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(Wall Street Journal)   Democrats are going out of their way to make sure hungry people get food. And if we don't stop them now, they might do something even worse   (m.us.wsj.com) divider line 188
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2014-03-09 12:49:50 AM  
Better to have an empty stomach and full balls.  No, wait, it's a full soul and an empty brain.  Hold on, I remember something about a brown bag.
 
2014-03-09 01:00:57 AM  
Hollingsworth Hound approves of this headline.
 
2014-03-09 01:15:52 AM  
"classic liberal trick "

ROFL
 
2014-03-09 01:36:11 AM  
We're linking to the WSJ's opinion page now? Lovely. Why don't you just hook the derp up to my veins.
 
2014-03-09 01:40:26 AM  

fusillade762: We're linking to the WSJ's opinion page now? Lovely. Why don't you just hook the derp up to my veins.


I have rarely seen a publication so quickly and thoroughly gutted.
 
2014-03-09 01:49:27 AM  
Taxpayers now help foot the grocery bills for one of seven Americans.

GASP!  OH NO!  THAT'S TERRIBLE!
 
2014-03-09 01:53:39 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: fusillade762: We're linking to the WSJ's opinion page now? Lovely. Why don't you just hook the derp up to my veins.

I have rarely seen a publication so quickly and thoroughly gutted.


This. Since purchased by NewsCorp, the WSJ slid fast into right wing propaganda.

That's exactly what we expected, but still sad to watch.
 
2014-03-09 01:57:58 AM  
I read that article twice and I still didn't know how this scam works.   Here's a better article that explains it.

SNAP is a huge part of the farm bill they just passed:

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What I still can't figure out is why states did it in the first place.  These people already qualify for SNAP, the loophole was used to get them more money even though they weren't paying utility expenses.  Is it because the SNAP payments were too low to begin with?
 
2014-03-09 01:59:07 AM  
SNAP has been drastically cut in my part of rural NC. One of neighbors was unemployed when his factory moved to Asia. He received $200.00 per month for about 5 months, and then he was re-evaluated at the insistence of the state. His new SNAP allotment is $36.00 per month, which breaks down to roughly 40 cents per meal for a family of four, which means each of the members of that household are expected to survive on ten cents per meal. Dog food is literally more expensive than that.


/So bootstrappy.
 
2014-03-09 03:03:30 AM  
It's almost as though the way we've been doing things isn't working or something.
 
2014-03-09 03:08:55 AM  
Food is Marxist and therefore ungodly.
 
2014-03-09 03:15:00 AM  
All of the talk of "gaming the system" and "loopholes" and "scams" in editorials like this bothers me since it undermines the real problem which is that too many people actually need this kind of assistance.  Don't be such assholes.
 
2014-03-09 03:15:46 AM  
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2014-03-09 03:39:01 AM  

Solid State Vittles: Taxpayers now help foot the grocery bills for one of seven Americans.

GASP!  OH NO!  THAT'S TERRIBLE!


Perhaps if banks and agribusiness weren't getting subsidized to a greater degree, and market forces actually were exerted upon them to compete in a fair and equitable manner, then the WSJ might be able to point fingers at the "welfare state." This article is essentially complaint bitterly that the poors are not starving efficiently enough to accept serfdom in their projected ascended NeoFeudalism. Which is terrible in their minds...
 
2014-03-09 03:42:14 AM  

Rain-Monkey: God Is My Co-Pirate: fusillade762: We're linking to the WSJ's opinion page now? Lovely. Why don't you just hook the derp up to my veins.

I have rarely seen a publication so quickly and thoroughly gutted.

This. Since purchased by NewsCorp, the WSJ slid fast into right wing propaganda.

That's exactly what we expected, but still sad to watch.


Nah, their editorial page has been full of right-wing nuttery for ages. It may have accelerated under Murdoch but it's always been populated by kooks.
 
2014-03-09 03:43:51 AM  
"I can't feed these people, it would only cause dependency. And besides, it would cost too much."

Said no Jesus Christ ever.
 
2014-03-09 03:54:32 AM  

Lsherm: Is it because the SNAP payments were too low to begin with?


Yes.
 
2014-03-09 03:59:07 AM  
House Republicans sought to force modest food-stamp reforms such as work requirements

Doing what?? If there were more jobs available, many people wouldn't need food stamps.

Too bad Republicans don't give a shiat about creating jobs, and are instead focused on taking affordable health care insurance away from millions of Americans and keeping gays from marrying.
 
2014-03-09 04:38:13 AM  
He's angry.
 
2014-03-09 04:40:00 AM  
So... the GOP's "reform" of the Farm Bill included raising the Liheap requirements to 20$ thus taking 850,000 people off the automatic SNAP enrollment and saving the government a projected 8.6 Billion over 10 years. Until the Dems in CT raised the minimum payments to $20.01 thus keeping 50k people on the auto-SNAP thing.

And this according to some WSJ bobble-head is an outrage?

My only surprise here is that he didn't close with "and poor people should stop being poor".
 
2014-03-09 04:40:06 AM  
If we can go start two wars in the middle-east for bullshiat reasons with bullshiat victory conditions on a deficit, then we can make sure our own citizens are healthy and have enough to eat in their own farking country.

Lorelle: House Republicans sought to force modest food-stamp reforms such as work requirements

Doing what?? If there were more jobs available, many people wouldn't need food stamps.

Too bad Republicans don't give a shiat about creating jobs, and are instead focused on taking affordable health care insurance away from millions of Americans and keeping gays from marrying.


That's not true. They're also trying to redefine rape.
 
2014-03-09 04:43:27 AM  
A brown paper luncheon bag...for a brown colored homeless man...in the brown caaaaaaaardboard box
That he stole from a garbage man. In an alley full of garbage cans. To get riiiiiiiiiiid of itself

It wears us out...
It wears us out.

If we could buy what we wanted
If we could buy what we wanted all the time
All the time...
All the time.
 
2014-03-09 04:45:44 AM  

Rain-Monkey: God Is My Co-Pirate: fusillade762: We're linking to the WSJ's opinion page now? Lovely. Why don't you just hook the derp up to my veins.

I have rarely seen a publication so quickly and thoroughly gutted.

This. Since purchased by NewsCorp, the WSJ slid fast into right wing propaganda.

That's exactly what we expected, but still sad to watch.


I can tell  you that the WSJ op-ed page has been full-bore derp since at least 1986, when I first came into contact with it.  They were "screw the poor, starving builds character" way, way, way before Murdoch came along.  I remember my first contact with WSJ...I was overwhelmed with how good the writing was, how informative and entertaining and illuminating, and then I got to the op-ed page, and it was like somebody had stuck in something completely different as a joke.
 
2014-03-09 04:46:00 AM  
Food is an invention of Satan.
 
2014-03-09 04:46:54 AM  
FTA: "They receive this deduction regardless of how much they spend on energy. Many renters don't pay a dime."

"Utilities included" doesn't mean landlords absorb the utility costs out of the goodness of their hearts. It's built into the rent, you ninny!
 
2014-03-09 04:58:11 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: fusillade762: We're linking to the WSJ's opinion page now? Lovely. Why don't you just hook the derp up to my veins.

I have rarely seen a publication so quickly and thoroughly gutted.


The hilarious thing is that the WSJ has finally become the thing that wild-eyed lefties used to claim it was back in the sixties - when it really wasn't - yet.
 
2014-03-09 05:00:40 AM  

Weatherkiss: If we can go start two wars in the middle-east for bullshiat reasons with bullshiat victory conditions on a deficit, then we can make sure our own citizens are healthy and have enough to eat in their own farking country.

Lorelle: House Republicans sought to force modest food-stamp reforms such as work requirements

Doing what?? If there were more jobs available, many people wouldn't need food stamps.

Too bad Republicans don't give a shiat about creating jobs, and are instead focused on taking affordable health care insurance away from millions of Americans and keeping gays from marrying.

That's not true. They're also trying to redefine rape.


And outlaw abortion - just to make sure there'll be plenty of poors around to starve.
 
2014-03-09 05:07:17 AM  
If the Republicans were serious about reducing poverty, and the need for food stamps, they would increase the funding and availability for women's reproductive health services, and allow federal dollars to be spent on abortions. A dead fetus eats less food.
 
2014-03-09 05:11:01 AM  

jso2897: And outlaw abortion - just to make sure there'll be plenty of poors around to starve


The trick isn't to starve them. The trick is to keep them in debt up to their eyeballs and clinging to the things they have by their fingertips. Then they'll work harder and harder and you can go ahead and burn them out without ever hearing a word of complaint.
 
2014-03-09 05:15:19 AM  
Before birth, you are holy and sacred and pure and innocent.

Afterward, you're utterly worthless.

There should be a way to genetically engineer an entire society composed of unborn fetuses.
 
2014-03-09 05:16:22 AM  

Solid State Vittles: All of the talk of "gaming the system" and "loopholes" and "scams" in editorials like this bothers me since it undermines the real problem which is that too many people actually need this kind of assistance.  Don't be such assholes.


Exactly this.
Complaining about "food stamp abuses" is so incredibly irksome -- it is a program that is NOT highly abused, helps many people who REALLY need it, and is actually a good economic stimulus.  It circulates money from the people using the program, through markets, and ultimately through farms and other food providers.  The food stamp program isn't expensive because people cheat the system, it's expensive because too many people f**king NEED them.  The problem goes away with higher employment; cutting SNAP assistance doesn't create jobs or reduce abuse of the system, it just makes people go hungry.

I often feel like Republicans care much less about actually cutting the budget in any useful or responsible way than they do about taking everything away from people they consider to be "takers".  I know this isn't true, but it's just seems like the party is composed of nothing but selfish, angry Scrooges with absolutely no human compassion.
 
2014-03-09 05:19:19 AM  
Soup kitchens and school lunch programs feed people.
Food stamps help them overlook the fact that the system has failed them.
 
2014-03-09 05:20:10 AM  

Kittypie070: Before birth, you are holy and sacred and pure and innocent.

Afterward, you're utterly worthless.

There should be a way to genetically engineer an entire society composed of unborn fetuses.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-09 05:26:08 AM  

Weatherkiss: Kittypie070: Before birth, you are holy and sacred and pure and innocent.

Afterward, you're utterly worthless.

There should be a way to genetically engineer an entire society composed of unborn fetuses.

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You beat me to it.
 
2014-03-09 05:32:45 AM  
Aw crap, Ferro.

That's no world to live in.
 
2014-03-09 05:32:58 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: fusillade762: We're linking to the WSJ's opinion page now? Lovely. Why don't you just hook the derp up to my veins.

I have rarely seen a publication so quickly and thoroughly gutted.


The second Murdoch even glances at a competing news source you can guarantee shiat ain't gonna stay on the straight and narrow there unfortunately...
 
2014-03-09 05:35:10 AM  

Gawdzila: Solid State Vittles: All of the talk of "gaming the system" and "loopholes" and "scams" in editorials like this bothers me since it undermines the real problem which is that too many people actually need this kind of assistance.  Don't be such assholes.

Exactly this.
Complaining about "food stamp abuses" is so incredibly irksome -- it is a program that is NOT highly abused, helps many people who REALLY need it, and is actually a good economic stimulus.  It circulates money from the people using the program, through markets, and ultimately through farms and other food providers.  The food stamp program isn't expensive because people cheat the system, it's expensive because too many people f**king NEED them.  The problem goes away with higher employment; cutting SNAP assistance doesn't create jobs or reduce abuse of the system, it just makes people go hungry.

I often feel like Republicans care much less about actually cutting the budget in any useful or responsible way than they do about taking everything away from people they consider to be "takers".  I know this isn't true, but it's just seems like the party is composed of nothing but selfish, angry Scrooges with absolutely no human compassion.


Here's my take on Republican ideology, I think that they believe that tax cuts (for everyone..... not just the rich) would be a way to take a huge burden off of the economy. It is like giving everybody a raise.

But, to do so requires gutting the Government.

And many of their beliefs from this point is about fooling themselves into thinking that gutting various programs would be a good thing.
 
2014-03-09 05:35:54 AM  
That article is one hell of a good example of projection.

"Of course everyone else is going to cheat and game the system! What do you think I do every chance I get?"
 
2014-03-09 05:42:36 AM  
Jesus Christ, I cannot believe that this shiat stain has a problem looking after his own countrymen. Dude YOU are the problem. YOU divide your country. YOU make your country weak. If we know our own will fight for our right to live, food in our bellies and the welfare and our way of life, we will fight for them.

It's like he's looking for an enemy, can't find one so he turns on his own.
 
2014-03-09 05:49:40 AM  
He is the enemy.

and saying that makes me terribly sad.
 
2014-03-09 05:52:08 AM  
Maybe instead of lamenting the fact that 1 in 7 require food stamps, they should examine why we need to do it? "Lazy" is not an answer. Free market wages is the answer.
 
2014-03-09 05:56:01 AM  

unlikely: The trick isn't to starve them. The trick is to keep them in debt up to their eyeballs and clinging to the things they have by their fingertips. Then they'll work harder and harder and you can go ahead and burn them out without ever hearing a word of complaint.


Who needs a whip when you have debt?
 
2014-03-09 05:57:27 AM  

themindiswatching: It's almost as though the way we've been doing things isn't working or something.


Lots of people still struggling in poverty? Gosh, I wonder why that is...

motherjones.com
 
2014-03-09 06:08:33 AM  
When are we going to stop blaming poor people for bring poor?
 
2014-03-09 06:09:34 AM  
Being.  Sorry.
 
2014-03-09 06:11:59 AM  

Iamafed: When are we going to stop blaming poor people for bring poor?


Never (R).
 
2014-03-09 06:13:04 AM  

Iamafed: When are we going to stop blaming poor people for bring poor?


When they stop BEING so poor and get out there and be less poor! Damn! Why are you so dense? Are you poor?
 
2014-03-09 06:15:04 AM  
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

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2014-03-09 06:16:45 AM  
WSJ asks:

www.esquire.com

Whose fault is it really that these kids are so sad and hungry?
 
2014-03-09 06:20:37 AM  

Solid State Vittles: All of the talk of "gaming the system" and "loopholes" and "scams" in editorials like this bothers me since it undermines the real problem which is that too many people actually need this kind of assistance.  Don't be such assholes.


But that's their point. A conservative's worst nightmare, what wakes them up in the night with a cold sweat, is that someone, somewhere is getting something they don't deserve*.

*Unless they're rich.
 
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