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(Boston.com)   Woman who won "The Taste" is card-carrying beer geek, frustrated that Bourdain and producers didn't get it. "The beer challenge, I was literally livid. They had given us 10 [crappy] lagers from around the world, one stout, and Lagunitas IPA"   (boston.com) divider line 51
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2014-03-06 05:22:11 PM
Not all craft beer drinkers are hipsters. There are awesome women brewing beer.

sexist
 
mhd
2014-03-06 05:25:49 PM
Do we really need another brand of oenophiles/"mixologists"/pot connoisseurs? Just get drunk. Sure, don't do it on crappy beer, but no need to overcompensate.
 
2014-03-06 05:37:33 PM
I used to work down the street from the Blind Tiger. Good bar. Guy I know fell down the stairs going into the bathroom and had to be walked out..turns out it was diebeetus.
 
2014-03-06 05:40:32 PM
I'm pretty sure craft beer is right on the verge of becoming uncool. Here in Portland it's gotten so saturated that in the last few months even all the supermarkets and convenience store have installed dozens of rotating taps and will fill growlers for you or serve you pints at some makeshift counter-space.

Start researching fermented saliva beverages now, if you want to get back on the cutting edge.
 
2014-03-06 05:45:39 PM
Picked up a growler of Lagunitas Sucks and drank it on Saturday.  Good stuff!
 
2014-03-06 05:47:00 PM
That's hilarious. Beer is "pretentious" now?  (Hipsters are always pretentious, it's not the beer)

<font="comic sans">I'm into kombucha now. It's an obscure drink, maybe you haven't heard of it.
 
2014-03-06 05:48:14 PM

thesloppy: I'm pretty sure craft beer is right on the verge of becoming uncool. Here in Portland it's gotten so saturated that in the last few months even all the supermarkets and convenience store have installed dozens of rotating taps and will fill growlers for you or serve you pints at some makeshift counter-space.

Start researching fermented saliva beverages now, if you want to get back on the cutting edge.


I'm gonna drain the leavings and whey off my fermented cabbage, strain them and bottle them as "Cave Creek Chili Beer! New and Improved!"
 
2014-03-06 05:49:25 PM
Bourdain just likes those crappy lagers.  It's almost always what you'd see him drinking on his shows when he'd drink beer.  Often Heineken.
 
2014-03-06 05:50:01 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I'm gonna drain the leavings and whey off my fermented cabbage, strain them and bottle them as "Cave Creek Chili Beer! New and Improved!"


That probably would be better than Cave Creek Chili Beer
 
2014-03-06 05:50:21 PM
Wow. People on Fark would hate her.

Q: What kinds of beers do you like to drink?
Sours are awesome with food, especially with really rich, buttery foods. Butter-poached lobster paired with a nice salad, that sounds so delicious right now. It used to be difficult to find sours in bars and bottle shops, but now you're seeing them more and more.
I like west coast IPAs. Funky, earthy ciders. those are amazing paired with food also. If someone throws me a can of PBR at a BBQ, I'm not going to say no, I'm going to drink it. But if you care about food and care about things that taste good, why would you sit around drinking Budweiser?

Except for IPAs I'm 100% with her there.


StopLurkListen: That's hilarious. Beer is "pretentious" now?  (Hipsters are always pretentious, it's not the beer)

<font="comic sans">I'm into kombucha now. It's an obscure drink, maybe you haven't heard of it.



That's so mainstream of you lamo. They sell it right from the shelf at Whole Foods.
 
2014-03-06 05:53:51 PM
We're supposed to carry cards?
 
2014-03-06 06:00:27 PM
But if you care about food and care about things that taste good, why would you sit around drinking Budweiser?

Because it's delicious? Oops, I mean... I'm so craft I shiat hops.
 
2014-03-06 06:12:21 PM

thesloppy: I'm pretty sure craft beer is right on the verge of becoming uncool.


It became uncool when it became synonymous with "hopped to the point of undrinkablility".

The wine/beer snob shop around the corner carries about 100 different IPAs, 50 imperial stouts, 2 pilsners that taste like IPAs, a red ale that tastes like an IPA, and a handful of chocolate/peanut butter/candy cane/gummi bear porters.

I feel like I'm living in an episode of the Twilight Zone where I'm the only one with working taste buds.

Fortunately, a place a few miles away carries Fraoch Heather Ale. Zero hops.
 
2014-03-06 06:18:37 PM

Wendy's Chili: thesloppy: I'm pretty sure craft beer is right on the verge of becoming uncool.

It became uncool when it became synonymous with "hopped to the point of undrinkablility".

The wine/beer snob shop around the corner carries about 100 different IPAs, 50 imperial stouts, 2 pilsners that taste like IPAs, a red ale that tastes like an IPA, and a handful of chocolate/peanut butter/candy cane/gummi bear porters.

I feel like I'm living in an episode of the Twilight Zone where I'm the only one with working taste buds.

Fortunately, a place a few miles away carries Fraoch Heather Ale. Zero hops.


I think it's just easy to make a super-hop beer, isn't it? Doesn't require any finesse or tricky stuff, just cram an entire field of hops into each bottle.  Personally I never really 'got' IPAs when I was drinking, I liked me some stout, or other version of beer you could leave alone to fend for itself with a knife while you went to pee.
 
2014-03-06 06:19:04 PM

mhd: Do we really need another brand of oenophiles/"mixologists"/pot connoisseurs? Just get drunk. Sure, don't do it on crappy beer, but no need to overcompensate.


That's not what she's talking about. She's talking about serving beer with food. And in that situation, the beer is drunk more for the flavour, and like wine, some beers go better with some foods. You might want something like an IPA with curry, a dark ale with game, and maybe a wheat beer with salad. It's quite normal in some restaurants in Belgium.

And some beers you really don't want a session on. I once had a drinking session in Amsterdam on Duvel. It tastes great, it's easy drinking, but it's 8.5%. And it farked me up.
 
2014-03-06 06:20:10 PM

Wendy's Chili: thesloppy: I'm pretty sure craft beer is right on the verge of becoming uncool.

It became uncool when it became synonymous with "hopped to the point of undrinkablility".

The wine/beer snob shop around the corner carries about 100 different IPAs, 50 imperial stouts, 2 pilsners that taste like IPAs, a red ale that tastes like an IPA, and a handful of chocolate/peanut butter/candy cane/gummi bear porters.

I feel like I'm living in an episode of the Twilight Zone where I'm the only one with working taste buds.

Fortunately, a place a few miles away carries Fraoch Heather Ale. Zero hops.


I'm right there with you, man. Give me anything but an IPA. These hopped up monstrosities are just NOT appealing on any level. "Oh, this one tastes like... hops..."

I went to a huge beer festival in St. Louis last spring and every other beer there was an IPA. I was disappoint.
 
2014-03-06 06:30:02 PM
I like IPA's. Am I bad?

/Victory Brewing 'Hop Devil' FTW
 
2014-03-06 06:31:41 PM
I'd like to join the anti-IPA hate squad. Overpowering a beer with Hops doesn't make a good beer, it makes a lazy Brewer. The human body evolved to equate bitterness with poison. You don't enjoy IPAs, you tolerate them for some damn reason. Probably status.
 
2014-03-06 06:31:53 PM
Lagunitas puts out some good products, they are obviously in love with hops but there's nothing wrong with that.
 
2014-03-06 06:32:26 PM
What's wrong with the Lagunitas?
 
2014-03-06 06:32:44 PM
What a pretentious coont.

Sorry, folks, but drinking a stout or IPA or Maldivian-bear-shiat-flavored beer on a summer day is NOT even remotely 'tasty'. Get a real job, sweat all day in the summer sun, then reach for that stout or sour. You won't. Now try a nice cold Bud Light...crisp and refreshing, which is what you want.
I don't drink much BL these days, but I prefer Pilsners and Lagers to anything else. I want to taste wheat and barley and hops.......not smoke or orange or vanilla...or, God help us, cloves.
Don't get me wrong; I certainly cook with these beers and pair them well. (Try using a double-smoked porter next time you make a smoked gouda soup!!!) I just don't think they'll ever replace the crisp and clean taste of a traditional American lager.
 
2014-03-06 06:48:08 PM

fastfxr: What a pretentious coont.

Sorry, folks, but drinking a stout or IPA or Maldivian-bear-shiat-flavored beer on a summer day is NOT even remotely 'tasty'. Get a real job, sweat all day in the summer sun, then reach for that stout or sour. You won't. Now try a nice cold Bud Light...crisp and refreshing, which is what you want.
I don't drink much BL these days, but I prefer Pilsners and Lagers to anything else. I want to taste wheat and barley and hops.......not smoke or orange or vanilla...or, God help us, cloves.
Don't get me wrong; I certainly cook with these beers and pair them well. (Try using a double-smoked porter next time you make a smoked gouda soup!!!) I just don't think they'll ever replace the crisp and clean taste of a traditional American lager.


You sound poor.
 
2014-03-06 06:48:54 PM
Isn't the whole point of these shows and their "challenges" to make due with sub-optimal ingredients under a time constraint?
 
2014-03-06 06:50:35 PM
Different beers for different places and times.

Nobody can ever convince me that a Porch Pounder is not a "good" beer in certain settings.
 
2014-03-06 06:50:46 PM
IPAs are great if they're done right. Sadly not a lot of them are done right.
 
2014-03-06 06:51:57 PM

fastfxr: Now try a nice cold Bud Light.


No.
 
2014-03-06 07:04:49 PM

Soup4Bonnie: What's wrong with the Lagunitas?


they sold out ever since they did that breeders cover tour
 
2014-03-06 07:05:51 PM
Isn't the point of many of there're cooking shows to find a chef that can take less than ideal ingredients and turn them into something greater than the sum of its parts.
 
2014-03-06 07:06:48 PM
IPAs are awesome, fark the haters. Enjoy your ale brewed once a decade in the anuses of castrated Belgian monks using the same recipe for 900 years and brag about how you "only" paid $19 a bottle.

IPAs go by seasons.


Summer: Ithaca Flower Power or Victory Summer Love

Winter: Stone Sublimely Self-righteous or Dogfish 90 minute
 
2014-03-06 07:09:41 PM

duffblue: IPAs go by seasons.


...and they all taste like someone spilled my grandmother's perfume in an otherwise OK session beer.
 
2014-03-06 07:12:21 PM

thesloppy: I'm pretty sure craft beer is right on the verge of becoming uncool. Here in Portland it's gotten so saturated that in the last few months even all the supermarkets and convenience store have installed dozens of rotating taps and will fill growlers for you or serve you pints at some makeshift counter-space.

Start researching fermented saliva beverages now, if you want to get back on the cutting edge.


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2014-03-06 07:16:59 PM

JoshTheTech: Isn't the point of many of there're cooking shows to find a chef that can take less than ideal ingredients and turn them into something greater than the sum of its parts.


That's what I was wondering. Her excuse is that it was as if they gave her a challenge where the only ingredients were 10 types of baloney. Except I'm fairly certain beer wasn't the only ingredient, so her comparison kinda falls apart. A challenge where you have to use baloney but they give you 10 types would be perfectly in line with that sort of show. biatching about how you couldn't use other sliced meats in that situation would result in a well-deserved round of mockery. So she's just pissed the challenge didn't cater to her tastes and give a chance to show off how much of a beer snob she was.
 
2014-03-06 07:27:30 PM

thesloppy: I'm pretty sure craft beer is right on the verge of becoming uncool. Here in Portland it's gotten so saturated that in the last few months even all the supermarkets and convenience store have installed dozens of rotating taps and will fill growlers for you or serve you pints at some makeshift counter-space.

Start researching fermented saliva beverages now, if you want to get back on the cutting edge.


You say that like it's a bad thing.

/I don't like most IPA's because they are miles away from the actual style: where's the oak? where's the toasted malt?
 
2014-03-06 07:44:06 PM

fastfxr: What a pretentious coont.

Sorry, folks, but drinking a stout or IPA or Maldivian-bear-shiat-flavored beer on a summer day is NOT even remotely 'tasty'. Get a real job, sweat all day in the summer sun, then reach for that stout or sour. You won't. Now try a nice cold Bud Light...crisp and refreshing, which is what you want.
I don't drink much BL these days, but I prefer Pilsners and Lagers to anything else. I want to taste wheat and barley and hops.......not smoke or orange or vanilla...or, God help us, cloves.
Don't get me wrong; I certainly cook with these beers and pair them well. (Try using a double-smoked porter next time you make a smoked gouda soup!!!) I just don't think they'll ever replace the crisp and clean taste of a traditional American lager.


The summer argument is always fun to me, especially in the winter.  There are plenty of refreshing beers that aren't Bud Light that are refreshing, plus she says in TFA that she won't turn down a PBR at a BBQ.  But you are definitely not an asshole about a "real job"
 
2014-03-06 07:57:49 PM
I like properly hopped beers, to include IPAs. My favorites are ESBs or other types of Bitters, Milds, etc...

Actually all my favorite types are ales...
 
2014-03-06 08:08:31 PM

Scrotastic Method: We're supposed to carry cards?


Yours must have been lost in the mail
 
2014-03-06 08:31:48 PM
I've got all you hipster, home-brewing, hops haters beat. I quit drinking.
 
2014-03-06 08:39:58 PM
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I...I...I'm a beer heretic and I love it! Okay, I can't live this lie anymore! I LOVE the taste of ice-cold alcohol-water shotgunning down my throat! I wish they served this heavenly club-soda-ginger-ale hybrid in bars where I live! There, I said it!

...and screw you, I LIKE a well-done steak!
 
2014-03-06 09:09:24 PM
beer geeks are worse than oenophiles
 
2014-03-06 10:00:37 PM

fastfxr: Sorry, folks, but drinking a stout or IPA or Maldivian-bear-shiat-flavored beer on a summer day is NOT even remotely 'tasty'. Get a real job, sweat all day in the summer sun, then reach for that stout or sour. You won't. Now try a nice cold Bud Light...crisp and refreshing, which is what you want.


Yeah, I drink water on hot days when I'm sweating balls, too
 
2014-03-06 10:22:22 PM

whither_apophis: /I don't like most IPA's because they are miles away from the actual style: where's the oak? where's the toasted malt?


It's not supposed to be there. They coated the insides of the barrels with brewer's pitch, so there shouldn't be any oak character.
 
2014-03-06 10:40:22 PM

dietbubba: Scrotastic Method: We're supposed to carry cards?

Yours must have been lost in the mail


More likely I got drunk and lost it.
 
2014-03-06 10:45:06 PM

dietbubba: Scrotastic Method: We're supposed to carry cards?

Yours must have been lost in the mail


no...they carry their guinness bar towels with them.
 
2014-03-06 10:51:45 PM
IPAs...the unspoiling garbage swill England sent with drunken sailors going to India. German beer uber alles
 
2014-03-06 11:06:09 PM
The thing that is so awesome about beer is that you take four basic ingredients (hops, grain, water and yeast) and can get so many different products. I love IPAs and pale ales and Guinness. They're like dog breeds- you can hardly believe a Great Dane and a Pekingese are the same thing, but they are on a certain level. Love all the beers!!
 
2014-03-07 12:48:04 AM

fastfxr: Get a real job, sweat all day in the summer sun, then reach for that stout or sour. You won't. Now try a nice cold Bud Light...crisp and refreshing, which is what you want.


If you need a refreshment after a hard day out in the sun, skip the beer altogether and reach for a can of coconut water.
 
2014-03-07 01:10:40 AM
I agree with the guy saying cheap beers are great in summer and microbrews are better in winter.
 
2014-03-07 01:26:04 AM
I enjoy some IPAs, but I enjoy a ton about almost every type of beer. I'm into trippels right now, though I did enjoy some Fremont Interurban IPA just recently. Tastes great coming out of a can, and unlike many people, I like a light fruit finish sometimes (especially a grapefruit finish).
 
2014-03-07 07:55:53 AM

psilocyberguy: I like IPA's. Am I bad?

/Victory Brewing 'Hop Devil' FTW



uh....  are you aware of Dirtwolf and Hop Ranch ?
 
2014-03-07 03:23:53 PM

TheJoe03: I agree with the guy saying cheap beers are great in summer and microbrews are better in winter.


This is what I drink in the summer.

www.allaroundpizza.com

Although generally speaking, I brew a porter/stout homebrew thing year round. But if I run out of that or want to mix it up, this is what I get at the packy. Sometimes a citrus-y saison, like Farm Girl from Lift Bridge Brewery or Blue Moon's Farmhouse Red (which my wife likes).
 
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