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2014-03-06 12:06:08 PM  
As mentioned before, is seems like no show on tv now has a weekly run, they stop and you have to hope to know when it is coming back on, even hbo and showtime throw in random 2 week breaks, why do shows that have completed production need breaks between episodes?

Also and ABC and NBC are terrible for this why start a show let it run for two episodes or so cancel it and replace it with reruns of shark tank or some other random show when they at least have new content they could run?
 
2014-03-06 12:07:54 PM  
There's just something about the Disney network where I just can't watch it. I've tried. I wander off bored.
 
2014-03-06 12:11:12 PM  

texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?


I think it's probably Kree, maybe Atlantean.  Sleeper pick would be Inhuman.  Either way, it seems Skye may be connected to them somehow.
 
2014-03-06 12:11:22 PM  

NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.


Technopath?  It's been done.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Good movie too.
 
2014-03-06 12:13:06 PM  

Far Cough: NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

Technopath?  It's been done.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 485x350]

Good movie too.


Ahhh...Ramona Flowers.  Swoon.
 
2014-03-06 12:14:03 PM  

Mentat: texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?

I think it's probably Kree, maybe Atlantean.  Sleeper pick would be Inhuman.  Either way, it seems Skye may be connected to them somehow.


I'd love me some Black Bolt but I'd rather they save him (and maybe the whole idea of Inhumans) for the movies.
 
2014-03-06 12:15:01 PM  

NeoCortex42: OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.

The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

I think the show started off okay. Lots of potential, but little of it realized. Since it started getting more serialized with the Clairvoyant plot, it's gotten a lot better. Hopefully, the whole plot line with that gets resolved this season, and a new big-bad is the focus next year. That would be a format that works.

Dollhouse was pretty bad when it started, but got great once the more serialized plot took over. At least with Shield, ABC/Disney will give it every possible chance to improve before pulling the plug.


But just hacking - other tech she's an idiot with. Otherwise she'd get the tech stuff Fitz does.
 
2014-03-06 12:15:33 PM  
Crotchrocket Slim

I'd love me some Black Bolt but I'd rather they save him (and maybe the whole idea of Inhumans) for the movies.

I think they kinda have to at this point, since (as I understand it) they don't really have any rights to mutants in the MCU, so inhumans is basically their fallback for that kind of thing.
 
2014-03-06 12:17:52 PM  

Far Cough: NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

Technopath?  It's been done.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 485x350]

Good movie too.


Oh Mary...
 
2014-03-06 12:20:58 PM  
Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.
 
2014-03-06 12:22:37 PM  

texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?



*SPOILERS*

I'm going with Kree since my personal theory is that Sky is a pink-skinned Kree whose parents fled to Earth. Ties in with Ronan being the big bad in Guardians of the Galaxy this summer; also explains why SHIELD has ultra-tech like the spider bot they used on Coulson and why infant Sky was considered to be an 'object of unknown origin' that required 2 full strike teams to secure.

Also, I'm putting down my money on the Clairvoyant being The Leader. They introduced the origin in the Ed Norton Hulk, Leader has world conquering ambitions, uses advanced tech for his armies, has some low-level mind control abilities, and is much easier on the FX budget than MODOK.
 
2014-03-06 12:23:11 PM  
The clairvoyant is probably MODOK,
 
2014-03-06 12:23:38 PM  
Simmons is hotter than Skye. She can act, too.
 
2014-03-06 12:23:39 PM  
Never seen the show, have no desire to see the show.
People want to watch shows about Superheroes. Not "agents".

Same reason the new show "Gotham" is gonna fail. You hear "Gotham" and you are like "OMG A BATMAN TV SHOW! THIS IS GONNA ROCK!" Except it doesn't have Batman in it. It has Bruce Wayne, but he's like 10. But all the villains he fights when he's older are already out there. Which makes no sense, since they are all around the same age as him. So when he gets older and fights them they are all gonna be like 50 or 60? 60-year-old Catwoman? That sounds hot....if you're into granny porn. Catwoman in this show is gonna be getting into some pedophile territory if she tries to start a love affair with Bruce Wayne. 30-year-old woman, 10-year-old boy. Also the show is about Commissioner Gordon, but he's not Commissioner Gordon. Fail all around.
 
2014-03-06 12:24:42 PM  

Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.


One theory I've seen is that the Clairvoyant is simply a high-level informant in SHIELD (possibly even Bill Paxton's character), which is why they know all the details about the teams, but don't know the super-secret resurrection stuff.

Personally, I'll be really disappointed if that's the case.  I'm hoping it's somebody with some sort of power, but I'm not sure how they'd do it without being able to use mutants.
 
2014-03-06 12:26:09 PM  

Dr.Zom: Simmons is hotter than Skye. She can act, too.


Her roleplaying scene with Coulson in the train episode was awesome.
 
2014-03-06 12:27:08 PM  

NeoCortex42: Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.

One theory I've seen is that the Clairvoyant is simply a high-level informant in SHIELD (possibly even Bill Paxton's character), which is why they know all the details about the teams, but don't know the super-secret resurrection stuff.

Personally, I'll be really disappointed if that's the case.  I'm hoping it's somebody with some sort of power, but I'm not sure how they'd do it without being able to use mutants.


Paxton is TOTALLY working for the Clairvoyant. But I don't think he IS the Clairvoyant.

I absolutely think it is a mole, or at least has a highly placed one.
 
2014-03-06 12:29:08 PM  

Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.


This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.
 
2014-03-06 12:32:49 PM  
that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing
 
2014-03-06 12:33:53 PM  

Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.


That there's an excellent hypothesis. I could get behind that.
 
2014-03-06 12:34:49 PM  
Skye fall?
 
2014-03-06 12:35:48 PM  

Kanemano: The clairvoyant is probably MODOK,


I thought of a few people it could be

one that I thought of that haven't seen anyone else mention is  The Mad Thinker
 
2014-03-06 12:36:27 PM  

Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.


But SHIELD is much bigger than super heroes.  They existed for 70 years without any heroes around and have only recently changed their mandate to reflect the rise of super powers.  The rest if SHIELD didn't go away just because Iron Man showed up, and that's the environment AoS exists in.  I'm ok with that.
 
2014-03-06 12:37:30 PM  

Grungehamster: EyeballKid: eddievercetti: it's ABCs fault.

Well, that didn't take long.

If those episode air dates posted above are correct, then it's really hard not to see that as fair criticism. In three months the show has only aired 6 episodes, and it's ostensibly a weekly show? It's only aired two consecutive weeks once so far, once with a one week delay, once with a two week delay, and twice with a three week delay.


Airing an episode on February 4th was probably a mistake, but they really can't win.  There's only 12 episodes for an 18-20 week spring season, so they can air repeats mixed in with new episodes and people will complain about the inconsistent airings.  Or, they could take a hiatus in December, January, and February and people will complain about the long hiatus.  Or, they can air episodes against the Olympics and people will complain that they left the show out to die against too great of competition.  There's really no right answer.

I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.

11/19
12/10
12/17
1/7
1/14
2/4
2/25
3/4
 
2014-03-06 12:37:57 PM  

Trik: that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing


In one of the official comics tie-ins, Black Widow captured the Leader and secured his projects.  He's last seen in a statis tank being studied by SHIELD scientists.  Obviously, that can be retconned away, but that's his "official" fate at the moment.
 
2014-03-06 12:38:03 PM  
Oh, I know.  The Clairvoyant is white Nick Fury from the 616 universe.  That's why he seems to know so much about how SHIELD operates.  Hopefully they get The Hoff to reprise the role.
 
2014-03-06 12:38:34 PM  

rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.


NCIS has been on air a bit longer and has a loyal audience built up at this point.
 
2014-03-06 12:39:23 PM  

Trik: that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing


I like that. good call on the GH thing. And, it gives them time to get up to GH325. If it was chitauri they wouldn't have been able to get that many variations in time to inject it into Phil.
 
2014-03-06 12:40:38 PM  

Nine Hundred and Eight: Kanemano: The clairvoyant is probably MODOK,

I thought of a few people it could be

one that I thought of that haven't seen anyone else mention is  The Mad Thinker


I've been saying he's Dr. José Santini (The Mad Thinker) for awhile now
Just not here
 
2014-03-06 12:41:54 PM  

Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.


They have been, but in a small role.

Deathlok, Thor berserker artifacts, the healing stuff from Iron Man 3.

It's there, but not as characters -or the characters that are there aren't the known version yet.
 
2014-03-06 12:43:37 PM  
The show is such a waste.  The porn star quality acting really kills it.   Too bad.   It could have been working in conjunction with the movies.   Expanding on things that happen in the movies or are mentioned.  How cool would it have been if Coulson is briefing Captain America about the whereabouts of The Winter Soldier in movie, and have tv episodes where they are trying to track him down and do surveillance?  Instead we get the Skye show.  I was happy when she got shot.  But got annoyed when the brought her back and made a whole episode trying to convince us she isn't useless.  I groaned every time they said "if Skye was here" in the last episode.
 
2014-03-06 12:44:25 PM  
Another thing, the marvel cinematic universe is supposedly mostly based on the ultimate universe
In that universe there was a hulk previous to banner and a clone that I know of
 
2014-03-06 12:46:55 PM  
G

Deneb81: Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.

They have been, but in a small role.

Deathlok, Thor berserker artifacts, the healing stuff from Iron Man 3.

It's there, but not as characters -or the characters that are there aren't the known version yet.


The villains Graviton and blizzard both had whole episodes dedicated to setting up their origins as well

Though Graviton is a pretty big villain for Shield agents to face...
 
2014-03-06 12:47:26 PM  

NeoCortex42: eddievercetti: The show has a 2 week break, shows new episode then takes the whole month off thanks to the Olympics and now is catching up to have their show connected to Cap 2.

Well, they ran a Thor episode when the movie came out, with another one next week that corresponds to the DVD release. Then there's the 'Uprising' subtitle that showed up for the next episode preview that I'm guessing is the start of a Cap 2 tie-in.

ABC will never cancel this show as long as they have a guaranteed 60-minute infomercial for their major film franchises.


I'm thinking this. Part of me wonders why Joss Whedon would ever develop another show for tv again (even though Buffy did very well). But then, Disney owns the network, and Marvel is kicking ass. I think they'll give the show a few more chances. Assuming they stop messing with the airing of the episodes. Seriously, why order a show if you can't air it regularly?
 
2014-03-06 12:48:33 PM  

WillofJ2: As mentioned before, is seems like no show on tv now has a weekly run, they stop and you have to hope to know when it is coming back on, even hbo and showtime throw in random 2 week breaks, why do shows that have completed production need breaks between episodes?


The premium networks usually only take breaks to avoid big events or holidays, like when True Detective took a week off so they didn't have to air against the Super Bowl.  For broadcast networks, the biggest reason is because they're still beholden to their affiliates, who do their ratings measurements in November, February, and May (sweeps).  So the networks want to have new episodes airing during those months to help boost their affiliates' ratings.  Unfortunately, this results in a broadcast television season that's 36 weeks long while most shows only air 22-24 episodes.  So there will need to be some breaks in between episodes.

The only other option really is to go to more of a cable model with shorter seasons, airing one show in the fall and another in the spring.  I think Fox is going to be doing a little bit of this next season, but I'm not sure how much yet.

Also and ABC and NBC are terrible for this why start a show let it run for two episodes or so cancel it and replace it with reruns of shark tank or some other random show when they at least have new content they could run?

Because the networks make money by selling advertising and, more importantly, they sell advertising based on a certain rating point for a show.  So when ABC sells ads for, say, "Mind Games," they might promise the advertiser a 1.0 rating for the episode in exchange for say $50,000 for a 30-second ad (completely made up numbers).  If the episode comes in at a 0.6 (which "Mind Games" did on Tuesday), they now have to give that advertiser a "make-good," or an ad in a higher-rated show to make up for not making their promise.  So they may have received $50,000 for that ad but end up having to give them a $75,000 ad space instead.  Multiply that by 30 ads in an hour and the money really ads up.  They're better off replacing the show with repeats that will bring in less money in ad revenue, but won't cost them ad revenue elsewhere.
 
2014-03-06 12:49:40 PM  
If SHIELD was worth watching, people take the trouble to find out when it airs. How hard it is to go to TV Guide's website and see what's on tonight?
 
2014-03-06 12:50:21 PM  

ViciousX: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

I've enjoyed Joss's work. Loved Buffy, Angel, Firefly. Didn't care for Dollhouse. Loved The Avengers. Loved his "Much Ado About Nothing".

Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.


I concur!!!!!
 
2014-03-06 12:51:03 PM  

Deneb81: Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.

They have been, but in a small role.

Deathlok, Thor berserker artifacts, the healing stuff from Iron Man 3.

It's there, but not as characters -or the characters that are there aren't the known version yet.


Also Graviton / Dr. Franklin Hall who unknown to Shield is still alive in that black gravity stuff
 
2014-03-06 12:51:28 PM  

crotchgrabber: Trik: that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing

I like that. good call on the GH thing. And, it gives them time to get up to GH325. If it was chitauri they wouldn't have been able to get that many variations in time to inject it into Phil.



It's a good theory; the tube guy looked slightly too deformed to be a Kree, but they could be altering the Kree for the Marvel Cinematic universe so that they look more alien than 'humans with different colored skin'. Also, now that i think about it, if tube guy is a Kree and so is Skye, it would explain how there were no complications in using the serum on her while the process didn't go as smoothly on Coulson.
 
2014-03-06 12:51:43 PM  

Mentat: Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.

But SHIELD is much bigger than super heroes.  They existed for 70 years without any heroes around and have only recently changed their mandate to reflect the rise of super powers.  The rest if SHIELD didn't go away just because Iron Man showed up, and that's the environment AoS exists in.  I'm ok with that.


The biggest and frequent complaint about the show is lack of superheroes, but all along the advertising before the premiere the stated concept very clearly put forth was that it was about heroes that weren't super. They said that up front, but people are still disappointed. Also, the show is for the masses and intended to get ratings. You can't have that if the show is dealing with obscure people and references only a small number of people understand.

I like the show. It's an entertaining way to waste an hour a week.
 
2014-03-06 12:52:20 PM  

Ivandrago: This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.


There was a time I thought that, but now we have a Guardians of the Galaxy movie coming out that actually looks good, so.......
 
2014-03-06 12:52:28 PM  

NeoCortex42: Oh, I know.  The Clairvoyant is white Nick Fury from the 616 universe.  That's why he seems to know so much about how SHIELD operates.  Hopefully they get The Hoff to reprise the role.


That both intrigues and horrifies me. I fully supported the Nick Fury tv movie because I could see that if that did well the suits would be more willing to put money behind other things and we now have Marvel movies that are really fun to watch.  But the Hoff would want to make the show about HIM and that would be terrifying.  On the other hand it would be cool.
 
2014-03-06 12:53:08 PM  

Browncoat: If SHIELD was worth watching, people take the trouble to find out when it airs. How hard it is to go to TV Guide's website and see what's on tonight?


When it was advertised in my area all it would say is check your local listings
Not even what night it was on

That is piss poor advertising

And it cost me seeing a couple episodes
 
2014-03-06 12:54:33 PM  

ViciousX: Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.


Glee's ratings even worse than Agents of SHIELD, though Glee has been promised another year.
 
2014-03-06 12:55:06 PM  
We must save Skye even if we kill two people who were doing their jobs. It's the farking Skye show. The girl is a hacking expert who had no clue what a sandbox was, the first thing a "computer person" would have thought was keep it away from everything else.
 
2014-03-06 12:55:14 PM  

eddievercetti: OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.

It's her boobs.

/All she has is DULL SURPRISE


She has six layers of makeup that continually gets regenerated and eye lashes you could jump start a starship with.
 
2014-03-06 12:57:03 PM  
The clairvoyant is Ultron. It would explain all the access to all of shields files. Plus the tech that is being used by the ancillary bad guys.
 
2014-03-06 12:57:07 PM  

Walker: Never seen the show, have no desire to see the show.
People want to watch shows about Superheroes. Not "agents".

Same reason the new show "Gotham" is gonna fail. You hear "Gotham" and you are like "OMG A BATMAN TV SHOW! THIS IS GONNA ROCK!" Except it doesn't have Batman in it. It has Bruce Wayne, but he's like 10. But all the villains he fights when he's older are already out there. Which makes no sense, since they are all around the same age as him. So when he gets older and fights them they are all gonna be like 50 or 60? 60-year-old Catwoman? That sounds hot....if you're into granny porn. Catwoman in this show is gonna be getting into some pedophile territory if she tries to start a love affair with Bruce Wayne. 30-year-old woman, 10-year-old boy. Also the show is about Commissioner Gordon, but he's not Commissioner Gordon. Fail all around.


Gotham isn't a "Batman series," it's a "Jim Gordon series."  And the actress playing Selina Kyle and the actor playing Bruce Wayne are basically the same age.
 
2014-03-06 01:00:38 PM  

Dr.Zom: Simmons is hotter than Skye. She can act, too.


^THAT^
 
2014-03-06 01:03:03 PM  

Far Cough: NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

Technopath?  It's been done.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 485x350]

Good movie too.


Is that Lucy McClane?
 
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