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2014-03-06 01:15:13 PM
Isn't it about time for him to go off the cliff, as do most running backs at about his age?
 
2014-03-06 02:26:39 PM
I would only consider signing Vick if the Vikings can't get one of the top 3 qbs in the draft.
 
2014-03-06 02:31:51 PM
Bad Vikings! No! Dont roll in poop and drag disgusting injured (mostly dead) things home. You know better than that!
 
2014-03-06 02:33:10 PM
Keep in mind, AP thinks that being an NFL player is like being a slave.So there's that.

**OR**

What is it AP, forgotten how to fumble and need a few pointers?

/Look, if he is the LAST guy available AND we don;t draft a QB (which I don;t think we should at #8), then fine, whatever
//Vick is NOT our best shot at winning this year
///we HAVE NO SHOT OF WINNING THIS YEAR
 
2014-03-06 02:36:48 PM
Do you think he meant "instantly"?
 
2014-03-06 02:36:52 PM
Was throwing ever an option with the Vikings?
 
2014-03-06 02:37:00 PM
1) Sign Mike Vick.
2) Sign Tim Tebow.
3) Run a wildcat offense with no passing
4) ???
5) 1st overall draft pick
 
2014-03-06 02:38:01 PM
Vick... almost makes sense for the Vikings, in terms of why the fark not?
 
2014-03-06 02:40:36 PM

Lost Thought 00: Was throwing ever an option with the Vikings?


Games, maybe.
 
2014-03-06 02:46:51 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: ///we HAVE NO SHOT OF WINNING THIS YEAR


Get ready for another year of Ponder freezing after seeing his own shadow.
 
2014-03-06 02:48:00 PM
Vick? In an outdoor stadium in the frozen tundra? Sure, why not.
 
2014-03-06 02:50:58 PM
Vick sort of deserves to be playing outdoors in Minnesota in December. but really I wish he'd slither out of the spotlight and live his life in a way that doesnt put his name in the headlines.
 
2014-03-06 02:53:42 PM

Jubeebee: Lost Thought 00: Was throwing ever an option with the Vikings?

Games, maybe.


YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE.
 
2014-03-06 03:02:13 PM

SurfaceTension: Isn't it about time for him to go off the cliff, as do most running backs at about his age?


Clinton Portis: 2230 att, 9923 yds, 342 carries for 1487 at the age of 27 (his last "big" year)
Shaun Alexander: 2187 att, 9453 yds, 370 carries for 1880 at the age of 28
Thomas Jones: 2687 att, 10591 yds, 331 carries for 1402 at the age of 31
Jamaal Lewis: 2542 att, 10607 yds, 298 for 1304 at age 28, and 279 for 1002 at age 29
Corey Dillon: 2618 att, 11241 yds, 345 carries for 1635 at age 30

AD: 2033 att, 10115 yds. 348 for 2097 at the age of 27, 279 for 1266 last year at the age of 28.

I'd have to go look it up, but I would bet money all those other guys were picked Top 10 in most FF leagues the year after their last hurrah's. It seems stupid to say that Peterson will fall off a cliff, but when it goes with these guys, it goes quick, and you rarely see it coming until they've put up like a 600 yard season.
 
2014-03-06 03:08:45 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Jubeebee: Lost Thought 00: Was throwing ever an option with the Vikings?

Games, maybe.

YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE.


Oh please, if we can't laugh at our tragedy of a team, we'd never get through the year.
 
2014-03-06 03:14:12 PM

Lost Thought 00: Was throwing ever an option with the Vikings?


They were a passing team for many years, right up until Moss was dealt to Oakland.  Then came the Favre experiment, which worked really well for a year until he got mauled by the Saints.  Last year, the defense was a bigger problem than our QB woes.  There's plenty of talent at WR right now.  Vikings should use their first pick on a QB and all others on defense.  Then they should sign every undrafted QB they can to the scout team in the hopes that one of them develops in to something useable.
 
2014-03-06 03:14:22 PM

verbaltoxin: Jim from Saint Paul: Jubeebee: Lost Thought 00: Was throwing ever an option with the Vikings?

Games, maybe.

YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE.

Oh please, if we can't laugh at our tragedy of a team, we'd never get through the year.


"Throwing a game" is something Burt Reynolds does.

"Chocking a game away" is what a Viking does.
 
2014-03-06 03:16:48 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: "Throwing a game" is something Burt Reynolds does.

"Chocking a game away" is what a Viking does.


I wasn't aware that Burt Reynolds was ever a real, professional athlete. Longest Yard was a good movie and all, but...
 
2014-03-06 03:17:39 PM

jayhawk88: SurfaceTension: Isn't it about time for him to go off the cliff, as do most running backs at about his age?

Clinton Portis: 2230 att, 9923 yds, 342 carries for 1487 at the age of 27 (his last "big" year)
Shaun Alexander: 2187 att, 9453 yds, 370 carries for 1880 at the age of 28
Thomas Jones: 2687 att, 10591 yds, 331 carries for 1402 at the age of 31
Jamaal Lewis: 2542 att, 10607 yds, 298 for 1304 at age 28, and 279 for 1002 at age 29
Corey Dillon: 2618 att, 11241 yds, 345 carries for 1635 at age 30

AD: 2033 att, 10115 yds. 348 for 2097 at the age of 27, 279 for 1266 last year at the age of 28.

I'd have to go look it up, but I would bet money all those other guys were picked Top 10 in most FF leagues the year after their last hurrah's. It seems stupid to say that Peterson will fall off a cliff, but when it goes with these guys, it goes quick, and you rarely see it coming until they've put up like a 600 yard season.


Marshall Faulk - 2,155 att, 9,442 (rushing), 340 touches for over 2,000 yds at the age of 28
Tomlinson - 2,365 att, 10,650 (rushing) , 375 Touches for ~2,000 yards at the age of 28. (Had 1 more good (not as great) year then off the cliff)
 
2014-03-06 03:18:45 PM

NewWorldDan: Vikings should use their first pick on a QB and all others on defense.


Unless Bridgewater somehow falls to 8, I disagree 100% percent.

Best D player at 8 and then best pl;ayer available anywhere else. STOP REACHING.
 
2014-03-06 03:19:41 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: "Chocking a game away" is what a Viking does.


3rd and 12?  Take the hand-off and run straight into the largest mob of defenders you can find.  We're sure to win with that strategy!

/or just into the back of one of your teammates, then fall down and cover the ball.
 
2014-03-06 03:36:21 PM

MugzyBrown: Marshall Faulk - 2,155 att, 9,442 (rushing), 340 touches for over 2,000 yds at the age of 28
Tomlinson - 2,365 att, 10,650 (rushing) , 375 Touches for ~2,000 yards at the age of 28. (Had 1 more good (not as great) year then off the cliff)


It's pretty great looking at that list of all time leading rusher stats...there are some crazy "Man I would have never thought that" factoids to be found:

- Warrick Dunn is the 19th all time leading rusher with 10,967 yards?
- Freeman McNeil has only 98 less yards for his career than Priest Holmes?
- Emmit Smith is way, way better than you remember. 377 for 1773 at the age of 26, then ripped off six 1000 yd seasons after that. He had 267 att for 937 yds at the age of 35 for the Cards in his final season. From '90 to '02, he missed 7 games and had at least 241 attempts (his rookie year) every season.
 
2014-03-06 03:39:13 PM
Is there a big sports talk radio station up in Minnesota?  How many calls about the Vikings discussing an AP trade?   Does it sound stupid?  (scale: more stupid than the average sports radio caller)
 
2014-03-06 03:44:25 PM
jayhawk88:
- Warrick Dunn is the 19th all time leading rusher with 10,967 yards?
- Freeman McNeil has only 98 less yards for his career than Priest Holmes?
- Emmit Smith is way, way better than you remember. 377 for 1773 at the age of 26, then ripped off six 1000 yd seasons after that. He had 267 att for 937 yds at the age of 35 for the Cards in his final season. From '90 to '02, he missed 7 games and had at least 241 attempts (his rookie year) every season.


The Warrick Dunn stat is a surprise to me.  The Freeman Macneil thing doesn't surprise me.
I don't think you could underrate Emmitt Smith - it seemed he was on every Monday Night and John Madden never broadcast a game in the 90's without mentioning his name 30 times. (I heard Emmitt cried when Madden left him for Brett Favre)   The big argument with Emmitt during his career was whether or not he was great or if he was the product of a great team.  That was sort of the basis for the Emmitt vs. Barry Sanders argument
 
2014-03-06 03:46:25 PM

flak attack: 1) Sign Mike Vick.
2) Sign Tim Tebow.
3) Run a wildcat offense with no passing
4) ???
5) 1st overall draft pick


You know, I'd love to see an NFL team run the Wishbone, and a backfield of Vick, Tebow, and AP would actually be pretty damned effective at it.
 
2014-03-06 03:49:17 PM

jayhawk88: SurfaceTension: Isn't it about time for him to go off the cliff, as do most running backs at about his age?

Clinton Portis: 2230 att, 9923 yds, 342 carries for 1487 at the age of 27 (his last "big" year)
Shaun Alexander: 2187 att, 9453 yds, 370 carries for 1880 at the age of 28
Thomas Jones: 2687 att, 10591 yds, 331 carries for 1402 at the age of 31
Jamaal Lewis: 2542 att, 10607 yds, 298 for 1304 at age 28, and 279 for 1002 at age 29
Corey Dillon: 2618 att, 11241 yds, 345 carries for 1635 at age 30

AD: 2033 att, 10115 yds. 348 for 2097 at the age of 27, 279 for 1266 last year at the age of 28.

I'd have to go look it up, but I would bet money all those other guys were picked Top 10 in most FF leagues the year after their last hurrah's. It seems stupid to say that Peterson will fall off a cliff, but when it goes with these guys, it goes quick, and you rarely see it coming until they've put up like a 600 yard season.


And that cliff typically happens around the age of 30. They tend to go downhill quickly after that.
 
2014-03-06 03:54:42 PM
Bothers gotta stick together.
 
2014-03-06 03:59:56 PM

verbaltoxin: Jim from Saint Paul: "Throwing a game" is something Burt Reynolds does.

"Chocking a game away" is what a Viking does.

I wasn't aware that Burt Reynolds was ever a real, professional athlete. Longest Yard was a good movie and all, but...


Reynolds had a full ride to FSU for football. He might have been able to go pro but he got in a bad car crash before the season started.
 
2014-03-06 04:03:30 PM
By "playoff team", I wonder if he means a team of guys who get together and watch all the playoff games on TV.
 
2014-03-06 04:09:38 PM

verbaltoxin: Jim from Saint Paul: "Throwing a game" is something Burt Reynolds does.

"Chocking a game away" is what a Viking does.

I wasn't aware that Burt Reynolds was ever a real, professional athlete. Longest Yard was a good movie and all, but...


Well, haven't had to pull this out in a while:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-06 04:10:48 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Jim from Saint Paul: "Chocking a game away" is what a Viking does.

3rd and 12?  Take the hand-off and run straight into the largest mob of defenders you can find.  We're sure to win with that strategy!

/or just into the back of one of your teammates, then fall down and cover the ball.


Dennis Green like typing detected.
 
2014-03-06 04:11:52 PM

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Found this just a second ago.



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Hadn't seen it before. Totally getting saved.
 
2014-03-06 04:37:53 PM

Nana's Vibrator: The big argument with Emmitt during his career was whether or not he was great or if he was the product of a great team. That was sort of the basis for the Emmitt vs. Barry Sanders argument


Emmitt was fortunate that he had the Great Wall of Dallas for his O-line.  He freely admits that they were so good at opening holes in the D-lines all he had to do was run through them (he said exactly that in A Football Life, in the ep about the Dallas front line).
 
2014-03-06 04:39:41 PM
The fact it isn't mentioned in the headline and nobody has brought it up indicates Vick finally isn't being dogged by his past.
 
2014-03-06 04:45:20 PM

Cletus C.: The fact it isn't mentioned in the headline and nobody has brought it up indicates Vick finally isn't being dogged by his past.


In that case, just let me make it clear that whenever I mention the name Michael Vick (or Ron Mexico) you can feel free to assume that I'm hoping he gets injured very, very badly because of his past.

/My favourite plays of any NFL season involve plays where he's hurt
 
2014-03-06 04:48:47 PM

redmid17: Reynolds had a full ride to FSU for football. He might have been able to go pro but he got in a bad car crash before the season started.


I'd say it turned out pretty well for him in the long run.  In Reynolds' biography, James Hampton talked about how Reynolds could twitch his eyebrow at a hot chick and she'd pretty much drop her drawers on the spot.
 
2014-03-06 04:59:25 PM

ristst: redmid17: Reynolds had a full ride to FSU for football. He might have been able to go pro but he got in a bad car crash before the season started.

I'd say it turned out pretty well for him in the long run.  In Reynolds' biography, James Hampton talked about how Reynolds could twitch his eyebrow at a hot chick and she'd pretty much drop her drawers on the spot.


Here's my favorite quote:

"One was gorgeous, the other one was ugly. He always took the beautiful girl, gave me the ugly one. But you know what I found out early? Burt Reynolds' ugly girlfriends were better than anything I could get on my own."
- Lee Corso
 
2014-03-06 05:20:27 PM

Cletus C.: The fact it isn't mentioned in the headline and nobody has brought it up indicates Vick finally isn't being dogged by his past.


woof
 
2014-03-06 05:30:45 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: NewWorldDan: Vikings should use their first pick on a QB and all others on defense.

Unless Bridgewater somehow falls to 8, I disagree 100% percent.

Best D player at 8 and then best pl;ayer available anywhere else. STOP REACHING.


Spielman won't reach again, like Ponder. He learned his lesson. His drafts overall have been very positive.

He's almost certainly considering two options;

1. Move up to the 4th spot. But what to give up? 1st and 2nd or 1st and 3rd? I'd move up if we could pawn one of our two third round picks. At 4, you're guaranteed one of the 3 top QBs or Clowney.
2. Move back in the first round, accumulate 2nd/3rd/4th round picks. Draft QB at the end of the first, or in the second.

I suppose these decisions are heavily impacted by who gets signed before/during free agency, but overall those should be the options the Vikings are considering.
 
2014-03-06 07:39:17 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Is there a big sports talk radio station up in Minnesota?  How many calls about the Vikings discussing an AP trade?   Does it sound stupid?  (scale: more stupid than the average sports radio caller)


We have two of them, and they have been getting stupid calls about trading AP for the last couple of years. The hosts bring it up a lot. And they're stupid. REAL stupid. Can't we trade him for Aaron Rodgers stupid.
 
2014-03-06 08:07:26 PM
As an Eagle's fan I'd be warning all you Vikings fans that if you're thinking you might get another Cunningham, it's more likely you'd be getting another McNabb...
 
2014-03-06 08:14:40 PM

Jakesta: Nana's Vibrator: Is there a big sports talk radio station up in Minnesota?  How many calls about the Vikings discussing an AP trade?   Does it sound stupid?  (scale: more stupid than the average sports radio caller)

We have two of them, and they have been getting stupid calls about trading AP for the last couple of years. The hosts bring it up a lot. And they're stupid. REAL stupid. Can't we trade him for Aaron Rodgers stupid.


Maybe we could interest you in a Tony Romo...for a few draft picks, of course.
 
2014-03-06 08:50:22 PM
Vick sucks. But he's a whole lot better than the steaming pile of shiat that the Vikings currently have as QB options.
 
2014-03-06 09:05:06 PM

flak attack: 1) Sign Mike Vick.
2) Sign Tim Tebow.
3) Run a wildcat offense with no passing
4) Loose every game in such a fashion that this:

img.fark.net

    ends up looking respectable by comparison
5) 1st overall draft pick

 
2014-03-06 11:14:11 PM
Dear lord ppl, it's AD, as in all day.

/boomer sooner
 
2014-03-07 12:09:59 PM

Jakesta: Nana's Vibrator: Is there a big sports talk radio station up in Minnesota?  How many calls about the Vikings discussing an AP trade?   Does it sound stupid?  (scale: more stupid than the average sports radio caller)

We have two of them, and they have been getting stupid calls about trading AP for the last couple of years. The hosts bring it up a lot. And they're stupid. REAL stupid. Can't we trade him for Aaron Rodgers stupid.


Who does what you're saying?

I listen to KFAN and couldn;t tell you the lineup at AM 1500.

Powertrip - Keep him
Paul Allen - Keep Him (Voice of the Vikings and even before that he was a total rube for the team)
Common Man - Trade him, value will never be higher
Burriero - Only trade him if you get a mint.

So it's gotta be 1500 that's spouting this stuff off.

/ I am on the "Get a mint or ride him into the ground" camp
 
2014-03-07 11:23:59 PM

Nana's Vibrator: jayhawk88:
- Warrick Dunn is the 19th all time leading rusher with 10,967 yards?
- Freeman McNeil has only 98 less yards for his career than Priest Holmes?
- Emmit Smith is way, way better than you remember. 377 for 1773 at the age of 26, then ripped off six 1000 yd seasons after that. He had 267 att for 937 yds at the age of 35 for the Cards in his final season. From '90 to '02, he missed 7 games and had at least 241 attempts (his rookie year) every season.

The Warrick Dunn stat is a surprise to me.  The Freeman Macneil thing doesn't surprise me.
I don't think you could underrate Emmitt Smith - it seemed he was on every Monday Night and John Madden never broadcast a game in the 90's without mentioning his name 30 times. (I heard Emmitt cried when Madden left him for Brett Favre)   The big argument with Emmitt during his career was whether or not he was great or if he was the product of a great team.  That was sort of the basis for the Emmitt vs. Barry Sanders argument


Warrick Dunn was a solid rusher in the pros for a good run. Not surprised he's top 20.  He would have had at least 10-15 more touchdowns if he weren't on the team with Mike "touchdown vulture" Alstott.  The best thing about Warrick Dunn though, although he was a good a football player, he was a better guy.  The league needs more guys like that.
 
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