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(Opposing Views)   It's impossible to put a price on two douchebag softball coaches outing a teen girl to her mom. Seventy-eight grand is a good start, though   (opposingviews.com) divider line 226
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2014-03-08 09:54:55 PM  
"The great thing that Skye did in bringing this lawsuit was that it was not just for her, it was for others," said Jennifer Doan, Wyatt's attorney.

Doan went on to say, "... starting with my 40% fee."
 
2014-03-08 10:01:00 PM  
Skye Wyatt, now 21, alleged in her lawsuit that the Kilgore ISD violated her constitutional right to privacy

I guess it's a good thing they settled because I don't think such a thing exists.


Wyatt claimed that when she was 16, her softball coaches, Rhonda Fletcher and Cassandra Newell, locked her in the locker room and accused her of having a relationship with another girl. Wyatt was indeed dating the girl whom the coaches named, but she denied the accusation. The coaches threatened her, telling she wouldn't be allowed to play and that they would sue her for slander

That activity in itself should be grounds for a lawsuit. And slander? WTF?
 
2014-03-08 10:02:38 PM  
A good start to what?

Emotional damages are not worth any money. If they were there's about 10 women who owe me millions and a new liver.
 
2014-03-08 10:10:03 PM  
Lesbians in softball?

Why, I'm flabbergasted at the mere implication.
 
2014-03-08 10:10:40 PM  

doglover: A good start to what?

Emotional damages are not worth any money. If they were there's about 10 women who owe me millions and a new liver.


School officials and medical providers are not allowed by many state and federal privacy laws to reveal sexual orientation or health problems regarding sexual activity (such as treatment for STDs) to parents without the express permission of the teenager. In Tennessee, that starts at age 14.

Also, outing a teen as gay to their parents can, depending on what environment they live in, endanger their health and safety. Families have been known to kick gay teens out on the streets (In some cities, up to 50% of the homeless population are GLBT teens and young adults), beat the ever-loving shiat out of them, or send them to "reeducation camps" because they don't "agree with their lifestyle choices".
 
2014-03-08 10:18:20 PM  
Wyatt claimed that when she was 16, her softball coaches, Rhonda Fletcher and Cassandra Newell, locked her in the locker room and accused her of having a relationship with another girl

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2014-03-08 10:27:49 PM  

fusillade762: I guess it's a good thing they settled because I don't think such a thing exists.


Ron, is that you?
 
2014-03-08 10:34:54 PM  

hardinparamedic: doglover: A good start to what?

Emotional damages are not worth any money. If they were there's about 10 women who owe me millions and a new liver.

School officials and medical providers are not allowed by many state and federal privacy laws to reveal sexual orientation or health problems regarding sexual activity (such as treatment for STDs) to parents without the express permission of the teenager. In Tennessee, that starts at age 14.

Also, outing a teen as gay to their parents can, depending on what environment they live in, endanger their health and safety. Families have been known to kick gay teens out on the streets (In some cities, up to 50% of the homeless population are GLBT teens and young adults), beat the ever-loving shiat out of them, or send them to "reeducation camps" because they don't "agree with their lifestyle choices".


But did any of that happen? I don't see where it's worth $78,000 unless there was real financial damages. And a lot of that other stuff? Should be jail worthy on it's own. You send your kid to a re-education camp? I say send YOU a reeducation camp. Only instead of camp, it's a prison, and instead of reeducation it's just normal education because you obviously don't have any if you'd send your own kid to a camp like that. That's the real problem. That and lawyers targeting organizations for things individuals should be personally liable for.
 
2014-03-08 10:45:29 PM  
Opposing Views is back?

great.
 
2014-03-08 10:46:12 PM  
So... she can play hardball, too
 
2014-03-08 10:49:53 PM  
The thing most surprising to me is that apparently there are heterosexual female softball coaches.
 
2014-03-08 10:54:25 PM  

optikeye: The thing most surprising to me is that apparently there are heterosexual female softball coaches.


Or they're overcompensating, like CPAC.
 
2014-03-08 11:02:56 PM  
It's Texas Jake.
 
2014-03-08 11:04:50 PM  
Wyatt claimed that when she was 16, her softball coaches, Rhonda Fletcher and Cassandra Newell, locked her in the locker room and accused her of having a relationship with another girl. Wyatt was indeed dating the girl whom the coaches named, but she denied the accusation. The coaches threatened her, telling her she wouldn't be allowed to play and that they were going to out her to her mother.

The coaches then called Barbara Wyatt, the girl's mother, and asked her to meet them. When she did, they revealed that her daughter was gay. The next day, the coaches kicked Wyatt off the team.

In a sworn statement from 2011, Wyatt wrote that the coaches' actions "totally destroyed" her relationship with her mother for "almost two years."


Next time you're tempted to think that anti-gay discrimination doesn't really happen any more, think of this.
 
2014-03-08 11:32:44 PM  
A kid this young has no idea how to handle that much money. She'll just blow it all on Melissa Etheridge albums, wallet chains, Subarus, WNBA tickets, buzz cuts, nose studs, and vagina-shaped dildos.
 
2014-03-08 11:46:30 PM  

RedPhoenix122: optikeye: The thing most surprising to me is that apparently there are heterosexual female softball coaches.

Or they're overcompensating, like CPAC.


or jealous.
 
2014-03-08 11:54:34 PM  

nickdaisy: A kid this young has no idea how to handle that much money. She'll just blow it all on Melissa Etheridge albums, wallet chains, Subarus, WNBA tickets, buzz cuts, nose studs, and vagina-shaped dildos.


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2014-03-09 12:00:11 AM  
The school district maintains that its employees did nothing wrong

We found the people that need to be dragged behind a pickup truck.
 
2014-03-09 12:01:52 AM  

2wolves: It's Texas Jake.


I know that Florida has its own tag, but this one just screamed Texas to me for some reason.
 
2014-03-09 12:06:10 AM  
I can only imagine that subby used the miscellaneous tag because he/she couldn't decide between asinine, sad, stupid, fail, and dumbass,
 
2014-03-09 12:55:47 AM  

fusillade762: Skye Wyatt, now 21, alleged in her lawsuit that the Kilgore ISD violated her constitutional right to privacy

I guess it's a good thing they settled because I don't think such a thing exists.



Actually, the Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized a constitutional right to privacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_privacy#United_States

/law student
//the more you know
 
2014-03-09 01:02:55 AM  
Dear Texas,
Please pull you head out of your ass.

~The rest of the world
 
2014-03-09 01:07:59 AM  
Whoa whoa whoa here- why is the school district at fault? This is a money grab, plain and simple.

Should have been a personal suit against coaches.
 
2014-03-09 01:09:04 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The school district maintains that its employees did nothing wrong

We found the people that need to be dragged behind a pickup truck.


Yeah, that statement made me rage so hard.  Ignorant farkwits.
 
2014-03-09 01:10:01 AM  
Texas, I already hate all Christians.

Don't make me hate all heterosexuals.

j/k

mostly.
 
2014-03-09 01:10:39 AM  
I know Kilgore well enough to say it's no surprise.
 
2014-03-09 01:12:53 AM  

nemisonic: Whoa whoa whoa here- why is the school district at fault? This is a money grab, plain and simple.

Should have been a personal suit against coaches.


FTFA: The school district maintains that its employees did nothing wrong


That's why.
 
2014-03-09 01:17:19 AM  
Nope - still not clicking on an Opposing Views link.  Thanks for playing.
 
2014-03-09 01:21:11 AM  

nemisonic: Whoa whoa whoa here- why is the school district at fault? This is a money grab, plain and simple.

Should have been a personal suit against coaches.


The coaches were acting as agents of the school district.
 
2014-03-09 01:21:56 AM  
You can get kicked off a softball team for being a lesbian?  Time to check if I've jumped alternate universes again.
 
2014-03-09 01:22:44 AM  

Farker Soze: You can get kicked off a softball team for being a lesbian?  Time to check if I've jumped alternate universes again.


You mean Texas isn't an alternate universe?
 
2014-03-09 01:27:21 AM  

Farker Soze: You can get kicked off a softball team for being a lesbian?  Time to check if I've jumped alternate universes again.


shiat, if they enforced that would there even BE softball teams?
 
2014-03-09 01:29:06 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Farker Soze: You can get kicked off a softball team for being a lesbian?  Time to check if I've jumped alternate universes again.

You mean Texas isn't an alternate universe?


Texas?  Ohhhhhhh... that would explain it.  Guess
 I don't have to check for goatees now.
 
2014-03-09 01:29:10 AM  
I generally think suing for money in situations like this is bullshiat. I would certainly like to see the coaches fired though assuming it did happen the way she says it did.

The truly sad part is the fact that her sexual preference is such a big deal that it ruined her relationship with her mother, wtf? People are so weird about the gay thing. I just can't fathom being worried about who someone else wants to date.
 
2014-03-09 01:30:40 AM  

DanZero: Opposing Views is back?

great.


gfid: Nope - still not clicking on an Opposing Views link.  Thanks for playing.


Ok... so what edgy and rebellious internet fad did I miss this time?
 
2014-03-09 01:30:45 AM  

doglover: A good start to what?

Emotional damages are not worth any money. If they were there's about 10 women who owe me millions and a new liver.


Amen to that. Only a small handful for me, but that shiat is more emotionally distressing than most of the stuff people try to sue for that about.
 
2014-03-09 01:34:10 AM  
Kids these days...no gay pride.
 
2014-03-09 01:34:59 AM  
The Kilgore ISD board believes that the actions of its employees were in all things lawful," the school said in a statement. "No new policies are going to be adopted."

So, lessee.

They locked her in a room against her will. That's either false imprisonment (tort) or kidnapping (criminal) with aggravating circumstances (since the girl was a minor).

They said she could not play softball unless she admitted to having a relationship with another girl. That's either coercion or sexual harassment, depending on  how you define it; both are illegal.

They threatened to tell her mother she was having a relationship with another girl. That's invasion of privacy, defamation (as they knew it, since she initially denied the charge), possibly false light, and extortion. All of these are illegal.

They then did tell her mother she was gay. That is invasion of privacy, either intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress (tort) and possibly sexual harassment. All of these are illegal.

So if the district finds all of these things lawful, one wonders what, exactly, they do find UN-lawful? Murder, rape and cannibalism?
 
2014-03-09 01:36:25 AM  
Hell, the girls softball coach when I was high school was openly gay, Coach Kenny.  And this was at a Christian school in New Orleans in the 1980s.

However, now that she is out I can see she has gone through the tranformation from cute high school lesbian to grown up khaki pant, greasy haired porker butch chick.

Befores

images.hngn.com

a2-images.myspacecdn.com

Nows

a.abcnews.go.com
 
2014-03-09 01:37:07 AM  
It's sad that the poor girl's sexual orientation has to be kept secret from her mother.  Mother needs to DIAF if she treated her daughter badly because of it.

Gay is OK.  Needs to be repeated.
 
2014-03-09 01:38:41 AM  

theflatline: Hell, the girls softball coach when I was high school was openly gay, Coach Kenny.  And this was at a Christian school in New Orleans in the 1980s.

However, now that she is out I can see she has gone through the tranformation from cute high school lesbian to grown up khaki pant, greasy haired porker butch chick.

Befores

[images.hngn.com image 500x817]

[a2-images.myspacecdn.com image 300x300]

Nows

[a.abcnews.go.com image 658x370]


Judging from those pictures, she's no more androgynous then before, but she seems to have gained weight. Perhaps from some sort of extra stress in her life?
 
2014-03-09 01:41:49 AM  
I get that everyone thinks suing anyone for any reason is stupid and all of that but I'd argue that aside from not being able to play on the team and obviously some pain and suffering regarding the lack of relationship with the coaches specifically due to them outing the girl to her mom it could be also said that by losing the opportunity to play softball for those last couple of years may have adversely affected her ability to get into college, a better college than the one she got in to which over time could have cost her well over the amount of money she ended up with.  Seems legit to me and it seems like the coaches are the type of people that should not be around any children at all since they obviously can't be trusted and do not have the best interests of the kids they are coaching at heart.
The fact that they locked her in the locker room and interrogated her also leads me to believe that getting away with having to pay damages and not having to stand trial for kidnapping or something along those lines means that they got away relatively unscathed.  I'm not a lawyer or a prosecutor so I'm not really sure how that works but generally speaking it seems like they did something wrong that caused damage to a student and should be held responsible since they could have just minded their business and kept their influence on softball instead of being homophobes out to destroy a student's life.
 
2014-03-09 01:42:30 AM  

HotWingAgenda: theflatline: Hell, the girls softball coach when I was high school was openly gay, Coach Kenny.  And this was at a Christian school in New Orleans in the 1980s.

However, now that she is out I can see she has gone through the tranformation from cute high school lesbian to grown up khaki pant, greasy haired porker butch chick.

Befores

[images.hngn.com image 500x817]

[a2-images.myspacecdn.com image 300x300]

Nows

[a.abcnews.go.com image 658x370]

Judging from those pictures, she's no more androgynous then before, but she seems to have gained weight. Perhaps from some sort of extra stress in her life?


From my experience highschool softball players tend to go to pot after high school and the sports are over.

The appetite remains the same while activity level goes to zero.
 
2014-03-09 01:49:31 AM  
Gyrfalcon:

So if the district finds all of these things lawful, one wonders what, exactly, they do find UN-lawful? Murder, rape and cannibalism?

Only if it's, you know, "legitimate rape"
 
2014-03-09 01:52:41 AM  

James10952001: I generally think suing for money in situations like this is bullshiat. I would certainly like to see the coaches fired though assuming it did happen the way she says it did.


While I agree with you on the money, there's a strong argument that this is the only way to get some organizations to learn.  Look at this school; the administration likely backed the coaches, the coaches have faced no disciplinary actions or were fired.
 
2014-03-09 01:56:14 AM  

Gyrfalcon: The Kilgore ISD board believes that the actions of its employees were in all things lawful," the school said in a statement. "No new policies are going to be adopted."

So, lessee.

They locked her in a room against her will. That's either false imprisonment (tort) or kidnapping (criminal) with aggravating circumstances (since the girl was a minor).

They said she could not play softball unless she admitted to having a relationship with another girl. That's either coercion or sexual harassment, depending on  how you define it; both are illegal.

They threatened to tell her mother she was having a relationship with another girl. That's invasion of privacy, defamation (as they knew it, since she initially denied the charge), possibly false light, and extortion. All of these are illegal.

They then did tell her mother she was gay. That is invasion of privacy, either intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress (tort) and possibly sexual harassment. All of these are illegal.

So if the district finds all of these things lawful, one wonders what, exactly, they do find UN-lawful? Murder, rape and cannibalism?


I cannot imagine being the school district's legal counsel in this situation.  This has to be a really shiatty case for them.  Obviously, they know what you know and more - I can't imagine they haven't told the administrator to shut the fark up and stop saying it was legal when it wasn't.
 
2014-03-09 01:56:37 AM  
Um, that sucked.

Those coaches are lucky that girl didn't cut herself like that kid in "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest".
 
2014-03-09 03:03:00 AM  
FTA: "Wyatt was indeed dating the girl whom the coaches named, but she denied the accusation."

What, exactly, was the school sued for? Threatening her and throwing her off of the team is one thing, but suing somebody for making a truthful statement to another person? And they settled? Really?
 
2014-03-09 03:03:31 AM  
I find myself wishing with increasing frequency these days that a comet or something would just come along and end our silly little species. At this pong I dint anyone can really argue that it wouldn't be for the best.
 
2014-03-09 03:04:02 AM  
I hope Douchebag Coach 1 and Douchebag Coach 2 won't have their contracts renewed when they expire. They just cost that district over 77 Grand.
 
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