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(CTV News) NewsFlash Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 from Kuala Lampur to Beijing with 227 people on board is missing   (ctvnews.ca) divider line 563
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2014-03-07 08:35:54 PM  
http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/malaysia-airlines-loses-contact-wit h -flight-march-8-2014/

"We have no idea where this aircraft is right now."

I can tell you where it isn't if that will narrow the search down.
 
2014-03-07 08:36:24 PM  

FlashHarry:


We're not going to Guam, are we?
 
2014-03-07 08:36:50 PM  

zerkalo: I pray it wasn't uigher separatists as that would be a major escalation in tactics


I don't recall that line. Was it from Airplane 2: The Sequel?
 
2014-03-07 08:37:06 PM  
So I'm guessing sudden loss of contact means either bomb, missile, plain old fashioned structural or cargo door failure?
 
2014-03-07 08:37:15 PM  

macross87: What can you make of this?


Well, it could be: a broach, or a hat, Or a pterodactyl!
 
2014-03-07 08:37:33 PM  

TheKnownUniverse: I feel bad that the first thought that crossed my mind was "Can't wait for the Mayday/ACI ep!"


Glad to see I wasn't the only one to think that.

Yes, I'm a Mayday junkie, too.  But, it also calms my fear of flight.

/hoping for the best but bracing for the worst.
 
2014-03-07 08:38:13 PM  
I guess we have no updates if it crashed or landed someplace else yet .
 
2014-03-07 08:39:17 PM  
Any other planes missing? Could it be another mid-air collision?
 
2014-03-07 08:39:39 PM  
Behold the first successful use of the intra-uterine bomb....
 
2014-03-07 08:40:21 PM  
They said the plane "departed" at 12:41 a.m., which means they pulled the jet bridge back and the plane pushed from the gate then.

No idea how long the taxi was to the runway, but I'm guessing pushback, tug detaching, taxi, then wheels-up...that would take 15 minutes at a non-busy time.  If they flew a direct path to PEK, Google-fu estimates they went down somewhere over or near Vietnam.
 
2014-03-07 08:40:35 PM  
I would not trust the plane "disappearing" from flightaware to draw any conclusions.  According to FA, contact was "lost" 19 minutes into the flight.  According to news reports, contact was lost 2 hours into flight.  Also, if you look at this particular flight on previous days, there is no data available after about 20 minutes of flight time out of Kuala Lumpur.  This seems to be some sort of flightaware limitation.
 
2014-03-07 08:41:10 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: WTFDYW: GWSuperfan: Here's the last flightracker data:  http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK / ZBAA/tracklog

Not good. Not good at all. Vanished into thin air.

/or a bad landing

Have we ruled out a hijacking yet? Could a hijacker turn off the transponder or something?


Yes, and that would effectively hide the aircraft from amateur trackers and websites but not from ATC. Their radars are not dependent on a functional transponder onboard. Many US planes don't even have ADSB transponders.
 
2014-03-07 08:42:47 PM  

LessO2: They said the plane "departed" at 12:41 a.m., which means they pulled the jet bridge back and the plane pushed from the gate then.

No idea how long the taxi was to the runway, but I'm guessing pushback, tug detaching, taxi, then wheels-up...that would take 15 minutes at a non-busy time.  If they flew a direct path to PEK, Google-fu estimates they went down somewhere over or near Vietnam.


Maybe the Vietnamese shot it down. Does anyone really want to go to war with them if they did?
 
2014-03-07 08:43:01 PM  

Kensey: Arachnophobe: "All I ask is that you remain calm... and pray."

/should not be obscure

Just watched that the other day.  Somehow it strikes me as one of the creepier episodes...


Because it just ends, there's no resolution or anything. It just... ends, and they're still in the air.
 
2014-03-07 08:43:47 PM  

Oldiron_79: LessO2: They said the plane "departed" at 12:41 a.m., which means they pulled the jet bridge back and the plane pushed from the gate then.

No idea how long the taxi was to the runway, but I'm guessing pushback, tug detaching, taxi, then wheels-up...that would take 15 minutes at a non-busy time.  If they flew a direct path to PEK, Google-fu estimates they went down somewhere over or near Vietnam.

Maybe the Vietnamese shot it down. Does anyone really want to go to war with them if they did?


There are probably some 70 year old men that wouldn't mind avenging some buddies' deaths.
 
2014-03-07 08:43:56 PM  
Well looks like I picked a bad week to quit snorting blow.
 
2014-03-07 08:43:59 PM  
How far is this from Macho Grande?
 
2014-03-07 08:44:53 PM  
recent update airline website

"next of kin being notified"
 
2014-03-07 08:45:41 PM  
cache.vevo.com
 
2014-03-07 08:45:52 PM  

Russ1642: My money is on them getting off course and flying into N Korean airspace where they were promptly blown to bits.


uh, i don't think so - why do you think the North Koreans are always firing missiles into the ocean?  it's the only target they can hit.
 
2014-03-07 08:46:29 PM  
That's it - I am never farking flying again. How much is a cruise to Europe?
 
2014-03-07 08:46:33 PM  
"China's Xinhua news agency: Radar contact with missing Malaysia Airlines plane lost in airspace controlled by Vietnam"
 
2014-03-07 08:46:59 PM  
They knew what they were getting into.
 
2014-03-07 08:46:59 PM  

mcnguyen: I would not trust the plane "disappearing" from flightaware to draw any conclusions.  According to FA, contact was "lost" 19 minutes into the flight.  According to news reports, contact was lost 2 hours into flight.  Also, if you look at this particular flight on previous days, there is no data available after about 20 minutes of flight time out of Kuala Lumpur.  This seems to be some sort of flightaware limitation.


Flightaware and the various other tracking sites get their data in most parts of the world from amateur enthusiasts who build their own ADSB receivers. Their coverage is pretty poor in many places. In other regions they do have access to actual ATC radar data, but often it is delayed by 20-30 minutes.
 
2014-03-07 08:47:08 PM  

almejita: Are there any other possibilities than the plane crashing?  Seems like a hijack would have been radioed in by now.  Have there been other flights that have shown up after being hours late?


only in pieces
 
2014-03-07 08:47:11 PM  
From the Sidney Morning Herald:

The missing plane is believed to have been involved in a crash in August, 2012, when it damaged the tail of a China Eastern Airlines plane at Shanghai Pudong Airport, according to unconfirmed reports.

In the incident, the tip of the wing of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 broke off.


So, it could be a structural failure.
 
2014-03-07 08:47:16 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Oldiron_79: LessO2: They said the plane "departed" at 12:41 a.m., which means they pulled the jet bridge back and the plane pushed from the gate then.

No idea how long the taxi was to the runway, but I'm guessing pushback, tug detaching, taxi, then wheels-up...that would take 15 minutes at a non-busy time.  If they flew a direct path to PEK, Google-fu estimates they went down somewhere over or near Vietnam.

Maybe the Vietnamese shot it down. Does anyone really want to go to war with them if they did?

There are probably some 70 year old men that wouldn't mind avenging some buddies' deaths.


But would any American politician be dumb enough to start a war in Vietnam?
 
2014-03-07 08:47:28 PM  
This its fark... never good news when its serious business.
 
2014-03-07 08:47:52 PM  

Arachnophobe: Kensey: Arachnophobe: "All I ask is that you remain calm... and pray."

/should not be obscure

Just watched that the other day.  Somehow it strikes me as one of the creepier episodes...

Because it just ends, there's no resolution or anything. It just... ends, and they're still in the air.


Sorry, my google-fu has failed me tonight - mind filling me in on the reference fellow farkers? Curious minds and all that...

/also, hope the flight emergency landed somewhere... that has no contact with emergency responders?
//... yeah they're probably an impact crater now, sad :-/
 
2014-03-07 08:47:53 PM  

postnobills: mcnguyen: I would not trust the plane "disappearing" from flightaware to draw any conclusions.  According to FA, contact was "lost" 19 minutes into the flight.  According to news reports, contact was lost 2 hours into flight.  Also, if you look at this particular flight on previous days, there is no data available after about 20 minutes of flight time out of Kuala Lumpur.  This seems to be some sort of flightaware limitation.

Flightaware and the various other tracking sites get their data in most parts of the world from amateur enthusiasts who build their own ADSB receivers. Their coverage is pretty poor in many places. In other regions they do have access to actual ATC radar data, but often it is delayed by 20-30 minutes.


In the US I think it's only 5 min off. No?
 
2014-03-07 08:47:59 PM  
Maybe the plane is just... lost.

/yeah
//oceana airlines
 
2014-03-07 08:48:28 PM  

ummhima2: recent update airline website

"next of kin being notified"


At least they're saying something, even if they don't know where the hell the plane is.

A U.S.-flagged carrier would disavow any knowledge of anything gone wrong until their lawyers draft settlement papers with NDAs for some small amount of money.
 
2014-03-07 08:48:42 PM  

Mr. Ekshun: Paganini died on that flight, right?


Couldn't be. They'd have heard him way the hell out in Pearl.
 
2014-03-07 08:48:42 PM  
Damn. Did I miss a Langoliers reference?

Because if not you all are slow.
 
2014-03-07 08:48:55 PM  
New footage....

tvrecappersanonymous.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-07 08:49:03 PM  

AcademGreen: From the Sidney Morning Herald:

The missing plane is believed to have been involved in a crash in August, 2012, when it damaged the tail of a China Eastern Airlines plane at Shanghai Pudong Airport, according to unconfirmed reports.

In the incident, the tip of the wing of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 broke off.

So, it could be a structural failure.


A speed tape fix never fails.
 
2014-03-07 08:49:11 PM  

ummhima2: recent update airline website

"next of kin being notified"


Damn... that's a very unfortunate update.
 
2014-03-07 08:49:52 PM  
Via Reuters:
Chinese state TV also reported there had not been any reports received yet about any aircraft crashed in Chinese waters.
State news agency Xinhua reported radar contact with the flight was lost while it was in Vietnamese airspace.
 
2014-03-07 08:50:36 PM  

shastacola: almejita: Are there any other possibilities than the plane crashing?  Seems like a hijack would have been radioed in by now.  Have there been other flights that have shown up after being hours late?

Someone on CNN says the plane would have run out of gas by now.


It being CNN, I can only assume the aircraft has enough fuel to stay in the air until April.

In all seriousness though, what are the odds it was a hijacking? Isn't China having issues with Uighar(sp?) seperatists?
 
2014-03-07 08:50:57 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Have we ruled out a hijacking yet? Could a hijacker turn off the transponder or something?


Something I always wondered about what happened on 9/11: what possible reason would there be for a commercial aircraft to turn off its transponder mid-flight? Change the signal, yes - to indicate radio failure or such - but why is it even possible to turn it off from the cockpit?

Even if you wander into a warzone, you're better off with the transponder identifying you as a civilian aircraft rather than only appearing on radar.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:14 PM  
Latest report says it lost radar contact over Vietnam. I wonder if it ventured into MiG alley by mistake.
 
2014-03-07 08:52:13 PM  
I knew I shouldn't have made that left turn at Hanoi.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-07 08:52:35 PM  

Russ1642: postnobills: mcnguyen: I would not trust the plane "disappearing" from flightaware to draw any conclusions.  According to FA, contact was "lost" 19 minutes into the flight.  According to news reports, contact was lost 2 hours into flight.  Also, if you look at this particular flight on previous days, there is no data available after about 20 minutes of flight time out of Kuala Lumpur.  This seems to be some sort of flightaware limitation.

Flightaware and the various other tracking sites get their data in most parts of the world from amateur enthusiasts who build their own ADSB receivers. Their coverage is pretty poor in many places. In other regions they do have access to actual ATC radar data, but often it is delayed by 20-30 minutes.

In the US I think it's only 5 min off. No?


Could be. It may depend on the airport - in some places where they have both ADSB and radar coverage, planes with transponders will be shown in realtime and planes without will be shown delayed. Very confusing.
 
2014-03-07 08:53:23 PM  

ummhima2: recent update airline website

"next of kin being notified"


It spun in, there where no survivors.
 
2014-03-07 08:54:00 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Kumana Wanalaia: Have we ruled out a hijacking yet? Could a hijacker turn off the transponder or something?

Something I always wondered about what happened on 9/11: what possible reason would there be for a commercial aircraft to turn off its transponder mid-flight? Change the signal, yes - to indicate radio failure or such - but why is it even possible to turn it off from the cockpit?

Even if you wander into a warzone, you're better off with the transponder identifying you as a civilian aircraft rather than only appearing on radar.


Well if it has a short and is smoking you need to be able to turn it off.
 
2014-03-07 08:54:16 PM  

RINO: In all seriousness though, what are the odds it was a hijacking? Isn't China having issues with Uighar(sp?) seperatists?


Hard to say right now.  Though with the Boeing 777 having such a good safety record (SFO was a pilot eff-up), I wouldn't rule out a suicidal pilot (look up Egypt Air 990 for one example).
 
2014-03-07 08:54:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Either it's crashed, which is bad; or it's gone through a wormhole in time and will end up in another dimension, which is also bad.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-07 08:55:40 PM  

duckpoopy: That's it - I am never farking flying again. How much is a cruise to Europe?


The 777 is quite safe.  As of January of this year ,1,170 had been built.  There have only been four hull losses.

British Airways 38:  Lost engine power short of Heathrow.  No fatalities.  Engine failure, not airframe problem.

Egyptair plane:  Cockpit fire at the gate.  No injuries.  The plane was written off because of cockpit damage.

Asiana 214:  Landed short due to crew error.  Three passengers died, One of those was run over by fire trucks.

Then this one.  We probably won't know what happened for a while.
 
2014-03-07 08:57:31 PM  

Kentucky Fried Children: Arachnophobe: Kensey: Arachnophobe: "All I ask is that you remain calm... and pray."

/should not be obscure

Just watched that the other day.  Somehow it strikes me as one of the creepier episodes...

Because it just ends, there's no resolution or anything. It just... ends, and they're still in the air.

Sorry, my google-fu has failed me tonight - mind filling me in on the reference fellow farkers? Curious minds and all that...

/also, hope the flight emergency landed somewhere... that has no contact with emergency responders?
//... yeah they're probably an impact crater now, sad :-/


The Odyssey of Flight 33.
 
2014-03-07 08:57:41 PM  

duckpoopy: That's it - I am never farking flying again. How much is a cruise to Europe?


There's a new fancy ship out there that they say is unsinkable. Take that one.
 
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