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2014-03-08 06:21:00 AM  
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2014-03-08 06:22:55 AM  
img.fark.net

Man, this is hard to do, when you're an obsessive 'perfectionist' like myself.
 
2014-03-08 06:24:48 AM  

stoli n coke: That Guy...From That Show!: stoli n coke: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

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Wow. You might be the first person over the age of 12 who didn't get the point of that movie.

I would imagine that it's difficult to reply with such a large hook in your mouth but it seems you may be used to having one in there.


Of course.
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Or.....
Fark posts article link looking to provoke
Article was created looking to provoke
Tropic Thunder was created looking to provoke
I post in fark article topic about article looking to provoke and Tropic Thunder looking to provoke which provokes and causes a cascade of replies.

Try to save face all you will and your face probably leaks when you try to drink fluids.
 
2014-03-08 06:25:34 AM  

Make More Hinjews: cynicalminion: dibs on your dropped treasure, and your mom's in the wagon for later.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x200]

Thanks, but I've got five party members with prior dibs.


and i've got a gelatinous cube.

*yoink*

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-08 06:25:57 AM  

Clint_Torres: [img.fark.net image 436x1500]

Man, this is hard to do, when you're an obsessive 'perfectionist' like myself.


Could replace that boxing glove with a BBC?
That would be perfect.
 
2014-03-08 06:31:11 AM  

That Guy...From That Show!: stoli n coke: That Guy...From That Show!: stoli n coke: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

[oi62.tinypic.com image 720x480]


Wow. You might be the first person over the age of 12 who didn't get the point of that movie.

I would imagine that it's difficult to reply with such a large hook in your mouth but it seems you may be used to having one in there.


Of course.
[i1098.photobucket.com image 555x455]

Or.....
Fark posts article link looking to provoke
Article was created looking to provoke
Tropic Thunder was created looking to provoke
I post in fark article topic about article looking to provoke and Tropic Thunder looking to provoke which provokes and causes a cascade of replies.

Try to save face all you will and your face probably leaks when you try to drink fluids.


Tropic Thunder was created from the imagination of a screenwriter.
This article was not created. It merely reported what this idiot did.
Or are you one of those folks that thinks Newt Gingrich was taken out of context when networks ran unedited recordings of his actual statements?

Do you see the difference, or do you need a felt board and some puppets?
 
2014-03-08 06:32:12 AM  

cynicalminion: Make More Hinjews: cynicalminion: dibs on your dropped treasure, and your mom's in the wagon for later.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x200]

Thanks, but I've got five party members with prior dibs.

and i've got a gelatinous cube.

*yoink*

[i.imgur.com image 400x225]


users.content.ytmnd.com
media.tumblr.com
www.w3.org

mrwgifs.com
 
2014-03-08 06:37:26 AM  
New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.
 
2014-03-08 06:43:42 AM  

Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.


I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.
 
2014-03-08 06:44:51 AM  

hardinparamedic: cynicalminion: Make More Hinjews: cynicalminion: dibs on your dropped treasure, and your mom's in the wagon for later.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x200]

Thanks, but I've got five party members with prior dibs.

and i've got a gelatinous cube.

*yoink*

[i.imgur.com image 400x225]

[users.content.ytmnd.com image 300x225]
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[www.w3.org image 512x384]

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a) batman got stuck in said gelatinous cube
b) he watched
c) it went viral
d) img.fark.net
 
2014-03-08 06:49:13 AM  

somemoron: While the guy is an idiot of the highest caliber, when I think of black-face, I think of stuff like Al Jolson, faint painted coal black with hugely exaggerated lips doing a 'Yessir mastah, you da boss mastah' routine.  In my mind, what this nutsack did was stupid and unfunny, but at the same level.  Looks like he was trying to do a Mr. T impersonation more than anything.  Not that kids today know who Mr. T is (and I pity those fools).  Without more information in the article, it's hard to say what the guys intentions were.  It may have been racist in motivation, or he may have tried (and failed) to be a comedian or some such shiat.

No matter how slice it, though, he's a farking moran of the highest level.  You can't do that shiat, regardless if intent.  It's just the way is.  Some things will never change.


I wouldn't say you can't, but unless it has a real purpose, like tropic thunder (to show nutty the actor was) you are likely to offend (even when it was done for tropic thunder it offended some).
 
2014-03-08 06:49:27 AM  

hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.


He was doing an impression of Mr. T wasn't he?  To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.
 
2014-03-08 06:49:44 AM  

hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.


img.fark.net

sorry, despite actually agreeing with your standpoints on (most) things, back it up a notch, elrond?
 
2014-03-08 06:50:48 AM  

That Guy...From That Show!: jso2897: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

[oi62.tinypic.com image 720x480]

No it isn't. It's an old, false, and boring meme. It's about as far from "interesting" as any other made up RW paranoia.

If that were really true then you wouldn't have felt compelled to react to that or this as well.


I'm sorry - I thought we were talking to one another on a publuc forum here. You said something I disagree with - namely, that the whining of "victimized", paranoid "Christians" is interesting. I don't think it is, and said so.
Excuse the shiat outta me, Your Highness.
 
2014-03-08 06:51:01 AM  

Slappajo: To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.


www.rerockstar.com

Tell him that.

But yeah. We're the real racists, blah blah blah.
 
2014-03-08 06:53:07 AM  

Slappajo: hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.

He was doing an impression of Mr. T wasn't he?  To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.


Who ban what all? Why? Nobody is talking about banning anything - except you.
 
2014-03-08 06:55:14 AM  

hardinparamedic: Slappajo: To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.

[www.rerockstar.com image 427x427]

Tell him that.

But yeah. We're the real racists, blah blah blah.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-08 06:56:11 AM  

hardinparamedic: Slappajo: To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.

[www.rerockstar.com image 427x427]

Tell him that.

But yeah. We're the real racists, blah blah blah.


No, that's not an impression of Mr. T.  It's a white guy with a mohawk.  That's more of an American Indian impersonation.  Damn now they're going to be mad too.
 
2014-03-08 06:56:17 AM  

hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.


Put it this way - It's all about the context.

I wouldn't get quite so upset at say, some ignorant jerk from Russia putting on black face and doing a comedy bit. They don't have quite the same history with this as we do here in the States.

However, this guy, this southern guy, he knew better. He just didn't care, or he thinks other people shouldn't care anymore. He's wrong of course, but people out there like him will keep doing shiat like this because deep down inside they don't give a fark about how other people feel. I suppose being a pastor these days precludes any requirement to have empathy for people, particularly oppressed people. Such is the state of Christianity in America.
 
2014-03-08 06:56:21 AM  

wellreadneck: Clint_Torres: [img.fark.net image 436x1500]

Man, this is hard to do, when you're an obsessive 'perfectionist' like myself.

Could replace that boxing glove with a BBC?
That would be perfect.



Here you go.

i28.photobucket.com
NSFW!!!!!

At least I'll have an interesting breakfast topic.
"How was your night/morning?"
"It was okay. I got asked to Photoshop some BBC."
(blank stare)
 
2014-03-08 06:57:12 AM  

wildcardjack: DrPainMD: Does not approve.

Black guy in whiteface is funnier than the other way around, although it's just... No, it's not as full of racist stereotypes. White people made a bunch of stereotypes about black people but there aren't many degrogatory stereotypes the other way.


I don't know. I wouldn't let my daughter watch "White Chicks" back in the day mainly because, at the time, I think she was too young to really understand what was being thrown at her, even though all her friends saw it. It wasn't a popular decision at the time. But she's in college now and, of course, has seen the movie since then. Knowing me, she understands what she didn't as a middle schooler; that I tend to think stereotypes are hurtful no matter what and yes, even "reverse stereotyping" is wrong.

My comments about despising black stereotypes get a lot more attention on Fark than any comment I make about not liking white ones though, I can tell you that.

There are people who sit around and wait to pounce on a comment I make about racism towards blacks but if I make the same comments about whites and how it's just as unfair? Crickets.
 
2014-03-08 06:57:31 AM  

jso2897: Slappajo: hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.

He was doing an impression of Mr. T wasn't he?  To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.

Who ban what all? Why? Nobody is talking about banning anything - except you.


To relieve all of the butthurt about every time someone gets offended by something.
 
2014-03-08 07:02:21 AM  

That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.


2/10. You might get a nibble.
 
2014-03-08 07:04:54 AM  

jso2897: Slappajo: hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.

He was doing an impression of Mr. T wasn't he?  To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.

Who ban what all? Why? Nobody is talking about banning anything - except you.


skip next "right wingnut attacking left-dingbat" and enjoy making fun of ourselves.
i1104.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-08 07:06:12 AM  

cynicalminion: skip next "right wingnut attacking left-dingbat" and enjoy making fun of ourselves.


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-03-08 07:14:39 AM  

Gulper Eel: This pastor who runs a "National" young fundamentalists' conference has a whopping 109 followers on Twitter - way to go with that youth outreach there, rev.

And seeing as his congregation appears from the pictures on the church's website to be multiracial and his church  runs a ministry for the Spanish-speaking community, I'm going with him being clueless about teh internets and not bigoted, although the final call on that doesn't rest with us but with his flock.

They need to stay the fark out of politics, though. Living your ministry and legislating your ministry are at cross-purposes (so to speak) with each other.


"Fundamentalist" is like "communist"... The word has accumulated so much negative association that most fundamentalists call themselves "conservative evangelicals" just like most communists call themselves "socialists" or "social democrats."

A more accurate National Fundamentalist Conference would be the Southern Baptist Convention.
 
2014-03-08 07:15:13 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: moodyfark: It looks to me like he was trying to impersonate Mr. T (poorly, but that's beside the point)...which begs the question:

Are we not allowed to make ourselves up to look like a particular celebrity just because he happens to be black?

1. raises the question "are we not allowed..."
2. you are allowed, it's just that some people might take offense, partly because
3. it's easy to step into racial stereotypes when portraying a person of another race, but
4. if you just skip the skin-darkening makeup you can probably get by, because
5. the ignorant think "blackface" means a non-black person wearing makeup to look like a black person.


So does this qualify as anti-Semitic?

www.omgiloveyourhair.com
 
2014-03-08 07:15:30 AM  

indylaw: "Fundamentalist" is like "communist"... The word has accumulated so much negative association that most fundamentalists call themselves "conservative evangelicals" just like most communists call themselves "socialists" or "social democrats."


You do realize those three terms do not mean the same thing, right?
 
2014-03-08 07:15:38 AM  

indylaw: That Guy...From That Show!: It's interesting that bigots will go after Christians for doing the same thing that the bigots applaud others for doing.

2/10. You might get a nibble.


lol, you posted that before reading ahead and seeing how many I caught.

/Good catch yourself for not getting caught.
 
2014-03-08 07:16:34 AM  

Slappajo: jso2897: Slappajo: hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.

He was doing an impression of Mr. T wasn't he?  To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.

Who ban what all? Why? Nobody is talking about banning anything - except you.

To relieve all of the butthurt about every time someone gets offended by something.


*shenanigans!*

>>poidh<<
 
2014-03-08 07:18:07 AM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-08 07:20:48 AM  
As much as I despise any group with the words "Young" and "Fundamentalist" in their title, I find it really difficult to muster any outrage about this.  There are so many examples of race reversal being played up for comic purposes that people should be able recognize satire for what it is, satire.  Maybe the guy is a racist asshole.  I don't know that and neither do you.  Just because he was impersonating Mr T for a comedy sketch does not immediately make him one.

The panties twisting hysteria of this stupid blog kinda soured me immediately.
 
2014-03-08 07:22:21 AM  
I like how the white guys were American patriots with the red white and blue trunks.
and how the "champ" was all in black. Even in the black corner.
and how he wouldn't stand to be beaten but had someone take his beating for him.
UnAmerican, Proud and a Coward.
 
2014-03-08 07:24:29 AM  

hardinparamedic: cynicalminion: skip next "right wingnut attacking left-dingbat" and enjoy making fun of ourselves.

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 850x604]


"very funny, i'm a plant..."
"oh really, i thought men like you were usually called a fruit"

don't even TRY to pretend that we are now looking back at things like issa and seeing mccarthy.  or yvette's "convenient drink shelf"

media.giphy.com
 
2014-03-08 07:24:53 AM  

Clint_Torres: wellreadneck: Clint_Torres: [img.fark.net image 436x1500]

Man, this is hard to do, when you're an obsessive 'perfectionist' like myself.

Could replace that boxing glove with a BBC?
That would be perfect.


Here you go.

[i28.photobucket.com image 600x412]
NSFW!!!!!

At least I'll have an interesting breakfast topic.
"How was your night/morning?"
"It was okay. I got asked to Photoshop some BBC."
(blank stare)


Thanks. Me, too.
"Morning, watcha up to?"
"Not much. Asked someone to Photoshop a BBC."
(cocked eyebrow)
 
2014-03-08 07:26:57 AM  

Slappajo: jso2897: Slappajo: hardinparamedic: Slappajo: New rule...no one of one race can impersonate anyone of a different race.  If you're going to do impersonations, you must stay within your own race.  Oh hell, let's throw no men impersonating women or women impersonating men in there either too just to be safe.  Don't want any feminists getting riled either.

I hate to break this to you, but "Blackface" has been off limits for whites since the 1930s.

Sorry. It's not an "impersonation". It's a pretty damn offensive racial stereotype that was used to make fun of perceived black culture during the Jim Crow era.

He was doing an impression of Mr. T wasn't he?  To do that, he used black face paint.  Had he not, it would have been a shiatty impression of Mr. T.  But using black face paint apparently hurts some people's feelings.  We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...therefore BAN IT ALL.

Who ban what all? Why? Nobody is talking about banning anything - except you.

To relieve all of the butthurt about every time someone gets offended by something.


Not an option. You'll have to think of something else.
Maybe you should close your eyes, and think of England.
 
2014-03-08 07:27:23 AM  

cynicalbastard: [img.photobucket.com image 584x600]


media.giphy.com
 
2014-03-08 07:28:54 AM  
Big deal.

Meanwhile you have this cRap "music" that has lyrics like this:

"I kill a devil right now ... I say kill whitey all nightey long ... I stabbed a farking Jew with a steeple ... I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fark of it ... Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker ... catch that devil slipping; blow his farking brains out"
"fark a Record Deal"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.

So compared to that, blackface is like, meh.
 
2014-03-08 07:34:33 AM  

Miss Alexandra: Big deal.

Meanwhile you have this cRap "music" that has lyrics like this:

"I kill a devil right now ... I say kill whitey all nightey long ... I stabbed a farking Jew with a steeple ... I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fark of it ... Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker ... catch that devil slipping; blow his farking brains out"
"fark a Record Deal"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.

So compared to that, blackface is like, meh.


Yeah, 2 douchebags with one record almost 20 years ago totally makes everything even for Jim Crow, the KKK, Lynching, Minstrel Shows, and of course, Slavery.

Big deal! Totally!
 
2014-03-08 07:35:58 AM  

Miss Alexandra: Big deal.

Meanwhile you have this cRap "music" that has lyrics like this:

"I kill a devil right now ... I say kill whitey all nightey long ... I stabbed a farking Jew with a steeple ... I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fark of it ... Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker ... catch that devil slipping; blow his farking brains out"
"fark a Record Deal"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.

So compared to that, blackface is like, meh.


The fact you think the earth is the center of the universe is far more offensive if me as a representative of the white race than a bunch of rap lyrics are.
 
2014-03-08 07:42:21 AM  
hardinparamedic: Miss Alexandra: Big deal.

Meanwhile you have this cRap "music" that has lyrics like this:

"I kill a devil right now ... I say kill whitey all nightey long ... I stabbed a farking Jew with a steeple ... I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fark of it ... Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker ... catch that devil slipping; blow his farking brains out"
"fark a Record Deal"; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.

So compared to that, blackface is like, meh.

The fact that you think the earth is the center of the universe is far more offensive if (to?) me as a representative of the white race (oh, FFS don't start that shiat again) than a bunch of rap lyrics are.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-08 07:44:33 AM  
I don't know how people muster the energy to be so offended by so many things.

I was looking through my old collection of National Lampoon a couple months ago and realized that they simply couldn't publish that today. That magazine had some legendary and historically (maybe too strong a term) important satirists and comic artists publish their works in it. The last thirty years would have been a much drearier place without Doug Kenney, Michael O'Donaghue, John Hughes, P.J. O'Rourke, Gahan Wilson, Harold Ramis, etc.

I'm guessing the majority of humor would offend someone, even though the number of offended parties might be small.

The guy did a bad Mr T impression. Farkin get over it. Unless you're Mr T, you really don't need to be offended unless you need too to get erect or something.
 
2014-03-08 07:45:13 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Not one little bit surprised.  Just Christians doing what Christians do to get the kids involved.  Appeal to the young people.  You know, like worship bands and all.


Yeah, the hardcore stuck-in-the-bubble bands are pretty much the only thing that's ever made me wish that there were  more serious Christians around.  Because if there were even a couple moderately skilled musicians around that occasionally did a song about how Jesus was a pretty hoopy frood that always knows where his towel is, the bubble bands wouldn't be able to get away with the terrifyingly bad shiat they can put out because of lack of competition in their target demographic.

Basically any respect I would normally have for someone going for their dreams and just happening to be bad is canceled and more by the fact that they don't even  try to develop any skills musically.  They intentionally keep churning out shiat because no one's forcing them to be better, and that's just not cool.  And as a bonus, it reflects poorly on their dedication to their  god as well, so I pretty much assume they're terrible  christians to boot.
 
2014-03-08 07:52:43 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Not one little bit surprised.  Just Christians doing what Christians do to get the kids involved.  Appeal to the young people.  You know, like worship bands and all.

Yeah, the hardcore stuck-in-the-bubble bands are pretty much the only thing that's ever made me wish that there were  more serious Christians around.  Because if there were even a couple moderately skilled musicians around that occasionally did a song about how Jesus was a pretty hoopy frood that always knows where his towel is, the bubble bands wouldn't be able to get away with the terrifyingly bad shiat they can put out because of lack of competition in their target demographic.

Basically any respect I would normally have for someone going for their dreams and just happening to be bad is canceled and more by the fact that they don't even  try to develop any skills musically.  They intentionally keep churning out shiat because no one's forcing them to be better, and that's just not cool.  And as a bonus, it reflects poorly on their dedication to their  god as well, so I pretty much assume they're terrible  christians to boot.



Not to mention there are only so many ways you can write "Jesus is awesome." The songwriting for a very large amounts of Christian Rock bands are predictable and boring.

Ironically, that's the same problem so-called Satanic bands run into.
 
2014-03-08 07:54:09 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Not one little bit surprised.  Just Christians doing what Christians do to get the kids involved.  Appeal to the young people.  You know, like worship bands and all.

Yeah, the hardcore stuck-in-the-bubble bands are pretty much the only thing that's ever made me wish that there were  more serious Christians around.  Because if there were even a couple moderately skilled musicians around that occasionally did a song about how Jesus was a pretty hoopy frood that always knows where his towel is, the bubble bands wouldn't be able to get away with the terrifyingly bad shiat they can put out because of lack of competition in their target demographic.

Basically any respect I would normally have for someone going for their dreams and just happening to be bad is canceled and more by the fact that they don't even  try to develop any skills musically.  They intentionally keep churning out shiat because no one's forcing them to be better, and that's just not cool.  And as a bonus, it reflects poorly on their dedication to their  god as well, so I pretty much assume they're terrible  christians to boot.


That musician exists.  His name is Phil Keaggy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aoDEMETXek
 
2014-03-08 08:06:01 AM  

stoli n coke:Not to mention there are only so many ways you can write "Jesus is awesome." The songwriting for a very large amounts of Christian Rock bands are predictable and boring.

Ironically, that's the same problem so-called Satanic bands run into.


Counter-point: actually reasonably-skilled popular rock music can be entirely summarized by "I'm fond of my current sexual partner" and "I dislike my previous, now estranged sexual partner", and they still haven't run out of entertaining ways to say it.

Close2TheEdge: That musician exists.  His name is Phil Keaggy


The fact that you have to rewind to the '80s to find a counter-example is, in the larger sense, more agreeing with me than disagreeing, I think.

Solidification of "Christian music" as a separate genre was still ongoing in the 80s, iirc, the battle station wasn't fully armed and operational as an isolated echo chamber until the early '90s.  Rock was considered a bad influence pretty much from its inception, but it wasn't media-duct-taped to the Devil until the satanic cult panics of the '80s.  Before that, it was a bad influence because of the association with  black people, which was a question the religious people were much more divided on than, y'know, Satan.  You had a lot more crossover with otherwise secular artists occasionally doing things like write an outright hymn before then... that's actually kinda what I was hoping would come back.  Elvis occasionally randomly breaking out into a spiritual, that kind of shiat... gives the dedicated-religious dudes something to let them know they should be ashamed of themselves until they put in another 10k hours of practice.
 
2014-03-08 08:07:15 AM  
Every time I see the term baptist I equate it with stupid. It seems I'm correct.
 
2014-03-08 08:15:46 AM  

jmr61: Every time I see the term baptist I equate it with stupid. It seems I'm correct.


You have to realize that just like the Union, the Baptists split over slavery too. The Southern Baptists were basically the racist assholes of the time (and still pretty much are). Their grand tradition lives on.

Case in point:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44658-2004Jun15.html

The Southern Baptist Convention pulled out of the Baptist World Alliance, despite being a founding member, because they BWA wasn't sexist/racist enough for them. Evidently when your religious organisation starts following the actual teachings of Jesus Christ, it just becomes too gosh darn Liberal for decent Americans to tolerate - at least if by "decent Americans" you really mean, "retrograde, sexist, racist, bigots."
 
2014-03-08 08:21:49 AM  

Make More Hinjews: Monkeyfark Ridiculous:5. the ignorant think "blackface" means a non-black person wearing makeup to look like a black person.

"Blackface is a form of theatrical makeup used by white performers to represent a black person. " - The Ignorant, apparently.


True as far as it goes, but it'd be wrong even by the terms of that article itself to take that sentence as a complete definition (blackface performances have also been done by black performers, for instance), and IMO it's highly misleading to use an overbroad definition of the term to conflate "wearing makeup to look more like Mr. T" with "blackface minstrelsy playing to broad racial stereotypes."

/but point taken; I retract the "ignorant"
 
2014-03-08 08:31:25 AM  

SquiggsIN: jmr61: Every time I see the term baptist I equate it with stupid. It seems I'm correct.

stupidity and ignorance aren't the same thing.  stupid and smart are hereditary (and partially environmental) and there's not a whole lot you can do to become 'smarter'.  However, ignorance is a personal choice. (religion in ALL forms = willful ignorance)


Taking on the beliefs of a group or another person as your own is irresponsible and ignorant. religion isn't the only example of this.
 
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