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2014-03-08 12:47:10 PM  

Semantic Warrior: DubyaHater: Yes, the south sucks so bad, I hear northern accents everywhere I go in Virginia and North Carolina. It must be so horrible here that New Yorkers and their like move here in droves. When I lived in NC, most of my co-workers were from up north.
/Try harder Huff Post

A lot of people smoke meth too; doesn't mean that it doesn't suck.


Big talk from someone who lives in Michigan.
 
2014-03-08 12:47:25 PM  

Hollie Maea: Nadie_AZ: The South isn't about Conservatism. It is about maintaining an autocratic hold over the poor and middle classes. Why is racism so strong there? The wealthy convinced the poor whites that while they were poor, at least they weren't black. And a black person is less than a white person -even if that black person were rich an the white person were poor.

If the poor and middle classes ever figure this out, they may have their own little civil war down the line.

So, conservatism.


Pretty much.
 
2014-03-08 12:47:35 PM  

LeroyBourne: I don't know, this winter has drained my will to live.  *looks outside, it's almost 30F*  Never mind, think I'll go for a walk later.


Right? One day it's 80s and sunny, the next day it's ICEMAGEDDON!!!!1! Then it's 80s again. Then another ice storm.

/but I'm sure global climate change is just a myth or something
 
2014-03-08 12:48:01 PM  

macadamnut: Phinn: County-by-county provides more useful information.

So what is "American" ancestry on that map?


I wondered that myself.  The Census Bureau, being a government operation, apparently can't do anything right.
 
2014-03-08 12:48:04 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Well, at least it didn't take long for the stormfront crowd to make an appearance in this thread....


Well said. Phins show up on schedule here.
 
2014-03-08 12:50:21 PM  

Delay: fundamental Christian theocracy


Delay, you used the term 'fundamental Christian theocracy'. Don't use the term 'fundamental Christian theocracy'. Anyone who uses the term 'fundamental Christian theocracy' with a straight face is a farktard and/or lunatic.
 
2014-03-08 12:50:25 PM  

Phinn: FTFA: "If you want to achieve the American Dream, don't move to the South."

I seem to remember something about correlation not being the same as causation ... I don't know, something about science ...

Anyway, it's hard to tell anything by using a state-level of granularity.  County-by-county provides more useful information.

[xahlee.org image 850x632]


Wow.   Perhaps I am not interpreting that chart correctly, but it looks like the Germans and Mexicans have pretty much taken over the country.

I suppose the south will rise again.
 
2014-03-08 12:51:02 PM  

The water was cold: I love reading comments that bash the South, while I sit on the beach and watch bikinis stroll by.


I hate the beach. Far too much sand, and the ocean smells like dead fish farts.
 
2014-03-08 12:51:21 PM  

Phinn: FTFA: "If you want to achieve the American Dream, don't move to the South."

I seem to remember something about correlation not being the same as causation ... I don't know, something about science ...

Anyway, it's hard to tell anything by using a state-level of granularity.  County-by-county provides more useful information.

[xahlee.org image 850x632]


The canary yellow actually says a lot. A number of my ancestors  came here between 1902 and 1906, and others up to 100 years earlier and 20 years later... At what point would I stop answering my "ancestry" as German, Irish, French-Canadian-Indian, etc, and just claim "American"?
 
2014-03-08 12:51:49 PM  
where is the map showing batshiat insane political/religious beliefs?
 
2014-03-08 12:52:12 PM  

macadamnut: Phinn: County-by-county provides more useful information.

So what is "American" ancestry on that map?


Scots-Irish (hillbilly, redneck, Cleti)
The disposable underclass.
White Trash.
 
2014-03-08 12:52:32 PM  

Mrbogey: Look, every non-Southerner needs to know this.

The South sucks. NEVER EVER move to the south. Stay in the North and the West and don't move to the South.



Done and DONE.
 
2014-03-08 12:53:21 PM  

The water was cold: I love reading comments that bash the South, while I sit on the beach and watch bikinis stroll by.


Yeah those bikini babes are gonna' flock to the guy posting on Fark from his phone. You're on one of those lists aren't you ?
 
2014-03-08 12:54:01 PM  

Phinn: macadamnut: Phinn: County-by-county provides more useful information.

So what is "American" ancestry on that map?

I wondered that myself.  The Census Bureau, being a government operation, apparently can't do anything right.


I wouldn't blame the Census Bureau.

They probably went to these houses and got told 'Merican.
 
2014-03-08 12:54:27 PM  

Soonerpsycho: Bslim: That, and it's full of southerners

And poor black Democrats

[i.imgur.com image 850x656]


Sorta true -- they're why white politicians don't want to expand social spending.
 
2014-03-08 12:54:33 PM  

macadamnut: Phinn: County-by-county provides more useful information.

So what is "American" ancestry on that map?


I assume people who don't actually know enough of their family ancestry.  Surnames alone can't tell you all you need to know about your national background, and if there's an adoption of some sort along the way, you'd really never know for sure.  I only know as much as I do about my ancestry because my grandfather has spent a lot of time documenting information about my immigrant ancestors.

A few careless generations would be all you'd need to simply not know your ancestry.
 
2014-03-08 12:56:14 PM  

Arkanaut: Soonerpsycho: Bslim: That, and it's full of southerners

And poor black Democrats

[i.imgur.com image 850x656]

Sorta true -- they're why white politicians don't want to expand social spending.


Which also hurts poor whites, by the way. Should have added that.
 
2014-03-08 12:56:35 PM  

DubyaHater: Yes, the south sucks so bad, I hear northern accents everywhere I go in Virginia and North Carolina. It must be so horrible here that New Yorkers and their like move here in droves. When I lived in NC, most of my co-workers were from up north.
/Try harder Huff Post


And every one of your coworkers always said how much better it was where they came from. I have a brother in law on Long Island that pays twelve grand a year in taxes. I have a similar home in NC and pay eighteen hundred.
 
2014-03-08 12:57:59 PM  

Dinki: wambu: Nobody ever retires and "moves North".

The only thing the south has going for it is the weather.


I've lived in Detroit, Dallas, Philadelphia, Oakland and Norfolk. My experience says your are wrong.
 
2014-03-08 12:58:12 PM  
FTFA: "If you want to achieve the American Dream, don't move to the South."


Ted Turner and Bernie Marcus might disagree.

But, Atlanta really isn't the South.
 
2014-03-08 12:58:13 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: where is the map showing batshiat insane political/religious beliefs?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-08 12:59:32 PM  

DubyaHater: Semantic Warrior: DubyaHater: Yes, the south sucks so bad, I hear northern accents everywhere I go in Virginia and North Carolina. It must be so horrible here that New Yorkers and their like move here in droves. When I lived in NC, most of my co-workers were from up north.
/Try harder Huff Post

A lot of people smoke meth too; doesn't mean that it doesn't suck.

Big talk from someone who lives in Michigan.


I'm not necessarily saying that the south is as bad or worse than meth, I'm just saying that your argument about people originally from the north living in the south doesn't disprove that the south sucks. 
I'm originally from WI and yes, now live in Michigan, it doesn't mean that Michigan doesn't suck (WTF is this emergency manager fascist crap?), I only moved here because I had to see about a girl.
 
2014-03-08 01:03:53 PM  

skinink: Coincidentally the states with the worst poverty levels are located in Jesus Land. Where is your God now?


Jesus loves the poor. It's rich folk that are getting the Redball Express to the Fiery Lakes of Hell.
 
2014-03-08 01:05:12 PM  

Nadie_AZ: The South isn't about Conservatism. It is about maintaining an autocratic hold over the poor and middle classes. Why is racism so strong there? The wealthy convinced the poor whites that while they were poor, at least they weren't black. And a black person is less than a white person -even if that black person were rich an the white person were poor.

If the poor and middle classes ever figure this out, they may have their own little civil war down the line.


That is fark'n stupid. So what you are saying is ALL minorities no matter color or creed are ubber wealthy up north?. Tool.
 
2014-03-08 01:05:14 PM  
macadamnut

So what is "American" ancestry on that map?

Scotch-Irish. An archaic term the people themselves no longer use, seeing themselves simply as (true) Americans. Largely Protestants that settled what was, in the day, backcountry.
 
2014-03-08 01:07:35 PM  
In short the south sucks. Don't come here, we're fine with that.

Especially you ultra-liberals trying to escape the result of your political policies. We see more and more every day.
 
2014-03-08 01:07:39 PM  

cman

Whats that thing called again? You know, hating people for growing up in a different culture?

democrat.
 
2014-03-08 01:08:23 PM  

Johnsnownw: The water was cold: I love reading comments that bash the South, while I sit on the beach and watch bikinis stroll by.

I hate the beach. Far too much sand, and the ocean smells like dead fish farts.


ts3.mm.bing.net
"Water? Never touch the stuff. Fish fark in it."
 
2014-03-08 01:08:47 PM  

jacknifetrucker: Nadie_AZ: The South isn't about Conservatism. It is about maintaining an autocratic hold over the poor and middle classes. Why is racism so strong there? The wealthy convinced the poor whites that while they were poor, at least they weren't black. And a black person is less than a white person -even if that black person were rich an the white person were poor.

If the poor and middle classes ever figure this out, they may have their own little civil war down the line.

That is fark'n stupid. So what you are saying is ALL minorities no matter color or creed are ubber wealthy up north?. Tool.


That's not what he's saying at all.  Stop.  Calm down.  Take a deep breath and re-read what he posted.  Then sit and think about it for a few minutes before slapping your hands on the keyboard again.
 
2014-03-08 01:09:13 PM  

Sammichless: The problem is they don't have enough good paying jobs there. All of these maps can basically be explained by that one statement.

The South is Conservative. They believe that Liberal tax rates, unions, business regulations, etc. are hostile to business..... The obvious answer is that they need to be more friendly to attract jobs.

Nevermind that the good paying jobs have been concentrated in the most Liberal states forever.

enry: Obviously these states aren't conservative enough.

Yup.


Were they liberal when the industries that pay these jobs moved there because of geography?  Nope.  The jobs stay there because of geography, not because they are liberal.  You've got your cart in front of the horse.
 
2014-03-08 01:10:18 PM  
Another article bashing the South? It's like all the people sniffing their own farts have some sort of inferiority complex and have to remind themselves of how superior they are.
 
2014-03-08 01:10:36 PM  
What does the Northern Poverty Law Center say about all this?

There isn't one?
 
2014-03-08 01:10:55 PM  

Semantic Warrior: DubyaHater: Semantic Warrior: DubyaHater: Yes, the south sucks so bad, I hear northern accents everywhere I go in Virginia and North Carolina. It must be so horrible here that New Yorkers and their like move here in droves. When I lived in NC, most of my co-workers were from up north.
/Try harder Huff Post

A lot of people smoke meth too; doesn't mean that it doesn't suck.

Big talk from someone who lives in Michigan.

I'm not necessarily saying that the south is as bad or worse than meth, I'm just saying that your argument about people originally from the north living in the south doesn't disprove that the south sucks.
I'm originally from WI and yes, now live in Michigan, it doesn't mean that Michigan doesn't suck (WTF is this emergency manager fascist crap?), I only moved here because I had to see about a girl.


I remember I picked my college because of that. Luckily everything turned out alright.
 
2014-03-08 01:10:58 PM  

OnlyM3: cman

Whats that thing called again? You know, hating people for growing up in a different culture?
democrat.


Progressive. There's no ideology more oppressive, elitist, condescending and self-important than that bunch of control freaks.
 
2014-03-08 01:13:03 PM  

FlashHarry: ah, yes. the great conservative experiment goes on.


Ever see that video of some typical Southerners saying that they'd rather go broke and die hungry than to give up on their "moral beliefs"? They damn well know that they're voting against their own interests, and they want it to get even worse for themselves and their children just because they cannot stand the idea of a Progressive world. Absolute, suicidal madness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlT1OMGD28
 
2014-03-08 01:13:54 PM  

oh_please: Another article bashing the South? It's like all the people sniffing their own farts have some sort of inferiority complex and have to remind themselves of how superior they are.


Actually the article isn't bashing the south at all the submitter's headline is. The article is suggesting that southerners need to expect better from the elected officials.
 
2014-03-08 01:14:00 PM  
I could post some maps showing the South's legacy and global imprint on American Music, Literature, food, iconic architecture et al. but I'm too fat lazy and poor.
 
2014-03-08 01:14:57 PM  

cman: Whats that thing called again? You know, hating people for growing up in a different culture?


More like the WRONG culture.

(Yes, I know you posted in the wrong thread. But Mississippi still sucks and it's chock full of Fail)
 
2014-03-08 01:17:30 PM  

Farty McPooPants: Sammichless: The problem is they don't have enough good paying jobs there. All of these maps can basically be explained by that one statement.

The South is Conservative. They believe that Liberal tax rates, unions, business regulations, etc. are hostile to business..... The obvious answer is that they need to be more friendly to attract jobs.

Nevermind that the good paying jobs have been concentrated in the most Liberal states forever.

enry: Obviously these states aren't conservative enough.

Yup.

Were they liberal when the industries that pay these jobs moved there because of geography?  Nope.  The jobs stay there because of geography, not because they are liberal.  You've got your cart in front of the horse.


The industries move here constantly. We provide what businesses need to operate. We have more modern port terminals, more miles of train track, more lanes on our highways, larger investments in higher education. You know, tax and spend stuff.

Conservatives wish to provide companies with what they want..... but, they don't collect enough revenue to first provide companies with what they need first.

If a lot more businesses could set up proper supply chains in the south, they would move there.
 
2014-03-08 01:19:06 PM  

Delay: Dinki: wambu: Nobody ever retires and "moves North".

The only thing the south has going for it is the weather.

Not so much. There have been great southern authors, such as Faulkner. Southern folks helped create the United States constitution.


LOL! Southern folks sided with the British during the Revolutionary War. They've had a hatred for the United States since the very beginning.
 
2014-03-08 01:19:40 PM  
Why must the War of Northern Aggression continue to be fought? We get it, you don't like us. We tried to leave, you didn't like that so much that you sent hundreds of thousands of troops to burn, rape and pillage their way through the South, and contiue to brag about that (i.e. Sherman). You don't like us so much that your retireds flock here in droves, to pollute the air with complaints about how horrible this place they chose to move to is. Look Yankees, I'll be the first to say it; Sorry. Sorry The South is so terrible, that you just have to henpeck us every chance you get. Jeeze, get a hobby!

Also

"Hey, look at these population center maps that can be twisted to fit my rhetoric!"
 
2014-03-08 01:20:22 PM  
Hmm, seem to recall a bunch of stories linked from fark that painted a, "it's not so bad here" view of the South. Growing infrastructure, better or improving schools, and growing businesses. Add to that the population seems to be more women than men ... Exactly the opposite of Colorado, and women here know it.
 
2014-03-08 01:20:22 PM  

OnlyM3: cman

Whats that thing called again? You know, hating people for growing up in a different culture?
democrat.


1/10  you need to work on your trolling.
 
2014-03-08 01:21:11 PM  
Ah yes, the thread where we get told for the umpteen billionth time we are backward and wrong. Go ahead, take your turn on the podium  explaining how much more enlightened the North and West is compared to us. Every single one of us is a racist, homophobic, Neanderthal. All it takes is one "y'all" and it's ok to deny us employment, business, or even common courtesy.

Meanwhile, Florida is about to overtake New York as the second most populated state. Two-thirds of the population isn't originally from Florida. The two worst things to happen to Florida ever were I-75 and I-95. Easily 2/3 of the Florida tag is owned by New York/New Jersey and Ohio/Michigan.

/I hope Neil Young will remember
//A southern man don't need him around anyhow.
 
2014-03-08 01:21:24 PM  

skinink: Coincidentally the states with the worst poverty levels are located in Jesus Land. Where is your God now?
[i.huffpost.com image 570x411]


Blessed are the poor in intelligence for they shall see God in pancakes, burritos and dogs' arseholes
 
2014-03-08 01:21:45 PM  

Mrbogey: Look, every non-Southerner needs to know this.

The South sucks. NEVER EVER move to the south. Stay in the North and the West and don't move to the South. If you're in the South and you think Clifornia is a well managed place, you need to move there ASAP. You're clearly wasting your talent there.

We really need to reverse this migratory trend of non-Southerners moving into Southern states as most clearly never heard of how bad it is there.


No need to underplay this.  Southern charm? Bull.  Hospitality?  Bull and more bull.  Southern white peoples are far and away the most entitled humans in 'Murica.  Not all y'all, just those of you who believe you are not.

Must be all these years of beating up on those below your station.  Oh, and the Jesus thing.  Your major accomplishments include Lynyrd Skynyrd, LBJ, and Fried every-farking-thing.  The Fried every-farking-thing is at least somewhat tolerable on occassion.

The addition of Texas oil money into the mix is what made it go from bad to worse.  And Fox News.  New Jersey is glorious and enchanting compared to the south.  Time to face the Karmic music!!!

/ how did I do?
// 7 of 10?
///save the Creoles.  Great food and music.
 
2014-03-08 01:22:35 PM  

macadamnut: [freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com image 765x591]


They should have given him ten more years of funding
 
2014-03-08 01:24:00 PM  

Billified: Ah yes, the thread where we get told for the umpteen billionth time we are backward and wrong. Go ahead, take your turn on the podium  explaining how much more enlightened the North and West is compared to us. Every single one of us is a racist, homophobic, Neanderthal. All it takes is one "y'all" and it's ok to deny us employment, business, or even common courtesy.

Meanwhile, Florida is about to overtake New York as the second most populated state. Two-thirds of the population isn't originally from Florida. The two worst things to happen to Florida ever were I-75 and I-95. Easily 2/3 of the Florida tag is owned by New York/New Jersey and Ohio/Michigan.

/I hope Neil Young will remember
//A southern man don't need him around anyhow.


And strangely enough, Florida is going bluer and bluer as its population increases.

Curious that.
 
2014-03-08 01:25:48 PM  

Billified: Ah yes, the thread where we get told for the umpteen billionth time we are backward and wrong.


Well it's apparent you are not aware of just how farked up and rock-stupid you are, or you wouldn't be electing hideous dipsh*ts like THIS to represent YOU and inflict your ignorance and assholery on a global scale:

intellihub.com 3.bp.blogspot.com thinkprogress.org

Seriously. Please. Stop it! Stop attacking the world with these abominations!!
 
2014-03-08 01:27:02 PM  

PolyHatSnake: Why must the War of Northern Aggression continue to be fought? We get it, you don't like us. We tried to leave, you didn't like that so much that you sent hundreds of thousands of troops to burn, rape and pillage their way through the South, and contiue to brag about that


www.legendsofamerica.com

It's a habit
 
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