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(The Big Story)   WNBA, player's union agree on 8-year collective bargaining agreement to the delight of their fan   (bigstory.ap.org) divider line 29
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2014-03-06 09:00:20 PM
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2014-03-07 12:05:59 AM
There's still a WNBA? Who knew?
 
2014-03-07 12:08:36 AM
So, did like, every remaining player get to negotiate their own six month block?

/wish the Monarchs were still here
//league champs!
 
2014-03-07 12:40:25 AM

Errk: There's still a WNBA? Who knew?


You won't be seeing any WNBA discussion threads with their own sub-cliques, checklists, and all that other stuff here
 
2014-03-07 06:04:17 AM
Eight years? I call that optimistic in believing that there will even be a WNBA in eight years.

To their credit, unlike the NBA, the WNBA is not one big dunking contest and you see more good basketball fundamentals played. But that does not put butts in the seats.
 
2014-03-07 06:09:56 AM
Wait, wait, wait.

Hold the phone.

What the f*ck is the WNBA?
 
2014-03-07 06:48:53 AM

hasty ambush: Eight years? I call that optimistic in believing that there will even be a WNBA in eight years.

To their credit, unlike the NBA, the WNBA is not one big dunking contest and you see more good basketball fundamentals played. But that does not put butts in the seats.


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2014-03-07 07:22:52 AM
Layups are hot.

/Fundamentals are sexy.
 
2014-03-07 07:52:50 AM
Our hometown college team just went 31-0 in the regular season. We occasionally talk about them at work. One of the women I work with has a fit whenever that happens and we don't speak with equal enthusiasm about the women's team. Finally, having enough, one of my co-workers finally told her that nobody cared about the women's team. It got ugly after that.
 
2014-03-07 08:24:39 AM
to the delight of their fan

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2014-03-07 08:27:11 AM
Good thing too.  Can you imagine if they went on strike and had to bring in replacement players that were largely unknown names?
 
2014-03-07 08:28:53 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: hasty ambush: Eight years? I call that optimistic in believing that there will even be a WNBA in eight years.

To their credit, unlike the NBA, the WNBA is not one big dunking contest and you see more good basketball fundamentals played. But that does not put butts in the seats.


Did you tell them about the superior fundamentals?
 
2014-03-07 08:50:26 AM
To be fair, I think the NBA is also unwatchable. All the flopping makes it look like Euro soccer.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:45 AM

Big_Doofus: Our hometown college team just went 31-0 in the regular season. We occasionally talk about them at work. One of the women I work with has a fit whenever that happens and we don't speak with equal enthusiasm about the women's team. Finally, having enough, one of my co-workers finally told her that nobody cared about the women's team. It got ugly after that.


I played against a few of FSU's women basketball players. There's a huge gap (no pun intended).  On the plus side, most of them play with a chip on their shoulder, which I like.
 
2014-03-07 09:09:02 AM
 
2014-03-07 09:09:33 AM
I doubt anyone read the article, but it seems that the players got most of what they asked for in negotiations. Most of the stars in the WNBA go play overseas since there is a more lucrative market for them over there.

Here they should theoretically have all the advantages to get paid more - especially with the heavy NBA backing it gets. It just shows how little fan interest there is in the WNBA.
 
2014-03-07 09:19:31 AM
Remember when the WNBA playoffs had to be rescheduled because 'Dora the Explore on Ice' had higher priority in the arena?

/Good times... good times.
 
2014-03-07 09:22:18 AM

EngineerAU: Remember when the WNBA playoffs had to be rescheduled because 'Dora the Explore on Ice' had higher priority in the arena?

/Good times... good times.


Dora has good fundamentals.
 
2014-03-07 09:53:49 AM
Just for s/g's I looked up the WNBA salary structure.  Unlike the NBA there is a fairly strict structure.  Outside of the per diem, the salary situation is pretty dire there.  Though they can get up to 106k, that is rare.  For comparison there are 80+ NBA players that make more in a single game than the top WNBA player makes in an entire season.

While 106k is far from a bad salary and the guaranteed salaries for 1st year players line up alright with people in more traditional job markets you have to wonder about the longevity?  If someone has a 5 year career (in any sport) they are lucky.  For comparison the minimum rookie salary in the NBA is nearly 5 times the maximum salary for a WNBA player.  For a player in his 5th NBA season, his minimum salary is 10 times the maximum salary for a WNBA vet.

From a purely business perspective if someone has a good degree and has a shot at a good job straight out of college, it is probably much better for them to take that job then to play in the WNBA for a few years.  A good job will pay more, plus there isn't a end of career looming 4-5 years down the road for a doctor, lawyer, programmer, dishwasher, etc.
 
2014-03-07 10:02:30 AM
And that right there is why she commands 8 THOUSAND dollars a year!
 
2014-03-07 10:09:27 AM
I've lived in Minneapolis virtually my whole life, and I think that this is the only city that truly gives a crap about its WNBA team.  It's quite interesting to see how many sports fans here who will grasp at any semblance of success given we've all but given up on the "major four."  Apparently that tends to happen when it is the lone bright spot of an otherwise professional sports black hole (and major collegiate sports too, if you count the Gophers).  So, good, I guess?

/Going 23 years without a single major team even getting to a Finals round or Super Bowl (out of four) makes a fan grasp at anything
//Seattle was a partner in crime until a month ago
 
2014-03-07 10:13:58 AM

azwethnkweiz: And that right there is why she commands 8 THOUSAND dollars a year!


This made me think of the quote in Fletch.  "Four million dollars a year?   Sure, but he's worth every penny."  There was a time when $4million was seen as an outrageous salary for an NBA player.  Today the average is $5.15 million.

People complain about how CEO salaries have skyrocketed, but rarely about how much athletes' salaries have. In 1986 the team salary for the Lakers was 8.6 million and that was the highest in the league.  Adjusted for inflation that is $18.3 million.  There are two players on the Lakers that make more than that.
 
2014-03-07 10:22:52 AM
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Yes, please.
 
2014-03-07 10:35:06 AM

mjbok: azwethnkweiz: And that right there is why she commands 8 THOUSAND dollars a year!

This made me think of the quote in Fletch.  "Four million dollars a year?   Sure, but he's worth every penny."  There was a time when $4million was seen as an outrageous salary for an NBA player.  Today the average is $5.15 million.

People complain about how CEO salaries have skyrocketed, but rarely about how much athletes' salaries have. In 1986 the team salary for the Lakers was 8.6 million and that was the highest in the league.  Adjusted for inflation that is $18.3 million.  There are two players on the Lakers that make more than that.


That's because their salaries are going up commensurate with the value they're generating for the league. If the Lakers were making 20 million adjusted in '86 and 100 million now (which is probably a low estimate for the Lakers), the players get paid more.

In other words, the players deserve the money, unlike CEOs who get bonuses regardless of the performance of the company. If the players weren't getting paid more as team revenues went up, guess who would be pocketing it?
 
2014-03-07 03:06:13 PM

mjbok: People complain about how CEO salaries have skyrocketed, but rarely about how much athletes' salaries have. In 1986 the team salary for the Lakers was 8.6 million and that was the highest in the league. Adjusted for inflation that is $18.3 million. There are two players on the Lakers that make more than that.


It's easy for owners to pay players more when the taxpayers are constantly billed for new stadiums and arenas, most of which don't need replacing in the first place. Then the team owners arrange it so they get revenue from all events in these taxpayer subsidized facilities, even those that have nothing to do with the sport. Parking? Yeah, they get that money too even though the land for the parking lots was purchased with taxpayer funds. And the deed is technically held by the government so the team owner doesn't have to pay property taxes. In return a token amount of rent is charged that is usually less than 1% of the value of the facility. Maintenance? Why, that's the taxpayers job of course! Upgrades? Better pay up or the team will threaten to move to Los Angeles, Walla Walla, or Nome.

Owning a professional sports team is basically a license to take wheelbarrows of money out of the public treasury. With so much  cash in the system, some of it will naturally leak to the players who are making the whole scam possible. Stop public funding of sports facilities and player salaries will have to go down to keep the teams solvent. As it stands, I'd rather the players at least get a cut than it all go to some elderly buttwipe who doesn't care what damage it does to the local economy as long as they can brag  at the owners meeting about how much more they screwed over the public than they did in the last deal. At least the players will go out and spend the money and get it moving through the economy.
 
2014-03-07 04:07:11 PM
only 50% of them are dykes
 
2014-03-07 05:09:36 PM

EngineerAU: Remember when the WNBA playoffs had to be rescheduled because 'Dora the Explore on Ice' had higher priority in the arena?

/Good times... good times.


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2014-03-07 05:34:52 PM

hasty ambush: Eight years? I call that optimistic in believing that there will even be a WNBA in eight years.

To their credit, unlike the NBA, the WNBA is not one big dunking contest and you see more good basketball fundamentals played. But that does not put butts in the seats.


If they want to claim Better Fundamentals™, then I'd expect to see higher FG and FT percentage, higher assist to TO ratios, and lower overall turnovers.

I don't think you will, even adjusting for dunking in the mens' game.
 
2014-03-07 06:41:09 PM

mjbok: People complain about how CEO salaries have skyrocketed, but rarely about how much athletes' salaries have. In 1986 the team salary for the Lakers was 8.6 million and that was the highest in the league.  Adjusted for inflation that is $18.3 million.  There are two players on the Lakers that make more than that.


For one most people don't feel that players salaries impact them directly. If a CEO makes an obscene amount of money, people relate that to the workers making less because of that.

People complain that athletes get paid more than scientists, even though scientist's work is vastly more important. But that is the point. Sports is almost the definition of discretionary spending, it is entertainment and people are free to take it or leave it. If it costs too much don't go so let the free market run its course. It doesn't work that way with cancer drugs, people complain if they are too expensive because they are so vital.
 
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