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(ESPN FC)   Professional football will be starting the season with replacement referees. This is NOT a repeat from 2012   (espnfc.com) divider line 29
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2014-03-07 01:54:54 PM  
Wilson for his second game-winning INT
 
2014-03-07 01:58:42 PM  
SOCCER
 
2014-03-07 02:17:01 PM  
Nobody comes out the winner from this.
 
2014-03-07 02:21:15 PM  
Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS
 
2014-03-07 02:21:52 PM  
I'm glad to see greed isn't just an NFL problem. Although, the NFL league and ownership are better at it than most.
 
2014-03-07 02:37:12 PM  

eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS


Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING
 
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2014-03-07 02:38:46 PM  
The headline is bullshiat and you are bullshiat for perpetrating such a bullshiat headline
 
2014-03-07 02:46:43 PM  

sotua: Wilson for his second game-winning INT


I like to think that game was something of a catharsis for the Seahawks. Like no one thought they won so they had to go out and prove that they deserved to win, again and again, going 26-7 and a Superbowl. That game was the catalyst, the motivation for all the success since.
 
2014-03-07 02:48:10 PM  

DemDave: eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS

Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING


A FIFA ref with 2 of the most physical teams in MLS. I'll watch for sure now. Good luck to SKC
 
2014-03-07 02:51:01 PM  

eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS


www.ghanasoccernet.com
 
2014-03-07 02:57:49 PM  

eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS


Can't get Salazar'd. There's always a silver lining. If they pulled a random Seattle-area HS ref to do the game, it'd be better than Salazar.

/come to think of it, i don;t think he was the scheduled ref...still, f*ck that dude.
 
2014-03-07 02:58:51 PM  

eagles95: DemDave: eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS

Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING

A FIFA ref with 2 of the most physical teams in MLS. I'll watch for sure now. Good luck to SKC


Collin red-carded within 10 minutes.
 
2014-03-07 03:08:32 PM  

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REPLACEMENT REFS! YAY!

 
2014-03-07 03:14:02 PM  
A large group should not be hurt because of a few, no matter what it is. We will see if anybody really notices here.
 
2014-03-07 03:18:08 PM  

eagles95: A FIFA ref with 2 of the most physical teams in MLS. I'll watch for sure now. Good luck to SKC


MLS - We're a tough physical league (because we're untalented and cannot control ourselves very well)
 
2014-03-07 03:25:43 PM  

DemDave: eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS

Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING


Except that the Sounders/Sporting game was supposed to be refereed by Mark Geiger, who is going to be reffing at the World Cup in a few months. So it is actually a step down, though Alan Kelly (the former FIFA ref from Ireland) isn't that far of a step down. He's done some low-level UEFA World Cup Qualifiers, early-round Champions League games (Partizan - Ludogorets, Bayern Munich - Plzen) and some low-level Europa League games. As for the rest - Abbey Okulaja is back? Really? That's not going to go well.

And yes, the ARs are likely to be disastrous.
 
2014-03-07 03:33:06 PM  

MugzyBrown: eagles95: A FIFA ref with 2 of the most physical teams in MLS. I'll watch for sure now. Good luck to SKC

MLS - We're a tough physical league (because we're untalented and cannot control ourselves very well)


It's becoming less so, but there is still some of that. Mostly now it's because of a "let them play" attitude. For every time a ref gets fooled by a dive in MLS, there're two or three guy getting hammered with no foul called. I can only speak to the guys on the Sounders who have been victims of hacking, like Dempsey and Rosales last season. I know Portland complained about Nagbe being hammered every time he touched the ball. The book on playing against good players in MLS is the hack the sh*t out of them because the refs will only call a few of them.

The problem is that you end up with your best players missing games with sprained ankles, wear and tear injuries, broken bones, etc. By trying to put a "tougher" looking product on the field you end up with a lot of muddled, unattractive, sloppy soccer.
 
2014-03-07 03:42:40 PM  
Go Sounders!  Scarves Up!

/hate Salazar...
 
2014-03-07 04:08:15 PM  
It's just soccer.  It's not like it's a real sport like NASCAR
 
2014-03-07 04:11:16 PM  

pslong009: DemDave: eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS

Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING

Except that the Sounders/Sporting game was supposed to be refereed by Mark Geiger, who is going to be reffing at the World Cup in a few months. So it is actually a step down, though Alan Kelly (the former FIFA ref from Ireland) isn't that far of a step down. He's done some low-level UEFA World Cup Qualifiers, early-round Champions League games (Partizan - Ludogorets, Bayern Munich - Plzen) and some low-level Europa League games. As for the rest - Abbey Okulaja is back? Really? That's not going to go well.

And yes, the ARs are likely to be disastrous.


Refer to the pic of Coulibaly upthread for an explanation of why "he's reffing at the World Cup" means nothing.
 
2014-03-07 04:13:24 PM  

Shame Us: pslong009: DemDave: eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS

Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING

Except that the Sounders/Sporting game was supposed to be refereed by Mark Geiger, who is going to be reffing at the World Cup in a few months. So it is actually a step down, though Alan Kelly (the former FIFA ref from Ireland) isn't that far of a step down. He's done some low-level UEFA World Cup Qualifiers, early-round Champions League games (Partizan - Ludogorets, Bayern Munich - Plzen) and some low-level Europa League games. As for the rest - Abbey Okulaja is back? Really? That's not going to go well.

And yes, the ARs are likely to be disastrous.

Refer to the pic of Coulibaly upthread for an explanation of why "he's reffing at the World Cup" means nothing.


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2014-03-07 05:32:04 PM  

DemDave: The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.


She might not be the best, but Sian Massey is fun to watch.
 
2014-03-07 06:07:13 PM  
and thus  the hilarity did begin.
 
2014-03-07 06:26:28 PM  

Shame Us: pslong009: DemDave: eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS

Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING

Except that the Sounders/Sporting game was supposed to be refereed by Mark Geiger, who is going to be reffing at the World Cup in a few months. So it is actually a step down, though Alan Kelly (the former FIFA ref from Ireland) isn't that far of a step down. He's done some low-level UEFA World Cup Qualifiers, early-round Champions League games (Partizan - Ludogorets, Bayern Munich - Plzen) and some low-level Europa League games. As for the rest - Abbey Okulaja is back? Really? That's not going to go well.

And yes, the ARs are likely to be disastrous.

Refer to the pic of Coulibaly upthread for an explanation of why "he's reffing at the World Cup" means nothing.


An American getting a spot at the World Cup, with a whistle no less, is a big thing. Much bigger than a random African getting a spot because the tournament was in Africa and they couldn't find another decent referee.

Geiger is definitely the best referee in the US right now.
Kelly, although a former Irish FIFA, spent most of his time reffing in a league with a lower level of play than MLS, believe it or not. His biggest Champions' League assignments were between heavy hitters and small minnows, hardly premier assignments.
Geiger, meanwhile, is the only American to ever referee a major men's tournament final, along with assignments at the Olympics in London and the most recent Club World Cup. He's also at the top of his game rather than coming out of effective retirement like Kelly.

I'm not going to say that Kelly is a bad referee because he definitely is not, but I do feel he's a step down from Geiger.

Also, get ready for some ABBEY TIME in Vancouver!
 
2014-03-07 06:30:43 PM  

FourDirections: DemDave: The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

She might not be the best, but Sian Massey is fun to watch.


I don't think i've ever seen her make a bad call. That's more than can be said for a lot of the current EPL lino's.
 
2014-03-07 06:45:29 PM  

maniacalclown: Shame Us: pslong009: DemDave: eagles95: Already the shiattiest officials in soccer will get worse...awesome.


/GO SOUNDERS

Actually, the center ref for the Sounders/Sporting game tomorrow is a former FIFA ref from Ireland. So the replacement might actually be an improvement in this instance.

The linesmen are a different story, though. One of them has worked in the NWSL and the other only has MLS experience in preseason matches.

/GO SPORTING

Except that the Sounders/Sporting game was supposed to be refereed by Mark Geiger, who is going to be reffing at the World Cup in a few months. So it is actually a step down, though Alan Kelly (the former FIFA ref from Ireland) isn't that far of a step down. He's done some low-level UEFA World Cup Qualifiers, early-round Champions League games (Partizan - Ludogorets, Bayern Munich - Plzen) and some low-level Europa League games. As for the rest - Abbey Okulaja is back? Really? That's not going to go well.

And yes, the ARs are likely to be disastrous.

Refer to the pic of Coulibaly upthread for an explanation of why "he's reffing at the World Cup" means nothing.

An American getting a spot at the World Cup, with a whistle no less, is a big thing. Much bigger than a random African getting a spot because the tournament was in Africa and they couldn't find another decent referee.

Geiger is definitely the best referee in the US right now.
Kelly, although a former Irish FIFA, spent most of his time reffing in a league with a lower level of play than MLS, believe it or not. His biggest Champions' League assignments were between heavy hitters and small minnows, hardly premier assignments.
Geiger, meanwhile, is the only American to ever referee a major men's tournament final, along with assignments at the Olympics in London and the most recent Club World Cup. He's also at the top of his game rather than coming out of effective retirement like Kelly.

I'm not going to say that Kelly is a bad referee because he definitely is not, but ...


Yeah. My point was that shiatty refs make it to the WC too. So that's not really a selling point if you're trying to say that Geiger is a good ref.
 
2014-03-07 09:49:23 PM  

SDRR: SOCCER


Is not football....no matter what the poor countries want to think.
 
2014-03-08 12:22:59 AM  
At least we know how the story ends.  Week 3, highly visible game, a disastrous call at the end that brings the parties back to the negotiating table.

Going by the MLS website, there are five matches being shown on TV that weekend.  I'll let the soccer fans figure out which teams and which network are most likely to see the end of the lockout via an own goal credited the wrong way.
 
2014-03-08 06:33:39 AM  

steamingpile: SDRR: SOCCER

Is not football....no matter what the poor countries want to think.



It's been called Association Football (shortened to soccer or football) since the first laws were codified in 1863, predating modern American Football by 17 years.

It's called football no matter how much you feel threatened by it.
 
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