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2014-03-07 08:53:34 PM

Ishkur: Far Cough: Then, frankly, they shouldn't always cut back and forth between the background reporting and the interview. I realize it's probably because they're spoon-feeding the contrasts/contradictions to the viewer, but the cutting in and out leads to obvious questions. They post the long form interviews online for interesting desk guests that run over; maybe they should offer the same for the news bit guests.

I would love it if they do that. Of course the reason why they edit so brazenly is for time. When you're crunching 2 hours of footage into a four minute segment, a lot is going to be left out, including extraneous pauses and tangents.

I stopped watching reality TV for the same reason. When you realize that they are editing hundreds of hours of footage into 42 minute shows, then you realize how manipulative the editing really is. Especially when they add music.


It's not hundreds, it's maybe like eighty if they are filming from sun up to sun down for a whole week. And even that is tiring as all hell on the actors, director and crew. Much rejoicing is had at sundown on friday.
 
2014-03-07 09:13:40 PM

runwiz: You have to laugh in order to keep from crying.  Yet check and see who those good citizens of Knoxville voted into office and ask then what they think of Obamacare and they'll agree with the Republicans.


On my last visit to Tennessee, I made a wrong turn in downtown Knoxville and ended up in the very heart of downtown, near the site of the World's Fair tower.  The homeless crowds milling around the sidewalks looked like The Walking Dead; I haven't seen that level of despair since Baltimore.  It's a beautiful state full of pockets of horribly poor people, and their elected representatives are some of the abject worst in Congress (Scott DesJarlais, I'm looking in your direction).
 
2014-03-07 09:35:42 PM

duke3522: Bawdy George: duke3522:

I know where you might be able to save $5 a month

It was a gift.


Yeah, I saw that after I posted. My apologies for the snark... been exposed to too many 'baggers today.
 
2014-03-07 09:39:02 PM
Tennesee??
 
2014-03-07 09:42:30 PM

Bawdy George: duke3522: Bawdy George: duke3522:

I know where you might be able to save $5 a month

It was a gift.

Yeah, I saw that after I posted. My apologies for the snark... been exposed to too many 'baggers today.


Np :)
 
2014-03-07 10:02:37 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: It's not hundreds, it's maybe like eighty if they are filming from sun up to sun down for a whole week.


They have more than one cameraman, you know. The Amazing Race has one for each group of contestants. Survivor has AT LEAST three for each tribe. So do the math.
 
2014-03-07 10:37:48 PM
LograyX:
It's nice. Pretty colors.
I don't say he's going to lose his job because of what he said, but that he said it openly.
Like the last guy Aasif got to admit really awful opinions on national television.


I guess I'm just more cynical. I honestly don't see any change in his life or career from this. He works at a place that controls all of the information that his "customers" receive. If they don't remark about it, it never happened.
 
2014-03-07 10:51:54 PM

jlawn001: I guess I give people too much credit.  I mean, there must be something up... no one that stupid would subject themselves to this.
Or... not


I can venture a guess. This guy, like so many guests before, believed that he was finally going to be the one to stick it to those bleeding-heart libtards. Also like so many guests before, he's in such an excited hurry to regurgitate talking points and slogans that he forgets to censor himself and blows his impotent load all over the interview.

I get the same satisfaction hearing Libertarians call in to The Majority Report. "Hi I'm XXX from YYY and I'm a Libertarian. All those guys who called before weren't REAL Libertarians." Hilarity ensues.
 
2014-03-07 11:18:21 PM
My husband's family all live in Knoxville and the surrounding areas, and several even work in the medical field there.

Every single thing he said was true.

I hate it, and I hate it for my home state that they are being such a$$holes and need to screw over the overly large population of poor people in the state from getting basic medical healthcare.  It's one of the many reasons we moved away (no income tax but an incredibly high sales tax and barely any property tax which keeps the school districts incredibly poor;  not to mention the lack of well paying jobs for professionals), but it doesn't mean that I can't stand to see idiotic lawmakers take advantage of a poor and ignorant public because of the money they get from big business.  The worst part is that it's a cycle that people get trapped in...you're told that only the lowest of the low would take government assistance from the time you are born, so people struggle with poverty because their pride keeps them from accepting help until they have no choice.  I have relatives that are struggling with medical bills, yet won't go on the ACA website where they could get a better healthcare plan for almost nothing, and they won't do it because of all of the lies they have been told.  It's the ultimate example of the rich and powerful using the poor in an abominable way.  I hate it.  It's too easy to say that the people deserve it because they voted these idiots in, but no one deserves to struggle to live simply because rich politicians play with their lives.

/end of rant
 
2014-03-07 11:46:07 PM

Huggermugger: runwiz: You have to laugh in order to keep from crying.  Yet check and see who those good citizens of Knoxville voted into office and ask then what they think of Obamacare and they'll agree with the Republicans.

On my last visit to Tennessee, I made a wrong turn in downtown Knoxville and ended up in the very heart of downtown, near the site of the World's Fair tower.  The homeless crowds milling around the sidewalks looked like The Walking Dead; I haven't seen that level of despair since Baltimore.  It's a beautiful state full of pockets of horribly poor people, and their elected representatives are some of the abject worst in Congress (Scott DesJarlais, I'm looking in your direction).


Last year visiting cousins in Gallatin, they showed off their new county emergency response center with all new state of the art equipment.

Paid for by federal DHS funds.

Bootstrappy my ass. That gear came out of FEDERAL tax money the county's so poor the inbreds at the 4th of July fair just made me sad to watch.

These Southern states need to left to their own finances. Cut them loose for a year or two and see how quickly they sink back into the marshes they really are.

Yet they still vote GOP. The party of Lincoln which kicked their asses 160 years ago.
 
2014-03-08 12:07:15 AM

Witty_Retort: Some of the people are so far entrenched in the bubble, they honestly have no idea what TDS does.


The day before this interview, Jim DeMint was on TDS for the main interview.  He was charming, likable, coherent... pretty much everything Jim DeMint normally isn't.  He was clearly in on the joke.  It got me wondering if maybe TDS was so well known now that it's lost its edge.  That the victims were now part of the set-up instead of the punchline.

And then this interview happened.
 
2014-03-08 12:18:06 AM

Mentat: Witty_Retort: Some of the people are so far entrenched in the bubble, they honestly have no idea what TDS does.

The day before this interview, Jim DeMint was on TDS for the main interview.  He was charming, likable, coherent... pretty much everything Jim DeMint normally isn't.  He was clearly in on the joke.  It got me wondering if maybe TDS was so well known now that it's lost its edge.  That the victims were now part of the set-up instead of the punchline.

And then this interview happened.


Some folks handle themselves well. Some do not. DeMint handled himself well. This right-wing jingoist bastard did not.
 
2014-03-08 02:30:34 AM

ItchyMcDoogle: fruitloop: Aasif's interviews are really damn good, it's sad that he will likely be the next to leave TDS.

Was thinking the same thing, he really does the best remotes and interviews. So did Carrel and Colbert as well. I was thinking he might be the next to leave but Bee And Jones have been there a long time too. TDS might be very screwed if those three leave soon


Bee and Jones have been there so long and are so good I have to imagine that they're there because they want to be. I'm sure if they were really trying for other gigs they'd get them.

They probably make decent enough money, and TDS probably gives them a ton of leeway for them to raise their family.
 
2014-03-08 03:30:24 AM

chimp_ninja: Like if Romney won Wisconsin by 8 points.  (Hell, my first guess would be statewide voter fraud, because I have more confidence in the 538 model than I do in our voting machines and oversight.)  I'd bet Silver would have spent months going back over Wisconsin-specific data to find the genesis of the mistake.


If I won the lottery I'd pay Silver to number-crunch the 2004 Bush v Kerry election cycle polls and state-by-state results.  About the only way I'll ever believe it was legit (i.e. no Diebold results manipulations) is if Silver or someone like him, that Princeton professor guy, says so.
 
2014-03-08 04:11:01 AM

hobberwickey: ItchyMcDoogle: fruitloop: Aasif's interviews are really damn good, it's sad that he will likely be the next to leave TDS.

Was thinking the same thing, he really does the best remotes and interviews. So did Carrel and Colbert as well. I was thinking he might be the next to leave but Bee And Jones have been there a long time too. TDS might be very screwed if those three leave soon

Bee and Jones have been there so long and are so good I have to imagine that they're there because they want to be. I'm sure if they were really trying for other gigs they'd get them.

They probably make decent enough money, and TDS probably gives them a ton of leeway for them to raise their family.


I hope so, I like both of them.  Plus Jessica Williams is a Hottie McHotterson :)
Seriously, though, TDS is too good at picking talent for their own good.
 
2014-03-08 06:37:04 AM

jake_lex: I don't think I've ever seen someone whose job it is to go on TV regularly rendered quite so speechless.

Plus, Tennessee was one of the states that declined the Medicare expansion to show Fartbama what for.


Medicaid, not Medicare.   And they likely didn't do it for political reasons, although they may have used political rhetoric as cover.

Many of the poorer states chose not to expand Medicaid, while many of the richer ones did.  Although it seems counter intuitive, there are hard financial reasons for this, which Maryland and South Carolina laid out expertly in Health Affairs.

What it comes down to is that rich states can afford strong social nets, and already had them in place.  So the Medicaid expansion to them consists of the feds covering a % of what they were already paying, for a small % of their population.

Poor states on the other hand don't have much of a budget, because they are a poor state.  In many cases expanding Medicaid to 130% of poverty level would require the state to cover most of their population.  No money + giant expansion = huge problem.

There are some good parts to the ACA.  But taking the worst funded and worst run part of healthcare and expanding it 30%?  That was a really dumb idea.  A better approach would have been to eliminate Medicaid, give the poor free healthcare via the exchanges, and then putting Medicare on the exchanges.
 
2014-03-08 09:15:03 AM
I thought the GOP was pissed about a black POTUS.

They're freaking out because a black POTUS is taking away their weapons.
Those weapons being the ability to kill off the poor, slowly, through shoddy, wealth-entitlement based health care.
 
2014-03-08 09:50:39 AM

SomeAmerican: jake_lex: I don't think I've ever seen someone whose job it is to go on TV regularly rendered quite so speechless.

Plus, Tennessee was one of the states that declined the Medicare expansion to show Fartbama what for.

Medicaid, not Medicare.   And they likely didn't do it for political reasons, although they may have used political rhetoric as cover.

Many of the poorer states chose not to expand Medicaid, while many of the richer ones did.  Although it seems counter intuitive, there are hard financial reasons for this, which Maryland and South Carolina laid out expertly in Health Affairs.

What it comes down to is that rich states can afford strong social nets, and already had them in place.  So the Medicaid expansion to them consists of the feds covering a % of what they were already paying, for a small % of their population.

Poor states on the other hand don't have much of a budget, because they are a poor state.  In many cases expanding Medicaid to 130% of poverty level would require the state to cover most of their population.  No money + giant expansion = huge problem.

There are some good parts to the ACA.  But taking the worst funded and worst run part of healthcare and expanding it 30%?  That was a really dumb idea.  A better approach would have been to eliminate Medicaid, give the poor free healthcare via the exchanges, and then putting Medicare on the exchanges.




A better solution would have been to combine all of the government healthcare programs and made it so every citizen is covered. A "single payer" system, if you will. Like the rest of the 1st world countries have already done. We already cover Medicare through a payroll tax, so that wouldn't change. The amount people pay in Medicare tax may go up, but the amount people pay in health insurance premiums would go down as insurance wouldn't have to cover all risks anymore. It would take a huge weight off the shoulders of companies as they wouldn't need to provide health insurance anymore and it would spur new business creation as people no longer feel chained to their employers to get health insurance.

But we can't do that here because socialism or something.

When we rank 37th in the world for healthcare (tied with Costa Rica) according to the WHO, but 1st in healthcare costs, the system is broken.
 
2014-03-08 12:17:41 PM
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2014-03-08 12:19:11 PM
Just watched it.

Good god- you can actually see the exact moment this douchebag's mind breaks. And like others have stated, the dude  actually doubles down on the stupidity.Un-farking-believable.
 
2014-03-08 12:20:23 PM
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2014-03-08 12:26:05 PM
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2014-03-08 12:28:01 PM
Both parties have told some stories and distorted the facts.  But after Cheney and Rumsfeld got away with murder, the GOP thinks they are immune to 100% rectal extractions, and they are now getting caught for it.
 
2014-03-08 12:47:45 PM
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2014-03-08 01:16:50 PM
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I'm not saying it was aliens...
 
2014-03-08 02:44:28 PM

ManateeGag: I can't believe he said "just stop being poor" - is it that easy?


Hey, if you're poor just ask your parents for a loan.
 
2014-03-08 03:20:23 PM
Healthcare spending in the US is 17.2% of GDP.

It is the largest drag on our economy.

The GOP wants a smaller Government and lower taxes..... because lowering taxes is sort of like giving everyone a raise, and that's good for the economy, right?

Shrinking Government to save people money has consequences....

Fixing our healthcare system would have the exact same effect as lowering taxes (it would put more money in people's wallets.)

AND we know that it is possible to make healthcare cheaper without major consequences (As every developed country in the world has already demonstrated.)

Why is this not the biggest issue to solve for the GOP?
 
2014-03-08 03:31:57 PM
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2014-03-08 03:38:31 PM

Sammichless: Healthcare spending in the US is 17.2% of GDP.

It is the largest drag on our economy.

The GOP wants a smaller Government and lower taxes..... because lowering taxes is sort of like giving everyone a raise, and that's good for the economy, right?

Shrinking Government to save people money has consequences....

Fixing our healthcare system would have the exact same effect as lowering taxes (it would put more money in people's wallets.)

AND we know that it is possible to make healthcare cheaper without major consequences (As every developed country in the world has already demonstrated.)

Why is this not the biggest issue to solve for the GOP?


Top recipients of political contributions from Insurance Companies and Top recipients of political contributions from Health companies
 
2014-03-08 03:47:49 PM

dustman81: Sammichless: Healthcare spending in the US is 17.2% of GDP.

It is the largest drag on our economy.

The GOP wants a smaller Government and lower taxes..... because lowering taxes is sort of like giving everyone a raise, and that's good for the economy, right?

Shrinking Government to save people money has consequences....

Fixing our healthcare system would have the exact same effect as lowering taxes (it would put more money in people's wallets.)

AND we know that it is possible to make healthcare cheaper without major consequences (As every developed country in the world has already demonstrated.)

Why is this not the biggest issue to solve for the GOP?

Top recipients of political contributions from Insurance Companies and Top recipients of political contributions from Health companies


Grrrr. This makes me mad.

Cutting out inefficiencies and drags in the economy and the Government really IS supposed to be their strong suit.

I am VERY fiscally Liberal, but, I have no problems with admitting that intelligent Conservatism is capable of being useful.

Fixing our healthcare system is supposed to be something that they are more passionate about than we are. Them being broken is not good for the nation.
 
2014-03-08 06:37:56 PM

EyeballKid: And, I think the geographic region known as "the South" should always be referred to as "the third world." At least, until there are some signs of progress.


/resides in partially-third-world Kentucky


Your profile says you live in Louisville. Louisville doesn't count.

/resides in the poorest part of the Appalachian poverty map
//Kentucky, near the West Virginia border
 
2014-03-08 06:41:25 PM
I find it very interesting that none of the usual right-wing shills appeared in this thread. I guess some things are even indefensible for them.
 
2014-03-08 06:49:29 PM

SomeAmerican: jake_lex: I don't think I've ever seen someone whose job it is to go on TV regularly rendered quite so speechless.

Plus, Tennessee was one of the states that declined the Medicare expansion to show Fartbama what for.

Medicaid, not Medicare.   And they likely didn't do it for political reasons, although they may have used political rhetoric as cover.

Many of the poorer states chose not to expand Medicaid, while many of the richer ones did.  Although it seems counter intuitive, there are hard financial reasons for this, which Maryland and South Carolina laid out expertly in Health Affairs.

What it comes down to is that rich states can afford strong social nets, and already had them in place.  So the Medicaid expansion to them consists of the feds covering a % of what they were already paying, for a small % of their population.

Poor states on the other hand don't have much of a budget, because they are a poor state.  In many cases expanding Medicaid to 130% of poverty level would require the state to cover most of their population.  No money + giant expansion = huge problem.

There are some good parts to the ACA.  But taking the worst funded and worst run part of healthcare and expanding it 30%?  That was a really dumb idea.  A better approach would have been to eliminate Medicaid, give the poor free healthcare via the exchanges, and then putting Medicare on the exchanges.


Healthcare plans that work for most people won't do as well for people poor enough to qualify for Medicaid. A student stretching a budget can afford a small copay for the doctor, or $10-40 for monthly meds. It's uncomfortable, but I've done it before. If you're poor enough for Medicaid, those small payments just aren't really an option. When I got Medicaid it took me a bit to realize I didn't need to hold off between appointments because of copays. I can totally catch up on things like the dentist and optometrist and gynecologist which I've put off for years because I have to see other doctors so often (having trouble getting narcolepsy meds adjusted properly).

Kentucky Medicaid is done through private insurance companies. Mine is Humana. I think that makes sense, they're more used to handling this shiat. But the copays and what's covered and everything like that can't really just be taken straight from the exchanges. It's serving a very different demographic.
 
2014-03-08 07:37:49 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: ManateeGag: I can't believe he said "just stop being poor" - is it that easy?

Hey, if you're poor just ask your parents for a loan.


Or sue them. That seems to be an option for at least one spoiled, self-entitled teenage moron.
 
2014-03-08 07:42:54 PM

Urbn: ItchyMcDoogle: Yayyy my first politics green light! But sad that this is the highlight of my day.

So I guess the Republican argument is that yes we have the best healthcare in the world but only if you can afford it, but if you can't there is a nice pine box with your name on it. Oh and dont be poor, Slacker. There are people working 40 plus hours a week that cant afford healthcare. They are hardly slackers but the GOP considers them moochers. Free Market must be code for i'm an uncaring A-hole now.

Im also shocked that a 3rd world medical unit has to be called on here in america is not considered news and that I had to learn it on the Daily Show. Way to go Tennessee for sticking it to Obama at the expense of your people

THIS! What the fark? I know what every goddamn Kardashian is up to whether I want to or not - you can't get away from that kind of crap. But no one bothers to cover what's actually going on with real people in our country? (Yes, that's right, Kardashians are not real people. I don't even want to know what they are.)

/Oh, and congrats on the greenlight


And best part?  All of these people being treated there are likely die hard Republicans.
 
2014-03-08 07:43:03 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: MelGoesOnTour: When I was in college (mid 80's) I did not have health insurance yet when I had to go to the doctor or dentist the bills did not kill me. Flash forward to today when a trip to the doctor to check my blood runs several hundred dollars. Over time what has happened is that even though insurance pays for most of that cost, it seems that the insurance industry has built a system wherein providers can charge what they want to because they know they'll be reimbursed and the patient will not go broke (since insurance pays the bills). These days a simple kidney-stone removal procedure might easily run $25K (mine did) whereas 20 years ago it was a fraction of that. In other words, these days if you either cannot afford insurance or if work does not provide it for you...you are simply screwed.

One factor behind this is that insurer HMO or PPO contracts are the only force that pushes prices downwards. So if you were insured and went to an "in-network" doctor and lab, they would have agreed (in advance, with the insurer) to bill probably about 1/5 of what you were billed. Then the insurance picks up whatever percentage of that and the patient pays the rest.

Yep - in the USA, the uninsured pay the most for health care.

Price controls - it's how other countries keep prices more or less sane, and the only thing that works in health care. Free-market competition doesn't work when the prices are opaque, information is this asymmetric, and there are big barriers to entry (not just anyone can draw blood, order tests, prescribe drugs, manufacture drugs, etc., mostly for very good reasons).


Also doctors are paid by procedure, not by hour. This results in doctors ordering tests you have no business doing because they're going to milk you for everything you've got.

Compare this to my dad who goes to the VA. The doctor actually got on the phone with him and ordered a prescription because they're paid hourly, and saw no reason to bring him in for what he had.
 
2014-03-08 07:44:05 PM
When he said "stop being poor", I had to pause the video and walk away because I wanted to crawl thorough my monitor and choke him.

Been unemployed for almost two years, and I have a masters degree.
 
2014-03-08 08:59:43 PM

darch: Just watched it.

Good god- you can actually see the exact moment this douchebag's mind breaks. And like others have stated, the dude  actually doubles down on the stupidity.Un-farking-believable.


yeah, it was pretty impressive. You could see part of his mind is going 'Shut up, shut up this can't be right', while the other part is like 'eh, yeah sure why not, stop being poor works, go with it'
 
2014-03-08 10:14:32 PM

Unoriginal_Username: darch: Just watched it.

Good god- you can actually see the exact moment this douchebag's mind breaks. And like others have stated, the dude  actually doubles down on the stupidity.Un-farking-believable.

yeah, it was pretty impressive. You could see part of his mind is going 'Shut up, shut up this can't be right', while the other part is like 'eh, yeah sure why not, stop being poor works, go with it'


It totally looks set up. The horror is realizing that it wasn't.
 
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