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(Washington Post)   That story Paul Ryan told about the woman in Scott Walker's cabinet who met a young poor boy who didn't want a free lunch, just a brown paper bag like all the other kids? Yeah, full of shiat. But he told it well, so there's that   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 145
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2014-03-07 06:55:00 AM  
First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring? Abbie Hoffman? Angela Davis? "The Left" is just a boogeyman.
 
2014-03-07 07:06:52 AM  
Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.
 
2014-03-07 07:53:28 AM  
And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.
 
2014-03-07 07:54:10 AM  
Kid supposedly wanted a different kind of lunch, so NO LUNCH FOR YOU!!

Even if true, it made no sense.
 
2014-03-07 07:54:34 AM  

RminusQ: Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.


Hey now, Jesus was totally against helping the unfortunate.
 
2014-03-07 07:55:33 AM  
Their ideology requires mythology.
 
2014-03-07 07:55:51 AM  
#woah #wow

makes u think
 
2014-03-07 08:00:04 AM  
Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.
 
2014-03-07 08:01:11 AM  
GOP lying to criticize programs for poor kids?  Unpossible!!  Kids are bootstrappy.  Everyone knows this.  With their wisdom we can understand that we need to vote republican, cut taxes, and fix all of our problems.  I guess I repeated myself there.  After that, we can turn our attention to the real problems - expressing our religious freedoms to turn the gays strait.

Study it out people.
 
2014-03-07 08:01:17 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


I'm seriously starting to believe conservatism is a form of mental illness.  A pathological level of nostalgia with a nice dash of sociopathy tossed in.
 
2014-03-07 08:01:23 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.


Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that
 
2014-03-07 08:02:35 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that


Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.
 
2014-03-07 08:03:30 AM  
What's the problem here?  Why does the story have to be technically true, when all that we should care about is the message it delivers.  One of the things that we learned from the Benghazi scandal is that if we allow the main stream media to control the narrative, and worry about what actually happened, is that we loose the real truth of the situation which is that this administration is ineffectual on foreign policy, as can be seen is the current Crimea situation, as well as domestic policy, as can be seen with the SNAP programs.

If the message is a good one, who cares if it is just a story.  Clear and Present Danger was just a story, but it still made you think about important things.
 
2014-03-07 08:05:38 AM  
Oh yea I remember that kid. He was named Lemonjello. He just wanted a brown paper bag like his older brother Oranjello. A brown paper bag he got from Taco Bell filled with food and paid for with a 2 dollar bill that he EARNED.
 
2014-03-07 08:05:47 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.


WELL, IT'S BETTER THAN OBONGO DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY WITH DEBT AND SOSHALIZM!!!!!

Would still love to hear a single viable proposal from those asshats.
 
2014-03-07 08:05:49 AM  
posed to be pickle in mah lunch wwwhhaarr pickel?
 
2014-03-07 08:09:30 AM  
I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.
 
2014-03-07 08:09:44 AM  

RminusQ: Paul Ryan literally said that the "Left" wants to give kids a full stomach and an empty soul. He said it derisively, meaning Republicans want to give kids an empty stomach and a full soul. That in its-farking-self should disqualify him from a place in public society, let alone public office.


Yes, lets pick it apart. Perhaps Jeremiah Wright could give us a hand with this embarrassing moment.

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


Facts like...?

born_yesterday: I'm seriously starting to believe conservatism is a form of mental illness. A pathological level of nostalgia with a nice dash of sociopathy tossed in.


Which would be great for everyone. Getting rid of the nostalgia part might require a lobotomy, though. Then, conservatives would be like well-adjusted liberals.

/and done. Sorry everyone...  The comedy writers at CPAC obviously need me... ;-)
 
2014-03-07 08:09:54 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


THIS TIMES 1 MILLION
 
2014-03-07 08:10:02 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that

Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.


Did you know that 74.62% of statistics are made up on the spot?
 
2014-03-07 08:10:24 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that


/Rand Paul
 
2014-03-07 08:10:27 AM  

Ned Snark: Clear and Present Danger was just a story, but it still made you think about important things.


Why are Han Solo and Darth Vader in this movie?
 
2014-03-07 08:13:51 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: And for some reason you guys keep believing that facts will suddenly change the mind of conservatives.


Who cares about changing the minds of conservatives? This is about getting moderates and liberals to care enough to out-vote the conservatives and boot Paul Ryan out of office.

/Of course, this is the area of the country that's elected Jesse Ventura, Michele Bachmann, and Al Franken to high office.  It's a little schizoid.
//Yes, Ventura and Bachmann were Minnesota, not Wisconsin. Same area of the country, though.
 
JW
2014-03-07 08:14:51 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that

Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.

Did you know that 74.62% of statistics are made up on the spot?


That's a common misbelief.  The number was revised down to 48.6% in a followup study.
 
2014-03-07 08:16:14 AM  

Ned Snark: What's the problem here?  Why does the story have to be technically true, when all that we should care about is the message it delivers.  One of the things that we learned from the Benghazi scandal is that if we allow the main stream media to control the narrative, and worry about what actually happened, is that we loose the real truth of the situation which is that this administration is ineffectual on foreign policy, as can be seen is the current Crimea situation, as well as domestic policy, as can be seen with the SNAP programs.

If the message is a good one, who cares if it is just a story.  Clear and Present Danger was just a story, but it still made you think about important things.


I'm assuming you're just trolling for comments, especially with a reference to BENGHAZI(!1).
 
2014-03-07 08:16:14 AM  

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2014-03-07 08:17:00 AM  
The horror a politician lied OMG
 
2014-03-07 08:20:18 AM  
"He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand."

He had something to eat because the left cared for him. The right would have him go hungry.
 
2014-03-07 08:21:28 AM  

praymantis: The horror a politician lied OMG


http://www.fark.com/comments/8099696/88715204#c88715204

praymantis 2014-1-14 04:26:27 PM

Why are you all being so mean to Christie it is not like he was the Sec of State and the Ambassador was killed under his watch in the non-scandal that is Benghazi or ordering the IRS to not give non-profit status to politically backed groups in the non-scandal 2013 IRS.
 
2014-03-07 08:23:00 AM  
I find this amusing as the father of three...

All on the lunch program, but sometimes they take their lunch...

IN THEIR LUNCH BOXES!!!!
Kids only use paper(or plastic bags) when on field trips,
 
2014-03-07 08:23:04 AM  

eclectikrelaxation.com


THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

 
2014-03-07 08:24:15 AM  

vernonFL: First of all, there really is no such thing as "The Left" anymore. To whom is he referring? Abbie Hoffman? Angela Davis? "The Left" is just a boogeyman.


Don't forget Noam Chompsky and Saul Alinsky! HEROES of The Left, WORSHIPED by them. They carry around their books like the Sayings and Quotations of Mao. They have statues on every Liberal Arts campus and all of Obama's policies are made in honor of them. Thank Noam the Republicans aren't in power.
 
2014-03-07 08:25:34 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Their ideology requires mythology.


St. Reagan was the master of the apocryphal story. He tapped into fear, disgust, and hatred to put out just the right stories to get elected and Republicans have been trying to mimic it ever since.
 
2014-03-07 08:25:46 AM  

kronicfeld: praymantis: The horror a politician lied OMG

http://www.fark.com/comments/8099696/88715204#c88715204

praymantis 2014-1-14 04:26:27 PM

Why are you all being so mean to Christie it is not like he was the Sec of State and the Ambassador was killed under his watch in the non-scandal that is Benghazi or ordering the IRS to not give non-profit status to politically backed groups in the non-scandal 2013 IRS.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-07 08:26:03 AM  
What an absolutely worthless sack of crap this guy is.
 
2014-03-07 08:28:29 AM  
I had my 9 year old read that section of the actual CPAC speech, and asked him for his opinion. He said "I think it's sad that he needs to get that free lunch. But I think it's good that he can get it." He also expressed concern about why we didn't get a free lunch, to which I replied that we can afford to buy lunches but if we couldn't he would get a free lunch.

When I asked him about the brown bag part he didn't really understand that. I pointed out that he likes to me to pack his lunch and he said that was because I know what he likes and he usually doesn't like the stuff they serve at school. Which I take as meaning he doesn't really understand the idea that people might not care about him, and that's a good thing. 

/ from the mouths of babes
// my 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan
 
2014-03-07 08:30:57 AM  
A politician lied???
 
2014-03-07 08:33:51 AM  
Wait, a poor kid wishing his family wasn't working-poor is a reason to  not want school lunches now?  Because the reason the kid didn't have a bag lunch was lack of family money and free time...
 
2014-03-07 08:34:02 AM  

Zasteva: 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan


whynotboth.jpg
 
2014-03-07 08:34:18 AM  

Zasteva: I had my 9 year old read that section of the actual CPAC speech, and asked him for his opinion. He said "I think it's sad that he needs to get that free lunch. But I think it's good that he can get it." He also expressed concern about why we didn't get a free lunch, to which I replied that we can afford to buy lunches but if we couldn't he would get a free lunch.

When I asked him about the brown bag part he didn't really understand that. I pointed out that he likes to me to pack his lunch and he said that was because I know what he likes and he usually doesn't like the stuff they serve at school. Which I take as meaning he doesn't really understand the idea that people might not care about him, and that's a good thing. 

/ from the mouths of babes
// my 9 year old is either smarter or more honest than Paul Ryan


Both, easily.
 
2014-03-07 08:34:30 AM  
I can see only two possible interpretations of Paul's story.

Either he things that 'stomachs full, soul empty' is bad and that free lunches should be repealed - leading to 'stomachs empty, but at least Republicans care about my soul', or he thinks that free lunches at schools should be handed out in brown paper bags.

And since we all know he would be against increasing school funding to pay for those bags, we're only left with option A as being what he really meant.
 
2014-03-07 08:34:32 AM  
Also, 9 year olds use brown paper lunch bags? Since when? The kids I see carry brightly colored lunch boxes, if they aren't getting a school hot lunch.

My nephew hasn't ever used a brown paper bag.
 
2014-03-07 08:36:11 AM  

Karac: I can see only two possible interpretations of Paul's story.

Either he things that 'stomachs full, soul empty' is bad and that free lunches should be repealed - leading to 'stomachs empty, but at least Republicans care about my soul', or he thinks that free lunches at schools should be handed out in brown paper bags.

And since we all know he would be against increasing school funding to pay for those bags, we're only left with option A as being what he really meant.


Could it be we've all misunderstood and he really just wants to use recyclable material to serve lunch in schools that may (for whatever reason) be using disposable trays?

Paul Ryan, Misunderstood Environmentalist?
 
2014-03-07 08:36:32 AM  
Replublicans prohibiting brown paper bags in lunch rooms "for safety's sake" and "for the children" in 3... 2... 1...
 
2014-03-07 08:37:17 AM  
The solution is clearly to give out free school lunches in brown paper bags.
 
2014-03-07 08:38:55 AM  

poot_rootbeer: I'm sure there are plenty of children who feel embarrassment over having to participate in subsidized meal programs. And I'm sure some of them will voluntarily choose to go hungry rather than have their peers find out their family is poor.

However, the social posturing a of a minority of 11-year-olds is no basis for federal government policy.


The kids who get a subsidized lunch don't wear a big Scarlet letter or something identifying them as recipients.

Although my son doesn't receive them, I did volunteer as a parent counselor at his old elementary school to help ESL parents apply for subsidized school lunch program.  The school required that students buy lunch tickets paid for in advance on a weekly/monthly basis, whether subsidized or not.  The tickets were identical and no one would have had a clue whether the parent paid full price for that ticket, or the subsidized price.

In a different state and while reviewing the program here, it was nearly identical, except the school "lunch lady" keeps a computer "account" for each student rather than use the ticket system. But, once again there's no way for other students to identify those who are receiving a subsidized lunch or not.  In fact, the teachers and other administrators, outside of the woman who administers the cafeteria wouldn't have a clue either.

As to your last sentence, agree completely.  The last thing I want to see is more "Government by Anecdote" crap.   Reagan was the master of creating policy and procedures based on those kind of cheap anecdotes, often which were based no more on reality than this Ryan laugher.
 
2014-03-07 08:39:57 AM  

baka-san: I find this amusing as the father of three...

All on the lunch program, but sometimes they take their lunch...

IN THEIR LUNCH BOXES!!!!
Kids only use paper(or plastic bags) when on field trips,


No kidding.  A kid bringing in lunch in a brown paper bag would be ridiculed like that chick on Jersey Shore who used black plastic bags as improvised luggage.  Also, who even uses paper bags for anything these days?  Even grandmas have switched over to plastic bags at the grocery store.  It's just typical teatard nostalgia for the 1950s.  They probably think that 'working men' still carry a metal lunch bucket and a thermos full of coffee when they go to their factory jobs, where the steam whistle blows when it's quittin' time.
 
2014-03-07 08:41:20 AM  
If Mama Welfare had to pack a lunch she paid for instead of driving her BMW to the salon, why she would come to see the true spirit of capitalism. She would immediately get a good job, husband, and be self reliant within the year. That simple brown bag could transform thousands from welfare dependents to productive members of society.

And in the end, isn't that what America is truly about.
 
2014-03-07 08:41:39 AM  

diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: diaphoresis: HotWingConspiracy: Also I love that the original liar that he lifted this from "misspoke" when she said she met this kid, she really meant she heard someone say that once.

They literally make this shiat up on the fly, their entire political game is lies and high fantasy.

Politics is nothing but lies and misdirection.

/Don't quote me on that

Nonsense, I hear that Paul Ryan is a straight shootin' numbers guy.

Did you know that 74.62% of statistics are made up on the spot?


40% of all people know that.
 
2014-03-07 08:42:07 AM  
Even if it was true it's a stupid story. I bet you could find a kid that thinks we should replace the school busses with dinosaurs. That doesn't mean we get rid of school busses, and replace them with....nothing.

But hey, think of the cost savings!
 
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