WhoGAS: Yeah, I got a bit confused...still am. Did subby just post the wrong link?
SpacePirate: Yay, neurotoxicants in the water supply! Of course, keep calling those people that ask valid questions "crazy". Hell, even call them anti-science. That one works pretty well these days. Like the entire city of Portland, Oregon. /farkers//brushing your teeth works well too///just saiyan
GORDON: Brain damage? Well it would certainly explain all the city people on municipal water supplies voting democrat.Bazinga.
farknozzle: The fluoride part was observed in children in China. The average estimated IQ reduction was about 7 points.I have trouble with pointing to fluroide as the direct cause of the problem, since it's going to be pretty diffuclt to separate out the other potential environmental toxins they might have also been exposed to, what with this being China and all.Also, this paper starts pulling numbers out of their ass towards the end, where they try to equate each lost IQ point with an $18,000 reduction in lifetime earnings. We know neurotoxicity is bad. You don't have to make extra stuff up to show how terrible it is.
correct horse battery staple: Actual study on fluoride cited in Lancet article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/ "Children in high-fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ scores than those who lived in low-fluoride areas".Criticism of study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621182/ "a difference of 0.4 in mean IQ is clinically negligible, even though it was statistically significant"Authors' reply to criticism http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621205/ "For commonly used IQ scores with a mean of 100 and an SD of 15, 0.45 SDs is equivalent to 6.75 points (rounded to 7 points)".Feel free to draw your own conclusions about whether the claimed 7 points on an IQ score is cause for concern.
Tigger: This thread is farking GOLD for figuring out whose who's a moron.
McDougal: simkatu: TFA says nothing about fluoridated water.From TFA: "A meta-analysis of 27 cross-sectional studies of children exposed to fiuoride in drinking water, mainly from China, suggests an average IQ decrement of about seven points in children exposed to raised fiuoride concentrations. "
skantea: At this point in history, if you don't realize that big business does not care about you as an individual then you deserve to be one of the 40% projected to get cancer. It's not a conspiracy, it's just money focused (greedy?) people passing the blame from the top down. In the end LEGALLY it will always be your fault you're sick.
HoratioGates: I used to swallow my toothpaste when I was a kid, and I have an IQ in the 160's.I'm not sure why a kid with an IQ in the 160's would swallow toothpaste, but even we geniuses screw up sometimes, and I'm way too crazy and unfocused to do a study.
meat0918: See the green bit?"This article is made available free of charge, as a service to our users."Not all are, but this one is.
meat0918: At what concentrations and exposures?
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