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(Townhall)   Texas abortion regulations requiring admitting privileges to nearby hospitals closes two more clinics, a regulation which even Townhall admits are "not necessary to provide women emergency care from abortion complications"   (townhall.com) divider line 67
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2014-03-07 09:35:30 AM
I find it interesting how those people/places that claim to love the US Constitution the most are the same ones working the hardest to undermine it.
 
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2014-03-07 09:43:08 AM

mrshowrules: I find it interesting how those people/places that claim to love the US Constitution the most are the same ones working the hardest to undermine it.


They just want people to follow it the way that Conservative Jesus intended it to be followed when he wrote it.
 
2014-03-07 09:47:57 AM

mrshowrules: I find it interesting how those people/places that claim to love the US Constitution the most are the same ones working the hardest to undermine it.


"Interesting" isn't the word I'd use. I don't know if English has a word for it, but it would be somewhere between "Infuriating" and "Unsurprising".
 
2014-03-07 10:58:09 AM
Then: "Regulations are bad! Repeal all the regulations!"

Now: "We need more regulations!"

And they wonder why no one outside the party takes them seriously.
 
2014-03-07 10:59:07 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: mrshowrules: I find it interesting how those people/places that claim to love the US Constitution the most are the same ones working the hardest to undermine it.

"Interesting" isn't the word I'd use. I don't know if English has a word for it, but it would be somewhere between "Infuriating" and "Unsurprising".


It's not a question of whether the English language has a word for it, it's a question of whether Fark has a topic flair for it.
 
2014-03-07 10:59:11 AM
More adult people die from dental visits than from abortions.
 
2014-03-07 11:00:36 AM

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

 
2014-03-07 11:02:23 AM

theteacher: More adult people die from dental visits than from abortions.


By numbers or by percentages? 95+% of people have teeth (or damned close to it, right West Virginia?), but only 20-25% or so (if that) are physiologically of child-bearing potential.

// I would like to see numbers about cosmetic plastic surgery, though
 
2014-03-07 11:02:40 AM
HOLD ON WTF.

A read this entire article and there was not a single inaccurate DERPtastic statement made in it.

A townhall article that isn't biased. What alternative universe have a falled into????!?!?
 
2014-03-07 11:03:42 AM
Shameful... Hopefully, this bullshiat is going to get overturned, but the damage has already been done.

Way to look after your citizens, Texas.
 
2014-03-07 11:04:35 AM
It was never about protecting women, it was about controlling them.
 
2014-03-07 11:06:04 AM

MindStalker: HOLD ON WTF.

A read this entire article and there was not a single inaccurate DERPtastic statement made in it.

A townhall article that isn't biased. What alternative universe have a falled into????!?!?


New Texas abortion law closes 2 more clinics
AP News | Mar 06, 2014

If you need to fill your quota for derp, I'm sure the comments section can help you out.
 
2014-03-07 11:07:25 AM

theteacher: More adult people die from dental visits than from abortions.


FTFY
 
2014-03-07 11:12:28 AM
But it does fit nicely with the GOP and it's anti-business stance!
 
2014-03-07 11:17:33 AM
Small government in action here.

Seriously, 'necks: We get it. You don't like abortion. Therefore, you're free not to have an abortion. You have no authority over the rest of us who don't agree and, just as we aren't forcing you to have abortions, you can't force us not to have abortions. It's been over for more than 40 years. MOVE. ON.
 
2014-03-07 11:20:42 AM
Sanctity of life my ass.  farking hypocrites.

www.chicagotribune.com
 
2014-03-07 11:21:01 AM

Karac: If you need to fill your quota for derp, I'm sure the comments section can help you out.


Ayup

As a pro-Life advocate I can only see this as a victory, not so much for me or people like me but certainly for the millions of innocent Americans who will not be slaughtered in the coming years.

proud to be living in Texas where sanity seems to be prevailing. One Murder Inc. clinic still open is one too many.
Eat that progressive libtards, and we're not done yet. Texas should be an abortion-free state so no more taxpayer money is wasted on killing our own. We know what's going on. How many of those millions killed so far would have grown up to vote Republican and not Demonat? So, eat that Dictator, we in Texas are stopping your madness. Good news for once, I'll take it.

Aaaaand I'm done.
 
2014-03-07 11:21:20 AM
This will cost Texas dearly.

$10k birth at the hospital billed to Medicaid.

18 years of Food stamps.

12 years of free public education.
 
2014-03-07 11:23:43 AM

Karac: MindStalker: HOLD ON WTF.

A read this entire article and there was not a single inaccurate DERPtastic statement made in it.

A townhall article that isn't biased. What alternative universe have a falled into????!?!?

New Texas abortion law closes 2 more clinics
AP News | Mar 06, 2014

If you need to fill your quota for derp, I'm sure the comments section can help you out.


That it can...

"Easy solution-if you don't want a baby, don't get pregnant."

"Eat that progressive libtards, and we're not done yet. Texas should be an abortion-free state so no more taxpayer money is wasted on killing our own. We know what's going on. How many of those millions killed so far would have grown up to vote Republican and not Demonat? So, eat that Dictator, we in Texas are stopping your madness. Good news for once, I'll take it.  "

"Well, this is obviously an AP slanted article.

Just think, these women will actually have to think before giving it away frivolously. They may actually become better women and earn the respect of their menfolk. Abortions are just a way for to perpetuate the careless, irresponsible behavior of some women and their mates. Aren't the values that abortion perpetuate all the wrong values for a complex, diverse society and the people who build it?

Liberal progressives like the Hilderbeast say that abortion should be legal, available, but seldom used. They put the lie to their words when the emphasize the legal and available parts and completely ignore if not deplore the seldom used part. Liberal progressive feminist leadership is a sad joke of incompetence and manipulation."

Have I filled my "seen stupid sentences" quota for the day?  Please say "yes".
 
2014-03-07 11:37:36 AM
Crime rate's gonna go through the f*ckin' roof in this state in about sixteen years. It's been time to plot my escape for awhile now, maybe I should get started in earnest. Gettin' too f*ckin' crowded around here anyway.
 
2014-03-07 11:38:24 AM

theteacher: More adult people die from dental visits than from abortions.


False.  Every abortion results is a person dying.

/am I doing it right
 
2014-03-07 11:41:05 AM

mcreadyblue: This will cost Texas dearly.

$10k birth at the hospital billed to Medicaid.

18 years of Food stamps.

12 years of free public education.


Hold on let me just reach over and press my Give a F*ck button...damn, couldn't reach it.
 
2014-03-07 11:43:09 AM
The best part is that in Texas, probably the vast majority of people giving birth are historical minorities (whites are now a minority in Texas), so really what they've done is ensure Texas becomes even more of a blue state in 20 years.

The damage will have already been done but it isn't like the GOP isn't already in full suicide bomber mode anyway.
 
2014-03-07 11:49:06 AM
I like how the people who support this bill and other s like it act like a woman in need of medical care after something went wrong would be denied entry to the ER because the doctor "didn't have admitting privileges at that hospital". What a load of bullshiat. hey'd just let the woman bleed out on the sidewalk, I suppose?

Fark you, assholes.
 
2014-03-07 11:49:25 AM

bdub77: The best part is that in Texas, probably the vast majority of people giving birth are historical minorities (whites are now a minority in Texas), so really what they've done is ensure Texas becomes even more of a blue state in 20 years.

The damage will have already been done but it isn't like the GOP isn't already in full suicide bomber mode anyway.


Regardless of ethnicity, unwanted children are filled with hate and resentment and therefore, I would assume, become Conservatives.
 
2014-03-07 11:51:13 AM

Mikey1969: I like how the people who support this bill and other s like it act like a woman in need of medical care after something went wrong would be denied entry to the ER because the doctor "didn't have admitting privileges at that hospital". What a load of bullshiat. hey'd just let the woman bleed out on the sidewalk, I suppose?

Fark you, assholes.


They're the same people who think the woman in question should die on the sidewalk if she doesn't have insurance already, since healthcare is only for people who can afford it.
 
2014-03-07 11:55:27 AM

Karac: MindStalker: HOLD ON WTF.

A read this entire article and there was not a single inaccurate DERPtastic statement made in it.

A townhall article that isn't biased. What alternative universe have a falled into????!?!?

New Texas abortion law closes 2 more clinics
AP News | Mar 06, 2014

If you need to fill your quota for derp, I'm sure the comments section can help you out.


This was a particularly stupid one...

Just think, these women will actually have to think before giving it away frivolously. They may actually become better women and earn the respect of their menfolk. Abortions are just a way for to perpetuate the careless, irresponsible behavior of some women and their mates...

Because pregnancy is ONLY the fault of women, don'tchaknow?
 
2014-03-07 11:59:08 AM

mrshowrules: bdub77: The best part is that in Texas, probably the vast majority of people giving birth are historical minorities (whites are now a minority in Texas), so really what they've done is ensure Texas becomes even more of a blue state in 20 years.

The damage will have already been done but it isn't like the GOP isn't already in full suicide bomber mode anyway.

Regardless of ethnicity, unwanted children are filled with hate and resentment and therefore, I would assume, become Conservatives.


That is also a possibility:

Phase 1: Create lots of dumb, hateful people
Phase 2: Evangelical madrasas
Phase 3: Derp
 
2014-03-07 12:04:08 PM

Mikey1969: I like how the people who support this bill and other s like it act like a woman in need of medical care after something went wrong would be denied entry to the ER because the doctor "didn't have admitting privileges at that hospital". What a load of bullshiat. hey'd just let the woman bleed out on the sidewalk, I suppose?

Fark you, assholes.



Even better -- just like in the pre-Roe days, women who can't afford to slink off somewhere to get their abortions will be trying to do it themselves or they'll get one from someone who's not a medical professional. Then they'll get sick and possibly die from the resulting infection, for which they'll receive absolutely zero sympathy from these good Christian Texans.

There are reports that this is already happening more and more in Texas since they've started legislating clinics out of existence.
 
2014-03-07 12:08:22 PM
and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes
 
2014-03-07 12:11:13 PM

The Fifth Dentist: and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes


Nations with accessible Government paid abortions have fewer abortions than the US.  I honestly cannot think of a single GOP position which sets the conditions for less abortions.
 
2014-03-07 12:13:13 PM

The Fifth Dentist: and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes


You've got to remember how punishment-centered their world view is - that's the difference. They see the person convicted of whatever crime to have had their chance and to have blown it and been judged, and the guilty must PAY for the sake of REVENGE! The baby, on the other hand - which is in their imaginations an actual baby rather than the sac of protoplasm which it actually is at that point - has never had its chance to act and be judged either way.

This is also why they think women who have sex are "sluts" and need to be punished rather than taking what they see as the easy way out of their punishment, which is abortion.

...And also why people who are poor need to be punished for their wrongs, people who are gay need to be punished for their wrongs, etc. etc. etc. Pretty much all of it is the polar opposite of what is Christian. It would be funny if it weren't true.
 
2014-03-07 12:17:06 PM

The Fifth Dentist: and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes


I managed not to address your observation there; sorry. You're right - making legal abortions harder only drives them underground and therefore much more dangerous. But again, they "deserve" the punishment for their "sins," etc. etc.
 
2014-03-07 12:29:42 PM

mrshowrules: The Fifth Dentist: and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes

Nations with accessible Government paid abortions have fewer abortions than the US.  I honestly cannot think of a single GOP position which sets the conditions for less abortions.


And those nations aren't even Christian nations like the US!
 
2014-03-07 12:30:20 PM

mcreadyblue: This will cost Texas dearly.

$10k birth at the hospital billed to Medicaid.

18 years of Food stamps.

12 years of free public education.


But they stuck it to the Libs and put those uppity women in their place.  So it's all good in their mind.
 
2014-03-07 12:36:35 PM
It boggles my mind that in 2014 we still have states that are absolutely fixated on denying women access to contraception and to abortion.  I guess when you are a party whose only policy ideas are "tax cuts good, regulations bad," you need some shiny object to dangle in front of your backwards constituents.
 
2014-03-07 12:40:27 PM

The Fifth Dentist: and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes


And those Dirty Jezebels will have got what they deserved -- a slow, horrible death followed by eternity in Hell.

/This is what the Theocrat Party actually believes
 
2014-03-07 12:40:53 PM

mcreadyblue: This will cost Texas dearly.

$10k birth at the hospital billed to Medicaid.

18 years of Food stamps.

12 years of free public education.


Yes, there's much concern over those innocent unborns but once they're born they are considered moochers.
 
2014-03-07 12:40:55 PM
In 1989, the chief spy for Al Qaeda Ali Mohammed is quoted on a US military video saying

"Without political domination Islam cannot survive."

Welcome to the Christian flavor of the same animal. The same beast.

Women aren't property of the state--they weren't drafted and they didn't enlist into some army of baby makers. And to the people who think it is some sort of patriotism to subjugate women into reproductive property, why don't you find some other way of showing how much you love this country?

/the documentary Triple Cross tells the story of Ali Mohammed. the saddest thing I've watched in years
 
2014-03-07 12:44:00 PM

BinderWoman: mcreadyblue: This will cost Texas dearly.

$10k birth at the hospital billed to Medicaid.

18 years of Food stamps.

12 years of free public education.

Yes, there's much concern over those innocent unborns but once they're born they are considered moochers.


And Democrats.
 
2014-03-07 12:44:46 PM

menschenfresser: The Fifth Dentist: and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes

You've got to remember how punishment-centered their world view is - that's the difference. They see the person convicted of whatever crime to have had their chance and to have blown it and been judged, and the guilty must PAY for the sake of REVENGE! The baby, on the other hand - which is in their imaginations an actual baby rather than the sac of protoplasm which it actually is at that point - has never had its chance to act and be judged either way.

This is also why they think women who have sex are "sluts" and need to be punished rather than taking what they see as the easy way out of their punishment, which is abortion.

...And also why people who are poor need to be punished for their wrongs, people who are gay need to be punished for their wrongs, etc. etc. etc. Pretty much all of it is the polar opposite of what is Christian. It would be funny if it weren't true.



QFT

Also, they seem all up in arms about their tax money being used to kill innocents.  So do they flip out when their tax money is used in a bull shiat war?  Are they raging when tax dollars are used to keep an innocent person in prison?
 
2014-03-07 12:49:24 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Crime rate's gonna go through the f*ckin' roof in this state in about sixteen years. It's been time to plot my escape for awhile now, maybe I should get started in earnest. Gettin' too f*ckin' crowded around here anyway.


Where do you plan to move? In sixteen years, the boomers will die, and society will trend younger again - crime will be coming back with a vengeance - and that's going to be everywhere in the industrialized World - especially the U.S. and Japan. You're probably right that it will be worse in Texas - but then, everything is.
 
2014-03-07 01:00:02 PM

theteacher: More adult people die from dental visits than from abortions.


More people go to the dentist than the abortionist.
 
2014-03-07 01:01:23 PM

Mikey1969: This was a particularly stupid one...

Just think, these women will actually have to think before giving it away frivolously. They may actually become better women and earn the respect of their menfolk. Abortions are just a way for to perpetuate the careless, irresponsible behavior of some women and their mates...

Because pregnancy is ONLY the fault of women, don'tchaknow?


Question to fedora-lovers: If a woman is obligated to have sex with you if you buy her a drink, but women should keep their legs shut if they don't want to get pregnant, which takes precedence if you buy a drink for a woman who doesn't want to get pregnant?
 
2014-03-07 01:13:02 PM

Fast Moon: Mikey1969: This was a particularly stupid one...

Just think, these women will actually have to think before giving it away frivolously. They may actually become better women and earn the respect of their menfolk. Abortions are just a way for to perpetuate the careless, irresponsible behavior of some women and their mates...

Because pregnancy is ONLY the fault of women, don'tchaknow?

Question to fedora-lovers: If a woman is obligated to have sex with you if you buy her a drink, but women should keep their legs shut if they don't want to get pregnant, which takes precedence if you buy a drink for a woman who doesn't want to get pregnant?


She has to let you stick it in. Women are second class citizens after all... If she has a baby, it's her own damn fault for not turning on the part of the body that 'deals with that stuff'.
 
2014-03-07 01:18:40 PM

jso2897: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Crime rate's gonna go through the f*ckin' roof in this state in about sixteen years. It's been time to plot my escape for awhile now, maybe I should get started in earnest. Gettin' too f*ckin' crowded around here anyway.

Where do you plan to move? In sixteen years, the boomers will die, and society will trend younger again - crime will be coming back with a vengeance - and that's going to be everywhere in the industrialized World - especially the U.S. and Japan. You're probably right that it will be worse in Texas - but then, everything is.


I got an island somewhere. With blackjack. And hookers.
 
2014-03-07 01:25:22 PM

menschenfresser: The Fifth Dentist: and exactly zero abortions have been prevented. The same amount will occur except the maternal fatality rate will skyrocket as it has every time in every single society that has attepmted this sort of bullshiat..

 More death = Pro life? Well done assholes

You've got to remember how punishment-centered their world view is - that's the difference. They see the person convicted of whatever crime to have had their chance and to have blown it and been judged, and the guilty must PAY for the sake of REVENGE! The baby, on the other hand - which is in their imaginations an actual baby rather than the sac of protoplasm which it actually is at that point - has never had its chance to act and be judged either way.

This is also why they think women who have sex are "sluts" and need to be punished rather than taking what they see as the easy way out of their punishment, which is abortion.

...And also why people who are poor need to be punished for their wrongs, people who are gay need to be punished for their wrongs, etc. etc. etc. Pretty much all of it is the polar opposite of what is Christian. It would be funny if it weren't true.


The converse is also true.  The greatest fear or conservatism is that someone somewhere might have something good happening to them that they may not have entirely deserved.  A person able to escape a bad situation,  especially through their own actions rather than at the behest of an authority figure, can't possibly have earned such a thing.  This is why there's always such a demand that people thank god for anything positive that happened to them, because it's the only possible way they can show they deserved it.

So, I guess to really make their brains explode, people should start thanking god for abortion.
 
2014-03-07 01:37:45 PM

mrshowrules: I find it interesting how those people/places that claim to love the US Constitution the most are the same ones working the hardest to undermine it.


That's because their love of the constitution is a dog whistle for "believe in my religion the way I believe in it."

Notice I don't say believe in it the way it was meant to be believed in, because that would be incorrect.
 
2014-03-07 01:55:15 PM

JesusJuice: theteacher: More adult people die from dental visits than from abortions.

More people go to the dentist than the abortionist.


Not valid in Arkansas.
 
2014-03-07 02:16:21 PM

mcreadyblue: This will cost Texas dearly.

$10k birth at the hospital billed to Medicaid.

18 years of Food stamps.

12 years of free public education.


? years of incarceration.

rinse and repeat for the next generation.
 
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