboard when the "repairs" failed.

Good news for the rest of us, though. Nice, clear-cut explanation.
 
2014-03-09 12:36:42 PM  

powhound: Spacman: EponymousCowHerd: Spacman: BravadoGT: If it turns out to be a terrorist attack (and I think it will)--that would be a lot of dead Chinese at the hands of the Religion of Peace™ recently.

You really think it is more likely to be a terrorist attack, with no claim of responsibility, than a bad repair on an aircraft that was severely damaged?

I don't see how a damaged wing could result in a failure that resulted in:
1) No mayday call.
2) Virtually no floating debris.

I don't think terrorism is an explanation either.

An aircraft ripping off a part of its wing and being repaired badly is, at the moment, the most likely scenario we have. Check out JAL123 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123  it is a great example of shoddy repairs leading to a catastrophic failure years down the line.

I find that unlikely. First of all, I doubt it would lead to an entire loss of the wing, and the pilots would likely have had time to communicate, and possibly save the plane. Secondly, if it did lead to an immediate loss of an entire wing, that plane would have come down in pieces. This leads us to the debris field question. They knew about where the plane was and after 24 hours nothing? Except for possible reports of a door and tail piece.

Chances are that the plane was flown into the ocean relatively intact. Without time to radio a distress call, or the radios were disabled, or the pilots were disabled, or it was pilot suicide. Or it was a bungled hijacking. Or a successful hijacking and the plane is in NK.

The whole thing is just bizarre.


Some time in the next 18 months to two years a full, complete and comprehensive accident report by the NTSB (as the US will report as the country of manufacture of the aircraft) will come out.

Anything said before that is complete and utter bullshiat, you don't have the facts.
 
2014-03-09 12:36:48 PM  

EmmaLou: If it was terrorism, I'm guessing a group would've claimed it by now.


As I mentioned in another thread, planes have been blown up in the past without anyone claiming responsibility. Air India 182 was one example, but there are others on this list where the bombers were only identified through criminal investigations (and some which are still unsolved). Those may be examples of "wanting people dead" rather than "terrorism", but the end result is the same.
 
2014-03-09 12:40:12 PM  
Spacman:

Anything said before that is complete and utter bullshiat, you don't have the facts.

Neither do you, dumbass.
 
2014-03-09 12:41:09 PM  

EponymousCowHerd: italie: EponymousCowHerd: cyberbenali: I took the last coordinates from the flight tracker at FlightAware. The flight left Kuala Lumpur and was last tracked at those coordinates. Ca Mau peninsula is where the oil slicks were seen, probably 45-60 mins of flight time away (+-600km) from the last known location.

The flightaware data has already been deemed useless. Last contact with radar was over the ocean.


Second that. Just looked at last flights, seem they all lose ADS-B right around the time the missing plane did, and don't pick it up again for quite some time. That starts to explain a lot of the confusion as to where the plane is.

Only for people who think Flightaware is an authoritative source for airplane location data. The people leading the search have more information than Flightaware does



Nobody said anything about flightaware being the authoritative source. It ~is~ however using one of the same transmitted data types that the people leading the search would have. If every flight seems to loose ADS coverage in the same zone, chances are it isn't being picked up by anyone.

Chances are very high that the plane was just a radar blip waiting to be handed off to the next airspace controller....until it wasn't. Just because the plane is transmitting a ton of information, doesn't mean anyone is listening at any particular point and time.
 
2014-03-09 12:46:15 PM  

SurelyShirley: Just saw this on twitter.
Are we sure it went down over water?


That would have been one very off-course plane.
 
2014-03-09 12:49:44 PM  
"Terrorists... yeah that's the ticket. It was terroists."
- Boeing's PR Dept.
 
2014-03-09 12:53:09 PM  
Why is it still missing?  How hard can it be to send a search plane to the last place it wa seen on radar?
 
2014-03-09 12:53:51 PM  

EponymousCowHerd: Spacman: EponymousCowHerd:

If the wing had failed suddenly at 35,000 feet, the turbulence from the drop would have ripped the plane apart.  If the plane was sufficiently intact to prevent a lot of floating debris, it is hard to see how a wing failure could have prevented the pilots from activating a distress beacon at least.

Honestly, an EgyptAir 990-type scenario seems more likely.

Right. What distress beacon are the pilots activating exactly? I have no idea where you got that info from.

The drill in an emergency is Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. In that order. In an emergency your primary responsibility is flying it, then figuring out where you are, a very far third is talking to people because, you know, they can't help you.

The automated beacons are switched on automatically by a more than 2.3g event (crash) or contact with water.

Pilots don't do that. They can squawk an emergency code if they have time, they don't activate shiat. It's automatic.

My apologies if I made a slight error, but there are transponders that allow an emergency signal to be sent by the pilots.  That is one of the ways the pilots can send a discrete signal to indicate a hijacking.


You are right, you can reset your ident to a specific number, (we'll call it 5500 it isn't) well, since they didn't reset to 5500 they were not hijacked. They would have done it.

The facts are that they turned right from 012deg at FL350 to 040deg on a programmed maneuver. Less than 6 minutes later they were in the drink facing 333deg. No point speculating, it WILL be explained.
 
2014-03-09 12:57:19 PM  

BillArr: The more I hear about this the more I think that there was someone on that plane that the governments wanted dead.  There is no way with current technology that a major airliner can vanish without a trace...we can read a license plate from space, nobody is going to convince me that some lettered agency does not know exactly what happened to this plane.


Any agency capable of vanishing an entire aircraft to get rid of one guy is capable of vanishing that one guy in a much less newsworthy fashion.
 
2014-03-09 01:22:39 PM  
Plane is listed as Delayed.
 
2014-03-09 01:27:46 PM  

Spacman: EponymousCowHerd: Spacman: EponymousCowHerd:

If the wing had failed suddenly at 35,000 feet, the turbulence from the drop would have ripped the plane apart.  If the plane was sufficiently intact to prevent a lot of floating debris, it is hard to see how a wing failure could have prevented the pilots from activating a distress beacon at least.

Honestly, an EgyptAir 990-type scenario seems more likely.

Right. What distress beacon are the pilots activating exactly? I have no idea where you got that info from.

The drill in an emergency is Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. In that order. In an emergency your primary responsibility is flying it, then figuring out where you are, a very far third is talking to people because, you know, they can't help you.

The automated beacons are switched on automatically by a more than 2.3g event (crash) or contact with water.

Pilots don't do that. They can squawk an emergency code if they have time, they don't activate shiat. It's automatic.

My apologies if I made a slight error, but there are transponders that allow an emergency signal to be sent by the pilots.  That is one of the ways the pilots can send a discrete signal to indicate a hijacking.

You are right, you can reset your ident to a specific number, (we'll call it 5500 it isn't) well, since they didn't reset to 5500 they were not hijacked. They would have done it.

The facts are that they turned right from 012deg at FL350 to 040deg on a programmed maneuver. Less than 6 minutes later they were in the drink facing 333deg. No point speculating, it WILL be explained.


It's 7500
 
2014-03-09 01:29:53 PM  

BalugaJoe: Plane is listed as Delayed.


Yeah, it is. I get a tad choked up by that.

Despite the fact it is days late the aircraft will be considered to be delayed until the main wreckage and bodies are found and it becomes a hull loss/accident.

This is fairly common, Air France 447 was listed as delayed for almost 3 years.
 
2014-03-09 01:43:30 PM  

Spacman: BalugaJoe: Plane is listed as Delayed.

Yeah, it is. I get a tad choked up by that.

Despite the fact it is days late the aircraft will be considered to be delayed until the main wreckage and bodies are found and it becomes a hull loss/accident.

This is fairly common, Air France 447 was listed as delayed for almost 3 years.


It would be something if the plane just landed in Beijing about now and the passengers and crew acted as if it had been a normal flight.
 
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