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(Orlando Sentinel)   So, heroin's making a comeback in one state   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 37
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2014-03-07 08:34:37 AM
It's going gangbusters in Ohio.
 
2014-03-07 08:37:37 AM

The Muthaship: It's going gangbusters in Ohio.


...and Mass, oddly enough, because weed prices spiked...
 
2014-03-07 08:38:31 AM
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That's a bold statement
 
2014-03-07 08:38:34 AM
Uh... heroin is making a comeback in many states. Several friends of friends around the area have died from heroin in the last year or so. The crackdowns on pill mills and doctor shopping was so effective, and doctors are so unwilling to give out narcotics anymore, that people have naturally found another form of poppy based death. It's not just America's wang that loves the smack.... other wang's love smack too! Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, and anywhere else where the hatred of being alive outweighs the love of life.
 
2014-03-07 08:39:48 AM
Don't call it a comeback...
 
2014-03-07 08:40:24 AM

Wadded Beef: Don't call it a comeback...


LL Cool H
 
2014-03-07 08:40:42 AM

Argus Prescott: Uh... heroin is making a comeback in many states. Several friends of friends around the area have died from heroin in the last year or so. The crackdowns on pill mills and doctor shopping was so effective, and doctors are so unwilling to give out narcotics anymore, that people have naturally found another form of poppy based death. It's not just America's wang that loves the smack.... other wang's love smack too! Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, and anywhere else where the hatred of being alive outweighs the love of life.


My fiancee and I have been looking at VT/NH for buying/building a home. It came down to whether we'd want to deal with a heroin problem or meth problem in the state. We're leaning toward heroin (VT).
 
2014-03-07 08:42:00 AM
That is what happens when you crack down on pharmaceutical diversion. Jacksonville used to be one of the biggest towns for narc doctors in the US. Now I have to fight with my home office to keep pain meds in stock just to fill ER and oncology scripts. Junkies are finding other places to get their fix.
 
2014-03-07 08:44:16 AM

hubiestubert: The Muthaship: It's going gangbusters in Ohio.

...and Mass, oddly enough, because weed prices spiked...


I don't believe that for a second.   Aside from the reasons another user mentioned, pills are much more expensive than heroin.

Nobody just says "oh fark, $150 a quarter for some kind bud?   Got any heroin?"
 
2014-03-07 08:45:26 AM
Yeah yeah, we get it, it's all Florida's fault.
 
2014-03-07 08:46:31 AM
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2014-03-07 08:46:53 AM

hubiestubert: The Muthaship: It's going gangbusters in Ohio.

...and Mass, oddly enough, because weed prices spiked...


It has nothing to do with weed. It is because cII drugs are impossible to find. Also the price of hydrocodone doubled this year when lorcet and lortab got pulled off the market.
 
2014-03-07 08:48:53 AM
In my small town in Virginia, there's a town meeting next week. It's an open meeting to discuss the impact of heroin in the community.

I laughed at this a couple weeks ago as my town has a thriving population of 1600, mostly retired blue hairs. However, this week someone just got popped with 40 farking pounds of the stuff. I'd guess that it was just passing through as we are close to a major interstate.

Small town cops didn't put a price on it so there's no cop math involved. They just said 40 pounds of H and thousands of dollars were confiscated.

/I'm blaming Obama
 
2014-03-07 08:49:52 AM
Old news is good news.

Heroin is so big in Ohio that Columbus is now a hub for the Midwest and East coast. Mexican cartels import directly to C-bus and distribute from here like it's farking UPS. Most believe its huge surge in popularity is due to both low cost and prescription pill addiction. Once the doctors cut off your oxy prescription, H is the closest high, since they're both opiates. Pills and weed are expensive here, but H is cheap and plentiful.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:04 AM
A) It's interesting that what's bringing this to the authorities attention is that deaths are increasing.
B) They also noticed that heroin has crept in since pharmaceutical level opiates have been displaced due to the War on Drugs.
C) Therefore, the war on drugs has increased deaths due to drugs.

Hell of a system there guys.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:41 AM

gfid: hubiestubert: The Muthaship: It's going gangbusters in Ohio.

...and Mass, oddly enough, because weed prices spiked...

I don't believe that for a second.   Aside from the reasons another user mentioned, pills are much more expensive than heroin.

Nobody just says "oh fark, $150 a quarter for some kind bud?   Got any heroin?"


No, but if you're an addict looking for a high, you get it as cheaply as possible. See my post above. There have been many articles about heroin's growth in Ohio and the likely reasons.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:46 AM

Marquis de Sod: [img.fark.net image 480x360]

That's a bold statement


It's a sellers market.
 
2014-03-07 09:00:08 AM
Ought to be a law that you get caught with illegal drugs, you can avoid the criminal justice system if you inject them all on the spot while the officers record what happens to you.
Pup those puppies up on you tube.
See who thinks smack if cool after that.
Got meth? Eat it all now.
Caught me with a quarter ounce of weed?
gimme a pepsi to wash it down.
 
2014-03-07 09:02:44 AM

kittyhas1000legs: We're leaning toward heroin (VT)


Oh yeah. Vermont is VERY Herion friendly.
We're putting up clinics all the time to coddle the little snowflakes that think it's cool to stick needles full of poison in their arms.
 
2014-03-07 09:03:48 AM

Alfonse Gregory: gfid: hubiestubert: The Muthaship: It's going gangbusters in Ohio.

...and Mass, oddly enough, because weed prices spiked...

I don't believe that for a second.   Aside from the reasons another user mentioned, pills are much more expensive than heroin.

Nobody just says "oh fark, $150 a quarter for some kind bud?   Got any heroin?"

No, but if you're an addict looking for a high, you get it as cheaply as possible. See my post above. There have been many articles about heroin's growth in Ohio and the likely reasons.


If you're an opiate addict looking for a fix you mean.  Maybe even a crack or meth addict would use heroin if they couldn't get their fix, but a pot "addict" is not going to say "Here, use my arm." when he sees some cheap heroin.
 
2014-03-07 09:05:41 AM
Legalise it. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that out.
 
2014-03-07 09:07:39 AM
So what?  I live in bumfark nowhereville Wisconsin, and I can go to any of the 10 bars downtown and buy whatever drugs I like.

War on Drugs, indeed.
 
2014-03-07 09:18:36 AM
Must have been invaded by the US Military, that's what happened in Afghanistan.
 
2014-03-07 09:31:09 AM

The Muthaship: It's going gangbusters in Ohio.


Northern KY is no slouch either.
 
2014-03-07 09:31:29 AM
I still think we should be able to get a prescription for purchase of recreational drugs (alcohol, tobacco, weed, pharmaceuticals, coke, heroin) that accepts that it's recreational, and the doctor/prescription part is basically there to make sure you're not so unfit that you shouldn't do it.. A doctor is not gonna give an obese, sedentary person a prescription for cocaine, not gonna give an absessed junkie a prescription for more heroin, an unemployed homeless person a prescription for anything. Maybe instead of a prescription, make a new classification to be put on one's ID card.. That would also mean it would be possible for full grown adults can lose their "right" to buy booze and tobacco. The side effect I predict is that I think there would be a cultural swing where people lose their rights due to their own mistakes, and I think most upstanding people would be extremely intolerant when those people try to get them to buy stuff for them. It would be like "get a job!" only more, because it's for recreational purposes by default. Also there would be no point in the black market, so it would shrink enough to where cops might stand a chance of mostly squashing it. Then people can just go to the doc and say "gimme some oxy and xanax" and the doc checks your vitals, writes the script, and you come back in a month to make sure you're lucid and employed, and go ahead and put 6 month refills on it.. Hell, it would be a good way for Obamacare to get druggies to the damn doctor twice a year for a checkup. The idea needs work, but any part of it would be better than this bullshiat.
 
2014-03-07 10:09:35 AM

Sczi: I still think we should be able to get a prescription for purchase of recreational drugs (alcohol, tobacco, weed, pharmaceuticals, coke, heroin) that accepts that it's recreational, and the doctor/prescription part is basically there to make sure you're not so unfit that you shouldn't do it.. A doctor is not gonna give an obese, sedentary person a prescription for cocaine, not gonna give an absessed junkie a prescription for more heroin, an unemployed homeless person a prescription for anything. Maybe instead of a prescription, make a new classification to be put on one's ID card.. That would also mean it would be possible for full grown adults can lose their "right" to buy booze and tobacco. The side effect I predict is that I think there would be a cultural swing where people lose their rights due to their own mistakes, and I think most upstanding people would be extremely intolerant when those people try to get them to buy stuff for them. It would be like "get a job!" only more, because it's for recreational purposes by default. Also there would be no point in the black market, so it would shrink enough to where cops might stand a chance of mostly squashing it. Then people can just go to the doc and say "gimme some oxy and xanax" and the doc checks your vitals, writes the script, and you come back in a month to make sure you're lucid and employed, and go ahead and put 6 month refills on it.. Hell, it would be a good way for Obamacare to get druggies to the damn doctor twice a year for a checkup. The idea needs work, but any part of it would be better than this bullshiat.


Third word gave it away
 
2014-03-07 10:32:41 AM

Destructor: A) It's interesting that what's bringing this to the authorities attention is that deaths are increasing.
B) They also noticed that heroin has crept in since pharmaceutical level opiates have been displaced due to the War on Drugs.
C) Therefore, the war on drugs has increased deaths due to drugs.

Hell of a system there guys.


So modern Prohibition hasn't really changed? (poisoned alcohol)
 
2014-03-07 10:39:09 AM

silly season: So modern Prohibition hasn't really changed? (poisoned alcohol)


Seems law enforcement has pretty much proven that.
 
2014-03-07 11:18:25 AM
More than one state, stubby.
 
2014-03-07 11:39:00 AM

silly season: Destructor: A) It's interesting that what's bringing this to the authorities attention is that deaths are increasing.
B) They also noticed that heroin has crept in since pharmaceutical level opiates have been displaced due to the War on Drugs.
C) Therefore, the war on drugs has increased deaths due to drugs.

Hell of a system there guys.

So modern Prohibition hasn't really changed? (poisoned alcohol)


Wow, I've  neverheard of/knew about this.  WTF?  That is horrific.  Farking b*stards.
 
2014-03-07 11:44:24 AM
The point is, if addicts/users knew exactly what they were getting, they would be less likely to die. Also, law enforcement is attempting to obtain a level of social control at a huge expense. Their one justification (saving lives) for doing this has eroded thanks to their own efforts (reducing availability of pharma quality drugs).

(Last point: It wouldn't hurt to make Naloxone available.)
 
2014-03-07 12:15:34 PM
PSH. Yeah, right.
 
2014-03-07 12:33:49 PM
Well ever since Heisenberg died this was bound to happen. Hell in a few years it will probably be everyone is taking hallucinagens again. I still remember LSD making a comeback in the early 90s in my area.
 
2014-03-07 02:34:00 PM

kittyhas1000legs: Argus Prescott: Uh... heroin is making a comeback in many states. Several friends of friends around the area have died from heroin in the last year or so. The crackdowns on pill mills and doctor shopping was so effective, and doctors are so unwilling to give out narcotics anymore, that people have naturally found another form of poppy based death. It's not just America's wang that loves the smack.... other wang's love smack too! Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, and anywhere else where the hatred of being alive outweighs the love of life.

My fiancee and I have been looking at VT/NH for buying/building a home. It came down to whether we'd want to deal with a heroin problem or meth problem in the state. We're leaning toward heroin (VT).


Building a home or just taking the wheels off of one?
 
2014-03-08 02:17:58 AM
Joliet, IL has practically become the heroin capital of America over the last few years (along with reports of people getting slipped krokodil instead of heroin). The problem in Chicago has gotten much much worse over time.
 
2014-03-08 02:44:49 AM

Argus Prescott: Uh... heroin is making a comeback in many states. Several friends of friends around the area have died from heroin in the last year or so. The crackdowns on pill mills and doctor shopping was so effective, and doctors are so unwilling to give out narcotics anymore, that people have naturally found another form of poppy based death. It's not just America's wang that loves the smack.... other wang's love smack too! Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, and anywhere else where the hatred of being alive outweighs the love of life.


Sadly, one of my good friends died from it back in 2000 (18 years old), and I had to simply get rid of one of my best friends in 2012 over him using it and getting violent towards me and my other friends when we refused to give him money for it, and the violence that came during his withdrawals. For the farking life of me, I will NEVER get why people do shiat like that, crack, meth, etc. What ever happened to having a little bit to drink, smoking some weed and calling it a day?
 
2014-03-08 02:55:08 AM
Next thing to hit it big in FL: Jenkem. You watch!
 
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