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2014-03-07 08:44:24 PM  
But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.
 
2014-03-07 08:52:22 PM  

miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.


Ding ding!
 
2014-03-07 09:22:24 PM  
I know the fire code exists for a reason, but there are a lot worse places to be during a fire than in a pool.

/Yes, I know about the chemicals and the closed space and the filters
 
2014-03-07 09:23:01 PM  
Cut the high beams off, hon!
 
2014-03-07 09:27:36 PM  
"..eventually gave her a jacket..."


Sometimes I just hate people.  Eventually?  How dumb are people nowadays? Apparently, dumber than those flunkies who would say "Duuuuhhhyyaaa sowwy, bo-ahss"  yeah, those guys would have had the sense to give her a jacket immediately, unlike the faculty.

The people in the movie "Idiocracy" were smarter than this!
 
2014-03-07 09:28:01 PM  
School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?
 
2014-03-07 09:29:01 PM  
This must be the twist from "Frozen" I keep hearing about.
 
2014-03-07 09:29:51 PM  
If she actually has frostbite then someone is in the shiat.
 
2014-03-07 09:30:22 PM  
For a place where kids are supposed to learn, teachers and principals are some of the most illogical and stupid things ever to walk on two legs.
 
2014-03-07 09:30:25 PM  
Every single regulation brings us farther from Somalia and closer to perfection.

Every. Single. One.

Do not think of them as "laws" think of them as "gifts".
 
2014-03-07 09:30:37 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?


Public education isn't the problem, it's the people willing to work for the low salaries because nobody wants to pay higher taxes to support it.
 
2014-03-07 09:31:02 PM  

miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.


Especially since his car is warm and dry. It would just lead to strong words in the staff room and flying accusations.
 
2014-03-07 09:31:18 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?


I agree, public education has turned into a joke

Abolish and start over

This time with common sense as the core instead of PC liberal BS
 
2014-03-07 09:31:34 PM  
Fire the bastards. They forced a girl to stand outside barefoot in freezing weather and refused to offer her shelter. Fire them, no farking excuses.
 
2014-03-07 09:32:03 PM  
This isn't 'Nam, there are rules.
 
2014-03-07 09:32:14 PM  

miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.


Temptation, frustration
So bad it makes him cry
Wet bus stop, she's waiting
His car is warm and dry
 
2014-03-07 09:32:49 PM  

The hopeless imp: MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?

Public education isn't the problem, it's the people willing to work for the low salaries because nobody wants to pay higher taxes to support it.


Crimea River Ok?

That has to be the dumbest freaken thing I have read on Fark in a long time

Good job, derpy
 
2014-03-07 09:32:53 PM  

Crudbucket: miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.

Especially since his car is warm and dry. It would just lead to strong words in the staff room and flying accusations.


*Shakes tiny fist*
 
2014-03-07 09:33:49 PM  

miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.


Stuff like this proves beyond any doubt that the purpose of our schools isn't for the purpose of education, but to train the future meatbots how to perform menial tasks on command and to never ever question the rules handed down by their superiors, no matter how ridiculous or even harmful they can be.
 
2014-03-07 09:35:45 PM  

TV's Vinnie: miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.

Stuff like this proves beyond any doubt that the purpose of our schools isn't for the purpose of education, but to train the future meatbots how to perform menial tasks on command and to never ever question the rules handed down by their superiors, no matter how ridiculous or even harmful they can be.


"I never let my schooling get in the way of my education" Mark Twain, even he figured it out way back when that "Public Education" was a joke
 
2014-03-07 09:36:52 PM  

dantheman195: MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?

I agree, public education has turned into a joke

Abolish and start over

This time with common sense as the core instead of PC liberal BS


Uh... yeah... ok

/get out of CPAC early, Ted?
 
2014-03-07 09:37:29 PM  
Teachers make good money, and I frankly don't care for the oft repeated lie that they are all perpetual paupers.

And I have been good to the schools when I vote!  No more. Schools get more money, kids get dumber and meaner.

It's almost like many teachers are lazy authoritarians who didn't get as far as they had hoped and are getting their jollies with power trips one way or another with other people's children.
 
2014-03-07 09:37:59 PM  

The hopeless imp: Public education isn't the problem, it's the people willing to work for the low salaries because nobody wants to pay higher taxes to support it.


One of the most common reasons I heard among qualified teachers who chose to teach abroad was that they didn't want to have to deal with bullshiat regulations that don't let you put a freezing girl in your car with the heat on. The other were crappy pay and no respect.
 
2014-03-07 09:39:03 PM  
Boo hoo; little 'flake got a little frostbite. It looks like she's still got all of her bits. When I was her age; I had to walk 20 miles, barefoot, uphill both ways, in the snow; while fighting Balrogs to get to school.
 
2014-03-07 09:40:29 PM  

Brainsick: Crudbucket: miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.

Especially since his car is warm and dry. It would just lead to strong words in the staff room and flying accusations.

*Shakes tiny fist*


Both of you, do not stand so close to me.
 
2014-03-07 09:40:57 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2014-03-07 09:41:54 PM  

The hopeless imp: MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?

Public education isn't the problem, it's the people willing to work for the low salaries because nobody wants to pay higher taxes to support it.


Where are you going to get a better wage for 180 days a year of work with full benefits, a pension, and only an English degree as qualifications?
 
2014-03-07 09:43:16 PM  

miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.


Ignore written policy? Might as well update your resume.
 
2014-03-07 09:43:21 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I know the fire code exists for a reason, but there are a lot worse places to be during a fire than in a pool.

/Yes, I know about the chemicals and the closed space and the filters


You don't die from fire you die first from the toxic gases. A pool is no safer than anywhere else.
 
2014-03-07 09:43:53 PM  
In my state, teachers start at 34K. That's with no previous service and just a BA.

I'd favor paying them much, much more, if the kids were actually learning.
 
2014-03-07 09:44:45 PM  

Crudbucket: miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.

Especially since his car is warm and dry. It would just lead to strong words in the staff room and flying accusations.


LOL
 
2014-03-07 09:45:41 PM  
well, on the bright side it looks as though St. Paul will be paying for her college.
 
2014-03-07 09:46:38 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: The hopeless imp: Public education isn't the problem, it's the people willing to work for the low salaries because nobody wants to pay higher taxes to support it.

One of the most common reasons I heard among qualified teachers who chose to teach abroad was that they didn't want to have to deal with bullshiat regulations that don't let you put a freezing girl in your car with the heat on. The other were crappy pay and no respect.


I'd like to teach a broad; if you know what I mean.. And I think you do....
 
2014-03-07 09:50:07 PM  
It happened around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday at Como Park High School in St. Paul


Back in the 80s we used to go to keg parties thrown by Como High upper class men.

They were held on Friday nights around a huge stone fire-pit, right in Como Park and along side the road (50 feet from the curb).  The cops would drive by numerous times during the party, but we were assured by the Como kids that they'd leave us alone (all 50 or so of us) until 11:30.

At 11:30 they'd make their final pass, but this time with the spot light on us and that was our notice to get the fark out.

Everyone left in an orderly fashion for various after-parties, because we were warned it meant our ass if we made the cops get out of their cars.

The cops in our own neighboring town were not nearly so obliging when it came to our parties.
 
2014-03-07 09:52:01 PM  
In another article, a teacher told the students to get dressed then go outside. Two girls decided to not do that.
 
2014-03-07 09:53:40 PM  

TomD9938: It happened around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday at Como Park High School in St. Paul


Back in the 80s we used to go to keg parties thrown by Como High upper class men.

They were held on Friday nights around a huge stone fire-pit, right in Como Park and along side the road (50 feet from the curb).  The cops would drive by numerous times during the party, but we were assured by the Como kids that they'd leave us alone (all 50 or so of us) until 11:30.

At 11:30 they'd make their final pass, but this time with the spot light on us and that was our notice to get the fark out.

Everyone left in an orderly fashion for various after-parties, because we were warned it meant our ass if we made the cops get out of their cars.

The cops in our own neighboring town were not nearly so obliging when it came to our parties.


Someone's dad was one of the cops.
 
2014-03-07 09:53:45 PM  
Wait

Do you smell that


*sniff* *sniff*


Smells like a lawsuit to me
 
2014-03-07 09:54:19 PM  
I remember a fire alarm during the middle of an upsate NY winter where we were rushed outside without coats.  Those kids who went out the back or side of the school were allowed to climb aboard buses parked behind the school, those of us who were out the front of the school were left out in the cold with nothing for almost an hour before they marched us back into the school gym.  There we were made to wait for a bus to take us home even if we walked to school, great except the damn bus dropped me off a lot further from my house than the school was from my home so I actually had to walk further without a coat.  I could have been home in ten minutes and warm instead of waiting and trudging through the cold.
 
2014-03-07 09:55:56 PM  

dantheman195: MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?

I agree, public education has turned into a joke

Abolish and start over

This time with common sense as the core instead of PC liberal BS


Yeah! And none of that phony-baloney "science" bullshiat either! Creationism! Prayer every morning before the pledge! Goldarn PC liberals keeping God out of education, what's up with that? American Exceptionalism! None of that namby-pamby socialisms!

Is that the "common sense" you're talking about? And, by the way, are zero tolerance policies really the exclusive doing of PC liberals?
 
2014-03-07 09:56:33 PM  

miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.


The legal theory is that just about anything is permissible in an emergency in order to prevent death or horrible injury. If she was outside in sub-zero weather in a wet bathing suit she was in immediate danger of death or frostbite.
QEDA (Quite Easy, Dumbass Administrator)
 
2014-03-07 09:59:53 PM  

miss diminutive: But due to school policy, she wasn't allowed to sit in a faculty-member's car.

Sounds like someone should have just ignored the policy on compassionate grounds and sat her in the car for her own well being.

But then we'd probably be reading about how the teacher was fired due to the school's zero tolerance policy on student-teacher interactions outside the classroom, or some other such nonsense.


You nailed it
 
2014-03-07 10:00:25 PM  

WelldeadLink: In another article, a teacher told the students to get dressed then go outside. Two girls decided to not do that.


Slamjob to deflect lawsuit begins.
 
2014-03-07 10:01:22 PM  

Russ1642: TomD9938: It happened around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday at Como Park High School in St. Paul


Back in the 80s we used to go to keg parties thrown by Como High upper class men.

They were held on Friday nights around a huge stone fire-pit, right in Como Park and along side the road (50 feet from the curb).  The cops would drive by numerous times during the party, but we were assured by the Como kids that they'd leave us alone (all 50 or so of us) until 11:30.

At 11:30 they'd make their final pass, but this time with the spot light on us and that was our notice to get the fark out.

Everyone left in an orderly fashion for various after-parties, because we were warned it meant our ass if we made the cops get out of their cars.

The cops in our own neighboring town were not nearly so obliging when it came to our parties.

Someone's dad was one of the cops.



Could be.

We'd bring portable scanners to our parties in "the woods", just to give ourselves a head start in getting out of there.  Every party got busted in our town (a few miles north of Como / St Paul).

Good times.

/ Hot Tub Time Machine
 
2014-03-07 10:02:02 PM  

meanmutton: The hopeless imp: MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?

Public education isn't the problem, it's the people willing to work for the low salaries because nobody wants to pay higher taxes to support it.

Where are you going to get a better wage for 180 days a year of work with full benefits, a pension, and only an English degree as qualifications?


That's rather impressive because my mother is tri-lingual (teaches Spanish and occasionally French) with a Masters degree and has taught for more than 35 years at the same school. She just barely clears 60,000 dollars and that's because the union's contract was reworked in the late 90s and she was kept on the old pay scale. She also works about 60 hours a week when you factor in grading, lesson prep, student email correspondence (private school-only email client), and all the administrative crap that has to be dealt with.

Enlighten us, Sparky. What do you do that makes my mother's job a walk in the park?
 
2014-03-07 10:02:03 PM  

walktoanarcade: In my state, teachers start at 34K. That's with no previous service and just a BA.

I'd favor paying them much, much more, if the kids were actually learning.


If you think this has much to do with teachers, then you're sadly mistaken.

Parents are the reason why kids do poorly in school. When parents don't put an emphasis on getting good grades and don't regularly check up on their kids, there is very little even an excellent teacher can do.

I'm a pretty good example of this. I was a bright kid, with a mind that lends itself towards math and science (professionally, I run a software engineering company, and prior to that I've spent most of my life as a software developer).

But when I was in school, I'd be lucky enough to go a single quarter without half my grades being D's or C's.

People would say, "Well he's obviously just bored with the work." My parents used that a lot. Now that I'm an adult, I think they were just letting me (and them) off the hook. The truth is, they never really made it a big deal. They never really put in the effort to make me care about it and when left up to my own devices I'd rather poke around on my computer than do my school work.

I was capable of breezing through everything with minimal effort (and I often did, passing classes at the last minute by just acing exams and doing a couple of makeup assignments to pad the homework part of the grade). So, boredom or not, when something is that easy, why not do it? The answer is simple: I didn't care enough to do it and my folks never spent the time making me care.

Anyway, my point is - teachers are less of the "problem" with our schools than parents are. School is one of those activities that you're likely to get as much out of as you put in - rarely do we hear the story about the brilliant kid in America who was disadvantaged by having a crappy school. However, too frequently we hear stories about teachers struggling to deal with kids that are completely unmotivated to learn.

To me, this starts at home. If parents aren't motivating their kids to perform well in school, there is very little even the most talented teacher will be able to accomplish with them.
 
2014-03-07 10:05:50 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: meanmutton: The hopeless imp: MaudlinMutantMollusk: School administrators are getting to be so bad it makes me think we SHOULD do away with public education

/make parents responsible for educating their own spawn
//if they can't pass a GED test by 18, kid gets drafted and parents get fined
///why no... I don't have kids. Why do you ask?

Public education isn't the problem, it's the people willing to work for the low salaries because nobody wants to pay higher taxes to support it.

Where are you going to get a better wage for 180 days a year of work with full benefits, a pension, and only an English degree as qualifications?

That's rather impressive because my mother is tri-lingual (teaches Spanish and occasionally French) with a Masters degree and has taught for more than 35 years at the same school. She just barely clears 60,000 dollars and that's because the union's contract was reworked in the late 90s and she was kept on the old pay scale. She also works about 60 hours a week when you factor in grading, lesson prep, student email correspondence (private school-only email client), and all the administrative crap that has to be dealt with.

Enlighten us, Sparky. What do you do that makes my mother's job a walk in the park?


Anyone that actually knows someone who teaches knows that rant is bullsh*t

/my buddy and I watch football games and drink beer while his wife sits in the other room grading papers and preparing assignments on weekends
 
2014-03-07 10:05:59 PM  

kling_klang_bed: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 278x400]

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x953]


Such a shame that at such a young age she has freaking udders.
 
2014-03-07 10:12:48 PM  

TwistedFark: walktoanarcade: In my state, teachers start at 34K. That's with no previous service and just a BA.

I'd favor paying them much, much more, if the kids were actually learning.

If you think this has much to do with teachers, then you're sadly mistaken.

Parents are the reason why kids do poorly in school. When parents don't put an emphasis on getting good grades and don't regularly check up on their kids, there is very little even an excellent teacher can do.

I'm a pretty good example of this. I was a bright kid, with a mind that lends itself towards math and science (professionally, I run a software engineering company, and prior to that I've spent most of my life as a software developer).

But when I was in school, I'd be lucky enough to go a single quarter without half my grades being D's or C's.

People would say, "Well he's obviously just bored with the work." My parents used that a lot. Now that I'm an adult, I think they were just letting me (and them) off the hook. The truth is, they never really made it a big deal. They never really put in the effort to make me care about it and when left up to my own devices I'd rather poke around on my computer than do my school work.

I was capable of breezing through everything with minimal effort (and I often did, passing classes at the last minute by just acing exams and doing a couple of makeup assignments to pad the homework part of the grade). So, boredom or not, when something is that easy, why not do it? The answer is simple: I didn't care enough to do it and my folks never spent the time making me care.

Anyway, my point is - teachers are less of the "problem" with our schools than parents are. School is one of those activities that you're likely to get as much out of as you put in - rarely do we hear the story about the brilliant kid in America who was disadvantaged by having a crappy school. However, too frequently we hear stories about teachers struggling to deal with kids that are completely unmotivated to l ...


Ok, you won me over for the most part. However, I reserve my earlier sentiment for a growing minority of outrageous examples, that is, I think teachers are starting to not give a shiat too.

I'm not being snarky, I agree with you. I needed to hear that, I think. Yes, the kids do get what they put in and the parents need to parent-teach their children to shut the hell up when their teachers tell them to do so. And they need to be trained by their parents to pay attention more than ever before because I truly feel teachers are becoming lazy, as are many people.

I'm a lazy fark sometimes. I can admit it, and I don't teach, though.
 
2014-03-07 10:12:50 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: WelldeadLink: In another article, a teacher told the students to get dressed then go outside. Two girls decided to not do that.

Slamjob to deflect lawsuit begins.


It's completely irrelevant whether the teacher had told them to get dressed. It's completely irrelevant whether it was a real fire or a drill. It's completely irrelevant ANYTHING except that the girl was wearing a bathing suit and it was below zero and there was a car she could have sat in; and "school policy" said "sorry, we can't do that," and every single adult went "okey-doke!" and let a CHILD stand in the freezing cold in a bathing suit. Because rules.

If anyone can think of a reason why that is okay, then you are as much to blame as the teachers, the school and the rest of them, and you should be ashamed of yourselves. And you deserve to be pulled over by mean cops at the earliest opportunity and strip-searched by the side of the road and you better let them do it, because rules.
 
2014-03-07 10:13:26 PM  

OhioUGrad: kling_klang_bed: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 278x400]

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x953]

Such a shame that at such a young age she has freaking udders.


Hell, I'd happily milk those udders, and she can milk mine!

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