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(Patheos)   Baptist pastor performs in blackface at National Young Fundamentalist Conference   (patheos.com) divider line 66
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2014-03-08 06:43:42 AM  
5 votes:

Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.


I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.
2014-03-08 03:54:51 AM  
5 votes:
Christ.  What an asshole.
2014-03-08 06:16:14 AM  
4 votes:

That Guy...From That Show!: stoli n coke: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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Wow. You might be the first person over the age of 12 who didn't get the point of that movie.

I would imagine that it's difficult to reply with such a large hook in your mouth but it seems you may be used to having one in there.



Of course.
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2014-03-08 05:40:56 AM  
4 votes:
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While the guy is an idiot of the highest caliber, when I think of black-face, I think of stuff like Al Jolson, faint painted coal black with hugely exaggerated lips doing a 'Yessir mastah, you da boss mastah' routine.  In my mind, what this nutsack did was stupid and unfunny, but at the same level.  Looks like he was trying to do a Mr. T impersonation more than anything.  Not that kids today know who Mr. T is (and I pity those fools).  Without more information in the article, it's hard to say what the guys intentions were.  It may have been racist in motivation, or he may have tried (and failed) to be a comedian or some such shiat.

No matter how slice it, though, he's a farking moran of the highest level.  You can't do that shiat, regardless if intent.  It's just the way is.  Some things will never change.
2014-03-08 12:49:56 AM  
4 votes:
Stay classy, Roman lion chow
2014-03-08 04:38:42 AM  
3 votes:

That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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No it isn't. It's an old, false, and boring meme. It's about as far from "interesting" as any other made up RW paranoia.
2014-03-08 03:56:47 AM  
3 votes:
*sigh*

And we're the bigots.

-_-
2014-03-08 02:43:41 AM  
3 votes:
Soon they'll discover that The Power of Michael Buffer's Lawyer Compels You
2014-03-08 10:50:46 AM  
2 votes:

CanisNoir: I'm going to take issue with your last statement. Do you believe gay marriage should be legal? Regardless of how you answer you will be for enacting legislation based upon your personal belief system. Why is it okay for you and not them? Everyone supports legislation based upon their definition of what is morally correct, you'll just have to deal with the fact that a majority of your countrymen will have thiers colored by religion.


The concept of equality in the eyes of the law is not just a personal belief system, it is an ethos that provides the foundation of the U.S. Constitution. It's not about "beliefs" because that ethos exists whether one believes in it or not. It's the same thing as believing in a literal version of Genesis or in science. Science exists whether you believe in it or not. Even if no one believes in it, it's still there.

But let's say we do decide, for the sake of argument, to view this issue strictly in terms of "belief." If the anti-gay side gets to legislate its beliefs, people are hurt. Gays will be discriminated against and denied the 1138 rights and benefits provided to heterosexual marriages. However, if the pro-gay side gets its way, the anti-gay people aren't hurt. No one takes away their ability to marry, ability to worship, ability to express their opinions. They are simply denied the ability to hurt people with whom they disagree, and the gays get to marry and enjoy those 1138 rights.

Therefore, one belief results in injustice, the other results in justice. The belief that results in justice is superior.
2014-03-08 10:32:58 AM  
2 votes:

CanisNoir: I'm going to take issue with your last statement. Do you believe gay marriage should be legal? Regardless of how you answer you will be for enacting legislation based upon your personal belief system. Why is it okay for you and not them? Everyone supports legislation based upon their definition of what is morally correct, you'll just have to deal with the fact that a majority of your countrymen will have thiers colored by religion.


Wrong, care to try again?  The purpose of the law is NOT to legislate morality.  The purpose of the law is to ensure that in the eyes of the law everyone is treated fairly.  Want to run a flower business and refuse to make bouquets for the gay couple because you believe their pairing is an abomination?  Fine.  That's your opinion and you have a right to it.  What you don't have a right to is to be shielded from boycotts and criticism from more intelligent people that think you are an ignorant, bigoted, backward moron.
2014-03-08 10:06:21 AM  
2 votes:

TerminalEchoes: The Homer Tax: TerminalEchoes: SquiggsIN: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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Kirk Lazarus doesn't drop character until he's done the DVD commentary.  (Robert Downey actually stays in character for the commentary track as Osiris until nearly the end when he goes Kirk Lazarus for a few minutes and then finally finishes it as himself)

and isn't your offense cute?

That was the most piss poor excuse/defense of the double standard I've ever seen in my life.

Looks like the guy was trying to be Clubber Lang, who was played by Mr. T., who happens to be black. Big farking deal. The Butthurt Brigade needs to pick their battles more wisely because I stopped taking them seriously twenty years ago.

Nobody's butthurt about this except for the whiny racists who are upset that it's unacceptable to mince around in blackface in the year 2014. The rest of us are mocking them and you. This dumb racist pastor doesn't offend me, I'm laughing at him. The difference isn't even subtle, it's obvious.

You seriously need to learn what blackface is and isn't. But thank you for again proving that anyone who doesn't agree with the liberal worldview is automatically a racist.


It has nothing to do with a "liberal world view" FFS have you posted a single thing in this thread that isn't a horrific strawman?

Painting yourself and then acting like a black guy, when not satirizing the act of blackface itself, is Farking racist. I'm sorry if that offends you. I really am. I'm sorry that being accurately identified as a racist offends you. It's not my problem it's yours. You need to come to damn grips with who you are.

I'm so tired of handling conservative crybabies like yourself with kid gloves. Always playing the goddamned victim card. You're not a victim because you can't put on blackface without being called a racist. You're just a damn racist, either own it, or stop being racist, but either way stop Farking WHINING about it all the time.

I thought liberals were damn crybabies until this country elected a black president, that's when you pathetic conservatives took the whole victimology thing to 11.
2014-03-08 09:35:19 AM  
2 votes:
That little Kentucky church runs an $8000/year college on the side. Read the faculty qualifications; that is really depressing. Maybe black-face acting is about all these kids can look to as a way of a profession out of their poverty.
2014-03-08 09:16:01 AM  
2 votes:

Somacandra: wildcardjack: DrPainMD: Does not approve.

Black guy in whiteface is funnier than the other way around, although it's just... No, it's not as full of racist stereotypes. White people made a bunch of stereotypes about black people but there aren't many degrogatory stereotypes the other way.

Also, there is another inconvenient fact. Whiteface isn't making fun of Whites--its making fun of Blackface. And that is also why anyone who's seen Tropic Thunder knows Downey was also making fun of Blackface--that why the film depicts him trying to bond with the actual African-American actor with that cheesy Jeffersons line.


The fact that this has to be explained to anyone should shock me, but nothing really shocks me at this point.

When blackface is the target of the joke, it's acceptable and could be funny. When black people are the target of the joke, it's probably racist and would take great skill to be funny. Generally a white preacher in blackface does not possess such comedic skill.

If this concept is confusing to you, you're probably racist.
2014-03-08 09:06:09 AM  
2 votes:

wildcardjack: DrPainMD: Does not approve.

Black guy in whiteface is funnier than the other way around, although it's just... No, it's not as full of racist stereotypes. White people made a bunch of stereotypes about black people but there aren't many degrogatory stereotypes the other way.


Also, there is another inconvenient fact. Whiteface isn't making fun of Whites--its making fun of Blackface. And that is also why anyone who's seen Tropic Thunder knows Downey was also making fun of Blackface--that why the film depicts him trying to bond with the actual African-American actor with that cheesy Jeffersons line.
2014-03-08 08:41:31 AM  
2 votes:

Close2TheEdge: So does this qualify as anti-Semitic?



I don't know. Wouldn't surprise me if it rubbed someone the wrong way.

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Look, acting is about pretending to be something you aren't, and personally I don't have a problem with an actor playing a character of another race, religion, gender, sexuality, whatthefarkever. (And wearing whatever makeup, prosthetics, etc is useful in conveying that.) But you and your makeup people are running a heightened risk of playing to stereotypes and caricatures rather than individual character, and I won't really blame people for calling you on it.
2014-03-08 08:15:46 AM  
2 votes:

jmr61: Every time I see the term baptist I equate it with stupid. It seems I'm correct.


You have to realize that just like the Union, the Baptists split over slavery too. The Southern Baptists were basically the racist assholes of the time (and still pretty much are). Their grand tradition lives on.

Case in point:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44658-2004Jun15.html

The Southern Baptist Convention pulled out of the Baptist World Alliance, despite being a founding member, because they BWA wasn't sexist/racist enough for them. Evidently when your religious organisation starts following the actual teachings of Jesus Christ, it just becomes too gosh darn Liberal for decent Americans to tolerate - at least if by "decent Americans" you really mean, "retrograde, sexist, racist, bigots."
2014-03-08 07:52:43 AM  
2 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Not one little bit surprised.  Just Christians doing what Christians do to get the kids involved.  Appeal to the young people.  You know, like worship bands and all.

Yeah, the hardcore stuck-in-the-bubble bands are pretty much the only thing that's ever made me wish that there were  more serious Christians around.  Because if there were even a couple moderately skilled musicians around that occasionally did a song about how Jesus was a pretty hoopy frood that always knows where his towel is, the bubble bands wouldn't be able to get away with the terrifyingly bad shiat they can put out because of lack of competition in their target demographic.

Basically any respect I would normally have for someone going for their dreams and just happening to be bad is canceled and more by the fact that they don't even  try to develop any skills musically.  They intentionally keep churning out shiat because no one's forcing them to be better, and that's just not cool.  And as a bonus, it reflects poorly on their dedication to their  god as well, so I pretty much assume they're terrible  christians to boot.



Not to mention there are only so many ways you can write "Jesus is awesome." The songwriting for a very large amounts of Christian Rock bands are predictable and boring.

Ironically, that's the same problem so-called Satanic bands run into.
2014-03-08 07:34:33 AM  
2 votes:

Miss Alexandra: Big deal.

Meanwhile you have this cRap "music" that has lyrics like this:

"I kill a devil right now ... I say kill whitey all nightey long ... I stabbed a farking Jew with a steeple ... I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fark of it ... Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker ... catch that devil slipping; blow his farking brains out"
"fark a Record Deal"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.

So compared to that, blackface is like, meh.


Yeah, 2 douchebags with one record almost 20 years ago totally makes everything even for Jim Crow, the KKK, Lynching, Minstrel Shows, and of course, Slavery.

Big deal! Totally!
2014-03-08 06:31:11 AM  
2 votes:

That Guy...From That Show!: stoli n coke: That Guy...From That Show!: stoli n coke: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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Wow. You might be the first person over the age of 12 who didn't get the point of that movie.

I would imagine that it's difficult to reply with such a large hook in your mouth but it seems you may be used to having one in there.


Of course.
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Or.....
Fark posts article link looking to provoke
Article was created looking to provoke
Tropic Thunder was created looking to provoke
I post in fark article topic about article looking to provoke and Tropic Thunder looking to provoke which provokes and causes a cascade of replies.

Try to save face all you will and your face probably leaks when you try to drink fluids.


Tropic Thunder was created from the imagination of a screenwriter.
This article was not created. It merely reported what this idiot did.
Or are you one of those folks that thinks Newt Gingrich was taken out of context when networks ran unedited recordings of his actual statements?

Do you see the difference, or do you need a felt board and some puppets?
2014-03-08 05:22:25 AM  
2 votes:

That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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I didn't realize how racist an American actor playing an Australian character playing an African American character in a movie inside a movie who's co-characters remind him that he's not really African American was. Truly you have a dizzying intellect.
2014-03-08 05:22:19 AM  
2 votes:

That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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No, son, you're a racist. Just go ahead and admit it. Everyone knows already, come on out of the closet.
2014-03-08 04:46:58 AM  
2 votes:

A Terrible Human: AirForceVet: Well, it was in Kentucky.

I can't believe no one went "dude don't farking do that". I've lived in Kentucky my entire life and the racists that you find every now and then are just weird.


I'm guessing the National Young Fundamentalists Conference is chocked full of weird.
2014-03-08 04:20:41 AM  
2 votes:

DrPainMD: Does not approve.


Black guy in whiteface is funnier than the other way around, although it's just... No, it's not as full of racist stereotypes. White people made a bunch of stereotypes about black people but there aren't many degrogatory stereotypes the other way.
2014-03-08 03:11:21 AM  
2 votes:
So? Have you seen a pic of teh baby Jebus? He was performing in whiteface every day.
2014-03-08 12:12:25 AM  
2 votes:
Well, it was in Kentucky.
2014-03-08 01:35:43 PM  
1 votes:

OnlyM3: Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark]
2014-03-08 12:21:01 AM


Not one little bit surprised. Just Christians doing what Christians do to get the kids involved.
Speaking of bigots. Surprised it took you this long.



// not excusing the retard in the story, but bigots blaming "all _____ folks" are just as asinine.


Great example. Ted Danson was rightfully pilloried for that. Despite being a "friend of Hollywood" or whatever garbage reasoning idiots were using earlier in the thread.
2014-03-08 01:07:36 PM  
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: CanisNoir: SquiggsIN: The Homer Tax: I'm going to hate myself in the morning but I HAVE to know what "serious point" you think this pastor was trying to make that required painting his skin brown and acting like Mr T

Does he "pity the fool" that doesn't follow his religion?  I hate to out myself but I never actually watched the video.  :)

From the boxing metaphore I took the meaning to be about perserverance and "fighting the good fight" Rocky was the underdog fighting through adversity to eventually win. He might have been better served using Drago instead but of Rockys opponents, Mr. T is the most easily recognizable so I understand why he chose him.

I'd argue that there are a million better examples to showcase to a youth group.  None of those kids have seen the Rocky movies.  Dolph Lundgren is actually a great role model.  Very smart man.


Or, crazy idea but bear with me...

He could have been, I dunno, Rocky? You know, the one who actually had to overcome the adversity, who conveniently requires no skin painting to portray?
2014-03-08 12:32:35 PM  
1 votes:

jmr61: Every time I see the term baptist I equate it with stupid. It seems I'm correct.


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Frowns at your shenanigans.
2014-03-08 11:02:24 AM  
1 votes:

CanisNoir: soporific: CanisNoir: I'm going to take issue with your last statement. Do you believe gay marriage should be legal? Regardless of how you answer you will be for enacting legislation based upon your personal belief system. Why is it okay for you and not them? Everyone supports legislation based upon their definition of what is morally correct, you'll just have to deal with the fact that a majority of your countrymen will have thiers colored by religion.

The concept of equality in the eyes of the law is not just a personal belief system, it is an ethos that provides the foundation of the U.S. Constitution. It's not about "beliefs" because that ethos exists whether one believes in it or not. It's the same thing as believing in a literal version of Genesis or in science. Science exists whether you believe in it or not. Even if no one believes in it, it's still there.

But let's say we do decide, for the sake of argument, to view this issue strictly in terms of "belief." If the anti-gay side gets to legislate its beliefs, people are hurt. Gays will be discriminated against and denied the 1138 rights and benefits provided to heterosexual marriages. However, if the pro-gay side gets its way, the anti-gay people aren't hurt. No one takes away their ability to marry, ability to worship, ability to express their opinions. They are simply denied the ability to hurt people with whom they disagree, and the gays get to marry and enjoy those 1138 rights.

Therefore, one belief results in injustice, the other results in justice. The belief that results in justice is superior.

I'm not debating the pros and cons of gay marriage. My point is that people are just as justified in pushing legislation based upon religious beliefs as they are for any other belief system. I take issue with the statement "they should not legislate their morality" because everyone legislates their morality.


We have a document that defines what our laws can and can't do. Attempting to legislate ones religious beliefs into law violates that document. You are creating a false equivalence, but you've been told that on this site several times over the years when you've attempted to make this argument that you think is very very clever before.
2014-03-08 11:02:08 AM  
1 votes:

CanisNoir: My point is that people are just as justified in pushing legislation based upon religious beliefs as they are for any other belief system


So Sharia law is okay?

I mean, do you even KNOW what the first Amendment is about?

Hint: It's about not allowing religious law to be established as the governing order of the country.
2014-03-08 10:51:41 AM  
1 votes:

CanisNoir: Yet "Live and let live" is a moral philosophy and the one you base your legislative decisions on, just as the opponents base thiers on a differing philosophy.


Except that no, he didn't say that was his philosophy.

/seriously, painting your face black and acting like Mr. T is racist. Mr. T is a walking stereotype.
2014-03-08 10:44:58 AM  
1 votes:

CanisNoir: The Homer Tax: Witness99: The Homer Tax: TerminalEchoes: mutterfark: TerminalEchoes: SquiggsIN: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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Kirk Lazarus doesn't drop character until he's done the DVD commentary.  (Robert Downey actually stays in character for the commentary track as Osiris until nearly the end when he goes Kirk Lazarus for a few minutes and then finally finishes it as himself)

and isn't your offense cute?

That was the most piss poor excuse/defense of the double standard I've ever seen in my life.

Looks like the guy was trying to be Clubber Lang, who was played by Mr. T., who happens to be black. Big farking deal. The Butthurt Brigade needs to pick their battles more wisely because I stopped taking them seriously twenty years ago.

Where is the double standard? Is this an attempt at "satire" by the pastor? If so, I might be able to see a comparison. Perhaps the pastor is merely ignorant of the cultural history of the United States over the last 100 years?

The double standard: if it's a "friend of Hollywood" portraying a black person, it's fine. But if it's one of those horrible right wing Nazi/Anti-Semite/Racist/Fascist/Homophobic/Sexist (did I miss any other buzz words?) who does it, then it's a problem. If he would have gone out there in true blackface saying "mammy!" and tap dancing, you might have a case. But you don't.

Seriously, how old are you. 10? 12? You don't even know what a double standard is and you're trying to lecture the class on 100 years of race relations throughout history.

Cry more. How many more victim cards can you play? Tell daddy all of the mean names those nasty wiberals said to you...

The Homer Tax - I'm curious your opinion on masks that are accurately color matched.

It's stupid to do, but doesn't have the direct relation to a specific act of racism like painting your skin. This is common sense people, if at any point in time you find yourself painting your skin like a black person, without making a commentary on the act of doing so itself, and think "this is a GREAT idea!" Then there is simply no hope for you.

Sorry white people, we can't paint ourselves black, we just can't. Well have to keep busy doing all the other multitudes of things that make being white so awesome. Almost everything in our lives is tilted to our advantage. Race related costumery isn't, we're going to have to get over that.

It's only offensive when the makeup purposefully exagerates stereotypes (which this did not). By insisting upon a double standard, you are doing just as much harm to racial harmony as old school segregationists. Harmony through equality, not inequality. Focusing on innocuous actions such as this breeds resentment.


Painting yourself black and acting like Mr T is blackface, I'm sorry that you don't understand.

It's not a "double standard" you don't know what that phrase means. You're using it improperly to excuse a racist act. You're simply wrong on this and you're not as clever as you think you are when you try to flip it around and say "you're the real racist for saying it's racist!"

You're not smart, you're not clever, you're just wrong. It's OK to be wrong sometimes, like you are. Right now.
2014-03-08 10:20:22 AM  
1 votes:

moodyfark: It looks to me like he was trying to impersonate Mr. T (poorly, but that's beside the point)


That's what happens whenever Christians try to adapt anything popular to Christianity

Christian rock - terrible
Christian cartoons - terrible
Christian summer camps - terrible
Christian pantomime? - terrible
2014-03-08 09:35:59 AM  
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: SquiggsIN: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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Kirk Lazarus doesn't drop character until he's done the DVD commentary.  (Robert Downey actually stays in character for the commentary track as Osiris until nearly the end when he goes Kirk Lazarus for a few minutes and then finally finishes it as himself)

and isn't your offense cute?

That was the most piss poor excuse/defense of the double standard I've ever seen in my life.

Looks like the guy was trying to be Clubber Lang, who was played by Mr. T., who happens to be black. Big farking deal. The Butthurt Brigade needs to pick their battles more wisely because I stopped taking them seriously twenty years ago.


Nobody's butthurt about this except for the whiny racists who are upset that it's unacceptable to mince around in blackface in the year 2014. The rest of us are mocking them and you. This dumb racist pastor doesn't offend me, I'm laughing at him. The difference isn't even subtle, it's obvious.
2014-03-08 09:30:33 AM  
1 votes:
Does anyone have another link to this story?
Rat [TotalFark]
2014-03-08 09:17:09 AM  
1 votes:
Are gays and drag queens in blackface ok?

© or should I be outraged like if a straight guy like Andre Agassi did it?

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2014-03-08 08:59:07 AM  
1 votes:

That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.


Poe's law in action.
2014-03-08 08:21:49 AM  
1 votes:

Make More Hinjews: Monkeyfark Ridiculous:5. the ignorant think "blackface" means a non-black person wearing makeup to look like a black person.

"Blackface is a form of theatrical makeup used by white performers to represent a black person. " - The Ignorant, apparently.


True as far as it goes, but it'd be wrong even by the terms of that article itself to take that sentence as a complete definition (blackface performances have also been done by black performers, for instance), and IMO it's highly misleading to use an overbroad definition of the term to conflate "wearing makeup to look more like Mr. T" with "blackface minstrelsy playing to broad racial stereotypes."

/but point taken; I retract the "ignorant"
2014-03-08 08:07:15 AM  
1 votes:
Every time I see the term baptist I equate it with stupid. It seems I'm correct.
2014-03-08 08:06:01 AM  
1 votes:

stoli n coke:Not to mention there are only so many ways you can write "Jesus is awesome." The songwriting for a very large amounts of Christian Rock bands are predictable and boring.

Ironically, that's the same problem so-called Satanic bands run into.


Counter-point: actually reasonably-skilled popular rock music can be entirely summarized by "I'm fond of my current sexual partner" and "I dislike my previous, now estranged sexual partner", and they still haven't run out of entertaining ways to say it.

Close2TheEdge: That musician exists.  His name is Phil Keaggy


The fact that you have to rewind to the '80s to find a counter-example is, in the larger sense, more agreeing with me than disagreeing, I think.

Solidification of "Christian music" as a separate genre was still ongoing in the 80s, iirc, the battle station wasn't fully armed and operational as an isolated echo chamber until the early '90s.  Rock was considered a bad influence pretty much from its inception, but it wasn't media-duct-taped to the Devil until the satanic cult panics of the '80s.  Before that, it was a bad influence because of the association with  black people, which was a question the religious people were much more divided on than, y'know, Satan.  You had a lot more crossover with otherwise secular artists occasionally doing things like write an outright hymn before then... that's actually kinda what I was hoping would come back.  Elvis occasionally randomly breaking out into a spiritual, that kind of shiat... gives the dedicated-religious dudes something to let them know they should be ashamed of themselves until they put in another 10k hours of practice.
2014-03-08 07:42:21 AM  
1 votes:
hardinparamedic: Miss Alexandra: Big deal.

Meanwhile you have this cRap "music" that has lyrics like this:

"I kill a devil right now ... I say kill whitey all nightey long ... I stabbed a farking Jew with a steeple ... I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fark of it ... Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker ... catch that devil slipping; blow his farking brains out"
"fark a Record Deal"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.

So compared to that, blackface is like, meh.

The fact that you think the earth is the center of the universe is far more offensive if (to?) me as a representative of the white race (oh, FFS don't start that shiat again) than a bunch of rap lyrics are.

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2014-03-08 07:35:58 AM  
1 votes:

Miss Alexandra: Big deal.

Meanwhile you have this cRap "music" that has lyrics like this:

"I kill a devil right now ... I say kill whitey all nightey long ... I stabbed a farking Jew with a steeple ... I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fark of it ... Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker ... catch that devil slipping; blow his farking brains out"
"fark a Record Deal"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.

So compared to that, blackface is like, meh.


The fact you think the earth is the center of the universe is far more offensive if me as a representative of the white race than a bunch of rap lyrics are.
2014-03-08 07:27:23 AM  
1 votes:

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2014-03-08 07:15:30 AM  
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indylaw: "Fundamentalist" is like "communist"... The word has accumulated so much negative association that most fundamentalists call themselves "conservative evangelicals" just like most communists call themselves "socialists" or "social democrats."


You do realize those three terms do not mean the same thing, right?
2014-03-08 07:14:39 AM  
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Gulper Eel: This pastor who runs a "National" young fundamentalists' conference has a whopping 109 followers on Twitter - way to go with that youth outreach there, rev.

And seeing as his congregation appears from the pictures on the church's website to be multiracial and his church  runs a ministry for the Spanish-speaking community, I'm going with him being clueless about teh internets and not bigoted, although the final call on that doesn't rest with us but with his flock.

They need to stay the fark out of politics, though. Living your ministry and legislating your ministry are at cross-purposes (so to speak) with each other.


"Fundamentalist" is like "communist"... The word has accumulated so much negative association that most fundamentalists call themselves "conservative evangelicals" just like most communists call themselves "socialists" or "social democrats."

A more accurate National Fundamentalist Conference would be the Southern Baptist Convention.
2014-03-08 06:57:12 AM  
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wildcardjack: DrPainMD: Does not approve.

Black guy in whiteface is funnier than the other way around, although it's just... No, it's not as full of racist stereotypes. White people made a bunch of stereotypes about black people but there aren't many degrogatory stereotypes the other way.


I don't know. I wouldn't let my daughter watch "White Chicks" back in the day mainly because, at the time, I think she was too young to really understand what was being thrown at her, even though all her friends saw it. It wasn't a popular decision at the time. But she's in college now and, of course, has seen the movie since then. Knowing me, she understands what she didn't as a middle schooler; that I tend to think stereotypes are hurtful no matter what and yes, even "reverse stereotyping" is wrong.

My comments about despising black stereotypes get a lot more attention on Fark than any comment I make about not liking white ones though, I can tell you that.

There are people who sit around and wait to pounce on a comment I make about racism towards blacks but if I make the same comments about whites and how it's just as unfair? Crickets.
2014-03-08 06:56:17 AM  
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hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.


Put it this way - It's all about the context.

I wouldn't get quite so upset at say, some ignorant jerk from Russia putting on black face and doing a comedy bit. They don't have quite the same history with this as we do here in the States.

However, this guy, this southern guy, he knew better. He just didn't care, or he thinks other people shouldn't care anymore. He's wrong of course, but people out there like him will keep doing shiat like this because deep down inside they don't give a fark about how other people feel. I suppose being a pastor these days precludes any requirement to have empathy for people, particularly oppressed people. Such is the state of Christianity in America.
2014-03-08 06:51:01 AM  
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Slappajo: To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.


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Tell him that.

But yeah. We're the real racists, blah blah blah.
2014-03-08 06:50:48 AM  
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That Guy...From That Show!: jso2897: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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No it isn't. It's an old, false, and boring meme. It's about as far from "interesting" as any other made up RW paranoia.

If that were really true then you wouldn't have felt compelled to react to that or this as well.


I'm sorry - I thought we were talking to one another on a publuc forum here. You said something I disagree with - namely, that the whining of "victimized", paranoid "Christians" is interesting. I don't think it is, and said so.
Excuse the shiat outta me, Your Highness.
2014-03-08 06:32:12 AM  
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cynicalminion: Make More Hinjews: cynicalminion: dibs on your dropped treasure, and your mom's in the wagon for later.

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Thanks, but I've got five party members with prior dibs.

and i've got a gelatinous cube.

*yoink*

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2014-03-08 06:09:04 AM  
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This pastor who runs a "National" young fundamentalists' conference has a whopping 109 followers on Twitter - way to go with that youth outreach there, rev.

And seeing as his congregation appears from the pictures on the church's website to be multiracial and his church  runs a ministry for the Spanish-speaking community, I'm going with him being clueless about teh internets and not bigoted, although the final call on that doesn't rest with us but with his flock.

They need to stay the fark out of politics, though. Living your ministry and legislating your ministry are at cross-purposes (so to speak) with each other.
2014-03-08 06:06:25 AM  
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Monkeyfark Ridiculous:5. the ignorant think "blackface" means a non-black person wearing makeup to look like a black person.

"Blackface is a form of theatrical makeup used by white performers to represent a black person. " - The Ignorant, apparently.
2014-03-08 05:58:18 AM  
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wellreadneck: I'm guessing the National Young Fundamentalists Conference is chocked full of weird.


When I was a teenager, our church used to send us to Aquire the Fire and Youth for the Nations.

There was so much repressed homosexuality and sexual desire there you could swim through the hormones.
2014-03-08 05:53:44 AM  
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That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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Wow. You might be the first person over the age of 12 who didn't get the point of that movie.
2014-03-08 05:28:21 AM  
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I see the GOP convention started a little bit early.
2014-03-08 05:24:42 AM  
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I'm not a communist, what the f*ck??
2014-03-08 05:22:55 AM  
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It looks to me like he was trying to impersonate Mr. T (poorly, but that's beside the point)...which begs the question:

Are we not allowed to make ourselves up to look like a particular celebrity just because he happens to be black?
2014-03-08 05:07:01 AM  
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Religion is a very strange hallucinogenic....
2014-03-08 05:01:42 AM  
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Make More Hinjews: That Guy...From That Show!: jso2897: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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No it isn't. It's an old, false, and boring meme. It's about as far from "interesting" as any other made up RW paranoia.

If that were really true then you wouldn't have felt compelled to react to that or this as well.

Pointing out my stupidity PROVES I'M RIGHT!!! AAAAAAAABOOGABOOGABOOGA!!!! *drool* *slump*

/ *thud*


dibs on your dropped treasure, and your mom's in the wagon for later.
2014-03-08 04:57:08 AM  
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As with every farking "blackface" link, this isn't blackface.

Closer than the last time, though, so good try I guess.
2014-03-08 04:55:11 AM  
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That Guy...From That Show!: jso2897: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

[oi62.tinypic.com image 720x480]

No it isn't. It's an old, false, and boring meme. It's about as far from "interesting" as any other made up RW paranoia.

If that were really true then you wouldn't have felt compelled to react to that or this as well.


Pointing out my stupidity PROVES I'M RIGHT!!! AAAAAAAABOOGABOOGABOOGA!!!! *drool* *slump*

/ *thud*
2014-03-08 04:40:31 AM  
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AirForceVet: Well, it was in Kentucky.


I can't believe no one went "dude don't farking do that". I've lived in Kentucky my entire life and the racists that you find every now and then are just weird.
2014-03-08 04:10:56 AM  
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It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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2014-03-08 01:31:57 AM  
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Isn't boxing dangerously close to dancing for Baptists?
2014-03-08 12:47:33 AM  
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Holy Crap..I'm less offended about the black face stuff than using Boxing and Violence in their Christian Ministry.
2014-03-08 12:21:01 AM  
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Not one little bit surprised.  Just Christians doing what Christians do to get the kids involved.  Appeal to the young people.  You know, like worship bands and all.
 
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