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(The Week)   When it comes to the gay marriage debate, the real bigots are the bigots who call bigots bigots. Bigots   (theweek.com ) divider line
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2014-03-07 10:30:22 AM  
5 votes:

what_now: They appear to want and expect all Americans to recognize and affirm that equal dignity, under penalty of ostracism from civilized life

Yes. That's exactly right.

You are free to be a bigot. Hate all you want. Join the Klan, fly the Confederate flag, tattoo a swastika to your forehead.

But other people will look down at you.


What if I am tall and standing on a ladder?
2014-03-07 11:55:49 AM  
4 votes:
This certainly is the Golden Age for us closeted masochists that see the world in black and white us against them dualities.

Whip me, tease me, tell me I'm intolerant.  Make me get on my knees and lobby for civil rights like the dog that I am.  Don't stop filibustering don't stop until you filibuster a nut.
2014-03-07 10:23:47 AM  
4 votes:

Gecko Gingrich: "A" and wants the force of law to make everyone else follow their beliefs


That's why people are being forced by the state to get gay married.  We knew this would happen.
2014-03-07 03:19:06 PM  
3 votes:

palelizard: Arkanaut: Theaetetus: SkinnyHead: The original meaning of the term "bigot" referred to people who were intolerant of the religious beliefs of others.

Actually, the original meaning of the term "bigot" was "religious hypocrite", and is related to the Italian "bigotto", or a person who is overly and publicly devout - e.g. the people described in Matthew 6:5.

And, accordingly, it's doubly appropriate for Christians who claim to follow teachings that direct them not to judge others and to love each other, but instead spread homophobia and hate.

I thought it was a type of bread or cookie.

No, you're thinking of the thing that sprays water on your ass.


A priest?
2014-03-07 01:07:30 PM  
3 votes:
A wild Skinnyhead appears!

He uses 'Troll'

It's super effective!
2014-03-07 10:51:49 AM  
3 votes:
Is it still ok to be in favor of gay marriage because you really don't give a rat's ass how other people live their lives?

/apathy FTW
2014-03-07 10:37:38 AM  
3 votes:

Nadie_AZ: what_now: They appear to want and expect all Americans to recognize and affirm that equal dignity, under penalty of ostracism from civilized life

Yes. That's exactly right.

You are free to be a bigot. Hate all you want. Join the Klan, fly the Confederate flag, tattoo a swastika to your forehead.

But other people will look down at you.

What if I am tall and standing on a ladder pulpit?


FIFY
2014-03-07 10:27:21 AM  
3 votes:

Barfmaker: I see it as solely a gender discrimination issue. A man and a woman are legally entitled to share spousal benefits, a man and a man are not (or a woman and a woman).

So either it's okay to discriminate based on gender under the law, or it is not.


You'd think that the Equal Protection clause would count double if the two people were men.  But you would be wrong.
2014-03-07 02:22:18 PM  
2 votes:

Debeo Summa Credo: You might start hanging out with the person, talking about sports or electronics or cars, bringing him to group events to meet your other buddies, inviting him to poker night, having sex a few times, going ballgames together and whatnot, THEN finding out he's a homo. I know they didn't choose to be gay but not disclosing it upfront is horribly rude IMO.


gifatron.com
2014-03-07 02:05:37 PM  
2 votes:

Pincy: what_now: They appear to want and expect all Americans to recognize and affirm that equal dignity, under penalty of ostracism from civilized life

Yes. That's exactly right.

You are free to be a bigot. Hate all you want. Join the Klan, fly the Confederate flag, tattoo a swastika to your forehead.

But other people will look down at you.

Came here to say this exact same thing.

Funny thing is, I actually prefer that people be more open about their bigotry.  It makes it a lot easier to avoid them.


Same with gay people. Some are rather obvious about it, and are therefore easy to avoid. Whereas others aren't noticeably gay and there is no way to immediately recognize that they are. Maybe they are single despite being reasonable looking and successful, maybe they dont like sports as much as regular guys do, maybe they don't ogle women or make off color comments, etc., so you can speculate that they are gay but you can't really tell.

I know this makes me sound bigoted to those here who are intolerant of those who aren't PC, but it is really aggravating when you meet a gay person who seems outwardly normal and doesn't make it apparent that he's gay.

You might start hanging out with the person, talking about sports or electronics or cars, bringing him to group events to meet your other buddies, inviting him to poker night, having sex a few times, going ballgames together and whatnot, THEN finding out he's a homo. I know they didn't choose to be gay but not disclosing it upfront is horribly rude IMO.
2014-03-07 01:54:24 PM  
2 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com

sometimes you have to be a bigot in order to take down bigger bigots
2014-03-07 04:58:49 PM  
1 vote:

Facetious_Speciest: cchris_39

But anybody who wants their religious rights respected is a bigoted fool whose rights don't matter.

This doesn't even make sense. No one wants to make you marry another guy. No one wants to force you to officiate a gay wedding. No one wants to force your church or temple or whatever to have homosexual marriages, as far as I know. So what religious rights are you talking about?


It's the part where Jesus told his followers that they should not sell any goods or services to a known homosexual, right?
2014-03-07 04:45:36 PM  
1 vote:
There is no bigot like a gay narcissist bigot.

I suppose they believe that if they sue us enough times we'll accept and celebrate their sin as much as they do.

I use to not care.

Then it got to be in your face every damn day and it got annoying.

Now they want everybody to respect their rights (which still don't even exist in a lot of places). But anybody who wants their religious rights respected is a bigoted fool whose rights don't matter.

Arrogant hypocrisy at its finest.
2014-03-07 04:31:52 PM  
1 vote:

Krymson Tyde: peacheslatour: Krymson Tyde: peacheslatour: Krymson Tyde: I've lost a few bigoted friends over this issue. Woe is me.

 Zounds!  Whatever will you do?

Dunno. Rent my clothes maybe.

I need a ballgown for Saturday night.

I wear boxers or briefs, not gowns. Sorry.


If she wants to wear your boxers as a ball gown, that's her right I suppose.
2014-03-07 04:02:29 PM  
1 vote:

ManateeGag: SkinnyHead: You wouldn't ask a vegetarian caterer to cater your BBQ would you?

why would you consider a vegetarian caterer for your BBQ in the first place?


Consider your source.
2014-03-07 03:57:53 PM  
1 vote:
Bigots need some minority group that they can hate and condemn unabashedly and still be allowed to feel good about themselves.

Liberals have that already, bigots.

The poor bigots have nothing.
2014-03-07 03:57:35 PM  
1 vote:

SkinnyHead: give me doughnuts: Do you honestly enjoy posting in Fark? If so, why?

Fark gives us the opportunity to share and exchange differing views on controversial topics, that's why.


Does this mean you're starting to think of yourself and el chip as two separate people now?

/Yeah, I know, I'm the bad guy for pointing out the obvious, threadshiatting alt.  The obvious, threadshiatting alt is the victim, and I'm the REAL bigot. . .
2014-03-07 03:55:16 PM  
1 vote:

Fafai: mrshowrules: theknuckler_33: SkinnyHead: You wouldn't ask a vegetarian caterer to cater your BBQ would you? If the caterer said no, I'm sorry, I don't believe people should eat animals, most decent people would have some respect and go elsewhere.

Because people choose their diet like they choose their sexual preferences.

Some people like sausage, others like tacos.  Who are we to judge?

I like tacos stuffed with sausage.


sounds like sloppy seconds to me
2014-03-07 03:54:27 PM  
1 vote:
I think Democrats should propose a bill banning Sharia law including their prohibition against same sex marriage?

Watch heads explode.
2014-03-07 03:15:25 PM  
1 vote:

Arkanaut: Theaetetus: SkinnyHead: The original meaning of the term "bigot" referred to people who were intolerant of the religious beliefs of others.

Actually, the original meaning of the term "bigot" was "religious hypocrite", and is related to the Italian "bigotto", or a person who is overly and publicly devout - e.g. the people described in Matthew 6:5.

And, accordingly, it's doubly appropriate for Christians who claim to follow teachings that direct them not to judge others and to love each other, but instead spread homophobia and hate.

I thought it was a type of bread or cookie.


No, you're thinking of the thing that sprays water on your ass.
2014-03-07 03:14:11 PM  
1 vote:
Black people who spoke out against the Klan were the real bigots apparently.
2014-03-07 03:01:49 PM  
1 vote:

factoryconnection: mark12A: My opposition has more to do with maintaining the traditional functionality of marriage (producing and rearing quality replacement citizens) and not the specter of bearded men in wedding dresses...(ewww!)

How will allowing gays to marry diminish the:
a. Child output of heterosexual unions?
b. Adopting/child-rearing abilities of gays?
c. Enforcement of marriage as a child-rearing legal obligation?

How does it affect your rights at all, in fact?


I don't like the idea of any man rearing kids, gay or otherwise.  Just seems wrong.  Gays raising them is OK by me though.
2014-03-07 02:14:17 PM  
1 vote:
Ladies and gentlemen!  I present to you ...

images.nationalgeographic.com

The greatest bigot of the 1950's and 60's!
2014-03-07 02:10:47 PM  
1 vote:

mark12A: I just wish for a day when "religious conservatives PC Warriors" would just go about their business AND QUIT TELLING EVERYONE ELSE HOW TO LIVE.

See how that works?

Stop demanding that I accept Gay Marriage. I don't, and I'm not a bigot. I want gays to be left in peace and live their lives without harassment. My opposition has more to do with maintaining the traditional functionality of marriage (producing and rearing quality replacement citizens) and not the specter of bearded men in wedding dresses...(ewww!)


No one is demanding you ACCEPT gay marriage.  What they are demanding is that gays have every right TO MARRY, have all the benefits of that, and YOU can't tell them they can't.  Where is it written that YOU have to have anything to do with gays, and more importantly, WHERE IS MARRIAGE DEFINED AS ONLY BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN?  I have asked for YEARS where this is, and not once has it been pointed out to me. King Solomon, from that book you seem to beat people up with had what? 700 wives/whores? The "traditional functionality of marriage"?  Really?  I about spit water on that one.  There is no "traditional functionality" of marriage.   You're one of the ones that think marriage is for procreation only.  Fark you on behalf of every couple who cannot conceive, every child who dies in the womb, and just on general grounds that that is farked up thinking.

The "traditional" definition of marriage goes back at least as far as ancient Mesopotamia, and unlike your personal definition, marriage served to seal power deals and acquire lands.  Concubines and acceptable women were brought to the bed to serve as incubators for heirs, not the woman of the marriage.  Only much later did it become "the woman should submit, and bear heirs".  So fark off with the traditional thing.

So until laws are passed that allow bands of fabulous men to kick in your door, gay marry you by force and tell your wife that her entire wardrobe is HORRID, your thought process is weak and unsubstantiated, with absolutely no basis in fact.

So how about you go hide in your little closet so the homoghey doesn't accidentally fall all over you and make you an actual human being.
2014-03-07 02:07:12 PM  
1 vote:
Friedersdorf wrote, because it assumes that "homophobia, anti-gay bigotry, and hatred are obviously what's motivating anyone who declines to provide a service for a gay wedding," when in fact, plenty of gay marriage opponents merely reject it because they regard "marriage as a religious sacrament with a procreative purpose." And that is fundamentally different from bigotry.

Which is of course why they also think that infertile couples, the elderly, or the previously divorced should be denied the sacrement of a nice floral arrangement.
2014-03-07 01:55:16 PM  
1 vote:

CalvinMorallis: If you are against gay marriage, you are a bigot.  Period.  And there's nothing wrong with calling you out on it.


Not necessarily. You could just be a guy in his 15th year of marriage to another guy.
2014-03-07 01:00:29 PM  
1 vote:
Sorry, I feel strongly about language.  Someday I hope to marry a big thick juicy word.
2014-03-07 12:47:54 PM  
1 vote:

SkinnyHead: The original meaning of the term "bigot" referred to people who were intolerant of the religious beliefs of others.


Actually its etymology is French, and refers to a religious hypocrite but thanks again for your undoubtedly thoroughly researched scholarly contribution.
2014-03-07 12:27:47 PM  
1 vote:
The original meaning of the term "bigot" referred to people who were intolerant of the religious beliefs of others.
2014-03-07 11:04:01 AM  
1 vote:
The business community was very upset/concerned of the Arizona law permitting discrimination.   Everyone dodged a bullet.  I would suggest that now we be a good time for all businesses everywhere to purge themselves of their bigots before another law like this is proposed.  Just doesn't make good business sense to have bigots on the pay-rolll.
2014-03-07 10:43:31 AM  
1 vote:

Nadie_AZ: And yet, that appears to be insufficient for some gay marriage proponents. They don't just want to win the legal right to marry. They don't just want most Americans to recognize and affirm the equal dignity of their relationships. They appear to want and expect all Americans to recognize and affirm that equal dignity, under penalty of ostracism from civilized life.

Huh?


It's the best of crazy arguments

"If you want to change the legal status quo that's stopping you from getting equal rights, you're not respecting my sincerely held belief that you should continue to be oppressed, and that's not fair."
2014-03-07 10:25:32 AM  
1 vote:
I see it as solely a gender discrimination issue. A man and a woman are legally entitled to share spousal benefits, a man and a man are not (or a woman and a woman).

So either it's okay to discriminate based on gender under the law, or it is not.
 
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