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2014-03-08 05:16:35 PM  

Mark Ratner: Your daughter is quite breathtaking, you asshole.


Wait I thought the anus was unremarkable?
 
2014-03-08 05:16:57 PM  

socially inept was taken: I think she has a point and you are all just sadly parroting the first one to post.  Perhaps read the article and make your own judgment.  Or don't.  It's probably too much for you to comprehend anyway.


Okay, how about I respond to this:

"Consequently it's no coincidence when those boys end up in science and technology careers, while girls tend to set their sights on lower-paid fields like cleaning, catering and childcare "

In the US at least, there is an education gap between males and females that means that women in their 20s who work full-time make more than men at the same age who work full-time. Women are also less likely to be unemployed than men. Saying that because women are less likely to work in STEM fields that they are resigned to cleaning shiat is just ignorant.
 
2014-03-08 05:18:42 PM  
ShatteredMinds:
Not that hard to find GIS "dinosaurs shirts pink" and you can find plenty same for the others you mention you just have to look for what you want.

Hey, cool!  Thanks.  I did not care too much about pink and was probably trying to avoid it to stay away from "girly" dinosaurs, but there is some really cute stuff in there.  Just goes to show that even if you try to stay away from stereotypes,  you might miss things because you are actively trying to avoid them.  I have a friend with a little girl who is not allowed to wear pink at all.  I just think it is still sending a message about what is and is not appropriate for girls.  Girls can be empowered and still like pink.  Empowerment is about being able to choose what you want instead of what is dictated to you, so not wearing pink is just as bad as only wearing pink really.
 
2014-03-08 05:18:58 PM  

bratface: I spent yesterday afternoon watching my kids learn to skateboard. In between suppressing mental flashes of horrific child vs. pavement encounters, I noticed something: My son was a gung-ho, scraped-knees-be-damned force of nature, while my daughter held back, reticent and hesitant. When I asked her why, she said she was afraid of "doing it wrong".

Well Ms. Parmar, your daughter is only 6, so her reticence and hesitation was most likely learned at home.  So who do you blame now?
Also the 'doing it wrong' will most likely lead to getting hurt so being a bit 'reticent' seems pretty smart to me.

Yes I know she will never read this but I had to say it!


Not to mention I saw hell-for-leather girls and reticent boys among my son's friends as he was growing up. It's all in how they're wired, lady.
 
2014-03-08 05:19:19 PM  

R1mbaud: I'm just not buying that the companies are intending to manipulate the gender stereotypes. It's aimed at the largely accurate trends between the genders in an effort to sell more things. Nobody is telling your little girl who or what to be like. Tell them that and don't be upset when they're complimented.


They aren't exactly manipulating gender stereotypes, but they're most certainly doing everything in their power to ensure that they literally grow a customer base. Sell the parents on "Princess" (ie: Girl) crap for their daughters and "Sports" (ie: Boy) crap for their sons before the kids are even born and the people surrounding the parents will inevitably follow the lead of the parents, sending "Princess" crap to the girl for birthdays, anniversaries, "It's Tuesday and I was thinking of you." days, etc. The girl grows into consciousness surrounded by "Princess" crap and it's what she begins to like.

Then she gets older and what does she ask her parents for (or demand)? "Princess" crap. Why? That's what she's always had, what she's always been given and what she's come to think of as "Hers". You toss in some of the other idiocy around it (just look at "Princess" Lego...) and suddenly those gender stereotypes are everywhere. Serious, go look down the toy aisle at Toys R Us or Wal-Mart or Target or whatever store sells toys and just look at the toys that are "Princess" toys. Lego shopping malls. EZ Bake ovens. Pink convertibles. Lots of miniskirts and high heel shoes on the dolls. MAYBE, if you're lucky, you'll see some doctors outfits, but mostly you're going to see just nurses and debutante outfits.

It may not be "Let's Manipulate the Gender Stereotypes!" but at the very, very least it's exploiting them to ensure a customer base literally grows up with them.
 
2014-03-08 05:19:48 PM  

listernine: Tl;dr, sandy vagina, etc. etc...


I ordered a book called "How to be a feminist in three easy steps"

It was a diagram of a vagina, a bag of sand and a tampon applicator
 
2014-03-08 05:20:05 PM  

Bender The Offender: That has done nothing to dissuade her from her dreams of murder and world domination. Parenting makes all the difference.


Your daughter is Arya?
 
2014-03-08 05:21:07 PM  
Sad for that child, having to satisfy her mother's expectations of hate.
 
2014-03-08 05:22:31 PM  
Don't worry, she'll be begging men to tell her she's pretty while she's sucking them off in a bowling alley parking lot for meth soon enough, so, good job, mom.
 
2014-03-08 05:22:34 PM  
Wow, this article seems to have threatened some Farkers.  Oh, wait, actually  it looks like just the usual lower 3% on Fark who are threatened by women in general.
 
2014-03-08 05:23:37 PM  

Techhell: R1mbaud: I'm just not buying that the companies are intending to manipulate the gender stereotypes. It's aimed at the largely accurate trends between the genders in an effort to sell more things. Nobody is telling your little girl who or what to be like. Tell them that and don't be upset when they're complimented.

They aren't exactly manipulating gender stereotypes, but they're most certainly doing everything in their power to ensure that they literally grow a customer base. Sell the parents on "Princess" (ie: Girl) crap for their daughters and "Sports" (ie: Boy) crap for their sons before the kids are even born and the people surrounding the parents will inevitably follow the lead of the parents, sending "Princess" crap to the girl for birthdays, anniversaries, "It's Tuesday and I was thinking of you." days, etc. The girl grows into consciousness surrounded by "Princess" crap and it's what she begins to like.

Then she gets older and what does she ask her parents for (or demand)? "Princess" crap. Why? That's what she's always had, what she's always been given and what she's come to think of as "Hers". You toss in some of the other idiocy around it (just look at "Princess" Lego...) and suddenly those gender stereotypes are everywhere. Serious, go look down the toy aisle at Toys R Us or Wal-Mart or Target or whatever store sells toys and just look at the toys that are "Princess" toys. Lego shopping malls. EZ Bake ovens. Pink convertibles. Lots of miniskirts and high heel shoes on the dolls. MAYBE, if you're lucky, you'll see some doctors outfits, but mostly you're going to see just nurses and debutante outfits.

It may not be "Let's Manipulate the Gender Stereotypes!" but at the very, very least it's exploiting them to ensure a customer base literally grows up with them.


I'd be inclined to believe it would be just as easy to do that (if not easier) without including gender specific toys where you have to make two contrasting things, instead of the same thing over and over. I think kids also simply notice the difference between their two parents or the people around them. I mean, I'm no expert but, I just don't understand this fully and would like to know more.
 
2014-03-08 05:25:29 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Saying that because women are less likely to work in STEM fields that they are resigned to cleaning shiat is just ignorant.


I completely agree with this statement.  I am able to read an entire article and see the various points being made without having to make one blanket response.  Which is why the generalized replies to the pictures included annoyed me.

It is encouraging that schools are making more of an effort to increase their STEM curriculum for everyone.
 
2014-03-08 05:25:34 PM  

Bender The Offender: No Such Agency: To be fair those posters are pretty bad. Kids absorb the gender role limitations, spoken or unspoken, that we immerse them in. I don't mind pink but I'd love to see a pink shirt aimed at my daughter... that has dump tricks or dinosaurs or any one of the other things she should feel free to like, even if she also likes pink.

My daughter wanted to be a paleontologist from 4-7, she even named her first dog "Fossil". There are plenty pink shirts out there with dinosaurs on them. There are purple sweats with dinosaurs on them. There are nightgowns and t-shirts with dinosaurs on them as well. There are lamps, desks, and bedding. If you can't find dinosaur stuff for a girl, it's from poor effort on your part.


Now this is something positive. good job.
 
2014-03-08 05:26:28 PM  

bunner: Dafatone: Christ, this thread is full of assholes.

The straight-up "she's a woman blogging so she must suck!" is to be expected.  But the winner are the couple of "Well, yeah.  Girls should be like that because that's what I'm attracted to" idiots.

You forgot all the people braying about how all the other people posting here are idiots.


And all the "I'm (or my daughter) is not like all the other girls" posts.
 
2014-03-08 05:26:49 PM  

Bender The Offender: Oh, and you want to talk about gender neutral parenting? My daughter;s dreams of paleontology have died, she has now set her sights on becoming a government funded assassin for the CIA. She's 13 now. I've taken her shooting, teaching her to shoot both a Glock 19 and an AR 15. Everyone has told her how pretty she is her entire life. That has done nothing to dissuade her from her dreams of murder and world domination. Parenting makes all the difference.

/the assassin and teaching her to shoot thing are 100% true


I find this strangely comforting.
 
2014-03-08 05:27:11 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Bender The Offender: That has done nothing to dissuade her from her dreams of murder and world domination. Parenting makes all the difference.

Your daughter is Arya?


No as cool as that would be, I've got to say no. that would make me Ned. I don't want to be Ned. I don't want to be any kind of Stark given the shiat that happens to them.
 
2014-03-08 05:29:06 PM  
How much for the little girl? How much for the women?  Your women. I want to buy your women. The little girl, your daughters... sell them to me. Sell me your children!
 
2014-03-08 05:33:42 PM  

socially inept was taken: It is encouraging that schools are making more of an effort to increase their STEM curriculum for everyone.


Yeah, we definitely need more of that. As computers grow increasingly complex, they will become more and more of a blackbox. Everyone always says "oh, kids today know computer so well because they grew up with them." But 95% of kids can really only consume content that is created for them on facebook and the itunes store.
 
2014-03-08 05:34:35 PM  
You know, lots of people wish SOMEONE would tell them they are pretty.
 
2014-03-08 05:34:52 PM  

Pattuq: I don't know about anyone else, but I like pretty, feminine "stereotypical" girls.  I'm not interested in dating or marrying another man.  I've met quite a few young women who behave like stereotypical men (rude, abrasive, macho) and it's a huge turn-off. 

My wife does girly things and looks feminine, yet is also smart enough to use her brain by thinking independently - something that following the pink poster does not automatically prevent, as many feminists seem to believe.  I will be teaching any future daughters I have the value of femininity, but also that of learning, creativity and independent thought.  The only people who seem to think those two things are mutually exclusive are feminists, which only shows how flawed and narrow their view really are.


I think you don't know what feminism is. If you'll be "teaching any future daughters [you] have the value of femininity, because "women who behave like stereotypical men...[is] a huge turn-off," you might want to consider teaching your daughter that life's not about pleasing men. Or you can be an unfit parent. Your call.
 
2014-03-08 05:39:09 PM  

Bender The Offender: Oh, and you want to talk about gender neutral parenting? My daughter;s dreams of paleontology have died, she has now set her sights on becoming a government funded assassin for the CIA. She's 13 now. I've taken her shooting, teaching her to shoot both a Glock 19 and an AR 15. Everyone has told her how pretty she is her entire life. That has done nothing to dissuade her from her dreams of murder and world domination. Parenting makes all the difference.

/the assassin and teaching her to shoot thing are 100% true




World domination is a little bit too high profile for a professional assassin isn't it?

I can understand it as sort of a box that must be checked as a means of moving up toward global ruler

Also remember she will need a fall back in case the assassin career does not work out so make sure her sandwich making and ironing skills are up to snuff for a future hubby.

Oh and 9mm, really?
 
2014-03-08 05:39:14 PM  
Boys and girls are different.  Things that are different cannot be equal.
But if advertising is having more influence on your spawn than you as a parent are, then you are a horrible parent.  You could try talking with your daughter and ask her which poster she would rather have, but then you'd have to actually talk to your child.  Just put her in front of the TV with "High School Musical" on and go back to checking the messages on your iPhone like a normal mother.
 
2014-03-08 05:41:38 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: I think that as a man that if I were to comment that a little boy is cute or pretty it would not be beneficial to my face or crotch region


As someone who had had many grandmothers and aunts over the years.

 You tell little boys they are "cute" and "handsome".

/they totally dig it too, til they hit puberty. lol!
 
2014-03-08 05:42:25 PM  

No Such Agency: To be fair those posters are pretty bad. Kids absorb the gender role limitations, spoken or unspoken, that we immerse them in. I don't mind pink but I'd love to see a pink shirt aimed at my daughter... that has dump tricks or dinosaurs or any one of the other things she should feel free to like, even if she also likes pink.


If you want to make your dinosaur loving daughter really happy, buy her one of these:
http://chalkstore.com.au/dinosaur-kit-tyranosaurus-rex.html
My daughter absolutely loved these. She went through a whole bunch of them and kept them together as a herd of undead dinosaurs. Creepy, but cute.
 
2014-03-08 05:44:52 PM  
I've dated women who could be supermodels, women who - according to my friends - were sort of "sketchy looking".  I thought they were pretty.  I've known women who can drive a pro sticker at 170 MPH in the quarter mile and had the reflexes of a leopard.  I've works some amazingly talented female musicians and knew a woman sound engineer who laid down down one of the bets live mixes I've ever heard.  Mud ugly, traffic stopping, dumb as mud, knew math like I know how to scratch my ass, great cooks, lousy cooks, hypocrites, honest and compassionate, riggers and stage techs, mechanics, needlework and sheet of cookies stay at home mom types who can take the balls off a gnat at 50' with a .9mm.  And you know?  I'm beginning to think they're all, what's the... yeah, individuals with various strengths and limitations.  Sort of like men.  I doubt that any child who can count to potato is going to let their world view be influenced for ever by a poster.  Kids aren't that stupid.
 
2014-03-08 05:46:06 PM  
I also can't type.
 
2014-03-08 05:46:27 PM  

hasty ambush: Bender The Offender: Oh, and you want to talk about gender neutral parenting? My daughter;s dreams of paleontology have died, she has now set her sights on becoming a government funded assassin for the CIA. She's 13 now. I've taken her shooting, teaching her to shoot both a Glock 19 and an AR 15. Everyone has told her how pretty she is her entire life. That has done nothing to dissuade her from her dreams of murder and world domination. Parenting makes all the difference.

/the assassin and teaching her to shoot thing are 100% true

World domination is a little bit too high profile for a professional assassin isn't it?

I can understand it as sort of a box that must be checked as a means of moving up toward global ruler

Also remember she will need a fall back in case the assassin career does not work out so make sure her sandwich making and ironing skills are up to snuff for a future hubby.

Oh and 9mm, really?


It's not for me to kill her dreams, I'll let the government do that for her. As for the 9mm, I was a 91B. The only thing I carried was a 9 (well, in basic the M-16, hence the AR 15), so that's what she gets trained with. I imagine I could train her with a .22 since 2 behind the ear is probably going to be her go to shot, but I'm not rich and I only have a limited number of firearms.
 
2014-03-08 05:46:39 PM  
She wasn't afraid of hurting herself. She was afraid of not being good enough and looking bad.

Hate to break it to you, lady, but your kid might just be a narcissist.

But this has to be trolling... "Well smiling is on the girl's poster, and not on the boy's, therefore society doesn't like boys to smile." The hell?
 
2014-03-08 05:52:06 PM  
Montessori or home schooled I am thinking.
 
2014-03-08 05:52:23 PM  
It's like a Choose Your Own Adventure Book for idiots:


It's a typical Sunday afternoon. You're yet again pontificating (via twitter) to your 23 followers. Suddenly, someone posts some "Dream Big" posters to your twitter feed. You find these posters somewhat objectionable. What do you do?

To ignore them and actually "parent" your daughter yourself, turn to page 23.
To passive-aggressively post your histrionic outrage to your "blog" (and thus confirm what an awesome and progressive individual you are), turn to page 55.
 
2014-03-08 05:52:39 PM  
pro stocker.  Good Lord, I can't type.  :  \
 
2014-03-08 05:53:24 PM  

FizixJunkee: socially inept was taken: I think she has a point...

At the risk of sounding like a sandy vagina-haver, let me say "this."

We try to minimize any appearance-related comments to our daughter, and focus on more important attributes, like how smart she is, how creative she is, etc.

And I don't know if because of how we've raised her, or just plain ol' genetics, but the kid is ever-so-slightly tomboyish (though not nearly to the degree I was when I was her age...at least she'll wear pink, for example). She also loves video games, MythBusters, and Bizarre Foods.

/she actually *is* smart
//she has a physicist and mathematician for parents
///she and her dad spend hours each day playing video games together


Just to keep things interesting...

 I was made to wear very pretty and cute dresses as a child. Also pink clothes and such when my parents chose them. (Eventually I decided on blue jeans because they held up to my playing better).  I was told I was cute, adorable, lovely ect... all through growing up. During my teen years more than one person suggested I be a model. At the same time my parents demanded I apply myself at my best in school work, sports and art (whatever I was doing) and so I generally came back above average-extremely good depending on what I was doing.

 Now that I'm in my 30s, I'm still a geeky tomboy who loves archery, dogsledding, hiking, hunting, fishing, baseball/fastpitch, volleyball, computer games, coding, fixing my jeep and all kinds of science fiction.

 I'm pretty independently minded though, so that might've been a factor.

/tells her son he's cute/handsome along with other compliments about his hardwork and accomplishments
//he likes engineering and has taken an interest in horseback archery
///dad builds video games, mom is a school bus driver while building her own online business/blog
 
2014-03-08 05:56:16 PM  

cuzsis: FizixJunkee: socially inept was taken: I think she has a point...

At the risk of sounding like a sandy vagina-haver, let me say "this."

We try to minimize any appearance-related comments to our daughter, and focus on more important attributes, like how smart she is, how creative she is, etc.

And I don't know if because of how we've raised her, or just plain ol' genetics, but the kid is ever-so-slightly tomboyish (though not nearly to the degree I was when I was her age...at least she'll wear pink, for example). She also loves video games, MythBusters, and Bizarre Foods.

/she actually *is* smart
//she has a physicist and mathematician for parents
///she and her dad spend hours each day playing video games together

Just to keep things interesting...

 I was made to wear very pretty and cute dresses as a child. Also pink clothes and such when my parents chose them. (Eventually I decided on blue jeans because they held up to my playing better).  I was told I was cute, adorable, lovely ect... all through growing up. During my teen years more than one person suggested I be a model. At the same time my parents demanded I apply myself at my best in school work, sports and art (whatever I was doing) and so I generally came back above average-extremely good depending on what I was doing.

 Now that I'm in my 30s, I'm still a geeky tomboy who loves archery, dogsledding, hiking, hunting, fishing, baseball/fastpitch, volleyball, computer games, coding, fixing my jeep and all kinds of science fiction.

 I'm pretty independently minded though, so that might've been a factor.

/tells her son he's cute/handsome along with other compliments about his hardwork and accomplishments
//he likes engineering and has taken an interest in horseback archery
///dad builds video games, mom is a school bus driver while building her own online business/blog



Jesus H Christ. Do you people ever get sore arms from all that patting yourselves on the back?

/your blog sucks
 
2014-03-08 05:56:18 PM  

bunner: pro stocker.  Good Lord, I can't type.  :  \


now I'm hungry for pot stickers
cdn.naturallyella.com
 
2014-03-08 06:01:11 PM  

Mark Ratner: bunner: pro stocker.  Good Lord, I can't type.  :  \

now I'm hungry for pot stickers


static2.wikia.nocookie.net 

         "Pot stickah?  POT stickah!"
 
2014-03-08 06:04:32 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: So then buy the blue poster, you stupid twat.

You're biatching about gender stereotyping, then adhering to "pink is for girls, blue is for boys".


Maybe she thinks the one headed "you are a princess" is aimed at girls. It would certainly be a little harder to persuade boys that it applied to them than the other way round.
 
2014-03-08 06:04:43 PM  

Hermione_Granger:
Yeah, because boys go around told to be a princesses. It's not just the color, it's the content of the posters.


No Such Agency: To be fair those posters are pretty bad. Kids absorb the gender role limitations, spoken or unspoken, that we immerse them in. I don't mind pink but I'd love to see a pink shirt aimed at my daughter... that has dump tricks or dinosaurs or any one of the other things she should feel free to like, even if she also likes pink.


socially inept was taken: I think she has a point and you are all just sadly parroting the first one to post. Perhaps read the article and make your own judgment. Or don't. It's probably too much for you to comprehend anyway.


R1mbaud: I'd be inclined to believe it would be just as easy to do that (if not easier) without including gender specific toys where you have to make two contrasting things, instead of the same thing over and over. I think kids also simply notice the difference between their two parents or the people around them. I mean, I'm no expert but, I just don't understand this fully and would like to know more.


Sexual dimorphism in sociability has been documented in humans. The present study aimed to
ascertain whether the sexual dimorphism is a result of biological or socio-cultural differences between
the two sexes. 102 human neonates, who by definition have not yet been influenced by social and
cultural factors, were tested to see if there was a difference in looking time at a face (social object)
and a mobile (physical-mechanical object). Results showed that the male infants showed a stronger
interest in the physical-mechanical mobile while the female infants showed a stronger interest in the
face. The results of this research clearly demonstrate that sex differences are in part biological in
origin.

Sex differences in human neonatal social perception
Jennifer Connellana, Simon Baron-Cohena,*, Sally Wheelwrighta, Anna Batkia, Jag Ahluwaliab

Departments of Experimental Psychology and Psychiatry, Autism Research Centre, Cambridge University,
Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3EB, UK

interstellar_tedium: Sorry male and I agree with her, if you just have the knee jerk "feminism bad" response to anything like this then I feel sorry for all the females in your life.


It is almost like different genders are born differently...

/A man who likes to suck dicks? Born that way
//Woman in a non-STEM profession? Victim of the Patriarchy
 
2014-03-08 06:07:52 PM  

orbister: FirstNationalBastard: So then buy the blue poster, you stupid twat.

You're biatching about gender stereotyping, then adhering to "pink is for girls, blue is for boys".

Maybe she thinks the one headed "you are a princess" is aimed at girls. It would certainly be a little harder to persuade boys that it applied to them than the other way round.


Which would be relevant, if she had a son instead of a daughter.
 
2014-03-08 06:10:52 PM  
Maybe we need an MRA to explain that under boys they have "sleep under the stars" and under girls they have "reach for the stars." Who is being encouraged to be a hobo and who is being encouraged to be an astronaut?
 
2014-03-08 06:11:16 PM  

orbister: FirstNationalBastard: So then buy the blue poster, you stupid twat.


You're biatching about gender stereotyping, then adhering to "pink is for girls, blue is for boys".


Maybe she thinks the one headed "you are a princess" is aimed at girls. It would certainly be a little harder to persuade boys that it applied to them than the other way round.



Did you know that, up until the early 20th c., pink was the boy's color and blue was for girls?   No, seriously.
 
2014-03-08 06:13:13 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
www.quickmeme.com

cdn.uproxx.com
 
2014-03-08 06:15:44 PM  
I find those posters to be offensive as well. Children need to know the truth early on, that "fairy tales" and "home run" aren't single words.
 
2014-03-08 06:19:20 PM  

bratface: I spent yesterday afternoon watching my kids learn to skateboard. In between suppressing mental flashes of horrific child vs. pavement encounters, I noticed something: My son was a gung-ho, scraped-knees-be-damned force of nature, while my daughter held back, reticent and hesitant. When I asked her why, she said she was afraid of "doing it wrong".

Well Ms. Parmar, your daughter is only 6, so her reticence and hesitation was most likely learned at home.  So who do you blame now?
Also the 'doing it wrong' will most likely lead to getting hurt so being a bit 'reticent' seems pretty smart to me.

Yes I know she will never read this but I had to say it!


I was thinking more along the lines of " there's boys that act like that too". As much as she would like a gender neutral upbringing for her daughter, she also needs to realize kids are individuals and don't necessarily have to like the same things.
 
2014-03-08 06:19:47 PM  
And so you see, just maybe, most of this is vain malarkey that has nothing do do with how children feel about themselves or view this little blue planet or their place on it.
 
2014-03-08 06:21:34 PM  
Fano:

The CEO also needs to do something about that cro-magnon facial structure.
 
2014-03-08 06:22:35 PM  
So, if your daughter is sitting there like a lump, not skateboarding, how is anyone going to comment on anything other than how pretty she is? It's like telling a boy sitting around quietly that he's "nice."
 
2014-03-08 06:23:15 PM  

Savage Belief: Fano:

The CEO also needs to do something about that cro-magnon facial structure.


He might be the Aryan Vandal Savage, you got that right.
 
2014-03-08 06:23:36 PM  

Bender The Offender: If you can't find dinosaur stuff for a girl, it's from poor effort on your part.


Well there's all the "cute dinosaur" stuff.  And that's fine but my point is that kids' clothes and toys are still strongly segregated by gender, and it's not just that I'm too lazy to find the imaginary depot crammed with less-stereotyically-gendered clothes.
 
2014-03-08 06:25:03 PM  
She wasn't afraid of hurting herself. She was afraid of not being good enough and looking bad. It didn't make sense - who was watching? Who would care? Why should it matter if she got it right as long as she was enjoying herself?

Oh dear. As someone who was like that as a child (except not a girl), I feel very bad for this kid. Rather than being accepting and encouraging, this mother has decided that her daughter has been broken by society and that this particular personality trait is the wrong way to be.

I'm sure it'll do wonders for the daughter's self-esteem.

/Otherwise, though, mommy's got a point and it's something I've noticed, myself. Compliments to girls are so disproportionately about looks that compliments about anything else are often used euphemistically for saying that someone is ugly. (See: She's got a great personality).
 
2014-03-08 06:26:09 PM  

orbister: Maybe she thinks the one headed "you are a princess" is aimed at girls. It would certainly be a little harder to persuade boys that it applied to them than the other way round.


Maybe it was supposed to be "prince/ss", and it was accidentally sanitized.
 
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