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(TreeHugger)   To the left: A realistic & economically sound plan to get everything, in every state, fully powered with renewable energy by 2050. To the right: naysayers explaining why this is impossible   (treehugger.com) divider line 26
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2014-03-07 02:44:33 PM
5 votes:

dj_bigbird: I assume by "onshore wind" they're referring to windmills that kill lots of birds and for solar PV and CSP plants, they're talking about places that cook birds.


Also a place that cooks birds.
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2014-03-07 02:23:47 PM
5 votes:
But mah lightbulbs! I ain't usin' no Obama bulbs.
2014-03-07 02:30:16 PM
4 votes:

MrSteve007: As I've said on fark many times before - almost everything directly in my life is powered by solar power: house, work, car. If I can do that in perpetually cloudy Seattle, anyone can.

My full return on investment will be July 2017 - a little over three years from now. After that, every watt I generate is money in my pocket. Considering most of the equipment is warrantied for another 22 years - I expect to save a load of cash.


Yeah but what about Benghazi!
2014-03-07 02:26:29 PM
3 votes:

dj_bigbird: I assume by "onshore wind" they're referring to windmills that kill lots of birds and for solar PV and CSP plants, they're talking about places that cook birds.


Are you saying you're for or against?

/Everyone hates birds, right?
2014-03-07 01:50:38 PM
3 votes:
I assume by "onshore wind" they're referring to windmills that kill lots of birds and for solar PV and CSP plants, they're talking about places that cook birds.
2014-03-07 02:35:55 PM
2 votes:
Stopped reading after this sentence:

"In 2011, a scientist, a banker, an actor, and a filmmaker, came together to envision a pathway to 100% renewable energy in the US..."

Of course they did. Of  course they did.
2014-03-07 02:29:12 PM
2 votes:

Molavian: It was posted on treehugger.


This.

Treehugger.  The RightWingNews.com of the left.
2014-03-07 02:27:03 PM
2 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vernonFL: Of course it CAN be done, the question is whether or not we have the political will to do so.

As long as extractive energy companies are dropping mad cash on their favorite political candidates, the whole plan is an uphill battle.


And NIMBY's.  NIMBY's delay any infrastructure project for 2 decades after tripling the price.

At least the Republican Party is honest about wanting to fark the poor.
2014-03-07 01:58:26 PM
2 votes:
And behind the keyboard, someone using a browser mandated by work that doesn't support the pages needed to look at the plan... :/
2014-03-07 03:30:20 PM
1 votes:
Those folks pushing this plan should stop answering the door, hire food tasters and bodyguards, and get facial plastic surgery.

Also, thorium reactors are a very safe nuclear technology that could get the ball rolling as we bring the more diverse sources online.
2014-03-07 03:19:45 PM
1 votes:

FLMountainMan: durbnpoisn: Everyone knows that we humans are killing the environment with our usage of fossil fuels.

What exactly is "killing the environment"?  We aren't killing much of anything, from a grand view.  Changing it, surely.  But we began changing the environment the second we descended from the trees.


For me, that was last week, but I'd been drinking.
2014-03-07 03:13:32 PM
1 votes:

dj_bigbird: places that cook birds.


not during lent.
They fry fish during Lent.
2014-03-07 03:13:21 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: FTFY


Actually, no.
2014-03-07 03:08:41 PM
1 votes:
I see infographics and grandiose promises (like every proposed project to solve america's ills), but I don't see any specifics or data to back it up.
2014-03-07 03:00:52 PM
1 votes:

StopLurkListen: You really care about birds? Then direct your attention to something that will have a bigger effect.


{Cats at top of list}

You want it even HARDER to get a Caturday thread greenlit? Jeez.
2014-03-07 02:53:29 PM
1 votes:
Man, I wish someone would develop a way to harness the energy of a potato.   This way this country would not only be fully energy independent, but it would also be able to sell its spare energy to more potato-challenged countries.
2014-03-07 02:48:58 PM
1 votes:

Begoggle: dj_bigbird: I assume by "onshore wind" they're referring to windmills that kill lots of birds and for solar PV and CSP plants, they're talking about places that cook birds.

Also "windows" kill birds, and don't even get me started on the "cats", so obviously those things can't be done either.
Coal and nuclear waste is good for birds.


That's what I feed mine. Birds are supposed to have opposable thumbs, right?
2014-03-07 02:43:10 PM
1 votes:

draypresct: I really don't understand 40% of Michigan's energy coming from land-based wind farms. Michigan is a terrible place for these.


Presumably, they would all be on land, on the east coast of Lake Michigan. Which would admittedly be a prime spot for catching wind. Not sure how they would handle the winters though. I would  hate to be the poor SOB who had to climb up and fix ice damage on one of those things in, say, late January.
2014-03-07 02:39:48 PM
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: Destructor: Nuclear power & Reprocessing.

Too expensive.


Looking at the levelized cost (most affected by taxes). But looking at the actual cost, transmission distances, land savings in term of power density, and reliability, it becomes hard to beat.

If you really want to leave a tiny ecological foot print, nuclear is the only way to go.
2014-03-07 02:36:25 PM
1 votes:
Didn't bother reading the article, but how do we fuel planes? Last I checked you can't really run a jumbo jet on batteries.
2014-03-07 02:32:28 PM
1 votes:

AngryDragon: This.Treehugger. The RightWingNews.com of the left.


Really? They're owned by Discovery Communications. Creators of such 'beloved' shows as: "Swamp People" "Moonshiners" "Alaska Gold Miners" "Deadliest Catch" etc.

Not exactly liberal ownership.
2014-03-07 02:29:03 PM
1 votes:

dj_bigbird: I assume by "onshore wind" they're referring to windmills that kill lots of birds and for solar PV and CSP plants, they're talking about places that cook birds.


Also "windows" kill birds, and don't even get me started on the "cats", so obviously those things can't be done either.
Coal and nuclear waste is good for birds.
2014-03-07 02:28:34 PM
1 votes:
Fark headline: "A realistic and economically sound plan"

Article: "Obviously, having a roadmap is not the same thing as having a strategic plan"
2014-03-07 02:26:34 PM
1 votes:
The reason we can't?

Eco tree hugging granola eaters, saying we can't affect the migration pattern of the no so rare Arizona sand slug or stupid farking birds who run into wind mills.
2014-03-07 02:26:12 PM
1 votes:
After three rounds of "temporarily allowing all scripts" in FF, I got a cross-script security warning. Sorry, I'll have to comment without RFTA (well, without using their interactive map). It's a sacrifice unheard of in Farkdom, I know. Forgive me.
2014-03-07 01:46:49 PM
1 votes:
Uh, dude, this is AMERICA!
 
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