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(Yahoo)   "It's like the day Kennedy was shot...no one will forget where they were when they heard the news." Is it: A) 9/11, B) Columbine, or C) Chrysler ordering 93 rare Vipers destroyed? Hint: The guy who said this is a complete imbecile   (autos.yahoo.com) divider line 12
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2014-03-07 12:10:32 AM  
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Speaker2Animals: School officials say Chrysler told them two of the 93 early Vipers given to schools had been involved in accidents by joyriding students, creating a major liability for Chrysler.

Yeah -- I think crushing them is a good idea.


The joyriding students? I agree.
2014-03-07 12:30:20 PM  
1 votes:
DougTaup

Aside from the fact that the EV1 was a GM vehicle, and that GM is not Chrysler

My error. You're correct. The EV1 was a GM product -- but the similarities in disposing of the two cars are what caught my attention, especially with so many enthusiasts wanting to keep them.
2014-03-07 04:03:01 AM  
1 votes:

Rik01: FYI: Chrysler recalled and shredded the EV-1 so fast that owners didn't even have time to protest. The EV1 was a magnificent electric car, far ahead of it's time so much that even before gas prices soared to really obnoxious levels, people bought them readily.

Many owners and car collectors offered to outright buy their cars and release Chrysler of any liabilities, but the company, which had leased the cars only, refused and snatched them back with a speed that was unprecedented. At that time, even museums requesting one were denied.

People reported seeing EV1s stacked up in junk yards by the score and being fed through crushers and metal shredders like the hounds of hell were on their butts.

I don't know what the 'defect' was, since what I read never reported any, but Chrysler was willing to absorb millions in losses to destroy the cars rather than hundreds of thousands to fix them.

I also know that, before the recall, a guy invented a radically new type of battery. Feeling that he changed the world, he sold the patent to Chrysler for a few grand. He expected to gain national fame from production, since his battery was far superior to any of the current commercial rechargeable batteries for vehicles that we have today.

Chrysler buried it. The thing never went into production. Efforts on his part to reclaim the patent failed. He lost out on a fat payday from royalties if the battery had gone into production. He was not a happy camper and had been required to sign a non-disclosure agreement. So, he can't even reproduce the designs.

There was a documentary made called 'Who Killed the Electric Car' which discusses the mystery surrounding the sudden and unmatched recall and the refusal of Chrysler to be willing to even leave one car behind or to sell any to try and recoup their tremendous losses.

Even the much maligned Chevy Corvair ('Unsafe At Any Speed') made several efforts to improve the model and correct problems before ceasing production. Chrysler never e ...



Aside from the fact that the EV1 was a GM vehicle, and that GM is not Chrysler, and that the plight of the EV1 has absolutely nothing to do with these Vipers; You're spot on.
2014-03-07 03:28:48 AM  
1 votes:
FYI: Chrysler recalled and shredded the EV-1 so fast that owners didn't even have time to protest. The EV1 was a magnificent electric car, far ahead of it's time so much that even before gas prices soared to really obnoxious levels, people bought them readily.

Many owners and car collectors offered to outright buy their cars and release Chrysler of any liabilities, but the company, which had leased the cars only, refused and snatched them back with a speed that was unprecedented. At that time, even museums requesting one were denied.

People reported seeing EV1s stacked up in junk yards by the score and being fed through crushers and metal shredders like the hounds of hell were on their butts.

I don't know what the 'defect' was, since what I read never reported any, but Chrysler was willing to absorb millions in losses to destroy the cars rather than hundreds of thousands to fix them.

I also know that, before the recall, a guy invented a radically new type of battery. Feeling that he changed the world, he sold the patent to Chrysler for a few grand. He expected to gain national fame from production, since his battery was far superior to any of the current commercial rechargeable batteries for vehicles that we have today.

Chrysler buried it. The thing never went into production. Efforts on his part to reclaim the patent failed. He lost out on a fat payday from royalties if the battery had gone into production. He was not a happy camper and had been required to sign a non-disclosure agreement. So, he can't even reproduce the designs.

There was a documentary made called 'Who Killed the Electric Car' which discusses the mystery surrounding the sudden and unmatched recall and the refusal of Chrysler to be willing to even leave one car behind or to sell any to try and recoup their tremendous losses.

Even the much maligned Chevy Corvair ('Unsafe At Any Speed') made several efforts to improve the model and correct problems before ceasing production. Chrysler never even attempted to do the same for the EV1.

That also sparked some suspicion among the general public, especially those who drove and loved the EV1.

So, this thing with the Viper is not unusual. Chrysler could have cheaply sold the cars to the schools which have them, releasing them of all liabilities and making a bit of profit. They could also have donated them, ensuring tax credits.

Chrysler seems to have this love affair with metal shredders and crushers.
2014-03-07 01:09:55 AM  
1 votes:

wildcardjack: After being "studied" in tech schools for years I'd bet they are fubar'ed anyways.

That being said, the first few should be conserved. Surely a museum piece.


The LeMay museum in Tacoma would be an excellent place for this car!

http://www.lemaymuseum.org/vehicles.php
2014-03-07 12:53:29 AM  
1 votes:
Who owns the car, Chrysler or the school?  If there was some sort of a contract signed when the car was donated to the school then Chrysler would certainly have some say.  Otherwise, I don't understand how Chrysler could demand the destruction of something that they no longer own.
2014-03-07 12:35:51 AM  
1 votes:
I remember Columbine. It's a shame all those astronauts died.
2014-03-07 12:34:16 AM  
1 votes:

brimed03: Or, Subby, he's a car guy.  And for car guys, yeah, it'd be like that.

/not a car guy, but I appreciate a good body with nice headlights


What a good body with nice headlights might look like:

fap.to
2014-03-07 12:16:24 AM  
1 votes:
Are they at least being fed to Truckasaurus?
2014-03-07 12:11:12 AM  
1 votes:
D) Avro Arrow killed to protect inferior American planes.
2014-03-06 11:59:01 PM  
1 votes:
It's a shame to destroy them.  If they're actually concerned about liability it seems like there would be a way to transfer the titles to the current owners and brand the titles appropriately to discourage resale.
2014-03-06 10:57:47 PM  
1 votes:

Speaker2Animals: School officials say Chrysler told them two of the 93 early Vipers given to schools had been involved in accidents by joyriding students, creating a major liability for Chrysler.

Yeah -- I think crushing them is a good idea.



"Chrysler Group has no record of any legal proceedings involving Dodge Viper vehicles donated to educational institutions being involved in accidents and product liability lawsuits."
 
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