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(Washington Post)   That story Paul Ryan told about the woman in Scott Walker's cabinet who met a young poor boy who didn't want a free lunch, just a brown paper bag like all the other kids? Yeah, full of shiat. But he told it well, so there's that   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 145
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2014-03-07 06:55:00 AM  
First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring? Abbie Hoffman? Angela Davis? "The Left" is just a boogeyman.
 
2014-03-07 07:06:52 AM  
Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.
 
2014-03-07 07:53:28 AM  
And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.
 
2014-03-07 07:54:10 AM  
Kid supposedly wanted a different kind of lunch, so NO LUNCH FOR YOU!!

Even if true, it made no sense.
 
2014-03-07 07:54:34 AM  

RminusQ: Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.


Hey now, Jesus was totally against helping the unfortunate.
 
2014-03-07 07:55:33 AM  
Their ideology requires mythology.
 
2014-03-07 07:55:51 AM  
#woah #wow

makes u think
 
2014-03-07 08:00:04 AM  
Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.
 
2014-03-07 08:01:11 AM  
GOP lying to criticize programs for poor kids?  Unpossible!!  Kids are bootstrappy.  Everyone knows this.  With their wisdom we can understand that we need to vote republican, cut taxes, and fix all of our problems.  I guess I repeated myself there.  After that, we can turn our attention to the real problems - expressing our religious freedoms to turn the gays strait.

Study it out people.
 
2014-03-07 08:01:17 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


I'm seriously starting to believe conservatism is a form of mental illness.  A pathological level of nostalgia with a nice dash of sociopathy tossed in.
 
2014-03-07 08:01:23 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.


Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that
 
2014-03-07 08:02:35 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that


Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.
 
2014-03-07 08:03:30 AM  
What's the problem here?  Why does the story have to be technically true, when all that we should care about is the message it delivers.  One of the things that we learned from the Benghazi scandal is that if we allow the main stream media to control the narrative, and worry about what actually happened, is that we loose the real truth of the situation which is that this administration is ineffectual on foreign policy, as can be seen is the current Crimea situation, as well as domestic policy, as can be seen with the SNAP programs.

If the message is a good one, who cares if it is just a story.  Clear and Present Danger was just a story, but it still made you think about important things.
 
2014-03-07 08:05:38 AM  
Oh yea I remember that kid. He was named Lemonjello. He just wanted a brown paper bag like his older brother Oranjello. A brown paper bag he got from Taco Bell filled with food and paid for with a 2 dollar bill that he EARNED.
 
2014-03-07 08:05:47 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.


WELL, IT'S BETTER THAN OBONGO DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY WITH DEBT AND SOSHALIZM!!!!!

Would still love to hear a single viable proposal from those asshats.
 
2014-03-07 08:05:49 AM  
posed to be pickle in mah lunch wwwhhaarr pickel?
 
2014-03-07 08:09:30 AM  
I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.
 
2014-03-07 08:09:44 AM  

RminusQ: Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.


Yes, lets pick it apart. Perhaps Jeremiah Wright could give us a hand with this embarrassing moment.

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


Facts like...?

born_yesterday: I'm seriously starting to believe conservatism is a form of mental illness. A pathological level of nostalgia with a nice dash of sociopathy tossed in.


Which would be great for everyone. Getting rid of the nostalgia part might require a lobotomy, though. Then, conservatives would be like well-adjusted liberals.

/and done. Sorry everyone...  The comedy writers at CPAC obviously need me... ;-)
 
2014-03-07 08:09:54 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


THIS TIMES 1 MILLION
 
2014-03-07 08:10:02 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that

Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.


Did you know that 74.62% of statistics are made up on the spot?
 
2014-03-07 08:10:24 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that


/Rand Paul
 
2014-03-07 08:10:27 AM  

Ned Snark: Clear and Present Danger was just a story, but it still made you think about important things.


Why are Han Solo and Darth Vader in this movie?
 
2014-03-07 08:13:51 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


Who cares about changing the minds of conservatives? This is about getting moderates and liberals to care enough to out-vote the conservatives and boot Paul Ryan out of office.

/Of course, this is the area of the country that's elected Jesse Ventura, Michele Bachmann, and Al Franken to high office.  It's a little schizoid.
//Yes, Ventura and Bachmann were Minnesota, not Wisconsin. Same area of the country, though.
 
JW
2014-03-07 08:14:51 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that

Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.

Did you know that 74.62% of statistics are made up on the spot?


That's a common misbelief.  The number was revised down to 48.6% in a followup study.
 
2014-03-07 08:16:14 AM  

Ned Snark: What's the problem here?  Why does the story have to be technically true, when all that we should care about is the message it delivers.  One of the things that we learned from the Benghazi scandal is that if we allow the main stream media to control the narrative, and worry about what actually happened, is that we loose the real truth of the situation which is that this administration is ineffectual on foreign policy, as can be seen is the current Crimea situation, as well as domestic policy, as can be seen with the SNAP programs.

If the message is a good one, who cares if it is just a story.  Clear and Present Danger was just a story, but it still made you think about important things.


I'm assuming you're just trolling for comments, especially with a reference to BENGHAZI(!1).
 
2014-03-07 08:16:14 AM  

img.fark.net

 
2014-03-07 08:17:00 AM  
The horror a politician lied OMG
 
2014-03-07 08:20:18 AM  
"He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand."

He had something to eat because the left cared for him. The right would have him go hungry.
 
2014-03-07 08:21:28 AM  

praymantis: The horror a politician lied OMG


http://www.fark.com/comments/8099696/88715204#c88715204

praymantis 2014-1-14 04:26:27 PM

Why are you all being so mean to Christie it is not like he was the Sec of State and the Ambassador was killed under his watch in the non-scandal that is Benghazi or ordering the IRS to not give non-profit status to politically backed groups in the non-scandal 2013 IRS.
 
2014-03-07 08:23:00 AM  
I find this amusing as the father of three...

All on the lunch program, but sometimes they take their lunch...

IN THEIR LUNCH BOXES!!!!
Kids only use paper(or plastic bags) when on field trips,
 
2014-03-07 08:23:04 AM  

eclectikrelaxation.com


THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

 
2014-03-07 08:24:15 AM  

vernonFL: First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring? Abbie Hoffman? Angela Davis? "The Left" is just a boogeyman.


Don't forget Noam Chompsky and Saul Alinsky! HEROES of The Left, WORSHIPED by them. They carry around their books like the Sayings and Quotations of Mao. They have statues on every Liberal Arts campus and all of Obama's policies are made in honor of them. Thank Noam the Republicans aren't in power.
 
2014-03-07 08:25:34 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Their ideology requires mythology.


St. Reagan was the master of the apocryphal story. He tapped into fear, disgust, and hatred to put out just the right stories to get elected and Republicans have been trying to mimic it ever since.
 
2014-03-07 08:25:46 AM  

kronicfeld: praymantis: The horror a politician lied OMG

http://www.fark.com/comments/8099696/88715204#c88715204

praymantis 2014-1-14 04:26:27 PM

Why are you all being so mean to Christie it is not like he was the Sec of State and the Ambassador was killed under his watch in the non-scandal that is Benghazi or ordering the IRS to not give non-profit status to politically backed groups in the non-scandal 2013 IRS.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-07 08:26:03 AM  
What an absolutely worthless sack of crap this guy is.
 
2014-03-07 08:28:29 AM  
I had my 9 year old read that section of the actual CPAC speech, and asked him for his opinion. He said "I think it's sad that he needs to get that free lunch. But I think it's good that he can get it." He also expressed concern about why we didn't get a free lunch, to which I replied that we can afford to buy lunches but if we couldn't he would get a free lunch.

When I asked him about the brown bag part he didn't really understand that. I pointed out that he likes to me to pack his lunch and he said that was because I know what he likes and he usually doesn't like the stuff they serve at school. Which I take as meaning he doesn't really understand the idea that people might not care about him, and that's a good thing. 

/ from the mouths of babes
// my 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan
 
2014-03-07 08:30:57 AM  
A politician lied???
 
2014-03-07 08:33:51 AM  
Wait, a poor kid wishing his family wasn't working-poor is a reason to  not want school lunches now?  Because the reason the kid didn't have a bag lunch was lack of family money and free time...
 
2014-03-07 08:34:02 AM  

Zasteva: 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan


whynotboth.jpg
 
2014-03-07 08:34:18 AM  

Zasteva: I had my 9 year old read that section of the actual CPAC speech, and asked him for his opinion. He said "I think it's sad that he needs to get that free lunch. But I think it's good that he can get it." He also expressed concern about why we didn't get a free lunch, to which I replied that we can afford to buy lunches but if we couldn't he would get a free lunch.

When I asked him about the brown bag part he didn't really understand that. I pointed out that he likes to me to pack his lunch and he said that was because I know what he likes and he usually doesn't like the stuff they serve at school. Which I take as meaning he doesn't really understand the idea that people might not care about him, and that's a good thing. 

/ from the mouths of babes
// my 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan


Both, easily.
 
2014-03-07 08:34:30 AM  
I can see only two possible interpretations of Paul's story.

Either he things that 'stomachs full, soul empty' is bad and that free lunches should be repealed - leading to 'stomachs empty, but at least Republicans care about my soul', or he thinks that free lunches at schools should be handed out in brown paper bags.

And since we all know he would be against increasing school funding to pay for those bags, we're only left with option A as being what he really meant.
 
2014-03-07 08:34:32 AM  
Also, 9 year olds use brown paper lunch bags? Since when? The kids I see carry brightly colored lunch boxes, if they aren't getting a school hot lunch.

My nephew hasn't ever used a brown paper bag.
 
2014-03-07 08:36:11 AM  

Karac: I can see only two possible interpretations of Paul's story.

Either he things that 'stomachs full, soul empty' is bad and that free lunches should be repealed - leading to 'stomachs empty, but at least Republicans care about my soul', or he thinks that free lunches at schools should be handed out in brown paper bags.

And since we all know he would be against increasing school funding to pay for those bags, we're only left with option A as being what he really meant.


Could it be we've all misunderstood and he really just wants to use recyclable material to serve lunch in schools that may (for whatever reason) be using disposable trays?

Paul Ryan, Misunderstood Environmentalist?
 
2014-03-07 08:36:32 AM  
Replublicans prohibiting brown paper bags in lunch rooms "for safety's sake" and "for the children" in 3... 2... 1...
 
2014-03-07 08:37:17 AM  
The solution is clearly to give out free school lunches in brown paper bags.
 
2014-03-07 08:38:55 AM  

poot_rootbeer: I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.


The kids who get a subsidized lunch don't wear a big Scarlet letter or something identifying them as recipients.

Although my son doesn't receive them, I did volunteer as a parent counselor at his old elementary school to help ESL parents apply for subsidized school lunch program.  The school required that students buy lunch tickets paid for in advance on a weekly/monthly basis, whether subsidized or not.  The tickets were identical and no one would have had a clue whether the parent paid full price for that ticket, or the subsidized price.

In a different state and while reviewing the program here, it was nearly identical, except the school "lunch lady" keeps a computer "account" for each student rather than use the ticket system. But, once again there's no way for other students to identify those who are receiving a subsidized lunch or not.  In fact, the teachers and other administrators, outside of the woman who administers the cafeteria wouldn't have a clue either.

As to your last sentence, agree completely.  The last thing I want to see is more "Government by Anecdote" crap.   Reagan was the master of creating policy and procedures based on those kind of cheap anecdotes, often which were based no more on reality than this Ryan laugher.
 
2014-03-07 08:39:57 AM  

baka-san: I find this amusing as the father of three...

All on the lunch program, but sometimes they take their lunch...

IN THEIR LUNCH BOXES!!!!
Kids only use paper(or plastic bags) when on field trips,


No kidding.  A kid bringing in lunch in a brown paper bag would be ridiculed like that chick on Jersey Shore who used black plastic bags as improvised luggage.  Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?  Even grandmas have switched over to plastic bags at the grocery store.  It's just typical teatard nostalgia for the 1950s.  They probably think that 'working men' still carry a metal lunch bucket and a thermos full of coffee when they go to their factory jobs, where the steam whistle blows when it's quittin' time.
 
2014-03-07 08:41:20 AM  
If Mama Welfare had to pack a lunch she paid for instead of driving her BMW to the salon, why she would come to see the true spirit of capitalism. She would immediately get a good job, husband, and be self reliant within the year. That simple brown bag could transform thousands from welfare dependents to productive members of society.

And in the end, isn't that what America is truly about.
 
2014-03-07 08:41:39 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that

Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.

Did you know that 74.62% of statistics are made up on the spot?


40% of all people know that.
 
2014-03-07 08:42:07 AM  
Even if it was true it's a stupid story. I bet you could find a kid that thinks we should replace the school busses with dinosaurs. That doesn't mean we get rid of school busses, and replace them with....nothing.

But hey, think of the cost savings!
 
2014-03-07 08:45:58 AM  

Huggermugger: baka-san: I find this amusing as the father of three...

All on the lunch program, but sometimes they take their lunch...

IN THEIR LUNCH BOXES!!!!
Kids only use paper(or plastic bags) when on field trips,

No kidding.  A kid bringing in lunch in a brown paper bag would be ridiculed like that chick on Jersey Shore who used black plastic bags as improvised luggage.   Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?  Even grandmas have switched over to plastic bags at the grocery store.  It's just typical teatard nostalgia for the 1950s.  They probably think that 'working men' still carry a metal lunch bucket and a thermos full of coffee when they go to their factory jobs, where the steam whistle blows when it's quittin' time.


DIY microwave popcorn when I'm too lazy to make it on the stovetop.

http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/06/microwave-popcorn- mi nus-the-ripoff/
 
2014-03-07 08:46:31 AM  
 
2014-03-07 08:49:18 AM  

RminusQ: Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.


That should, however qualify every American for one (1) free cockpunch to Mr. Ryan.
 
2014-03-07 08:49:41 AM  
Can someone explain to me the perverse incentive school lunch programs provide parents to not love and care for their children? Is there a certain subset of parents who wouldn't be drug addicts, estranged, or abusive if their children were not guaranteed sustenance at school?

I'm sure there are plenty of people with debilitating diseases who would tell you they'd be happy to not take painkillers if it meant they could have the disease cured instead, but that doesn't mean the solution is to take away their painkillers.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:38 AM  

inglixthemad: HotWingConspiracy: Their ideology requires mythology.

St. Reagan was the master of the apocryphal story lie. He tapped into fear, disgust, and hatred to put out just the right stories to get elected and Republicans have been trying to mimic it ever since.


Call it what it is. A lie.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:55 AM  
"Please, sir, no more gruel."

img.fark.net

"And give the bowl to a job creator, while you're at it."
 
2014-03-07 08:51:57 AM  

vernonFL: First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring?


Everyone not a teabagger, including regular old Republicans (dirty liberal RINOs).
Oh, and reality.
 
2014-03-07 08:52:26 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.


Ryan's next speech will be about a young boy who lived in a rural town, learning from his blacksmith father the trade.  One day, tax collectors from the evil Left showed up and took all of the money from the townspeople, and took the young boy to work pushing a giant wheel to pay for his father's back taxes.  Eventually the boy grew big and strong, and after a few years in the gladiatorial games, he came upon an Atlantean tomb and found a sword.  He found the man who had taxed his town to death, and discovered the man had become a cult leader, Thulsa-Obama.

Hither came Conan Reagan the Republican.
 
2014-03-07 08:53:13 AM  

Karac: I can see only two possible interpretations of Paul's story.

Either he things that 'stomachs full, soul empty' is bad and that free lunches should be repealed - leading to 'stomachs empty, but at least Republicans care about my soul', or he thinks that free lunches at schools should be handed out in brown paper bags.

And since we all know he would be against increasing school funding to pay for those bags, we're only left with option A as being what he really meant.


It's that BS Puritan work ethic nonsense. Basically comes down to the virtue and dignity imparted by labor above all else. It's an industrial revolution idea in an internet world, which just about sums up the republican party.
 
2014-03-07 08:53:33 AM  

bikerbob59: A politician lied???


So vote Republican!
 
2014-03-07 08:54:19 AM  

poot_rootbeer: I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.


Bullies who pick on poor kids are scum.

I'm not one for corporal punishment, but it's not the teacher's fault if they had to step out of the room for just a minute and come back to find said bully laid the fark out on the floor with no one near him. I mean, he can say who he says did it, but can you really trust the words of a bully? Of course not.
 
2014-03-07 08:56:14 AM  
Paul Ryan is like a creature from greek mythology, half man half septic tank.
 
2014-03-07 08:57:39 AM  
Just another snake oil salesman raking cash from rubes.
 
2014-03-07 08:57:53 AM  
Brown bag lunch? Pffffft. It's all bento boxes now. I mean puleeze--if mommy isn't spending 3 hours every night creating a magical work of art out of onigiri and carrots, you know she actually wishes she had sold you to the circus.

Even their apocrypha is tired.
 
2014-03-07 08:59:47 AM  

Grungehamster: Can someone explain to me the perverse incentive school lunch programs provide parents to not love and care for their children? Is there a certain subset of parents who wouldn't be drug addicts, estranged, or abusive if their children were not guaranteed sustenance at school?

I'm sure there are plenty of people with debilitating diseases who would tell you they'd be happy to not take painkillers if it meant they could have the disease cured instead, but that doesn't mean the solution is to take away their painkillers.


To well-adjusted adults, this is obvious.  To the subset of the population whose marriage would be negatively impacted should two members of the same sex be allowed to wed, this is anything but obvious.

/sorry if the last sentence gave you cancer.
 
2014-03-07 09:01:31 AM  

Zasteva: I had my 9 year old read that section of the actual CPAC speech, and asked him for his opinion. He said "I think it's sad that he needs to get that free lunch. But I think it's good that he can get it." He also expressed concern about why we didn't get a free lunch, to which I replied that we can afford to buy lunches but if we couldn't he would get a free lunch.

When I asked him about the brown bag part he didn't really understand that. I pointed out that he likes to me to pack his lunch and he said that was because I know what he likes and he usually doesn't like the stuff they serve at school. Which I take as meaning he doesn't really understand the idea that people might not care about him, and that's a good thing. 

/ from the mouths of babes
// my 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan


"Kids say the stupidest things."
/Rand Paul
 
2014-03-07 09:01:54 AM  

born_yesterday: I'm seriously starting to believe conservatism is a form of mental illness. A pathological level of nostalgia with a nice dash of sociopathy tossed in.


Toured an assisted living facility the other day.  It was a pretty fancy one, and what was really striking was how the decor all hearkened back to the late 50's to early 70's.  They had photos of, say, Sammy Davis Jr. and Kennedy on the walls, old rotary phones in the halls, vintage editions of Life, etc.

I'd say conservatism is the assisted-living party that doesn't want to assist anyone to live.
 
2014-03-07 09:04:23 AM  

verbaltoxin: Just another snake oil salesman raking cash from rubes.


Like taking candy from a baby.
 
2014-03-07 09:09:53 AM  
Cabinets full of women.
 
2014-03-07 09:11:03 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.


But, remember the chick from Texas(Wendy Davis?) is "intentionally distorting her past" for sympathy, when she factors the date she left her husband in as when she "got" her divorce...
 
2014-03-07 09:11:29 AM  
I could have stopped you after a member of Walker's cabinet meeting a poor person.
 
2014-03-07 09:15:45 AM  

Skleenar: born_yesterday: I'm seriously starting to believe conservatism is a form of mental illness. A pathological level of nostalgia with a nice dash of sociopathy tossed in.

Toured an assisted living facility the other day.  It was a pretty fancy one, and what was really striking was how the decor all hearkened back to the late 50's to early 70's.  They had photos of, say, Sammy Davis Jr. and Kennedy on the walls, old rotary phones in the halls, vintage editions of Life, etc.

I'd say conservatism is the assisted-living party that doesn't want to assist anyone to live.


That's pretty much it in a nutshell. They believe if we just make a couple key changes, we can return America to some imagined glory days of the 50s and 60s.

To dare even suggest that the world is rapidly changing and we need to work to keep up is an unpatriotic insult to American exceptionalism.

I think this is one of the major reasons empires always fall. They become so mired in celebrating their past greatness that they are caught completely unaware when the world moves on.
 
2014-03-07 09:17:13 AM  

Mikey1969: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

But, remember the chick from Texas(Wendy Davis?) is "intentionally distorting her past" for sympathy, when she factors the date she left her husband in as when she "got" her divorce...


Especially since, IIRC, what she actually said was that's when she became a single parent.
 
2014-03-07 09:17:48 AM  
I can't believe a significant portion of my countrymen get jazzed up by the thought of hungry kids.  It's outrageous.
 
2014-03-07 09:18:50 AM  

Zasteva: my 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan


Either?
 
2014-03-07 09:20:20 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: I could have stopped you after a member of Walker's cabinet meeting a poor person.


Harkens back to Michelle Bachmann meeting a woman at a fair and discovering how she became retarded.
 
2014-03-07 09:21:40 AM  
Jesus these people are shameless.  Absolutely shameless.  Do you have to have such self-aggrandizing beliefs to rationalize blatant lies in an attempt to get your point across.  Once I heard someone say something like;

There are six things that the LORD strongly dislikes, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.
 
2014-03-07 09:21:42 AM  
He is saying that he wants parents to have the time and money to enable them to pack a lunch for their kids and the left is freak'n calling foul..... some kind of derangement syndrome.
 
2014-03-07 09:22:04 AM  

pueblonative: That should, however qualify every American for one (1) free cockpunch to Mr. Ryan.


FREE?! You farking socialists never give up, do you?
 
2014-03-07 09:24:06 AM  
As believable  as Paul Ryan washing dishes ?

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-07 09:24:14 AM  

Saiga410: He is saying that he wants parents to have the time and money to enable them to pack a lunch for their kids and the left is freak'n calling foul..... some kind of derangement syndrome.


You are not smart.
 
2014-03-07 09:24:56 AM  

Zasteva: Mikey1969: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

But, remember the chick from Texas(Wendy Davis?) is "intentionally distorting her past" for sympathy, when she factors the date she left her husband in as when she "got" her divorce...

Especially since, IIRC, what she actually said was that's when she became a single parent.


Yeah, they farked the hell out of what she said vs what they wanted her to have said, and then just kept beating that dead horse when her 'corrections' pretty much proved that she'd represented it right the first time around. I mean they're right past PETA territory and into Health Department territory with this dead horse abuse on that one...
 
2014-03-07 09:25:07 AM  
I dunno man, brown paper bags are pretty filling. Good for you too, lots of fiber. Smear some ketchup on there so they have a vegetable and let em go to town.
 
2014-03-07 09:26:36 AM  

Saiga410: He is saying that he wants parents to have the time and money to enable them to pack a lunch for their kids and the left is freak'n calling foul..... some kind of derangement syndrome.


No. What he's saying is that if we end the free lunch program, jobs will magically be createdthose lazy good-for-nothing parents will get a job.
 
2014-03-07 09:28:29 AM  

Xythero: I can't believe a significant portion of my countrymen get jazzed up by the thought of hungry kids.  It's outrageous.


You see, the thought process is that they, like everyone else, would not want to see any kids go hungry. Even those kids parents. And, by removing the subsidized school lunches (and thereby providing the means to cut taxes for job creators), the parents of the kids who used to get subsidized school lunches would suddenly say to themselves "I cannot let my child go hungry, I will lift myself up by my bootstraps and provide for my child in a way that I refused to previously because of the subsidized school lunch program! Praise Reagan!". Because as any real American knows, the only reason that anyone doesn't provide their own lunches for their school age children is because of the availability of subsidized school lunch programs. As soon as people find out about them, they make sure they earn so little income as to become eligible for those programs, because, who the hell wouldn't want to be so farking dirt poor as to be eligible for those government handouts? That's why the whole farking country is on them... well, all the stoopid libs anyway.
 
2014-03-07 09:28:44 AM  

kronicfeld: You are not smart.


You expected more from a guy who rubs one out fantasizing about a Russian assault-style shotgun?
 
2014-03-07 09:30:13 AM  

Saiga410: He is saying that he wants parents to have the time and money to enable them to pack a lunch for their kids and the left is freak'n calling foul..... some kind of derangement syndrome.


He's saying that he thinks cutting school lunch programs is a means to that end. That's farked up.

Derangement syndrome indeed.
 
2014-03-07 09:37:24 AM  
Of course the flipside to this is that a lot of kids brown bag their lunch because school lunches in today's America are a disgrace.
 
2014-03-07 09:38:28 AM  

Tomahawk513: Grungehamster: Can someone explain to me the perverse incentive school lunch programs provide parents to not love and care for their children? Is there a certain subset of parents who wouldn't be drug addicts, estranged, or abusive if their children were not guaranteed sustenance at school?

I'm sure there are plenty of people with debilitating diseases who would tell you they'd be happy to not take painkillers if it meant they could have the disease cured instead, but that doesn't mean the solution is to take away their painkillers.

To well-adjusted adults, this is obvious.  To the subset of the population whose marriage would be negatively impacted should two members of the same sex be allowed to wed, this is anything but obvious.

/sorry if the last sentence gave you cancer.


The thing is I can ALMOST see a point to the story absent any potential policy prescriptions. You should treat the disease not the symptoms: in the original story that is being misappropriated the kid has a drug addicted mother in jail. The kid not having food was partially a result of him not having a functional family; if he had one chances are he wouldn't need as much assistance as he does.

...the problem arises when you realize that while they're strongly related these are two different disorders. Plenty of working poor families who need a little extra help to make ends meet but have strong bonds and plenty of rich families with severe dysfunction behind the scenes. You could rewrite that entire scene but have the kid bring in an expensive pre-packaged lunch but immediately trade it for a ham sandwich and an apple in a sack because they appreciate that it was made with love.
 
2014-03-07 09:39:17 AM  

sdd2000: As believable  as Paul Ryan washing dishes ?

[img.fark.net image 550x330]


You don't expect him to clean the dirty dishes the disgusting poors were actually in contact with do you?
 
2014-03-07 09:39:48 AM  

lawboy87: poot_rootbeer: I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.

The kids who get a subsidized lunch don't wear a big Scarlet letter or something identifying them as recipients.

Although my son doesn't receive them, I did volunteer as a parent counselor at his old elementary school to help ESL parents apply for subsidized school lunch program.  The school required that students buy lunch tickets paid for in advance on a weekly/monthly basis, whether subsidized or not.  The tickets were identical and no one would have had a clue whether the parent paid full price for that ticket, or the subsidized price.

In a different state and while reviewing the program here, it was nearly identical, except the school "lunch lady" keeps a computer "account" for each student rather than use the ticket system. But, once again there's no way for other students to identify those who are receiving a subsidized lunch or not.  In fact, the teachers and other administrators, outside of the woman who administers the cafeteria wouldn't have a clue either.

As to your last sentence, agree completely.  The last thing I want to see is more "Government by Anecdote" crap.   Reagan was the master of creating policy and procedures based on those kind of cheap anecdotes, often which were based no more on reality than this Ryan laugher.


I think your experience is the exception, not the rule, when it comes to free lunch programs.
 
2014-03-07 09:42:25 AM  
If that kid really wanted a full stomach and a full soul he could have just eaten his bootstraps.
 
2014-03-07 09:43:44 AM  

karmaceutical: lawboy87: poot_rootbeer: I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.

The kids who get a subsidized lunch don't wear a big Scarlet letter or something identifying them as recipients.

Although my son doesn't receive them, I did volunteer as a parent counselor at his old elementary school to help ESL parents apply for subsidized school lunch program.  The school required that students buy lunch tickets paid for in advance on a weekly/monthly basis, whether subsidized or not.  The tickets were identical and no one would have had a clue whether the parent paid full price for that ticket, or the subsidized price.

In a different state and while reviewing the program here, it was nearly identical, except the school "lunch lady" keeps a computer "account" for each student rather than use the ticket system. But, once again there's no way for other students to identify those who are receiving a subsidized lunch or not.  In fact, the teachers and other administrators, outside of the woman who administers the cafeteria wouldn't have a clue either.

As to your last sentence, agree completely.  The last thing I want to see is more "Government by Anecdote" crap.   Reagan was the master of creating policy and procedures based on those kind of cheap anecdotes, often which were based no more on reality than this Ryan laugher.

I think your experience is the exception, not the rule, when it comes to free lunch programs.


It was the exact same way back when I was in school 15 years ago. All lunch credit was on a card, no one knew who had "free lunch" and who didn't from sight alone.
 
2014-03-07 09:43:56 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


The truth comes from the heart, not reality.
 
2014-03-07 09:46:24 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Saiga410: He is saying that he wants parents to have the time and money to enable them to pack a lunch for their kids and the left is freak'n calling foul..... some kind of derangement syndrome.

No. What he's saying is that if we end the free lunch program, jobs will magically be createdthose lazy good-for-nothing parents will get a job.


If you make things more miserable for the poor then they won't want to be poor anymore. Duh!
 
2014-03-07 09:47:39 AM  

karmaceutical: I think your experience is the exception, not the rule, when it comes to free lunch programs.


I recall the same thing (well, similar) when I was in elementary school, lo those 3+ decades ago. If you were buying lunch that day, you had to go to the cafeteria before school and buy a chit. Your parents could also purchase a "subscription", and would be mailed a month's worth of chits at a time. The poor kids and the subscription kids were indistinguishable, as the poor kids parents were also mailed a month's worth of chits.

You turned said chit in at lunch and received lunch - there was only one option available.
 
2014-03-07 09:47:43 AM  
Has any Republican, starting with St. Ronald, EVER told a story about a poor person that wasn't utter bullshiat?
 
2014-03-07 09:49:29 AM  

Saiga410: He is saying that he wants parents to have the time and money to enable them to pack a lunch for their kids and the left is freak'n calling foul..... some kind of derangement syndrome.


So where's the Ryan Protecting American Parents Act that would raise the minimum wage to $20/hour while granting six weeks of paid leave so that families can live off one wage earner while the other can stay home and fix lunches?
 
2014-03-07 09:49:53 AM  

Xythero: I can't believe a significant portion of my countrymen get jazzed up by the thought of hungry kids.  It's outrageous.


Don't forget cheering for gay servicemen to die rather than get health insurance.  Standing farking ovation.
 
2014-03-07 09:50:14 AM  

Skleenar: Toured an assisted living facility the other day.  It was a pretty fancy one, and what was really striking was how the decor all hearkened back to the late 50's to early 70's.  They had photos of, say, Sammy Davis Jr. and Kennedy on the walls, old rotary phones in the halls, vintage editions of Life, etc.


I'm pretty sure you stumbled upon an "old hipsters' home," and all of that stuff was supposed to be ironically retro.
 
2014-03-07 09:50:56 AM  

lilbjorn: Has any Republican, starting with St. Ronald, EVER told a story about a poor person that wasn't utter bullshiat?


In public? Heavens no!

At the club? Sure. "And then this urchin had the audacity to ask me for a dollar! Me! A dollar!? I told him to just put his 'lunch' - we all know he was just going to buy crack - on his Amex, or lie and expense it."
 
2014-03-07 09:51:11 AM  
If those children deserve to eat, then they will do so despite the lack of subsidies. They will learn to forage and dumpster-dive, eating the leftovers of those with too much to eat. How is that not a much more efficient and - attention, leftist hippies and eco-terrorists - environmentally friendly solution?
 
2014-03-07 09:51:36 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: karmaceutical: I think your experience is the exception, not the rule, when it comes to free lunch programs.

I recall the same thing (well, similar) when I was in elementary school, lo those 3+ decades ago. If you were buying lunch that day, you had to go to the cafeteria before school and buy a chit. Your parents could also purchase a "subscription", and would be mailed a month's worth of chits at a time. The poor kids and the subscription kids were indistinguishable, as the poor kids parents were also mailed a month's worth of chits.

You turned said chit in at lunch and received lunch - there was only one option available.


My school, around the same time, required that every kid in class stand up for roll call, and when you name was called you had to announce "brought" "paid" or "free" and the teacher would put a little check on the list for your lunch option that day.

But really what is an anecdote on Fark worth these days?
 
2014-03-07 09:52:12 AM  
Why can't these "starving" children just sell some of their stock? If they're not willing to do that, then you can't tell me that they're really suffering.
 
2014-03-07 09:52:43 AM  

lilbjorn: Has any Republican, starting with St. Ronald, EVER told a story about a poor person that wasn't utter bullshiat?


Dwight Eisenhower, Robert La Follette, and then I draw a blank.
 
2014-03-07 09:53:14 AM  

KeatingFive: Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.

THIS TIMES 1 MILLION


Facts don't need to change the minds of conservatives.  They just need to sway the "middle" 10% or so of voters who are "undecided" and on whom the outcome of elections actually lies.
 
2014-03-07 09:53:38 AM  

karmaceutical: But really what is an anecdote on Fark worth these days?


Well, today's Friday, so fiesta pizza, cheeseburger with fries, or a chef salad plate with pan roll.
 
2014-03-07 09:53:57 AM  

monoski: Harkens back to Michelle Bachmann meeting a woman at a fair and discovering how she became retarded


How did Michelle become retarded?
 
2014-03-07 09:54:16 AM  
Great line to use for a pro-choice ad.

Seriously. If women are denied abortions children who are not cared for are going to be born ... In abundance.
 
2014-03-07 09:56:09 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: karmaceutical: But really what is an anecdote on Fark worth these days?

Well, today's Friday, so fiesta pizza, cheeseburger with fries, or a chef salad plate with pan roll.


Fiesta pizza, white milk, and a fruit cup?  I'm in.
 
2014-03-07 09:57:07 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: KeatingFive: Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.

THIS TIMES 1 MILLION

Facts don't need to change the minds of conservatives.  They just need to sway the "middle" 10% or so of voters who are "undecided" and on whom the outcome of elections actually lies.


You'd think they'd close off CPAC to the press. This place is a gold mine for negative campaign ad quotes.
 
2014-03-07 09:59:06 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: karmaceutical: But really what is an anecdote on Fark worth these days?

Well, today's Friday, so fiesta pizza, cheeseburger with fries, or a chef salad plate with pan roll.


Hooray for Pizza Day! The best day of the week!
 
2014-03-07 10:00:06 AM  
It doesn't matter a bit, to anyone, how many lies they tell... or even how preposterous their lies are, for that matter.

No one looks to Republicans for facts. They are not in the "truth" business. They are in the business of dispensing bullshiat that feels truthy, to people who WANT bullshiat that feels truthy.

Period. End of sentence, end of paragraph.
 
2014-03-07 10:01:11 AM  

The Homer Tax: karmaceutical: lawboy87: poot_rootbeer: I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.

The kids who get a subsidized lunch don't wear a big Scarlet letter or something identifying them as recipients.

Although my son doesn't receive them, I did volunteer as a parent counselor at his old elementary school to help ESL parents apply for subsidized school lunch program.  The school required that students buy lunch tickets paid for in advance on a weekly/monthly basis, whether subsidized or not.  The tickets were identical and no one would have had a clue whether the parent paid full price for that ticket, or the subsidized price.

In a different state and while reviewing the program here, it was nearly identical, except the school "lunch lady" keeps a computer "account" for each student rather than use the ticket system. But, once again there's no way for other students to identify those who are receiving a subsidized lunch or not.  In fact, the teachers and other administrators, outside of the woman who administers the cafeteria wouldn't have a clue either.

As to your last sentence, agree completely.  The last thing I want to see is more "Government by Anecdote" crap.   Reagan was the master of creating policy and procedures based on those kind of cheap anecdotes, often which were based no more on reality than this Ryan laugher.

I think your experience is the exception, not the rule, when it comes to free lunch programs.

It was the exact same way back when I was in school 15 years ago. All lunch credit was on a card, no one knew who had "free lunch" and who didn't from sight alone.


It doesn't need to be publicly known for a kid to be embarrassed by it. I think that might be the point the initial post was about.
 
2014-03-07 10:01:25 AM  
Speaking of anecdotes, when I started high school, lunches were $0.90. Were one so inclined, one could stand at the exit line and ask for their "dime" as folks were heading to their tables. After hearing, "Sure," nine times, one could then purchase a lunch. My Junior year, lunches were a dollar...and I ate less.
 
2014-03-07 10:03:28 AM  

Nature Spirals: It doesn't need to be publicly known for a kid to be embarrassed by it. I think that might be the point the initial post was about.


A child's embarrassment doesn't make the factory re-open. I think that might be the point most of the posts since were about.
 
Bf+
2014-03-07 10:03:41 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: I could have stopped you after a member of Walker's cabinet meeting a poor person.


I dunno about that...
There are lots of poor people in prison.
 
2014-03-07 10:07:33 AM  

Fart_Machine: You'd think they'd close off CPAC to the press. This place is a gold mine for negative campaign ad quotes.


You're right of course.  But the GOP hasn't been good at campaign strategy for a while.  I think they've eaten too much of their own dog food, so they actually believe the Fox News derp that the majority of Americans agree with them.  They think that CPAC is a gold mine of  positive campaign ad quotes.

/or at least, that's the only way any of this makes any sense at all
 
2014-03-07 10:12:00 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Fart_Machine: You'd think they'd close off CPAC to the press. This place is a gold mine for negative campaign ad quotes.

You're right of course.  But the GOP hasn't been good at campaign strategy for a while.  I think they've eaten too much of their own dog food, so they actually believe the Fox News derp that the majority of Americans agree with them.  They think that CPAC is a gold mine of  positive campaign ad quotes.

/or at least, that's the only way any of this makes any sense at all


I was going to make a similar comment.  Romney's campaign was a pathetic, pandering, unfocused mess.  Since it's pretty well known that no one else in the Republican party likes him, combined with his ego (and being an asshole), I could understand why he couldn't get good staff.

I think the rest of these guys, running for state or federal congress, are still achieving a modicum of success at holding their seats by employing the Karl Rove strategy.  I hope this changes in the 2014 elections.  It would be nice if moderates or *ahem* "low-information voters" could be motivated to vote for more moderate candidates.
 
2014-03-07 10:12:29 AM  

Mr_Fabulous: It doesn't matter a bit, to anyone, how many lies they tell... or even how preposterous their lies are, for that matter.

No one looks to Republicans for facts. They are not in the "truth" business. They are in the business of dispensing bullshiat that feels truthy, to people who WANT bullshiat that feels truthy.

Period. End of sentence, end of paragraph.


True true true.  People (conservatives, mostly) want to hear things that reinforce their beliefs.  They don't believe in free lunch, because poor people are lazy and don't care about their kids.  If they cared about their kids, then they would be in functional marriages and move out to the suburbs with the other morally superior folks hang out.  What I don't about this particular story is... are they suggesting that the Federal Government take on some kind of responsibility for people's sense or worth?  This anecdote suggests that the kid doesn't want just a meal, he wants someone to care about him.  And that is what "the left" doesn't get.  Well jack, I do get it.  I just don't get what the free lunch program is supposed to do about it.  Or is this another of those cases where they try to take a simple problem and tie into a gordian knot with some complex society problem and call the whole thing off because you can't fix people's souls with taxes?
 
2014-03-07 10:15:58 AM  

Huggermugger: Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?


I do.

/Not in public school.
 
2014-03-07 10:17:47 AM  

karmaceutical: Mr_Fabulous: It doesn't matter a bit, to anyone, how many lies they tell... or even how preposterous their lies are, for that matter.

No one looks to Republicans for facts. They are not in the "truth" business. They are in the business of dispensing bullshiat that feels truthy, to people who WANT bullshiat that feels truthy.

Period. End of sentence, end of paragraph.

True true true.  People (conservatives, mostly) want to hear things that reinforce their beliefs.  They don't believe in free lunch, because poor people are lazy and don't care about their kids.  If they cared about their kids, then they would be in functional marriages and move out to the suburbs with the other morally superior folks hang out.  What I don't about this particular story is... are they suggesting that the Federal Government take on some kind of responsibility for people's sense or worth?  This anecdote suggests that the kid doesn't want just a meal, he wants someone to care about him.  And that is what "the left" doesn't get.  Well jack, I do get it.  I just don't get what the free lunch program is supposed to do about it.  Or is this another of those cases where they try to take a simple problem and tie into a gordian knot with some complex society problem and call the whole thing off because you can't fix people's souls with taxes?


I think they're saying that poor parents who have their kids get free lunches don't really care about their kids. If poor parents really cared about their kids they wouldn't let them get free lunches. They would send them to school with 3 saltines in a brown paper bag.
 
2014-03-07 10:18:59 AM  

Dimensio: Huggermugger: Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?

I do.

/Not in public school.


They're good for storing mushrooms in the fridge. They're porous enough to keep the shrooms from getting slimy, but protective enough to keep them from drying out.
 
2014-03-07 10:22:33 AM  

someonelse: Dimensio: Huggermugger: Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?

I do.

/Not in public school.

They're good for storing mushrooms in the fridge. They're porous enough to keep the shrooms from getting slimy, but protective enough to keep them from drying out.


Just put a crumpled paper towel in the mushroom container with the plastic wrap re-sealed. Duh.
 
2014-03-07 10:24:25 AM  
Amusing.
GOP tells lies: "All politicians lie, whadda ya gonna do."
Obama says "act of terror" not "terrorist act": "ZOMG IMPEACH!!"
 
2014-03-07 10:25:07 AM  

kronicfeld: someonelse: Dimensio: Huggermugger: Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?

I do.

/Not in public school.

They're good for storing mushrooms in the fridge. They're porous enough to keep the shrooms from getting slimy, but protective enough to keep them from drying out.

Just put a crumpled paper towel in the mushroom container with the plastic wrap re-sealed. Duh.


Thanks for the apocryphal stories.  I just contacted Paul Ryan saying poor kids just want the brown paper bags for selling drugs in schools while their parents wait outside in Cadillacs.  Goodbye lunch programs!
 
2014-03-07 10:28:46 AM  

someonelse: I think they're saying that poor parents who have their kids get free lunches don't really care about their kids. If poor parents really cared about their kids they wouldn't let them get free lunches. They would send them to school with 3 saltines in a brown paper bag.


Absotively. My dad did reduced fee lunches for us one year, and none of my classmates knew about it. My school had pretty good lunches. Then he went all John Galt and told my mom she needed to make brown bag lunches for us. Warm salami on stale bread. Yum.
 
2014-03-07 10:29:17 AM  
Mark 6: 30-44

30And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told Him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.
31And He said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat.
32And they departed into a desert place by a donated corporate ship privately.
33And the people saw them departing, and many knew Him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto Him.
34And Jesus, when He came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and He began to teach them many things.
35And when the day was now far spent, His disciples came unto Him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:
36Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.
37He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
38He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
39And He commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
40And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
41And when He had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, He looked up to Heaven, and blessed and brake the loaves, and gave them to His disciples to share amongst themselves, and with those job creators and persons and entities who had given the greatest financial support to His PAC. And the two fishes divided He among the same.
42And they did all eat, and were filled. And lo, the leavings and less desirable parts and fragments accidentally spat from the mouths of the job creators while they supped did trickle down upon the earth far and wide.
43And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes, which then were given unto the masses only after their betters were satiated.  For it was right and proper that their souls should be filled before their stomachs.
44And they that did eat of the loaves and fishes were about five thousand men; and besides which were a greater untold multitude of women and children, but they were bidden to go f*ck themselves.
 
2014-03-07 10:32:25 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Mark 6: 30-44

30And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told Him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.
31And He said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat.
32And they departed into a desert place by a donated corporate ship privately.
33And the people saw them departing, and many knew Him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto Him.
34And Jesus, when He came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and He began to teach them many things.
35And when the day was now far spent, His disciples came unto Him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:
36Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.
37He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
38He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
39And He commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
40And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
41And when He had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, He looked up to Heaven, and blessed and brake the loaves, and gave them to His disciples to share amongst themselves, and with those job creators and persons and entities who had given the greatest financial support to His PAC. And the two fishes divided He among the same.
42And they did all eat, and were filled. And lo, the leavings and less desirable parts and fragments accidentally spat from the mouths of the job creators while they supped did trickle down upon the earth far and wide.
43And they took up twelve baskets full of t ...



You assume conservatives know what this is from.
 
2014-03-07 10:34:20 AM  

Dr. Whoof: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Ryan's next speech will be about a young boy who lived in a rural town, learning from his blacksmith father the trade.  One day, tax collectors from the evil Left showed up and took all of the money from the townspeople, and took the young boy to work pushing a giant wheel to pay for his father's back taxes.  Eventually the boy grew big and strong, and after a few years in the gladiatorial games, he came upon an Atlantean tomb and found a sword.  He found the man who had taxed his town to death, and discovered the man had become a cult leader, Thulsa-Obama.

Hither came Conan Reagan the Republican.


www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2014-03-07 10:49:09 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.


GOP as LARPers would make an awesome photoshop project.

Sir Rand Paul of Galt is a level 9 paladin of Objectivism.

And so forth.
 
2014-03-07 10:50:08 AM  

born_yesterday: Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.

I'm seriously starting to believe conservatism is a form of mental illness.  A pathological level of nostalgia with a nice dash of sociopathy tossed in.


I was informed last night that Great Britain isn't really friendly with us because some of them complained about our troops during WWII.
 
2014-03-07 10:53:19 AM  

Ambivalence: GOP as LARPers would make an awesome photoshop project.

Sir Rand Paul of Galt is a level 9 paladin of Objectivism.


And Sir Bernie Sanders could be Marx as a level 9 Cleric of The People... :-)

We have this right now, except everyone takes themselves a lot more seriously and doesn't wear costumes. But, for what it's worth, I think your idea is better...
 
2014-03-07 11:00:31 AM  
Sock Puppet Paul Ryan's hand: Please sir, do not help us. We really just want to be shat on socially and economically so your glorious job creators can obtain another yacht.

Paul Ryan: There you have it, the poors don't want any help.
 
Bf+
2014-03-07 11:36:59 AM  

someonelse: Dimensio: Huggermugger: Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?

I do.

/Not in public school.

They're good for storing mushrooms in the fridge. They're porous enough to keep the shrooms from getting slimy, but protective enough to keep them from drying out.



Also terrific for peeling roasted peppers.
When at a grocery store, look for the checkout with really old guy bagging, and ask for paper.
Boom-- everything fits into one bag.
 
2014-03-07 12:22:45 PM  

KeatingFive: inglixthemad: HotWingConspiracy: Their ideology requires mythology.

St. Reagan was the master of the apocryphal story lie. He tapped into fear, disgust, and hatred to put out just the right stories to get elected and Republicans have been trying to mimic it ever since.

Call it what it is. A lie.


Apocryphal (of a story or statement) of doubtful authenticity, although widely circulated as being true

Oh, you have to take the time to disprove it first. That's the beauty of how they do it: they put in just enough facts to make it sound plausible, but leave out enough details that it's almost impossible to check. Reagan was a master of, and loved, apocryphal stories because they were just that: a biatch to disprove. Dick Armey tried it with 'Charlie' the Janitor who got fired from his University job over a minimum wage increase. That lie was easy to catch, because the Uni paid it's Janitors more than the minimum wage.

That's the hard part for Republicans today. The Intarwebs makes it easier to fact check the Apocryphal stories they use and either prove / disprove them.
 
2014-03-07 12:29:50 PM  

vernonFL: First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring? Abbie Hoffman? Angela Davis? "The Left" is just a boogeyman.


"The Left" is a term used to describe anyone more lenient than Darkseid.
 
2014-03-07 01:09:43 PM  

TV's Vinnie: vernonFL: First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring? Abbie Hoffman? Angela Davis? "The Left" is just a boogeyman.

"The Left" is a term used to describe anyone more lenient than Darkseid.


"Darkseid"?  Better check his birth certificate...
 
2014-03-07 01:19:15 PM  

SixPaperJoint: Dr. Whoof: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Ryan's next speech will be about a young boy who lived in a rural town, learning from his blacksmith father the trade.  One day, tax collectors from the evil Left showed up and took all of the money from the townspeople, and took the young boy to work pushing a giant wheel to pay for his father's back taxes.  Eventually the boy grew big and strong, and after a few years in the gladiatorial games, he came upon an Atlantean tomb and found a sword.  He found the man who had taxed his town to death, and discovered the man had become a cult leader, Thulsa-Obama.

Hither came Conan Reagan the Republican.

[www.godlikeproductions.com image 300x300]


"We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?"
"Deregulation, low taxes, lobbyists writing legislation, and Fox News on the air."
"Wrong! Reagan! What is best in life?"
"To crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their feminazis and anchor babies!"

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-07 01:36:51 PM  

Parthenogenetic: "We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?"
"Deregulation, low taxes, lobbyists writing legislation, and Fox News on the air."
"Wrong! Reagan! What is best in life?"
"To crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their feminazis and anchor babies!"


I remember that movie... It was the one where Tip O'Neill turned from a snake into the Speaker of the House. Classic.
 
2014-03-07 02:15:07 PM  

born_yesterday: TV's Vinnie: vernonFL: First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring? Abbie Hoffman? Angela Davis? "The Left" is just a boogeyman.

"The Left" is a term used to describe anyone more lenient than Darkseid.

"Darkseid"?  Better check his birth certificate...


Someone was sent to do that, but he hasn't come back from the Omega Zone yet.
 
2014-03-07 02:34:38 PM  

Mikey1969: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

But, remember the chick from Texas(Wendy Davis?) is "intentionally distorting her past" for sympathy, when she factors the date she left her husband in as when she "got" her divorce...



But, but, but... Wendy Davis...
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-07 02:35:56 PM  

kronicfeld: praymantis: The horror a politician lied OMG

http://www.fark.com/comments/8099696/88715204#c88715204

praymantis 2014-1-14 04:26:27 PM

Why are you all being so mean to Christie it is not like he was the Sec of State and the Ambassador was killed under his watch in the non-scandal that is Benghazi or ordering the IRS to not give non-profit status to politically backed groups in the non-scandal 2013 IRS.


What does that have to do with this pretend outrage that Ryan told a BS story, Democrats never tell BS stories?
 
2014-03-07 02:52:16 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

But, remember the chick from Texas(Wendy Davis?) is "intentionally distorting her past" for sympathy, when she factors the date she left her husband in as when she "got" her divorce...


But, but, but... Wendy Davis...
[img.fark.net image 239x252]


That video is one of the best things to EVER happen to the internet.
 
2014-03-08 02:44:49 AM  

machoprogrammer: RminusQ: Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.

Hey now, Jesus was totally against helping the unfortunate.


no No NO, you got it all wrong, these people aren't unfortunate, they're LAZY farkING MOOCHERS WHARRRRGRRRBLE
 
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