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(BBC-US)   Missing Malaysia Airlines flight may have turned back, and four passenger names have been given to intelligence agencies   (bbc.com) divider line 218
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2014-03-09 01:16:54 AM
WaPo also saying that as many as four people on the flight had fake IDs.
 
2014-03-09 03:40:05 AM
Wow, were up to four now.
 
2014-03-09 04:07:28 AM
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2014-03-09 04:43:39 AM

violentsalvation: Wow, were up to four now.


... and back down to two
 
2014-03-09 05:53:45 AM
Turned back to WHERE!!?? Where are the transponders?

WHERE IS THE TELEMETRY??
 
2014-03-09 08:03:34 AM
Someone's having fun with the remote control joystick. Where's Cheney?
 
2014-03-09 08:09:18 AM
blog.chron.com
 
2014-03-09 08:11:49 AM
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lol, wut?
 
2014-03-09 08:13:52 AM
Sounds like the underwear bombers finally got their shiat together.
 
2014-03-09 08:14:32 AM

shower_in_my_socks: WaPo also saying that as many as four people on the flight had fake IDs.


There's an automatic assumption that these fake passport holders were terrorists.
 

It's a lot more likely they were illegal immigrants.  A whole lot more likely.  Maybe a million times more likely.  Some were even booked through all the way to Europe.

A fake passport, a little luck, welcome to Europe.
 
2014-03-09 08:16:20 AM
"Mr Hussein told a press conference that four names on the passenger list had been given to intelligence agencies to look at."

For future reference, please provide these names before  the plane takes off...thank you in advance.
 
2014-03-09 08:16:24 AM
The more I hear about this the more I think that there was someone on that plane that the governments wanted dead.  There is no way with current technology that a major airliner can vanish without a trace...we can read a license plate from space, nobody is going to convince me that some lettered agency does not know exactly what happened to this plane.
 
2014-03-09 08:17:35 AM
Did they forget the Columbian coffee?
 
2014-03-09 08:18:10 AM
I suspect that two fake IDs is about average on a flight in some parts of the world.
 
2014-03-09 08:19:57 AM

RandomRandom: shower_in_my_socks: WaPo also saying that as many as four people on the flight had fake IDs.

There's an automatic assumption that these fake passport holders were terrorists.
 

It's a lot more likely they were illegal immigrants.  A whole lot more likely.  Maybe a million times more likely.  Some were even booked through all the way to Europe.

A fake passport, a little luck, welcome to Europe.


I've been following this and the whole thing is weird. OMFG terrist is the automatic knee jerk response for some, but it does seem that the passports may have been stolen and used by people without proper travel documents. This has been known to happen.
 
2014-03-09 08:20:08 AM

Kittypie070: Turned back to WHERE!!?? Where are the transponders?

WHERE IS THE TELEMETRY??


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2014-03-09 08:20:14 AM
Welp, time for the TSA to ask for even more FREEDOM PAPERS at the airport.
 
2014-03-09 08:21:15 AM

pacochu: Did they forget the Columbian coffee?


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Disapproves
 
2014-03-09 08:23:40 AM
BillArr:
The more I hear about this the more I think that there was someone on that plane that the governments wanted dead.  There is no way with current technology that a major airliner can vanish without a trace...we can read a license plate from space, nobody is going to convince me that some lettered agency does not know exactly what happened to this plane.

While enticing, this hypothesis wildly fails on the grounds of too many unfounded assumptions.  It is much, much more likely that the aircraft had a technical failure and fell out of the sky into a big, big ocean.

After all... how many flights with multiple stolen-passport holders on board DON'T disappear?  We just don't ever hear about those ones.
 
2014-03-09 08:24:06 AM
Wow,  subbys headline has just as much info in it as the article does,  neat.

O_o
 
2014-03-09 08:24:10 AM

super_grass: Welp, time for the TSA to ask for even more FREEDOM PAPERS at the airport.


4.bp.blogspot.com
Papers? We don't need no stinking papers!
 
2014-03-09 08:24:46 AM
CNN article says the two passengers with the stolen Italian and Austrian passports had tickets that were bought together. They were to go from Beijing to Amsterdam then split up, going to Copenhagen and Frankfort.
 
2014-03-09 08:24:48 AM
http://news.163.com/14/0309/12/9MT5NSUU0001121M.html  (In Chinese) reporting that the Austrian and Italian phony passport people's ticket numbers were sequential, so I guess that means they bought them at the same time.
 
2014-03-09 08:26:43 AM

Maturin: CNN article says the two passengers with the stolen Italian and Austrian passports had tickets that were bought together. They were to go from Beijing to Amsterdam then split up, going to Copenhagen and Frankfort.


And...?
 
2014-03-09 08:26:59 AM

Maturin: CNN article says the two passengers with the stolen Italian and Austrian passports had tickets that were bought together. They were to go from Beijing to Amsterdam then split up, going to Copenhagen and Frankfort.


CNN picked that up now?  Also, that's a hell of a long way to get from Malaysia to western Europe.
 
2014-03-09 08:27:22 AM

RandomRandom: shower_in_my_socks: WaPo also saying that as many as four people on the flight had fake IDs.

There's an automatic assumption that these fake passport holders were terrorists.
 

It's a lot more likely they were illegal immigrants.  A whole lot more likely.  Maybe a million times more likely.  Some were even booked through all the way to Europe.

A fake passport, a little luck, welcome to Europe.


Well, those four had a little bad luck.
 
2014-03-09 08:28:58 AM
I'm seeing unconfirmed reports also that both passengers were no-shows and that their bags were either removed from the flight or there were no bags to load.  Lots of conflicting info out there.  It's quite possible this whole thing is just a red herring.
 
2014-03-09 08:29:05 AM

BillArr: The more I hear about this the more I think that there was someone on that plane that the governments wanted dead.  There is no way with current technology that a major airliner can vanish without a trace...we can read a license plate from space, nobody is going to convince me that some lettered agency does not know exactly what happened to this plane.


There is a trace. A big trace. Huge oil slick. Planes can absolutely just stop responding, if they explode or nosedive. Check out other crashes on wiki if you dont believe me. This really isn't that weird. Hell, it took days and days to find that air france crash site in the Atlantic and two years to find the black boxes.
 
2014-03-09 08:29:42 AM
They gave them four names?
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2014-03-09 08:30:25 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Kittypie070: Turned back to WHERE!!?? Where are the transponders?

WHERE IS THE TELEMETRY??


/thread
 
2014-03-09 08:35:12 AM
GladGirl:
There is a trace. A big trace. Huge oil slick. Planes can absolutely just stop responding, if they explode or nosedive. Check out other crashes on wiki if you dont believe me. This really isn't that weird. Hell, it took days and days to find that air france crash site in the Atlantic and two years to find the black boxes.

Some are saying that oil slick wasn't an oil slick.  This is much more shallow water than the Air France case, so assuming they locate the wreckage it won't be 2 years and they ought to be able to recover the CVR and FDR pretty quickly.  If it broke apart in mid air, there wouldn't be an oil slick, but there should be a scattered field of seats and other floating stuffs.
 
2014-03-09 08:35:38 AM

BillArr: The more I hear about this the more I think that there was someone on that plane that the governments wanted dead.  There is no way with current technology that a major airliner can vanish without a trace...we can read a license plate from space, nobody is going to convince me that some lettered agency does not know exactly what happened to this plane.


"nobody is going to convince me" is a pretty closed minded response.  That's exactly what the anti vaxxers, truthers, young worlders, climate change deniers, politically correct proponents and that trans woman whose name I forgot say;  "nobody is going to convince me"

Good for you.
 
2014-03-09 08:36:35 AM
 
2014-03-09 08:37:42 AM
Throw EVERYONE in Gitmo.
/everyone
 
2014-03-09 08:38:37 AM
What if it flew into anothrt dimension?
 
2014-03-09 08:38:50 AM

pacochu: Did they forget the Columbian coffee?


Colombia. No U. Columbia is an arcane term for America (ie Washington, District of Columbia)
 
2014-03-09 08:46:36 AM
They'll find the incriminating passports floating on the oil slick along with a red bandana.
 
2014-03-09 08:47:30 AM

JoieD'Zen: Maturin: CNN article says the two passengers with the stolen Italian and Austrian passports had tickets that were bought together. They were to go from Beijing to Amsterdam then split up, going to Copenhagen and Frankfort.

And...?


Terrorists are notoriously parsimonious (according to the PSA) and the best way to get a thigh massage from the PSA is to buy a one-way ticket. If these two were hijackers or smuggled a bomb aboard they would not be so extravagant.
 
2014-03-09 08:48:48 AM

nekom: Maturin: CNN article says the two passengers with the stolen Italian and Austrian passports had tickets that were bought together. They were to go from Beijing to Amsterdam then split up, going to Copenhagen and Frankfort.

CNN picked that up now?  Also, that's a hell of a long way to get from Malaysia to western Europe.


Not really, remember the earth is round and shortest route is close to poles, it's quite a normal route.
 
2014-03-09 08:49:18 AM

Deep Contact: They'll find the incriminating passports floating on the oil slick along with a red bandana.


What?
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-09 08:49:47 AM
There is a sale at Penny's!
 
2014-03-09 08:51:51 AM
bikkurikun:
Not really, remember the earth is round and shortest route is close to poles, it's quite a normal route.

Oh I didn't mean that flight's route was unusual, I mean why would one go from Kuala Lumpur to Frankfurt or Copenhagen by way of a connection in Beijing?  Wouldn't Lufthansa, Air France or KLM have a more direct route?  Of course it could be they were just the cheapest tickets they could find.  It remains entirely possible that these were just miscellaneous criminals, drug mules or illegal immigrants or whathaveyou, who had shiatty luck.
 
2014-03-09 08:56:34 AM
nekom:
Some are saying that oil slick wasn't an oil slick.  This is much more shallow water than the Air France case, so assuming they locate the wreckage it won't be 2 years and they ought to be able to recover the CVR and FDR pretty quickly.  If it broke apart in mid air, there wouldn't be an oil slick, but there should be a scattered field of seats and other floating stuffs.

That's what I was thinking.  If it exploded or crashed wouldn't there be loads of debris floating indicating a general area of entry instead of just oil.  It's been a few days and we hear everything from mechanical nose diving to terrorists landing it in another country. It's not like this was a twin engine puddle jumper either, a 777 shouldn't take too long to find especially if not in one piece. Strange.
 
2014-03-09 08:57:45 AM

susler: BillArr: The more I hear about this the more I think that there was someone on that plane that the governments wanted dead.  There is no way with current technology that a major airliner can vanish without a trace...we can read a license plate from space, nobody is going to convince me that some lettered agency does not know exactly what happened to this plane.

"nobody is going to convince me" is a pretty closed minded response.  That's exactly what the anti vaxxers, truthers, young worlders, climate change deniers, politically correct proponents and that trans woman whose name I forgot say;  "nobody is going to convince me"

Good for you.


It's amusing to watch threads get turned into liberal circle jerks and here is the first attempt in this thread.
 
2014-03-09 09:04:15 AM
Anyone on TV with Hussein in their name always has bad news. Especially everyone from Illinois such as Pat Hussein Quinn, Barak Hussein O'Bama (he's Irish now) and Derrick Hussein Rose.
 
2014-03-09 09:05:16 AM

coffeeplease: susler: BillArr: The more I hear about this the more I think that there was someone on that plane that the governments wanted dead.  There is no way with current technology that a major airliner can vanish without a trace...we can read a license plate from space, nobody is going to convince me that some lettered agency does not know exactly what happened to this plane.

"nobody is going to convince me" is a pretty closed minded response.  That's exactly what the anti vaxxers, truthers, young worlders, climate change deniers, politically correct proponents and that trans woman whose name I forgot say;  "nobody is going to convince me"

Good for you.

It's amusing to watch threads get turned into liberal circle jerks and here is the first attempt in this thread.


Dunno. That swipe against the trans community is going to cost him a few lib fair trade organic brownie points.
 
2014-03-09 09:05:54 AM

themunsterfullback: It's been a few days and we hear everything from mechanical nose diving to terrorists landing it in another country. It's not like this was a twin engine puddle jumper either, a 777 shouldn't take too long to find especially if not in one piece. Strange.


I HIGHLY doubt it was hijacked and landed somewhere.  This isn't a piper cub you can put down in a corn field then hide in the barn, you need at least a mile long runway.  Speculation is always fun and of course without it what's the purpose of having a thread on it, but we're probably ALL going to turn out to be wrong.  This is a plane with a great safety record that just disappeared at cruising, generally the last time during a flight you'd expect problems.  In perfect weather, with no signs of distress or witnesses of explosion.  Obviously SOMETHING went catastrophically wrong.  My money is on either a terrorist bomb or something very important broke off and sent it into an uncontrollable dive.
 
2014-03-09 09:10:07 AM
Is there any report of any anomaly in the area? I am suprised that no boat captain or pilot saw any thing. Isn't that area of the SCS fairly congested?
 
2014-03-09 09:11:11 AM
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2014-03-09 09:11:43 AM

nekom: My money is on either a terrorist bomb or something very important broke off and sent it into an uncontrollable dive.


Why can't these things crash into an orphanage full of blind kids, so at least we know what happened and don't have to do a sea search?
 
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