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(Mirror.co.uk)   One Italian is listed among the missing on Malaysian Airlines flight. Problem: That guy is alive and well and living in Thailand, and reported his passport stolen months ago. So who was actually on the plane?   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 191
    More: Followup, Thailand, Italians, flights, Malaysia Airlines, South China Sea  
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2014-03-08 09:44:15 AM  
He's dead, Jim.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2014-03-08 09:45:06 AM  
Wasn't this a Sherlock Holmes episode?
 
2014-03-08 09:53:03 AM  
34st.com
 
2014-03-08 09:59:58 AM  
I just read that a second passenger was also using a stolen passport. Not a good sign.
 
2014-03-08 10:04:51 AM  
Yeah, the only link I have seen is in German, but apparently the one Austrian on the flight is actually alive and well in Austria, and had his passport stolen in Thailand a couple of years ago.

The plot thickens.
 
2014-03-08 10:36:51 AM  

queezyweezel: I just read that a second passenger was also using a stolen passport. Not a good sign.


Yep, an Austrian national who also had his passport stolen in Thailand.  Fishy for sure but how common is traveling on stolen passports?  Could have just been some unlucky drug smugglers I suppose.
 
2014-03-08 10:46:25 AM  
"So who was plane?" would have been funnier, subs
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-08 11:21:47 AM  
No one that he needs to worry about anymore.
 
2014-03-08 12:01:36 PM  
The rotten snake who stole his passport is on the plane.
 
2014-03-08 12:01:53 PM  
I suspect the authorities will piece it together who they really were.
 
2014-03-08 12:02:48 PM  

nekom: queezyweezel: I just read that a second passenger was also using a stolen passport. Not a good sign.

Yep, an Austrian national who also had his passport stolen in Thailand.  Fishy for sure but how common is traveling on stolen passports?  Could have just been some unlucky drug smugglers I suppose.


2 on one flight seems a little more than coincidental.
 
2014-03-08 12:03:54 PM  
Then who was phone?
 
2014-03-08 12:04:37 PM  
MFAWG:
2 on one flight seems a little more than coincidental.

Oh, it does and I definitely think they'll be looking into that, but I can't dismiss the possibility that some other miscellaneous criminals or would-be illegal immigrants just caught an unlucky break.
 
2014-03-08 12:04:58 PM  

schief2: Yeah, the only link I have seen is in German, but apparently the one Austrian on the flight is actually alive and well in Austria, and had his passport stolen in Thailand a couple of years ago.

The plot thickens.


I just read this too on a CBC link (can't find the article as I think it's been updated/replaced since I read it.) Very interesting and scary for whoever's family it may be.
 
2014-03-08 12:05:33 PM  
Two is coincidence, three is conspiracy.
 
2014-03-08 12:05:54 PM  

MFAWG: nekom: queezyweezel: I just read that a second passenger was also using a stolen passport. Not a good sign.

Yep, an Austrian national who also had his passport stolen in Thailand.  Fishy for sure but how common is traveling on stolen passports?  Could have just been some unlucky drug smugglers I suppose.

2 on one flight seems a little more than coincidental.


Don't go down this road.  That way lies madness, and tinfoil, and rense.com.
 
2014-03-08 12:07:57 PM  

DubyaHater: Then who was phone?


*shakes tiny fist*

But that was nothing compared to when I saw Cman's comment, because it beat me, AND was funnier.
 
2014-03-08 12:08:27 PM  
I guess he will be buried in Italy.
 
2014-03-08 12:09:02 PM  
The guy who stole his passport, maybe?
 
2014-03-08 12:10:03 PM  
Just because this was uncovered by a reporter making a phone call and not all of the security theater that airport security engages in means nothing.  All that manpower and technology is worthwhile.  In fact we should be increasing their funding to prevent these types of things in the future.
 
2014-03-08 12:10:46 PM  

vpb: No one that he needs to worry about anymore.


The implication is that they might have been terrorists, and bombed the plane, causing its demise. Quite definitely something that needs investigation and worrying about.
 
2014-03-08 12:11:07 PM  

MBK: Wasn't this a Sherlock Holmes episode?


That was my first thought as well.

And it's just Sherlock.
 
2014-03-08 12:11:10 PM  
Was the flight a red-eye? Or was it during the day?

Does anyone know, can anyone tell me? ARE WE LOOKING AT A REVERSE VAMPIRE MIGRATION????
 
2014-03-08 12:11:21 PM  

queezyweezel: I just read that a second passenger was also using a stolen passport. Not a good sign.


I'm not saying it was terrorists, but it was terrorists.
 
2014-03-08 12:12:34 PM  
http://orf.at/stories/2221258/2221257/  (German) story about the Austrian
 
2014-03-08 12:14:12 PM  
Carlos who just got back from Manchuria?
 
2014-03-08 12:14:22 PM  

MFAWG: nekom: queezyweezel: I just read that a second passenger was also using a stolen passport. Not a good sign.

Yep, an Austrian national who also had his passport stolen in Thailand.  Fishy for sure but how common is traveling on stolen passports?  Could have just been some unlucky drug smugglers I suppose.

2 on one flight seems a little more than coincidental.


If you assume they must be working in concert.  You only need 23 people in a group to get a 50% chance that any two share a birthday.  Depending upon the number of stolen passports floating around SE Asia (and the number of forgeries that can get by the Malay TSA), this could just indicate two dudes with stolen passport decided independently to go to Beijing.

Not to mention, it would be the most pathetic terror plot ever.  "Let's send a plane down in the Yellow Sea where nobody sees it, and the most likely explanation will be that there was a mechanical or human failure leading to an accidental crash.   That will strike fear into the world!"
 
2014-03-08 12:14:25 PM  

""I'm alive - I'm in Thailand!" he said."



Si alza i suoi calci sotto il giro vita, Luce del sole.

 
2014-03-08 12:14:44 PM  
How soon until this idea is made into a movie?
 
2014-03-08 12:15:18 PM  

cman: "So who was plane?" would have been funnier, subs


I would have gone with "Then who was passport?"
 
2014-03-08 12:15:19 PM  

nekom: Fishy for sure but how common is traveling on stolen passports?


What is more interesting to me is that it is even possible to do this in a modern country - which I would suggest Malaysia and China are.

I would think that a country (such as Austria) would permit a foreign country (such as Malaysia) to query validity of passports electronically if only to record when and where the passport was seen, in case you want to know where someone went.

Hell, I've called the US State Department myself to ask them to verify validity of a passport and they did it right over the phone without much hassle.
 
2014-03-08 12:15:53 PM  

phalamir: Not to mention, it would be the most pathetic terror plot ever. "Let's send a plane down in the Yellow Sea where nobody sees it, and the most likely explanation will be that there was a mechanical or human failure leading to an accidental crash. That will strike fear into the world!"


If it was a terror plot, they killed more than 200 people. That's not so pathetic.
 
2014-03-08 12:17:06 PM  
static.thecia.com.au

Did he "Bounce"?
 
2014-03-08 12:17:31 PM  
I suspect that wishing to enter China without alerting the authorities is not wildly unusual (North Korean dissidents for a start),
 
2014-03-08 12:17:35 PM  

nekom: http://orf.at/stories/2221258/2221257/  (German) story about the Austrian


Dammit boy, we speak 'murican round here.
 
2014-03-08 12:18:21 PM  
Guys who stole the passports are muslim terrorists who took down the plane, committing suicide in the process.
 
2014-03-08 12:19:13 PM  
A clue?  Or as Inspector Clouseau would say, "Eh Klew?"
 
2014-03-08 12:19:45 PM  

jayhawk88: Was the flight a red-eye? Or was it during the day?


I'd wager a red-eye since the plane disappeared at 2AM

/and I *really* doubt terrorists picking a fight with China will work out well for them
//since I doubt they give a shiat about 'cultural sensitivity' in the way we nominally do
 
2014-03-08 12:20:08 PM  
Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa
 
2014-03-08 12:20:11 PM  
Two stolen passports on the same plane.  Plane disappears at its theoretical safest point of the flight.  No apparent distress calls (I believe, could be wrong).  Interesting.
 
2014-03-08 12:20:14 PM  

SlothB77: Guys who stole the passports are muslim terrorists who took down the plane, committing suicide in the process.


Homicide bombers, if you will.
 
2014-03-08 12:20:17 PM  

cptjeff: phalamir: Not to mention, it would be the most pathetic terror plot ever. "Let's send a plane down in the Yellow Sea where nobody sees it, and the most likely explanation will be that there was a mechanical or human failure leading to an accidental crash. That will strike fear into the world!"

If it was a terror plot, they killed more than 200 people. That's not so pathetic.


Terrorism is first and foremost about publicity. Hence the "terror" part. Plausible deniability is what nation states do.
 
2014-03-08 12:20:37 PM  

SlothB77: Guys who stole the passports are muslim terrorists who took down the plane, committing suicide in the process.


China has far more likely reasons to be the target of terrorists than Islamic terrorism - such as a whole host of territorial disputes - but I realise that doesn't fit your MOOSLIMMMS! worldview quite as neatly.
 
2014-03-08 12:20:56 PM  
We should just ban stealing passports.  That will solve the problem.
 
2014-03-08 12:21:05 PM  
No one needs a passport on New Earth!
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-08 12:21:07 PM  
I wanna say D.B. Cooper.
/nuthin'
 
2014-03-08 12:21:11 PM  
slykens1:
What is more interesting to me is that it is even possible to do this in a modern country - which I would suggest Malaysia and China are.

Being modern (and I agree that they certainly are) doesn't necessarily mean giving a shiat.  Just because we have the technology to easily check this stuff doesn't mean it's always used.  Lots of people travel, I'm sure a lot of stuff gets overlooked.
 
2014-03-08 12:21:30 PM  

cptjeff: phalamir: Not to mention, it would be the most pathetic terror plot ever. "Let's send a plane down in the Yellow Sea where nobody sees it, and the most likely explanation will be that there was a mechanical or human failure leading to an accidental crash. That will strike fear into the world!"

If it was a terror plot, they killed more than 200 people. That's not so pathetic.


In a world where planes can crash for all sorts of reasons, bombing a plane over the ocean (making it difficult to determine exactly what happened) to make a political point, without an accompanying claim of responsibility (which we'd have by now if it was organized terror), is a pretty weak plan.

Now, insurance fraud, personal vendetta against someone, that could make more sense.
 
2014-03-08 12:23:53 PM  

AngryDragon: Just because this was uncovered by a reporter making a phone call and not all of the security theater that airport security engages in means nothing.  All that manpower and technology is worthwhile.  In fact we should be increasing their funding to prevent these types of things in the future.


I know you're being snarky and agree with the cut of your snark. I've always believed that it should not matter what the identity of the person you are screening is - it is how you screen them - which is why TSA's fascination with identity always drives me nuts.

Hypocritically, I have availed myself of Global Entry because I did not pay for it and it is really freaking convenient. But that does not mean that I should necessarily be subject to lackadaisical screening.
 
2014-03-08 12:24:14 PM  

lifeboat: Two stolen passports on the same plane.  Plane disappears at its theoretical safest point of the flight.  No apparent distress calls (I believe, could be wrong).  Interesting.


From a Chinese news source, as translated by Google:

In addition, the U.S. Embassy said the 2:43 U.S. military bases stationed in Thailand U-Tapao SOS signal was listening to some of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 emergency call, said the aircraft cabin facing disintegration driver call, they want a forced landing . U.S. troops are currently stationed in Thailand, Malaysia has been providing this signal.

I have not seen this confirmed anywhere though.
 
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