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2014-03-08 02:28:55 PM  
That's a shame, it's a very good show. I haven't started watching Season Two yet though. I tried but I got all confused with True Detective so I figure I'll wait till that's over (tomorrow) before I start. Only so many shows about dead girls with antlers I can watch at a time.
 
2014-03-08 03:24:38 PM  
Who cares when they air it? How many shows do you actually watch in real time? If it has commercials, it gets DVR'd so I can fast-forward through them.
 
2014-03-08 03:24:53 PM  
Doesn't everyone have DVRs nowadays?
 
2014-03-08 03:56:44 PM  

Bob Falfa: Who cares when they air it? How many shows do you actually watch in real time? If it has commercials, it gets DVR'd so I can fast-forward through them.


This is NBC, not Netflix.
 
2014-03-08 03:57:41 PM  
Nothing But Cancellations
 
2014-03-08 04:04:15 PM  

Confabulat: Bob Falfa: Who cares when they air it? How many shows do you actually watch in real time? If it has commercials, it gets DVR'd so I can fast-forward through them.

This is NBC, not Netflix.


Then DVR it like I said, dumbass. I didn't say anything about Netflix.
 
2014-03-08 04:08:06 PM  

Bob Falfa: Then DVR it like I said, dumbass. I didn't say anything about Netflix.


Don't yell at me dude, I'm not an NBC executive. You don't think they care about ratings?
 
2014-03-08 04:33:20 PM  
Ugh.  "Hannibal" is spectacularly good and deserves to be one of the only-on-NBC year after year after year renewals that come down despite ratings sucking.
 
2014-03-08 05:29:08 PM  
I would love to see it moved back to Thursday night, but I still plan to watch it on Friday night, even if NBC doesn't listen to reason.

Seriously, though...WTF were you thinking NBC? "Hannibal" is IMHO the best show you're currently airing & you favorited! it onto Friday night. Seriously, dumbasses?

I don't watch but a couple of shows on a regular basis, but "Hannibal" is one that I don't want to miss.
 
2014-03-08 05:33:06 PM  
I believe Fuller said that if NBC ever cancels it, multiple networks have  already made him offers to pick it up.
 
2014-03-08 05:40:09 PM  

robsul82: Ugh.  "Hannibal" is spectacularly good


Yup. Good actors all around, especially Mads Mikkelsen
 
2014-03-08 05:41:16 PM  
NBC execs are a disgrace.
 
2014-03-08 05:42:21 PM  
Also, the opening scene last night was one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. I had to mute it and look away. Holy shiat, how do they let that shiat on television.
 
2014-03-08 05:43:26 PM  

DamnYankees: I believe Fuller said that if NBC ever cancels it, multiple networks have  already made him offers to pick it up.


It could go on A&E, right after Bates Motel.  Perfect.
 
2014-03-08 05:43:49 PM  
I'm like Mal - morbid and creepifying I've got no problem with, as long as its quiet-like.

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2014-03-08 05:46:12 PM  
why does anyone air anything original on Friday nights? The last Friday night drama I can remember working was the X Files, but then again I was 12 and my Friday night options were fairly limited.
 
2014-03-08 05:46:38 PM  

DamnYankees: Also, the opening scene last night was one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. I had to mute it and look away. Holy shiat, how do they let that shiat on television.


I was definitely cringing and looking away as well. Ugh. The show is brilliant however.
 
2014-03-08 05:53:14 PM  

DamnYankees: Also, the opening scene last night was one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. I had to mute it and look away. Holy shiat, how do they let that shiat on television.


Yeah, and then we saw how Hannibal makes that veal dish.  I was sitting there like, "Oh God, chunks - actual CHUNKS!"  lol
 
2014-03-08 05:56:14 PM  
Honestly subby I always sort of thought that this show wasn't about ratings more about proving that NBC compete with the cable networks as far as production values go. More like a proof of concept kind of thing. I mean Hannibal probably spends more on special effects than a lot of shows spend to produce an entire episode. I'm sure securing Mads Mikkelson, Hugh Dacy and Laurence Fishburn doesn't come cheap either. Its a very limited premise so I'm guessing NBC plans on eating any potential losses for the two or three seasons its going to take to tell the entire story. Unless this is a kind of what if? What if Will Graham  was behind bars and Hannibal the one getting help with investigations. But I think its really really unlikely.
 
2014-03-08 05:58:13 PM  

robsul82: DamnYankees: Also, the opening scene last night was one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. I had to mute it and look away. Holy shiat, how do they let that shiat on television.

Yeah, and then we saw how Hannibal makes that veal dish.  I was sitting there like, "Oh God, chunks - actual CHUNKS!"  lol


The eating stuff doesn't really bother me. I'm one of those people who would try human meat if it was available without moral issues (like if someone dies and in their will desires that their body be eaten). The fact that Hannibal eats the people has never really been a horrific thing to me, especially since he makes it all look so goddamm delicious.
 
2014-03-08 06:08:44 PM  
I'm enjoying the show, but I have no idea how they can rate that TV-14.  The violence and gore are worse than the last 5 "R" rated movies I've seen, and there's been more nudity in these first two episodes than the last 5 porn movies I've seen.
Friday is a terrible time slot and I missed both episodes live because even a loser like me can find something better to do on a Friday at 10pm than watch TV.  Nice of NBC to have the full episodes on their website though.
 
2014-03-08 06:44:18 PM  
Is Hannibal about Barca?

If not... meh.
 
2014-03-08 06:57:03 PM  
I haven't been able to watch it on TV when it airs, and what really annoys me is that I can't stream it on my PS3. For some reason, Hulu doesn't have the rights to stream it on my device, I can only stream it on my computer. I can still watch it, but that's an added step and an inconvenience. You'd think if they wanted to promote the show, it would be available to stream on all devices. The same thing was true for 30 Rock.

NBC just has no respect for smart shows. I'm honestly surprised Hannibal got a second season, not just because it was good, but because it has Caroline Dhavernas in the cast. This is the first show she's been in that lasted more than one season. (And sadly not the first quality show she's been in screwed over by the network. That other would be Wonderfalls, also by Brian Fuller, which actually exists in the Hannibal universe.)
 
2014-03-08 07:08:55 PM  
Friday Night Death Slot strikes again.
 
2014-03-08 07:16:54 PM  

baorao: why does anyone air anything original on Friday nights? The last Friday night drama I can remember working was the X Files, but then again I was 12 and my Friday night options were fairly limited.


"Grimm" seems to be doing OK, despite a somewhat rambling plotline.
 
2014-03-08 07:19:25 PM  

MadCat221: Friday Night Death Slot strikes again.


Yup.  It seems like networks shuffle off the shows they're leaning towards canceling, but aren't 100% sure yet, to Friday night.  It generally does not bode well for the future of the show.

That being said, Fuller is a genius, and I wouldn't mind Hannibal getting the axe so that he could move on to something a bit less gruesome so that I could actually enjoy watching it.
 
2014-03-08 07:25:41 PM  

fusillade762: baorao: why does anyone air anything original on Friday nights? The last Friday night drama I can remember working was the X Files, but then again I was 12 and my Friday night options were fairly limited.

"Grimm" seems to be doing OK, despite a somewhat rambling plotline.


Came to say this. Glad that Wu is now in on things even if he does think he's going nuts
 
2014-03-08 07:32:36 PM  

texdent: fusillade762: baorao: why does anyone air anything original on Friday nights? The last Friday night drama I can remember working was the X Files, but then again I was 12 and my Friday night options were fairly limited.

"Grimm" seems to be doing OK, despite a somewhat rambling plotline.

Came to say this. Glad that Wu is now in on things even if he does think he's going nuts


Maybe I'll give Grimm another shot.  I watched the first episode, well, at least part of it, and I was so underwhelmed I never recorded it again.

SyFy's Lost Girl is filling my 'supernatural drama' niche at the moment though.
 
2014-03-08 07:34:49 PM  

texdent: fusillade762: baorao: why does anyone air anything original on Friday nights? The last Friday night drama I can remember working was the X Files, but then again I was 12 and my Friday night options were fairly limited.

"Grimm" seems to be doing OK, despite a somewhat rambling plotline.

Came to say this. Glad that Wu is now in on things even if he does think he's going nuts


Gah! Spoilers!

Though I kinda guessed he'd become part of the Scoobies eventually.
 
2014-03-08 07:48:33 PM  

fusillade762: Gah! Spoilers!

Though I kinda guessed he'd become part of the Scoobies eventually.


Sorry, though he's not quite to the Scoobies yet. He's still in the dark and trying to process it like Hank did.
 
2014-03-08 07:52:01 PM  
People watch TV shows live?  Hell, I don't know when any of my shows are on.  I hit the DVR menu and "Oh hey!  Justified!".

What pissed me off is they didn't show the season premiere last week.  Some stupid hockey game early in the evening, then they just pushed the 7 PM schedule back a couple hours and didn't show the prime time stuff at all.

This is why the networks are losing viewers, flat out stupidity.
 
2014-03-08 08:00:16 PM  

Snotnose: People watch TV shows live?  Hell, I don't know when any of my shows are on.  I hit the DVR menu and "Oh hey!  Justified!".

What pissed me off is they didn't show the season premiere last week.  Some stupid hockey game early in the evening, then they just pushed the 7 PM schedule back a couple hours and didn't show the prime time stuff at all.

This is why the networks are losing viewers, flat out stupidity.


You may not watch live, and you may not understand why anybody else does, and you may not care if anybody else does...but you should at least understand that shows live or die based on who DOES watch live (mostly).
 
2014-03-08 08:20:54 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Snotnose: People watch TV shows live?  Hell, I don't know when any of my shows are on.  I hit the DVR menu and "Oh hey!  Justified!".

What pissed me off is they didn't show the season premiere last week.  Some stupid hockey game early in the evening, then they just pushed the 7 PM schedule back a couple hours and didn't show the prime time stuff at all.

This is why the networks are losing viewers, flat out stupidity.

You may not watch live, and you may not understand why anybody else does, and you may not care if anybody else does...but you should at least understand that shows live or die based on who DOES watch live (mostly).


You'd be surprised.  SHIELD and Sleepy Hollow are huge hits, but not because of their mediocre live tv numbers.
 
2014-03-08 08:21:54 PM  
The show so far has been brilliant, sharp scripts, flawless set design, and the slight edge of dark humor that's in the books as well. So of course it ends up in the Friday death slot with two shows that have completely different sets of demographics. I hate that NBC picked this up. If this was on cable, it would be one of the hottest things out there. Loved how Hannibal casually dropped a mention of how he learned kaiseki. These are clearly writers that know the material and how to use it.
 
2014-03-08 08:27:04 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: I would love to see it moved back to Thursday night, but I still plan to watch it on Friday night, even if NBC doesn't listen to reason.

Seriously, though...WTF were you thinking NBC? "Hannibal" is IMHO the best show you're currently airing & you favorited! it onto Friday night. Seriously, dumbasses?

I don't watch but a couple of shows on a regular basis, but "Hannibal" is one that I don't want to miss.


The show got terrible ratings on Thursday night, and was renewed because it doesn't cost them a ton since a French production company is footing a lot of the bill.  They figured it might fit well with Grimm, but they were wrong.  The 1.1 it got last week would have been fine and 0.8 might be enough to get renewed anyway because of the weird financing, but this wasn't a dumb move.  It was the only to keep the show on the air since it would probably be getting almost as bad of numbers on Thursday nights.
 
2014-03-08 08:27:32 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Snotnose: People watch TV shows live?  Hell, I don't know when any of my shows are on.  I hit the DVR menu and "Oh hey!  Justified!".

What pissed me off is they didn't show the season premiere last week.  Some stupid hockey game early in the evening, then they just pushed the 7 PM schedule back a couple hours and didn't show the prime time stuff at all.

This is why the networks are losing viewers, flat out stupidity.

You may not watch live, and you may not understand why anybody else does, and you may not care if anybody else does...but you should at least understand that shows live or die based on who DOES watch live (mostly).


This that and the other.

As someone who has been in the business for 20+ years and is only a couple of years away from pulling the plug on it I eagerly await the time that all of the smug, self satisfied, "I don't even own a TV" douchebags have absolutely nothing to watch.

Ratings drive revenue and revenue drives content.
 
2014-03-08 08:30:28 PM  

Critch: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Snotnose: People watch TV shows live?  Hell, I don't know when any of my shows are on.  I hit the DVR menu and "Oh hey!  Justified!".

What pissed me off is they didn't show the season premiere last week.  Some stupid hockey game early in the evening, then they just pushed the 7 PM schedule back a couple hours and didn't show the prime time stuff at all.

This is why the networks are losing viewers, flat out stupidity.

You may not watch live, and you may not understand why anybody else does, and you may not care if anybody else does...but you should at least understand that shows live or die based on who DOES watch live (mostly).

You'd be surprised.  SHIELD and Sleepy Hollow are huge hits, but not because of their mediocre live tv numbers.


They're starting to pay attention to Live+7 numbers, which are those who watch live plus those who watch within seven days on DVR.  Still, as of the end of 2012 (the most recent numbers I could find) only about half of those who subscribe to cable or satellite have a DVR.

I don't know who all of those people who are paying for cable/sat but no spending the extra couple bucks a month for a DVR are, but they apparently exist.  I'm guessing most of them are very old.
 
2014-03-08 08:47:28 PM  
I certainly don't have a DVR but I get NBC on my antenna. I'm sure I'm not the only guy who uses TV like that nowadays. I have an internet for the important stuff.
 
2014-03-08 08:49:07 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Critch: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Snotnose: People watch TV shows live?  Hell, I don't know when any of my shows are on.  I hit the DVR menu and "Oh hey!  Justified!".

What pissed me off is they didn't show the season premiere last week.  Some stupid hockey game early in the evening, then they just pushed the 7 PM schedule back a couple hours and didn't show the prime time stuff at all.

This is why the networks are losing viewers, flat out stupidity.

You may not watch live, and you may not understand why anybody else does, and you may not care if anybody else does...but you should at least understand that shows live or die based on who DOES watch live (mostly).

You'd be surprised.  SHIELD and Sleepy Hollow are huge hits, but not because of their mediocre live tv numbers.

They're starting to pay attention to Live+7 numbers, which are those who watch live plus those who watch within seven days on DVR.  Still, as of the end of 2012 (the most recent numbers I could find) only about half of those who subscribe to cable or satellite have a DVR.

I don't know who all of those people who are paying for cable/sat but no spending the extra couple bucks a month for a DVR are, but they apparently exist.  I'm guessing most of them are very old.


They still have On Demand for almost everything, which works just like +7 DVR. It doesn't work for weeks/months/years after the fact, but you can get about 6 weeks worth of shows w/ just plain old On Demand. That is why I don't bother paying the extra DVR fee. Every once in awhile, some of the shows disable fast forward of commercials, but not as many as you'd think. It's usually only the broadcast networks who do that, or stuff less than 24 hours after the original airing.
 
2014-03-08 08:49:56 PM  
Hannibal belongs on Showtime, taking over Dexter's slot, not on NBC.
 
2014-03-08 09:00:36 PM  

Mugato: Hannibal belongs on Showtime, taking over Dexter's slot, not on NBC.


Yep, NBC will just cancel it in the middle of a storyline. It's waaaay too good for those dipshiats.
 
2014-03-08 09:13:18 PM  

Confabulat: Bob Falfa: Then DVR it like I said, dumbass. I didn't say anything about Netflix.

Don't yell at me dude, I'm not an NBC executive. You don't think they care about ratings?


They need to change the ratings.

Like tomorrow: I am not sure if I will watch "True Detective" or "The Walking Dead" at 9:00.  But I *will* watch both, both of which are in my DVRs.  Ratings aren't being calculated properly anymore because of DVR and on demand.  I watched all of "True Detective" in a day (I got sick as hell, had nothing to do but binge watch TV and mess around on Fark) but I watched it, And love it. And always watch "Walking Dead" - just more often than not on Monday, when nothing is on and I don't have band practice like I do on Sundays.
 
2014-03-08 09:14:36 PM  
I love that show, however my decision to watch last night's episode tripping balls on mushrooms is one I very much regret. I would advise against that to anyone reading.
 
2014-03-08 09:21:03 PM  

serpent_sky: Confabulat: Bob Falfa: Then DVR it like I said, dumbass. I didn't say anything about Netflix.

Don't yell at me dude, I'm not an NBC executive. You don't think they care about ratings?

They need to change the ratings.

Like tomorrow: I am not sure if I will watch "True Detective" or "The Walking Dead" at 9:00.  But I *will* watch both, both of which are in my DVRs.  Ratings aren't being calculated properly anymore because of DVR and on demand.  I watched all of "True Detective" in a day (I got sick as hell, had nothing to do but binge watch TV and mess around on Fark) but I watched it, And love it. And always watch "Walking Dead" - just more often than not on Monday, when nothing is on and I don't have band practice like I do on Sundays.


Ratings are not a measure of popularity. They're a measure of how many people watch the commercials, because commercials pay for the content. If you watch the commercials in The Walking Dead on Monday, that counts (assuming you're a Nielsen viewer obviously). Commercials watched up to three days count actually. But the networks don't care about people who don't watch the commercials because they're not getting paid for those viewers.
 
2014-03-08 09:24:29 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Doesn't everyone have DVRs nowadays?


I don't....yet anyway. Will probably buy one eventually, whenever I get caught up on some bills. In the meantime, if it's something I like to watch and I miss it at the time it's aired, I just cross my fingers and hope it's streamed online on the networks website sometime during the week.

Haven't watched "Hannibal" at all yet, but rarely miss "Grimm".
 
2014-03-08 09:28:50 PM  

rugman11: Ratings are not a measure of popularity. They're a measure of how many people watch the commercials, because commercials pay for the content. If you watch the commercials in The Walking Dead on Monday, that counts (assuming you're a Nielsen viewer obviously). Commercials watched up to three days count actually. But the networks don't care about people who don't watch the commercials because they're not getting paid for those viewers.


And they must hate DVR because why would I watch commercials I don't have to? Sometimes, on the network on demand channels, I *have* to, but I never have to on DVR.  Not that commercials usually do much with me other than make me NOT buy things because the commercial is annoying, but... who watches commercials when they DVR things? It's an extra benefit of DVR.
 
2014-03-08 09:28:54 PM  
Well the point is that Gillian Anderson is still hot. She's better as a red head though,
 
2014-03-08 09:29:34 PM  

Bob Falfa: Confabulat: Bob Falfa: Who cares when they air it? How many shows do you actually watch in real time? If it has commercials, it gets DVR'd so I can fast-forward through them.

This is NBC, not Netflix.

Then DVR it like I said, dumbass. I didn't say anything about Netflix.


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2014-03-08 09:29:39 PM  

serpent_sky: Like tomorrow: I am not sure if I will watch "True Detective" or "The Walking Dead" at 9:00.  But I *will* watch both, both of which are in my DVRs.


Even if you didn't have a DVR you could catch the Walking Dead since they re-air it two hours later.
 
2014-03-08 09:29:50 PM  

rugman11: Ratings are not a measure of popularity. They're a measure of how many people watch the commercials, because commercials pay for the content. If you watch the commercials in The Walking Dead on Monday, that counts (assuming you're a Nielsen viewer obviously). Commercials watched up to three days count actually. But the networks don't care about people who don't watch the commercials because they're not getting paid for those viewers.


I wonder why people forget this. In the olden times, it used to be shows like "Marlboro Cigarettes Presents: The Flintstones." The philosophy never has changed much.
 
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