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2014-03-06 11:01:36 AM
Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.
 
2014-03-06 11:13:06 AM
Remember when a show that was on every tuesday night was actually on every tuesday night?

That last episode like six weeks ago - T.R.A.C.K.S. - that was pretty good. I tuned in looking for the next one three times before I gave up and figured I'd catch it on-demand or via hulu or something.
 
2014-03-06 11:23:02 AM
No kidding.  They go to mid-season hiatus, bring it back for two episodes and then it disappears for a month.  It's almost like networks screw with Whedon shows for lulz.
 
2014-03-06 11:24:43 AM
11/26,
12/10,
1/7,
1/14,
2/4,
3/4

That's not a weekly show, that's a special once a month where you have to remember back three months to understand the story.

It'll probably be a much better show when you can watch all 16 episodes back-to-back via Netflix or DVD.
 
2014-03-06 11:27:21 AM

Diogenes: Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.


Seriously!  I just DVR it and am suprised when it shows up as new in the list.
 
2014-03-06 11:27:37 AM
I wanted to watch it, but I had company over. Now I have to wait a week to catch it on the ABC app because you have to be a cable subscriber to watch the newest episode.
 
2014-03-06 11:27:50 AM
Considering the insane timing the last 3 episodes had, it's ABCs fault.

Ironically, it'shiatting it's stride now.

/Deathlok
//Sif
///Kree?
 
2014-03-06 11:29:04 AM
And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...
 
2014-03-06 11:29:13 AM

eddievercetti: it'shiatting


Stupid fark, okay. It's becoming a good show right now.
 
2014-03-06 11:30:19 AM

eddievercetti: Considering the insane timing the last 3 episodes had, it's ABCs fault.

Ironically, it'shiatting it's stride now.

/Deathlok
//Sif
///Kree?


Definitely getting better.  Is the show with Sif going to air next week? Or do we have to wait another month?
 
2014-03-06 11:31:09 AM

eddievercetti: it's ABCs fault.


Well, that didn't take long.
 
2014-03-06 11:31:45 AM

EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...


I've enjoyed Joss's work. Loved Buffy, Angel, Firefly. Didn't care for Dollhouse. Loved The Avengers. Loved his "Much Ado About Nothing".

Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.
 
2014-03-06 11:32:12 AM
Meh. I want to like it. The women are hot, I like Marvel properties in general...but it just doesn't do it for me. I continue to watch it, as my wife has far more patience for television shows than I do, but it just isn't there. It's full of the same nonsensical Whedon tropes every Whedon series is, they don't use enough of their Marvel opportunities (even if just in reference), and it's just boring. Not on an individual episode basis, per se, but as a whole. It's going nowhere and it's a godsdamned waste of Coulton and Ming Na Wen.

But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
 
2014-03-06 11:32:52 AM

TNel: Diogenes: Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.

Seriously!  I just DVR it and am suprised when it shows up as new in the list.


Same here. Noticed last night "ooooh a  new A o S!"   I love my DVR hopper and I think AoS is actually getting better with each expisode. Except the previews for the next episode showed Askabar charectures comming into play....eh. I think the the whole Thor aspects hasn't added much to the fanchise.
 
2014-03-06 11:33:59 AM

Diogenes: Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.


At least my DVR may have grabbed it, I do hate the way they're jacking with the schedule, it's very foxish
 
2014-03-06 11:34:43 AM

EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...


Why is he still producing stuff on OTA networks?  His fanbase isn't gonna compete with Scandal or whatever's a network hit.  But his shows would be hits for SciFy.

/I'm not helping since I'm in the wait 'til DVD crowd
 
2014-03-06 11:36:30 AM
I can't figure out the schedule anymore.  It seems more frustrating these past two tv seasons than it was in the past to follow a show.
 
2014-03-06 11:37:20 AM
I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?
 
2014-03-06 11:37:22 AM

EyeballKid: eddievercetti: it's ABCs fault.

Well, that didn't take long.


If those episode air dates posted above are correct, then it's really hard not to see that as fair criticism. In three months the show has only aired 6 episodes, and it's ostensibly a weekly show? It's only aired two consecutive weeks once so far, once with a one week delay, once with a two week delay, and twice with a three week delay.
 
2014-03-06 11:38:18 AM
for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.
 
2014-03-06 11:38:34 AM
It's my fault, sorry guys.  Big Coulson fan, but I've only seen 1.5 episodes so far.  I'll get around to it.
 
2014-03-06 11:40:23 AM
Has there ever been a show that wasn't hard by a lengthy hiatus?
 
2014-03-06 11:42:16 AM

Grungehamster: EyeballKid: eddievercetti: it's ABCs fault.

Well, that didn't take long.

If those episode air dates posted above are correct, then it's really hard not to see that as fair criticism. In three months the show has only aired 6 episodes, and it's ostensibly a weekly show? It's only aired two consecutive weeks once so far, once with a one week delay, once with a two week delay, and twice with a three week delay.


And if I'm not mistaken an episode there was also aired out of order.

It was pretty bad to start, but the last few episodes have actually been entertaining. It's just been that the last three eps have been spread out over 2 months...
 
2014-03-06 11:43:38 AM

crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?


Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?
 
2014-03-06 11:45:35 AM

Wellon Dowd: Has there ever been a show that wasn't hard by a lengthy hiatus?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Walking_Dead_episodes

Of course those "half season" tricks AMC loves are planned and announced/advertised way in advance.
 
2014-03-06 11:45:46 AM

texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?


Kree was my guess.
 
2014-03-06 11:46:33 AM

AliceBToklasLives: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

Why is he still producing stuff on OTA networks?  His fanbase isn't gonna compete with Scandal or whatever's a network hit.  But his shows would be hits for SciFy.

/I'm not helping since I'm in the wait 'til DVD crowd


Wouldn't surprise me if it is more of a Marvel thing. Plus joss doesn't have much involvement in the show past the pilot episode.

The saddest part of this link is how few viewers B99 has.
 
2014-03-06 11:47:28 AM
Who actually thinks a mid season break followed by a single ep and then break for the olympics is a good idea?  Thank god my DVR has series record.
 
2014-03-06 11:47:47 AM

crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?


One of the bad guys from the Avengers movie.
 
2014-03-06 11:50:33 AM

ViciousX: Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.


To be fair, if you're such a big fan of Glee, you may not be this show's target audience...
 
2014-03-06 11:50:54 AM
You know, looking at those ratings across the board for Tuesday, everyone was terrible  It wasn't long ago that the 2.7 that NBC (!) led the night with would be last among the big 4 networks.  And third place, for a genre show crime procedural, opposite a structural similar crime procedural with a much more established, if dwindling, audience (NCIS) isn't too bad.
 
2014-03-06 11:51:33 AM

mrmaster: I can't figure out the schedule anymore.  It seems more frustrating these past two tv seasons than it was in the past to follow a show.


Tell me about it.  I watch a lot of television (there's some good stuff on now), and all the networks are going farking crazy with hiatuses this season.  Three weeks on, two weeks off, one week on, two weeks off - enough already!
 
2014-03-06 11:52:16 AM

Mentat: No kidding.  They go to mid-season hiatus, bring it back for two episodes and then it disappears for a month.  It's almost like networks screw with Whedon shows for lulz.


The writing is slowly coming along and still isn't quite where it should be, but even if it was this sort of shenanigans have killed shows that were out of the gate as awesome as they should be.

TV execs got no sense of history apparently.
 
2014-03-06 11:52:22 AM
Skye focused episodes are like Meg episodes on Family Guy.
 
2014-03-06 11:52:42 AM

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

One of the bad guys from the Avengers movie.


The Chitauri weren't blue.
static1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-06 11:54:49 AM

Grungehamster: Wellon Dowd: Has there ever been a show that wasn't hard by a lengthy hiatus?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Walking_Dead_episodes

Of course those "half season" tricks AMC loves are planned and announced/advertised way in advance.


I assume you mean the 2 years of half season but even with half seasons they are weekly shows.  AOS has rarely ever have back to back weeks.
 
2014-03-06 11:55:25 AM
Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.
 
2014-03-06 11:57:53 AM

OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.


It isn't being a decent actor either.
 
2014-03-06 11:59:58 AM
I just sent a whine to ABC about their shiatty programming using this feedback form 

http://abc.go.com/feedback
 
2014-03-06 12:00:02 PM
Her thing is being very pretty. She's good at it, IMO.
 
2014-03-06 12:00:21 PM

ViciousX: OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.

It isn't being a decent actor either.


Hey, not every actress hired to be a set of boobs can act too. Jeri Ryan is a notable exception, not the rule.
 
2014-03-06 12:00:36 PM
those who waited a month to see the next episode, please send your hate mail and death threats to the Olympic committee.

/If you don't have the contact information, just send it to your government representatives, who embezzled many tax dollars for your countries Olympics at the time.

//Cry babies who don't understand 'long running plot' from 'we want it all wrapped up in one hour, WHAAAAaaaAAAAaAaaaa'.
 
2014-03-06 12:00:47 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Mentat: No kidding.  They go to mid-season hiatus, bring it back for two episodes and then it disappears for a month.  It's almost like networks screw with Whedon shows for lulz.

The writing is slowly coming along and still isn't quite where it should be, but even if it was this sort of shenanigans have killed shows that were out of the gate as awesome as they should be.

TV execs got no sense of history apparently.


I believe their logic is that if the Marvel universe is such a powerful vehicle people should be tuning in to boost their other shows believing the show might be on. I'm sure they're laughing at how AMC wastes the potential of their line up: why do they only show the Walking Dead on Sundays on a set interval when they could just show Small Town Security, Game of Arms, or any of their other shows randomly every couple weeks to get everyone to watch those instead?
 
2014-03-06 12:01:24 PM

EyeballKid: eddievercetti: it's ABCs fault.

Well, that didn't take long.


No, I'm not a Whedon guy but the timing of episodes has been insane.

The show has a 2 week break, shows new episode then takes the whole month off thanks to the Olympics and now is catching up to have their show connected to Cap 2.

I feel ABC has not only farked over this show but pretty much their Tuesday lineup.

/Bright side, NCIS had low numbers too.
 
2014-03-06 12:02:28 PM

OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.


It's her boobs.

/All she has is DULL SURPRISE
 
2014-03-06 12:02:29 PM

OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.


The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

I think the show started off okay. Lots of potential, but little of it realized. Since it started getting more serialized with the Clairvoyant plot, it's gotten a lot better. Hopefully, the whole plot line with that gets resolved this season, and a new big-bad is the focus next year. That would be a format that works.

Dollhouse was pretty bad when it started, but got great once the more serialized plot took over. At least with Shield, ABC/Disney will give it every possible chance to improve before pulling the plug.
 
2014-03-06 12:03:10 PM

Diogenes: Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.


And it is getting better.  Of course I wanted to scream "Game Over, MAN!" at the TV this whole episode.
 
2014-03-06 12:05:22 PM

NeoCortex42: OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.

The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

I think the show started off okay. Lots of potential, but little of it realized. Since it started getting more serialized with the Clairvoyant plot, it's gotten a lot better. Hopefully, the whole plot line with that gets resolved this season, and a new big-bad is the focus next year. That would be a format that works.

Dollhouse was pretty bad when it started, but got great once the more serialized plot took over. At least with Shield, ABC/Disney will give it every possible chance to improve before pulling the plug.


Well let's hope they get serious about supporting it with scheduling at least- that seems like the thing that can the network can do that'll help the production staff and crew the most.
 
2014-03-06 12:05:22 PM

eddievercetti: Considering the insane timing the last 3 episodes had, it's ABCs fault.

Ironically, it'shiatting it's stride now.

/Deathlok
//Sif
///Kree?


Best filter win!
Also, I wholly agree, this was an episode that really hit on all cylinders, and looks to continue next week.
 
2014-03-06 12:06:03 PM

eddievercetti: The show has a 2 week break, shows new episode then takes the whole month off thanks to the Olympics and now is catching up to have their show connected to Cap 2.


Well, they ran a Thor episode when the movie came out, with another one next week that corresponds to the DVD release. Then there's the 'Uprising' subtitle that showed up for the next episode preview that I'm guessing is the start of a Cap 2 tie-in.

ABC will never cancel this show as long as they have a guaranteed 60-minute infomercial for their major film franchises.
 
2014-03-06 12:06:08 PM
As mentioned before, is seems like no show on tv now has a weekly run, they stop and you have to hope to know when it is coming back on, even hbo and showtime throw in random 2 week breaks, why do shows that have completed production need breaks between episodes?

Also and ABC and NBC are terrible for this why start a show let it run for two episodes or so cancel it and replace it with reruns of shark tank or some other random show when they at least have new content they could run?
 
2014-03-06 12:07:54 PM
There's just something about the Disney network where I just can't watch it. I've tried. I wander off bored.
 
2014-03-06 12:11:12 PM

texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?


I think it's probably Kree, maybe Atlantean.  Sleeper pick would be Inhuman.  Either way, it seems Skye may be connected to them somehow.
 
2014-03-06 12:11:22 PM

NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.


Technopath?  It's been done.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Good movie too.
 
2014-03-06 12:13:06 PM

Far Cough: NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

Technopath?  It's been done.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 485x350]

Good movie too.


Ahhh...Ramona Flowers.  Swoon.
 
2014-03-06 12:14:03 PM

Mentat: texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?

I think it's probably Kree, maybe Atlantean.  Sleeper pick would be Inhuman.  Either way, it seems Skye may be connected to them somehow.


I'd love me some Black Bolt but I'd rather they save him (and maybe the whole idea of Inhumans) for the movies.
 
2014-03-06 12:15:01 PM

NeoCortex42: OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.

The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

I think the show started off okay. Lots of potential, but little of it realized. Since it started getting more serialized with the Clairvoyant plot, it's gotten a lot better. Hopefully, the whole plot line with that gets resolved this season, and a new big-bad is the focus next year. That would be a format that works.

Dollhouse was pretty bad when it started, but got great once the more serialized plot took over. At least with Shield, ABC/Disney will give it every possible chance to improve before pulling the plug.


But just hacking - other tech she's an idiot with. Otherwise she'd get the tech stuff Fitz does.
 
2014-03-06 12:15:33 PM
Crotchrocket Slim

I'd love me some Black Bolt but I'd rather they save him (and maybe the whole idea of Inhumans) for the movies.

I think they kinda have to at this point, since (as I understand it) they don't really have any rights to mutants in the MCU, so inhumans is basically their fallback for that kind of thing.
 
2014-03-06 12:17:52 PM

Far Cough: NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

Technopath?  It's been done.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 485x350]

Good movie too.


Oh Mary...
 
2014-03-06 12:20:58 PM
Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.
 
2014-03-06 12:22:37 PM

texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?



*SPOILERS*

I'm going with Kree since my personal theory is that Sky is a pink-skinned Kree whose parents fled to Earth. Ties in with Ronan being the big bad in Guardians of the Galaxy this summer; also explains why SHIELD has ultra-tech like the spider bot they used on Coulson and why infant Sky was considered to be an 'object of unknown origin' that required 2 full strike teams to secure.

Also, I'm putting down my money on the Clairvoyant being The Leader. They introduced the origin in the Ed Norton Hulk, Leader has world conquering ambitions, uses advanced tech for his armies, has some low-level mind control abilities, and is much easier on the FX budget than MODOK.
 
2014-03-06 12:23:11 PM
The clairvoyant is probably MODOK,
 
2014-03-06 12:23:38 PM
Simmons is hotter than Skye. She can act, too.
 
2014-03-06 12:23:39 PM
Never seen the show, have no desire to see the show.
People want to watch shows about Superheroes. Not "agents".

Same reason the new show "Gotham" is gonna fail. You hear "Gotham" and you are like "OMG A BATMAN TV SHOW! THIS IS GONNA ROCK!" Except it doesn't have Batman in it. It has Bruce Wayne, but he's like 10. But all the villains he fights when he's older are already out there. Which makes no sense, since they are all around the same age as him. So when he gets older and fights them they are all gonna be like 50 or 60? 60-year-old Catwoman? That sounds hot....if you're into granny porn. Catwoman in this show is gonna be getting into some pedophile territory if she tries to start a love affair with Bruce Wayne. 30-year-old woman, 10-year-old boy. Also the show is about Commissioner Gordon, but he's not Commissioner Gordon. Fail all around.
 
2014-03-06 12:24:42 PM

Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.


One theory I've seen is that the Clairvoyant is simply a high-level informant in SHIELD (possibly even Bill Paxton's character), which is why they know all the details about the teams, but don't know the super-secret resurrection stuff.

Personally, I'll be really disappointed if that's the case.  I'm hoping it's somebody with some sort of power, but I'm not sure how they'd do it without being able to use mutants.
 
2014-03-06 12:26:09 PM

Dr.Zom: Simmons is hotter than Skye. She can act, too.


Her roleplaying scene with Coulson in the train episode was awesome.
 
2014-03-06 12:27:08 PM

NeoCortex42: Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.

One theory I've seen is that the Clairvoyant is simply a high-level informant in SHIELD (possibly even Bill Paxton's character), which is why they know all the details about the teams, but don't know the super-secret resurrection stuff.

Personally, I'll be really disappointed if that's the case.  I'm hoping it's somebody with some sort of power, but I'm not sure how they'd do it without being able to use mutants.


Paxton is TOTALLY working for the Clairvoyant. But I don't think he IS the Clairvoyant.

I absolutely think it is a mole, or at least has a highly placed one.
 
2014-03-06 12:29:08 PM

Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.


This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.
 
2014-03-06 12:32:49 PM
that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing
 
2014-03-06 12:33:53 PM

Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.


That there's an excellent hypothesis. I could get behind that.
 
2014-03-06 12:34:49 PM
Skye fall?
 
2014-03-06 12:35:48 PM

Kanemano: The clairvoyant is probably MODOK,


I thought of a few people it could be

one that I thought of that haven't seen anyone else mention is  The Mad Thinker
 
2014-03-06 12:36:27 PM

Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.


But SHIELD is much bigger than super heroes.  They existed for 70 years without any heroes around and have only recently changed their mandate to reflect the rise of super powers.  The rest if SHIELD didn't go away just because Iron Man showed up, and that's the environment AoS exists in.  I'm ok with that.
 
2014-03-06 12:37:30 PM

Grungehamster: EyeballKid: eddievercetti: it's ABCs fault.

Well, that didn't take long.

If those episode air dates posted above are correct, then it's really hard not to see that as fair criticism. In three months the show has only aired 6 episodes, and it's ostensibly a weekly show? It's only aired two consecutive weeks once so far, once with a one week delay, once with a two week delay, and twice with a three week delay.


Airing an episode on February 4th was probably a mistake, but they really can't win.  There's only 12 episodes for an 18-20 week spring season, so they can air repeats mixed in with new episodes and people will complain about the inconsistent airings.  Or, they could take a hiatus in December, January, and February and people will complain about the long hiatus.  Or, they can air episodes against the Olympics and people will complain that they left the show out to die against too great of competition.  There's really no right answer.

I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.

11/19
12/10
12/17
1/7
1/14
2/4
2/25
3/4
 
2014-03-06 12:37:57 PM

Trik: that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing


In one of the official comics tie-ins, Black Widow captured the Leader and secured his projects.  He's last seen in a statis tank being studied by SHIELD scientists.  Obviously, that can be retconned away, but that's his "official" fate at the moment.
 
2014-03-06 12:38:03 PM
Oh, I know.  The Clairvoyant is white Nick Fury from the 616 universe.  That's why he seems to know so much about how SHIELD operates.  Hopefully they get The Hoff to reprise the role.
 
2014-03-06 12:38:34 PM

rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.


NCIS has been on air a bit longer and has a loyal audience built up at this point.
 
2014-03-06 12:39:23 PM

Trik: that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing


I like that. good call on the GH thing. And, it gives them time to get up to GH325. If it was chitauri they wouldn't have been able to get that many variations in time to inject it into Phil.
 
2014-03-06 12:40:38 PM

Nine Hundred and Eight: Kanemano: The clairvoyant is probably MODOK,

I thought of a few people it could be

one that I thought of that haven't seen anyone else mention is  The Mad Thinker


I've been saying he's Dr. José Santini (The Mad Thinker) for awhile now
Just not here
 
2014-03-06 12:41:54 PM

Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.


They have been, but in a small role.

Deathlok, Thor berserker artifacts, the healing stuff from Iron Man 3.

It's there, but not as characters -or the characters that are there aren't the known version yet.
 
2014-03-06 12:43:37 PM
The show is such a waste.  The porn star quality acting really kills it.   Too bad.   It could have been working in conjunction with the movies.   Expanding on things that happen in the movies or are mentioned.  How cool would it have been if Coulson is briefing Captain America about the whereabouts of The Winter Soldier in movie, and have tv episodes where they are trying to track him down and do surveillance?  Instead we get the Skye show.  I was happy when she got shot.  But got annoyed when the brought her back and made a whole episode trying to convince us she isn't useless.  I groaned every time they said "if Skye was here" in the last episode.
 
2014-03-06 12:44:25 PM
Another thing, the marvel cinematic universe is supposedly mostly based on the ultimate universe
In that universe there was a hulk previous to banner and a clone that I know of
 
2014-03-06 12:46:55 PM
G

Deneb81: Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.

They have been, but in a small role.

Deathlok, Thor berserker artifacts, the healing stuff from Iron Man 3.

It's there, but not as characters -or the characters that are there aren't the known version yet.


The villains Graviton and blizzard both had whole episodes dedicated to setting up their origins as well

Though Graviton is a pretty big villain for Shield agents to face...
 
2014-03-06 12:47:26 PM

NeoCortex42: eddievercetti: The show has a 2 week break, shows new episode then takes the whole month off thanks to the Olympics and now is catching up to have their show connected to Cap 2.

Well, they ran a Thor episode when the movie came out, with another one next week that corresponds to the DVD release. Then there's the 'Uprising' subtitle that showed up for the next episode preview that I'm guessing is the start of a Cap 2 tie-in.

ABC will never cancel this show as long as they have a guaranteed 60-minute infomercial for their major film franchises.


I'm thinking this. Part of me wonders why Joss Whedon would ever develop another show for tv again (even though Buffy did very well). But then, Disney owns the network, and Marvel is kicking ass. I think they'll give the show a few more chances. Assuming they stop messing with the airing of the episodes. Seriously, why order a show if you can't air it regularly?
 
2014-03-06 12:48:33 PM

WillofJ2: As mentioned before, is seems like no show on tv now has a weekly run, they stop and you have to hope to know when it is coming back on, even hbo and showtime throw in random 2 week breaks, why do shows that have completed production need breaks between episodes?


The premium networks usually only take breaks to avoid big events or holidays, like when True Detective took a week off so they didn't have to air against the Super Bowl.  For broadcast networks, the biggest reason is because they're still beholden to their affiliates, who do their ratings measurements in November, February, and May (sweeps).  So the networks want to have new episodes airing during those months to help boost their affiliates' ratings.  Unfortunately, this results in a broadcast television season that's 36 weeks long while most shows only air 22-24 episodes.  So there will need to be some breaks in between episodes.

The only other option really is to go to more of a cable model with shorter seasons, airing one show in the fall and another in the spring.  I think Fox is going to be doing a little bit of this next season, but I'm not sure how much yet.

Also and ABC and NBC are terrible for this why start a show let it run for two episodes or so cancel it and replace it with reruns of shark tank or some other random show when they at least have new content they could run?

Because the networks make money by selling advertising and, more importantly, they sell advertising based on a certain rating point for a show.  So when ABC sells ads for, say, "Mind Games," they might promise the advertiser a 1.0 rating for the episode in exchange for say $50,000 for a 30-second ad (completely made up numbers).  If the episode comes in at a 0.6 (which "Mind Games" did on Tuesday), they now have to give that advertiser a "make-good," or an ad in a higher-rated show to make up for not making their promise.  So they may have received $50,000 for that ad but end up having to give them a $75,000 ad space instead.  Multiply that by 30 ads in an hour and the money really ads up.  They're better off replacing the show with repeats that will bring in less money in ad revenue, but won't cost them ad revenue elsewhere.
 
2014-03-06 12:49:40 PM
If SHIELD was worth watching, people take the trouble to find out when it airs. How hard it is to go to TV Guide's website and see what's on tonight?
 
2014-03-06 12:50:21 PM

ViciousX: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

I've enjoyed Joss's work. Loved Buffy, Angel, Firefly. Didn't care for Dollhouse. Loved The Avengers. Loved his "Much Ado About Nothing".

Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.


I concur!!!!!
 
2014-03-06 12:51:03 PM

Deneb81: Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.

They have been, but in a small role.

Deathlok, Thor berserker artifacts, the healing stuff from Iron Man 3.

It's there, but not as characters -or the characters that are there aren't the known version yet.


Also Graviton / Dr. Franklin Hall who unknown to Shield is still alive in that black gravity stuff
 
2014-03-06 12:51:28 PM

crotchgrabber: Trik: that thing in the tube

remember at the end of The Incredible Hulk that Sterns had cloned and experimented with the blood that Banner had been sending him
Shield would have ended up with that
I think the thing in the tube is the result of one of those experiments
GH = Grey Hulk or Gamma Humanoid
Most gamma touched have incredible healing factors
And that's what they're extracting from the thing in the tube
Instant healing

I like that. good call on the GH thing. And, it gives them time to get up to GH325. If it was chitauri they wouldn't have been able to get that many variations in time to inject it into Phil.



It's a good theory; the tube guy looked slightly too deformed to be a Kree, but they could be altering the Kree for the Marvel Cinematic universe so that they look more alien than 'humans with different colored skin'. Also, now that i think about it, if tube guy is a Kree and so is Skye, it would explain how there were no complications in using the serum on her while the process didn't go as smoothly on Coulson.
 
2014-03-06 12:51:43 PM

Mentat: Ivandrago: Tricky Chicken: for a show set in a superhero world about an agency that often deals with super heros, I expected...well, more superheros.

This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.

But SHIELD is much bigger than super heroes.  They existed for 70 years without any heroes around and have only recently changed their mandate to reflect the rise of super powers.  The rest if SHIELD didn't go away just because Iron Man showed up, and that's the environment AoS exists in.  I'm ok with that.


The biggest and frequent complaint about the show is lack of superheroes, but all along the advertising before the premiere the stated concept very clearly put forth was that it was about heroes that weren't super. They said that up front, but people are still disappointed. Also, the show is for the masses and intended to get ratings. You can't have that if the show is dealing with obscure people and references only a small number of people understand.

I like the show. It's an entertaining way to waste an hour a week.
 
2014-03-06 12:52:20 PM

Ivandrago: This is my main criticism. You have the whole of the Marvel universe to play with you don't take advantage of it. There are plenty of minor, ancillary super heroes and villain that will never, ever get a movie deal, so they should be used on the show.


There was a time I thought that, but now we have a Guardians of the Galaxy movie coming out that actually looks good, so.......
 
2014-03-06 12:52:28 PM

NeoCortex42: Oh, I know.  The Clairvoyant is white Nick Fury from the 616 universe.  That's why he seems to know so much about how SHIELD operates.  Hopefully they get The Hoff to reprise the role.


That both intrigues and horrifies me. I fully supported the Nick Fury tv movie because I could see that if that did well the suits would be more willing to put money behind other things and we now have Marvel movies that are really fun to watch.  But the Hoff would want to make the show about HIM and that would be terrifying.  On the other hand it would be cool.
 
2014-03-06 12:53:08 PM

Browncoat: If SHIELD was worth watching, people take the trouble to find out when it airs. How hard it is to go to TV Guide's website and see what's on tonight?


When it was advertised in my area all it would say is check your local listings
Not even what night it was on

That is piss poor advertising

And it cost me seeing a couple episodes
 
2014-03-06 12:54:33 PM

ViciousX: Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.


Glee's ratings even worse than Agents of SHIELD, though Glee has been promised another year.
 
2014-03-06 12:55:06 PM
We must save Skye even if we kill two people who were doing their jobs. It's the farking Skye show. The girl is a hacking expert who had no clue what a sandbox was, the first thing a "computer person" would have thought was keep it away from everything else.
 
2014-03-06 12:55:14 PM

eddievercetti: OreJen: Well, whatever Skye's thing is, we know it isn't healing.

It's her boobs.

/All she has is DULL SURPRISE


She has six layers of makeup that continually gets regenerated and eye lashes you could jump start a starship with.
 
2014-03-06 12:57:03 PM
The clairvoyant is Ultron. It would explain all the access to all of shields files. Plus the tech that is being used by the ancillary bad guys.
 
2014-03-06 12:57:07 PM

Walker: Never seen the show, have no desire to see the show.
People want to watch shows about Superheroes. Not "agents".

Same reason the new show "Gotham" is gonna fail. You hear "Gotham" and you are like "OMG A BATMAN TV SHOW! THIS IS GONNA ROCK!" Except it doesn't have Batman in it. It has Bruce Wayne, but he's like 10. But all the villains he fights when he's older are already out there. Which makes no sense, since they are all around the same age as him. So when he gets older and fights them they are all gonna be like 50 or 60? 60-year-old Catwoman? That sounds hot....if you're into granny porn. Catwoman in this show is gonna be getting into some pedophile territory if she tries to start a love affair with Bruce Wayne. 30-year-old woman, 10-year-old boy. Also the show is about Commissioner Gordon, but he's not Commissioner Gordon. Fail all around.


Gotham isn't a "Batman series," it's a "Jim Gordon series."  And the actress playing Selina Kyle and the actor playing Bruce Wayne are basically the same age.
 
2014-03-06 01:00:38 PM

Dr.Zom: Simmons is hotter than Skye. She can act, too.


^THAT^
 
2014-03-06 01:03:03 PM

Far Cough: NeoCortex42: The theory about her that I like is that her power is some sort of technomancy. When she does her "hacking", it's actually her power being used, but she doesn't realize that.

Technopath?  It's been done.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 485x350]

Good movie too.


Is that Lucy McClane?
 
2014-03-06 01:04:20 PM

Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.


Personally I'm hoping the Clairvoyant is engaging in some sort of remote-viewing stuff and somehow SHIELD found a way to neutralize that; I mean in the comics Doctor Doom's Doombot doubles are so good they can fool telepaths. From a science fiction perspective that would be massively more interesting.
 
2014-03-06 01:04:21 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: We must save Skye even if we kill two people who were doing their jobs.


I honestly expected them to be revealed to be LMD

Since they were the only people in a facility that large.

Also with how robotic they said the password phrase.

I guess they still could... because it looks pretty bad that they shot two agents who were doing their job...
 
2014-03-06 01:05:29 PM

Trik: Browncoat: If SHIELD was worth watching, people take the trouble to find out when it airs. How hard it is to go to TV Guide's website and see what's on tonight?

When it was advertised in my area all it would say is check your local listings
Not even what night it was on

That is piss poor advertising

And it cost me seeing a couple episodes


And why bother when you can wait for it to hit Netflix and watch a whole season at a time.
 
2014-03-06 01:08:44 PM
Well, maybe after its cancelled they can make a good movie to make up for the shiatty show.
 
2014-03-06 01:08:48 PM

Ima_Lurker: Trik: Browncoat: If SHIELD was worth watching, people take the trouble to find out when it airs. How hard it is to go to TV Guide's website and see what's on tonight?

When it was advertised in my area all it would say is check your local listings
Not even what night it was on

That is piss poor advertising

And it cost me seeing a couple episodes

And why bother when you can wait for it to hit Netflix and watch a whole season at a time.


I think the entire season is on OnDemand right now(free if you have cable).
 
2014-03-06 01:12:24 PM

45cal: The clairvoyant is Ultron. It would explain all the access to all of shields files. Plus the tech that is being used by the ancillary bad guys.


The only flaw I see in that is that Avengers 2 is a year and a half away. So, ether they'd be giving us Ultron way too early, or they're stretching out the Clairvoyant storyline to two years.
 
2014-03-06 01:13:05 PM
I'm pretty meh on the show so far. Though it does make me appreciate how good Arrow is (aside from the Lance family drama...gag)
 
2014-03-06 01:13:19 PM
I'll admit to being kinda...meh on this show at first (and I loved the Marvel movies) but the last...5 episodes have been really strong (the last 3 in particular) and I also feel like its gaining momentum with the focus on the Clairvoyant...what happened to the Girl in the Flowered Dress, I LOVE her, she needs to come back soon.

The GD scheduling is killing it along with Almost Human (dont get me started here...breaks and out of order episodes and...GAH!)...though I'm pretty sure the whole Marvel thing will keep AOS afloat where all AH has is Karl Urbans pretty face....sorry...sidetracked.

Bill Pullman was a good addition...also wanted to yell "GAME OVER, MAN!" at the TV as soon as I saw him.

Agree with the previous poster who said Skye was a Kree...that would be why she didnt have the bad reaction to the drug like Coulson seemed to have.
 
2014-03-06 01:13:20 PM
On the  plus side low ratings will at least guantee an episode where Simmons, Skye and May will need to dress up in skimpy clothing in order to infultrate a brothel.
 
2014-03-06 01:16:46 PM
Shows just getting good! What awful scheduling though. I think it will pull through for a second season still.

Always a nice surprise to see it suddenly appear in my DVR
 
2014-03-06 01:17:53 PM

Mentat: But SHIELD is much bigger than super heroes.  They existed for 70 years without any heroes around and have only recently changed their mandate to reflect the rise of super powers.  The rest if SHIELD didn't go away just because Iron Man showed up, and that's the environment AoS exists in.  I'm ok with that.


I can't remember, does Homeland Security exist in this universe? In the comics SHIELD alternates between being a UN agency and the in-universe equivalent to the US Department of Homeland Security/maybe the DOD itself.
 
2014-03-06 01:21:06 PM
Oddly enough, when you take a reasonable show and schedule it as though you're deliberately playing a shell game with its viewers, the ratings tend to drop - which, in turn, gives the schedulers a reason to pull the show even though it's reasonable.
 
2014-03-06 01:22:46 PM

unlikely: 11/26,
12/10,
1/7,
1/14,
2/4,
3/4

That's not a weekly show, that's a special once a month where you have to remember back three months to understand the story.

It'll probably be a much better show when you can watch all 16 episodes back-to-back via Netflix or DVD.



This thread was over with this comment.

When will the damn TV networks learn that the age of them dictating show dates and times are over.  More people will watch it on Hulu, when it's convenient for them, on devices other than their TVs.

If god damn USA would have learned this lesson, Psych would not have had to end.  Instead they took the show, and went WAY TOO farkING LONG between seasons, then refused to let Hulu show more than like one or two episodes from some time earlier in the season.  Their target audience just sort of sat and waited for it to be available until we gave up.
 
2014-03-06 01:24:39 PM

IronJelly: unlikely: 11/26,
12/10,
1/7,
1/14,
2/4,
3/4

That's not a weekly show, that's a special once a month where you have to remember back three months to understand the story.

It'll probably be a much better show when you can watch all 16 episodes back-to-back via Netflix or DVD.


This thread was over with this comment.

When will the damn TV networks learn that the age of them dictating show dates and times are over.  More people will watch it on Hulu, when it's convenient for them, on devices other than their TVs.

If god damn USA would have learned this lesson, Psych would not have had to end.  Instead they took the show, and went WAY TOO farkING LONG between seasons, then refused to let Hulu show more than like one or two episodes from some time earlier in the season.  Their target audience just sort of sat and waited for it to be available until we gave up.


Psych is TV for Girly Mans
 
2014-03-06 01:25:11 PM
I guess so; haven't seen that one.  Probably shouldn't.

/unbreakable
 
2014-03-06 01:29:06 PM

Far Cough: I guess so; haven't seen that one.  Probably shouldn't.

/unbreakable


Whoops, was answering the Lucy McClane question.
 
2014-03-06 01:36:57 PM

IronJelly: If god damn USA would have learned this lesson, Psych would not have had to end. Instead they took the show, and went WAY TOO farkING LONG between seasons, then refused to let Hulu show more than like one or two episodes from some time earlier in the season. Their target audience just sort of sat and waited for it to be available until we gave up.


That's NBC for ya. Don't know if I should admit this, but I like Defiance, but it's taking way to long for season 2 so run a shiat show like Helix or more reality shows in it's place.
 
2014-03-06 01:37:39 PM

rugman11: WillofJ2: As mentioned before, is seems like no show on tv now has a weekly run, they stop and you have to hope to know when it is coming back on, even hbo and showtime throw in random 2 week breaks, why do shows that have completed production need breaks between episodes?

The premium networks usually only take breaks to avoid big events or holidays, like when True Detective took a week off so they didn't have to air against the Super Bowl.  For broadcast networks, the biggest reason is because they're still beholden to their affiliates, who do their ratings measurements in November, February, and May (sweeps).  So the networks want to have new episodes airing during those months to help boost their affiliates' ratings.  Unfortunately, this results in a broadcast television season that's 36 weeks long while most shows only air 22-24 episodes.  So there will need to be some breaks in between episodes.

The only other option really is to go to more of a cable model with shorter seasons, airing one show in the fall and another in the spring.  I think Fox is going to be doing a little bit of this next season, but I'm not sure how much yet.

Also and ABC and NBC are terrible for this why start a show let it run for two episodes or so cancel it and replace it with reruns of shark tank or some other random show when they at least have new content they could run?

Because the networks make money by selling advertising and, more importantly, they sell advertising based on a certain rating point for a show.  So when ABC sells ads for, say, "Mind Games," they might promise the advertiser a 1.0 rating for the episode in exchange for say $50,000 for a 30-second ad (completely made up numbers).  If the episode comes in at a 0.6 (which "Mind Games" did on Tuesday), they now have to give that advertiser a "make-good," or an ad in a higher-rated show to make up for not making their promise.  So they may have received $50,000 for that ad but end up having to give them a $75,000 ad s ...


Wow, thanks
 
2014-03-06 01:38:26 PM

spiral8: I'm pretty meh on the show so far. Though it does make me appreciate how good Arrow is (aside from the Lance family drama...gag)


Came here to say the exact same thing, right down to the family drama comment.  It seems that streak continues: DC does TV better than Marvel.  Marvel does motion pictures better than DC.  There are some exceptions, but generally it's true.
 
2014-03-06 01:39:48 PM

rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.


NCIS has been around since 2003 IIRC, so has a dedicated following.

AoS is what, still in it's first season.
 
2014-03-06 01:46:58 PM

I am Mayhem: I'll admit to being kinda...meh on this show at first (and I loved the Marvel movies) but the last...5 episodes have been really strong (the last 3 in particular) and I also feel like its gaining momentum with the focus on the Clairvoyant...what happened to the Girl in the Flowered Dress, I LOVE her, she needs to come back soon.


And Skye has gotten a minimum number of lines in the last 3 episodes. COINCIDENCE?

Honestly, the last episode was the best one of the series, and that's partially because Skye had ZERO lines and was limited to convulsing every 12 minutes. I wish they'd have let her perish, though. She's an awful character.

What ABC should have done was take Darcy Lewis from Thor (Kat Dennings) and place her on the team as the resident cute Mary Sue. At least she has some established background with superheroes and weird shiat that makes her somewhat qualified, plus she's hotter than Skye by about a million miles, and Kat is a far better actress than Chloe. Instead, Kat's being wasted on a dumb sitcom. I mean, if she's going to be on TV anyway, why not put her on a show where she would do some good?

For now, the obvious formula is:

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
+
Bill Paxton/any actor or character who doesn't suck
-
Chloe Bennet/Skye
=
Good Episode!
 
2014-03-06 01:49:47 PM

SpdrJay: Well, maybe after its cancelled they can make a good movie to make up for the shiatty show.


It's a good show now.
You just go back to watching your reality crap and be silent.
I be you think sports are unscripted, don't you?
 
2014-03-06 01:57:30 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: It's a good theory; the tube guy looked slightly too deformed to be a Kree, but they could be altering the Kree for the Marvel Cinematic universe so that they look more alien than 'humans with different colored skin'. Also, now that i think about it, if tube guy is a Kree and so is Skye, it would explain how there were no complications in using the serum on her while the process didn't go as smoothly on Coulson.


I'm going to go with the guy in the tube was Kree, and Skye is an Inhuman.  With Marvel's current Inhumanity crossover, it'll serve as a balancing point, as the whole Inhumanity run is supposed to be about normal people who wake up one day as superheroes.

Also, did anybody else catch the name of the dead guard?  "Bob"!  They killed Hydra-Bob!
 
2014-03-06 02:01:02 PM

lordargent: rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.

NCIS has been around since 2003 IIRC, so has a dedicated following.

AoS is what, still in it's first season.


So what should they have done?  Honest questions.  They could have

1) Aired episodes sporadically until the Olympics were over (like they did)
2) Taken a three month hiatus
3) Aired episodes against the Olympics

Those were their options and none are particularly good.  If you can think of something else, I'd love to hear it.
 
2014-03-06 02:07:11 PM

rugman11: lordargent: rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.

NCIS has been around since 2003 IIRC, so has a dedicated following.

AoS is what, still in it's first season.

So what should they have done?  Honest questions.  They could have

1) Aired episodes sporadically until the Olympics were over (like they did)
2) Taken a three month hiatus
3) Aired episodes against the Olympics

Those were their options and none are particularly good.  If you can think of something else, I'd love to hear it.


What's "not good" about airing against the Olympics?  There's hardly a smidge of overlap in the two target audiences, and many people have DVRs.  What, every other network is supposed to give up and go home during the Olympics?  Why draw even more attention to a big event by retreating and putting on crap?

/don't care
/didn't watch either thing
 
2014-03-06 02:10:00 PM

Far Cough: What's "not good" about airing against the Olympics?


Getting your ass handed to you in the ratings. Oh wait, that's already happening anyway.
 
2014-03-06 02:10:28 PM

ds615: SpdrJay: Well, maybe after its cancelled they can make a good movie to make up for the shiatty show.

It's a good show now.
You just go back to watching your reality crap and be silent.
I be you think sports are unscripted, don't you?


I really wanted to like it, but I'll have to disagree. It's not a good show. The main characters leave such an underwhelming impression that I couldn't even remember their names until the fifth episode or so. It could be a good show, either with better actors or better writing... but I'll be surprised if it gets picked up for a 2nd season. The only reason it might is because of Marvel's might behind it.
 
2014-03-06 02:19:08 PM

Grungehamster: Wellon Dowd: Has there ever been a show that wasn't hard by a lengthy hiatus?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Walking_Dead_episodes

Of course those "half season" tricks AMC loves are planned and announced/advertised way in advance.


USA Network pioneered the 'half season' with MONK and PSYCH, and frankly I think its a pretty good
idea.  You get 13 episodes in a block, then the show goes a way just long enough for you to start to
miss it, then its back.  Done right, I think it keeps interest in a show up without oversaturation.

Alas, the over the air networks don't think that way.  Fercrissakes, over the past couple of years they've
had repeats 3 weeks into the start of a new September season for a lot of shows, not just marquee shows
like AoS.  They seem to put out 2-3 shows at the start of the season, then hold them back until the November, February and May sweeps periods, to the detriment of the viewers.

Serial: RoyFokker'sGhost: It's a good theory; the tube guy looked slightly too deformed to be a Kree, but they could be altering the Kree for the Marvel Cinematic universe so that they look more alien than 'humans with different colored skin'. Also, now that i think about it, if tube guy is a Kree and so is Skye, it would explain how there were no complications in using the serum on her while the process didn't go as smoothly on Coulson.

I'm going to go with the guy in the tube was Kree, and Skye is an Inhuman.  With Marvel's current Inhumanity crossover, it'll serve as a balancing point, as the whole Inhumanity run is supposed to be about normal people who wake up one day as superheroes.


I like your theory for the mainline comic continuity, but it is very possible that the rights to the Kree and
the Inhumans might well be bundled up with the FANTASTIC FOUR package of rights, which is owned
(I believe) by 20th Century Fox.

Still, though:  the geography of Skye's backstory does fit in nicely with the location of Attilan, doesn't it?
 
2014-03-06 02:23:03 PM

Far Cough: What's "not good" about airing against the Olympics? There's hardly a smidge of overlap in the two target audiences, and many people have DVRs. What, every other network is supposed to give up and go home during the Olympics? Why draw even more attention to a big event by retreating and putting on crap?

/don't care
/didn't watch either thing


20-30 million people watch the Olympics every night.  For the most part, yes, every other network gives up and goes home during the Olympics.  Fox was an exception this year but neither CBS nor ABC aired much original programming for those two weeks.
 
2014-03-06 02:23:59 PM

Diogenes: Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.


This.

When shows dissappear and reappear without any logic even a great show* can lose viewers.

*  I am not saying SHIELD is a great show.
 
2014-03-06 02:27:51 PM

EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...


LOLWut?

Buffy was on for 6 years
Angel was on for 5 years
Firefly was tampered with by execs (shown out of order) and CLEARLY vindicated by later sales and the movie
Avengers broke sales records
Much Ado About Nothing was well reviewed


Can you list some of these "turds" you are talking about? Dollhouse is debatable for sure, but what else?
 
2014-03-06 02:32:57 PM
Not a single mention of AIM and all the mid-level baddies that ran it? Centipede is pure AIM.
 
2014-03-06 02:33:50 PM

SpectroBoy: When shows dissappear and reappear without any logic even a great show* can lose viewers.

* I am not saying SHIELD is a great show.


Marvel/ABC has been working around the standard holiday breaks and the Olympics, but they are also staggering the episodes so that they roughly coincide with DVD or theatrical releases. The show acts as an infomercial for their other properties. But so few people are watching I don't see how well that could be working for them.
 
2014-03-06 02:34:36 PM

rugman11: lordargent: rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.

NCIS has been around since 2003 IIRC, so has a dedicated following.

AoS is what, still in it's first season.

So what should they have done?  Honest questions.  They could have

1) Aired episodes sporadically until the Olympics were over (like they did)
2) Taken a three month hiatus
3) Aired episodes against the Olympics

Those were their options and none are particularly good.  If you can think of something else, I'd love to hear it.


Air repeats of the show, maybe starting with the first episode so people who missed earlier shows could catch them. Have an ad at the beginning and end of the repeats that shout "new episodes of AoS return on March 4!!!!!"

That might have worked.
 
2014-03-06 02:35:13 PM

Missicat: eddievercetti: Considering the insane timing the last 3 episodes had, it's ABCs fault.

Ironically, it'shiatting it's stride now.

/Deathlok
//Sif
///Kree?

Definitely getting better.  Is the show with Sif going to air next week? Or do we have to wait another month?


Well, at least it's not Doctor Who.  Having to wait almost a year between seasons (or, rather, HALF-seasons)... seriously, wth is up with that.
 
2014-03-06 02:37:25 PM

Browncoat: SpectroBoy: When shows dissappear and reappear without any logic even a great show* can lose viewers.

* I am not saying SHIELD is a great show.

Marvel/ABC has been working around the standard holiday breaks and the Olympics, but they are also staggering the episodes so that they roughly coincide with DVD or theatrical releases. The show acts as an infomercial for their other properties. But so few people are watching I don't see how well that could be working for them.


I guess that explains the mistake. But it still seems like a mistake.
 
2014-03-06 02:37:40 PM
It has been on hiatus so long that no one knew it was on. Most people thought it had been cancelled. ABC, if you want a regular audience, your show needs to air every week.
 
2014-03-06 02:43:36 PM

Saners: AliceBToklasLives: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

Why is he still producing stuff on OTA networks?  His fanbase isn't gonna compete with Scandal or whatever's a network hit.  But his shows would be hits for SciFy.

/I'm not helping since I'm in the wait 'til DVD crowd

Wouldn't surprise me if it is more of a Marvel thing. Plus joss doesn't have much involvement in the show past the pilot episode.

The saddest part of this link is how few viewers B99 has.


B99 is great and I have a weird thing for the secretary chick since she is so insane.
 
2014-03-06 02:43:54 PM

2wolves: Not a single mention of AIM and all the mid-level baddies that ran it? Centipede is pure AIM.


I assumed that many others had made that connection hence the MODOK mentions, but worth saying overtly all the same.
 
2014-03-06 02:44:48 PM

ajt167: The biggest and frequent complaint about the show is lack of superheroes, but all along the advertising before the premiere the stated concept very clearly put forth was that it was about heroes that weren't super. They said that up front, but people are still disappointed. Also, the show is for the masses and intended to get ratings. You can't have that if the show is dealing with obscure people and references only a small number of people understand.


It's failing to get the ratings (see TFA), so apparently heroes - super = fail.  Secondly, wrt references only some people will get, please see Arrow for a show that does it right.

AoS could be so much better if it just had a focus.  They've spent so much time world building that they seem to have forgotten they need an actual plot.  They also have so many damned mysteries going on, it's really gotten to the point of being annoying. We have Centipede, the Clairvoyant, Coulson's resurrection, Skye's origin, May's past, and now Deathlok and maybe aliens...it's too damned much.  They should have picked one central mystery and solved it through the season.  As it is, there is absolutely no way they can pay off all those mysteries without at least half being either dropped or solved in ridiculous ways.
 
2014-03-06 02:46:01 PM

xanadian: Missicat: eddievercetti: Considering the insane timing the last 3 episodes had, it's ABCs fault.

Ironically, it'shiatting it's stride now.

/Deathlok
//Sif
///Kree?

Definitely getting better.  Is the show with Sif going to air next week? Or do we have to wait another month?

Well, at least it's not Doctor Who.  Having to wait almost a year between seasons (or, rather, HALF-seasons)... seriously, wth is up with that.


Or Sherlock...waiting two years for three episodes???
 
2014-03-06 02:46:04 PM

Dr. Whoof: ajt167: The biggest and frequent complaint about the show is lack of superheroes, but all along the advertising before the premiere the stated concept very clearly put forth was that it was about heroes that weren't super. They said that up front, but people are still disappointed. Also, the show is for the masses and intended to get ratings. You can't have that if the show is dealing with obscure people and references only a small number of people understand.

It's failing to get the ratings (see TFA), so apparently heroes - super = fail.  Secondly, wrt references only some people will get, please see Arrow for a show that does it right.

AoS could be so much better if it just had a focus.  They've spent so much time world building that they seem to have forgotten they need an actual plot.  They also have so many damned mysteries going on, it's really gotten to the point of being annoying. We have Centipede, the Clairvoyant, Coulson's resurrection, Skye's origin, May's past, and now Deathlok and maybe aliens...it's too damned much.  They should have picked one central mystery and solved it through the season.  As it is, there is absolutely no way they can pay off all those mysteries without at least half being either dropped or solved in ridiculous ways.


You Make Them Sound...... Lost.
 
2014-03-06 02:46:50 PM

Browncoat: SpectroBoy: When shows dissappear and reappear without any logic even a great show* can lose viewers.

* I am not saying SHIELD is a great show.

Marvel/ABC has been working around the standard holiday breaks and the Olympics, but they are also staggering the episodes so that they roughly coincide with DVD or theatrical releases. The show acts as an infomercial for their other properties. But so few people are watching I don't see how well that could be working for them.


Sounds like this would be a solid marketing plan if it didn't mess up with any sort of investment the audience might have in the show which would further encourage them to watch, further making it likely they'll be successfully marketed to meaning Marvel can further advertise other properties to you making you more like to watch them and then tune back in next week to watch AoS to stay abreast of what's up in the universe etc.
 
2014-03-06 02:47:05 PM

Browncoat: SpectroBoy: When shows dissappear and reappear without any logic even a great show* can lose viewers.

* I am not saying SHIELD is a great show.

Marvel/ABC has been working around the standard holiday breaks and the Olympics, but they are also staggering the episodes so that they roughly coincide with DVD or theatrical releases. The show acts as an infomercial for their other properties. But so few people are watching I don't see how well that could be working for them.


Yup. Casual fans are loooong gone. We're down to hardcore Marvel lovers and comic book readers. ABC has already renewed AoS based on early numbers, but the store is empty now. It's fighting for 3rd place in its timeslot.
 
2014-03-06 02:50:37 PM

SpectroBoy: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

LOLWut?

Buffy was on for 6 years
Angel was on for 5 years
Firefly was tampered with by execs (shown out of order) and CLEARLY vindicated by later sales and the movie
Avengers broke sales records
Much Ado About Nothing was well reviewed


Can you list some of these "turds" you are talking about? Dollhouse is debatable for sure, but what else?


Firefly sucked. Dollhouse sucked. Agents of Shield sucks. Although, AOS is different because, apparently, Whedon does alright if somebody else has already done the storytelling part for him.
 
2014-03-06 02:58:51 PM

Nix Nightbird: Honestly, the last episode was the best one of the series, and that's partially because Skye had ZERO lines and was limited to convulsing every 12 minutes. I wish they'd have let her perish, though. She's an awful character.


Pretty much this. They should have let her die, and used that to propel the rest of the team forward with a darker edge. But somebody exec producing on that show really loves her.

There is an inverse relationship between how central Skye is to any given episode and how good that episode is. The show desperately wants us to like Skye, and it's not happening; partly because it's a crappy character, horribly written; partly because the show is trying so hard to foist her on us; and partly because of the poor acting. When the other characters have to keep telling us how wonderful Skye is and how important to the team even they've only known her a few weeks, you know the character is in trouble.

I suspect she was originally supposed to be the "normal" outsider that we viewers identify with as our proxy, discovering the SHIELD universe alongside us -- much like Gwen started out in Torchwood. But her motivation and conversion never felt credible, and it feels like they have been thrashing ever since it became obvious that we didn't much like her, throwing more backstory and angles at the character so that she has become less and less "normal" and less differentiated from the other characters (she has mad fighting skills now? WTF?).

And while the latest episode was better, it still had a mountain of plot holes: They discover the Most Secret Lab In The World out of nothing; just show up there, and easily hack their way in because the entire facility is protected by one lock and two people; kill a couple of guards who might well have been their own guys (don't they have any non-lethal disabling weapons?); steal exactly one thing; cause the whole thing to blow up; and then fly away, presumably agreeing never to speak of it again. So not only did they kill two people to save Skye, they deprived SHIELD of the technology that could have healed many more agents in the future. Nice work, guys.

At this point my feeling is that whatever ideas they originally had for how Coulson was revived and what Skye's role is have been thrown out, and they are desperately thrashing to come up with something that works. I'm not optimistic.
 
2014-03-06 03:07:12 PM
EyeballKid

Firefly sucked.

[thefireflycommunityfrownsuponyourshenanigans.jpg]
 
2014-03-06 03:08:05 PM

ViciousX: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

I've enjoyed Joss's work. Loved Buffy, Angel, Firefly. Didn't care for Dollhouse. Loved The Avengers. Loved his "Much Ado About Nothing".

Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.


It's NOT JOSS WHEDON! He only did the first episode, which was actually pretty good, but all the other episodes are done by his brother Jed Whedon; and in my opinion they aren't that good. I want to like it, but it just moves so freakin slow and the characters are pretty two dimensional. I won't be sad if it's cancelled, but I kind of hope there is a season two with new writers and directors, I think it could be a good show, it's just isn't being done right.
 
2014-03-06 03:15:41 PM
By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.
 
2014-03-06 03:15:45 PM

Facetious_Speciest: It's full of the same nonsensical Whedon tropes every Whedon series is


Problem for me is, I like the Whedon tropes (yes, even Whedonspeak).  But this seems to me like someone TRYING to do a Whedon show.  The Whedon tropes are like bland attempts at Whedon tropes.  And there is far too much violation of the "show, don't tell" principle, without sufficient justification.  So Skye is a supersmart hypercompetent hacker who is clearly born to be a SHIELD agent... and we know this because Coulson keeps saying so.  The team is a ragtag band of misfits who come together as family... because Coulson says so.  Skye is filled with deep inner turmoil regarding her parents and powerfully motivated to solve the mystery surrounding them... take her word for it.
 
2014-03-06 03:15:46 PM

ds615: SpdrJay: Well, maybe after its cancelled they can make a good movie to make up for the shiatty show.

It's a good show now.
You just go back to watching your reality crap and be silent.
I be you think sports are unscripted, don't you?


Nah, I'll be watching "Game of Thrones". THAT is a good show. Terrific acting, writing, directing. "Agents of SHIELD" isn't even competent TV.
 
2014-03-06 03:18:41 PM

czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.


The female half of FitzSimmons is far more attractive. Much better actor too.
 
2014-03-06 03:18:43 PM

ViciousX: ds615: SpdrJay: Well, maybe after its cancelled they can make a good movie to make up for the shiatty show.

It's a good show now.
You just go back to watching your reality crap and be silent.
I be you think sports are unscripted, don't you?

Nah, I'll be watching "Game of Thrones". THAT is a good show. Terrific acting, writing, directing. "Agents of SHIELD" isn't even competent TV.


I want it to be, and it is getting better.  But really, they are using c list actors and b list writers.  For great dialogue, you can't beat Justified.  For great stories despite the absurdity of the premise, you have Supernatural (which overcame a bad first season).  And then GoT which...has a writing problem too.  And an end goal problem.  But the best actors HBO can buy.
 
2014-03-06 03:18:54 PM

czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.


Good.

More for me, then.

I think she's dreamy.  Not a great actress, but not incompetant and very purdy.
 
2014-03-06 03:19:55 PM
Son of Thunder

Problem for me is, I like the Whedon tropes (yes, even Whedonspeak). But this seems to me like someone TRYING to do a Whedon show. The Whedon tropes are like bland attempts at Whedon tropes. And there is far too much violation of the "show, don't tell" principle, without sufficient justification. So Skye is a supersmart hypercompetent hacker who is clearly born to be a SHIELD agent... and we know this because Coulson keeps saying so. The team is a ragtag band of misfits who come together as family... because Coulson says so. Skye is filled with deep inner turmoil regarding her parents and powerfully motivated to solve the mystery surrounding them... take her word for it.

All I can really post in response is:

tjsands1118: It's NOT JOSS WHEDON! He only did the first episode, which was actually pretty good, but all the other episodes are done by his brother Jed Whedon...

Maybe Jed is just poorly trotting out his brother's playbook.
 
2014-03-06 03:21:31 PM

DjangoStonereaver: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

Good.

More for me, then.

I think she's dreamy.  Not a great actress, but not incompetant and very purdy.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-06 03:22:20 PM

DjangoStonereaver: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

Good.

More for me, then.

I think she's dreamy.  Not a great actress, but not incompetant and very purdy.


To be fair she's not been exactly given "acting" sorts of scripts.
 
2014-03-06 03:23:21 PM

Chris Ween: ViciousX: ds615: SpdrJay: Well, maybe after its cancelled they can make a good movie to make up for the shiatty show.

It's a good show now.
You just go back to watching your reality crap and be silent.
I be you think sports are unscripted, don't you?

Nah, I'll be watching "Game of Thrones". THAT is a good show. Terrific acting, writing, directing. "Agents of SHIELD" isn't even competent TV.

I want it to be, and it is getting better.  But really, they are using c list actors and b list writers.  For great dialogue, you can't beat Justified.  For great stories despite the absurdity of the premise, you have Supernatural (which overcame a bad first season).  And then GoT which...has a writing problem too.  And an end goal problem.  But the best actors HBO can buy.


GoT's writing is very sharp, and the end goal is only a problem if GRRM croaks... at this point he still has time with the books.
 
2014-03-06 03:24:41 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Maybe Jed is just poorly trotting out his brother's playbook.


Jed only got the gig because he's Joss's brother. Maurissa only got the gig because she's farking Jed.
 
2014-03-06 03:26:48 PM

Browncoat: Facetious_Speciest: Maybe Jed is just poorly trotting out his brother's playbook.

Jed only got the gig because he's Joss's brother. Maurissa only got the gig because she's farking Jed.


Nepotism at its finest.
 
2014-03-06 03:29:07 PM
Goldbergs is the best show on TV right now.
 
2014-03-06 03:29:59 PM

Nix Nightbird: What ABC should have done was take Darcy Lewis from Thor (Kat Dennings) and place her on the team as the resident cute Mary Sue.


ok, I fully support this line of thinking.  I stopped watching AoS about 4 episodes in, partly because it sucks and partly because Skye sucks worse.
 
2014-03-06 03:37:19 PM

Deneb81: NeoCortex42: Deneb81: Also - so the clairvoyant can see everything. Except anything having anything to do with Colson's resurrection?

I mean, the lab, the security guards, medical staff, Fury's involvement? None of that either?

I'd guess the Clairvoyant is someone with a lot of money, tech, and a back door into SHEILD systems and Colson's real job is to track them down. Which would be why Colson's operation isn't in official files, his team is mostly autonomous, and the Clairvoyant wants Skye dead - so she can't hack his system.

One theory I've seen is that the Clairvoyant is simply a high-level informant in SHIELD (possibly even Bill Paxton's character), which is why they know all the details about the teams, but don't know the super-secret resurrection stuff.

Personally, I'll be really disappointed if that's the case.  I'm hoping it's somebody with some sort of power, but I'm not sure how they'd do it without being able to use mutants.

Paxton is TOTALLY working for the Clairvoyant. But I don't think he IS the Clairvoyant.

I absolutely think it is a mole, or at least has a highly placed one.


OK, go guess I am not the only one thinking Bill Paxton is really a bad guy.....
 
2014-03-06 03:40:51 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Personally I'm hoping the Clairvoyant is engaging in some sort of remote-viewing stuff and somehow SHIELD found a way to neutralize that; I mean in the comics Doctor Doom's Doombot doubles are so good they can fool telepaths. From a science fiction perspective that would be massively more interesting.


They keep saying telepaths don't exist, but that doesn't rule it out.  It's probably tech though.  Remember how coms went down underground in that facility?  Maybe that's why what happened there remains unseen to the Clairvoyant.  Also, it wasn't a SHIELD base.
 
2014-03-06 03:41:13 PM

ViciousX: DjangoStonereaver: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

Good.

More for me, then.

I think she's dreamy.  Not a great actress, but not incompetant and very purdy.


img.fark.net

www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-03-06 03:42:35 PM

EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...


Some things to realize:

* Joss Whedon is only producing this show. His brother and sister-in-law are the showrunners

* Whedon has had one show that only lasted one season (Firefly). The rest lasted from 2-7 seasons.
 
2014-03-06 03:48:39 PM

The Billdozer: Saners: AliceBToklasLives: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

Why is he still producing stuff on OTA networks?  His fanbase isn't gonna compete with Scandal or whatever's a network hit.  But his shows would be hits for SciFy.

/I'm not helping since I'm in the wait 'til DVD crowd

Wouldn't surprise me if it is more of a Marvel thing. Plus joss doesn't have much involvement in the show past the pilot episode.

The saddest part of this link is how few viewers B99 has.

B99 is great and I have a weird thing for the secretary chick since she is so insane.


oh yes, quirk points

cdn.splitsider.com
 
2014-03-06 03:50:43 PM
I have to agree that the show is finally really hitting its stride. I like it a lot more now, and am finally looking forward to the next episode.

The last episode was good and..... Bill Motherfarking Paxton!!

And zombie juice? Want to know what THAT'S all about. Now that the show is getting good I have more to enjoy then just ogling "Suspiciously Hot Haxzor" and "Hot Secret Agent Asian Lady Who Holy Shiat is Like 50 IRL, Can You Believe That Shiat".
 
2014-03-06 03:50:50 PM

SpectroBoy: Buffy was on for 6 years


Yeah, season seven was pretty awful...
 
2014-03-06 04:22:14 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Maybe Jed is just poorly trotting out his brother's playbook.


Yeah, that's been my suspicion as well for what is behind my perception of the show as an attempt to do a Joss Whedon show.  I'd hate to be THIS much of a jerk, but I will say that I'm tempted to say that it seems like a lesser version of a Whedon show because it's being made by the lesser version of a Whedon.
 
2014-03-06 04:24:32 PM
Okay, I haven't read ALL the previous posts here so my apologies if this has been said already.

First, I really, really wanted this show to succeed.  I like Joss Whedon and have liked everything that he's done (that I've seen).  And it seems to me that Whedon was given instructions to "make it like Firefly but also like The Avengers but also like The X Files", and so on.  The show is schizophrenic.

AoS is basically Firefly.

SHIELD super-plane = Serenity
Coulson = Capt. Mal
May = Zoe
Grant  = Jayne
Simmons (who is my favorite character on the show) = Kaylee
Fitz = Wash (this is maybe a stretch)
Skye = River Tam

The characters' personalities and the interrelationships between the characters are lifted directly from Firefly.  I was pleased to see that even Ron Glass got a small part in a couple pf episodes although in a much different character (maybe).

I have really liked the goofy sense of self-referential humor that AoS has displayed so far but this last episode was almost completely devoid of it.  This episode was just ... grim. And what was the deal with bringing in Bill Paxton as SHIELD's official thug to beat the living shiat out of their bad guy?  Yes, I get it: he is a very, very bad guy, but that really doesn't justify brutalizing him in captivity.  It's a comic book ferchrissakes!  The only funny line in the whole episode came as Paxton was doing his thing and asked Coulson if he agreed with something.  Coulson said "no!" and that made me laugh.

I was also disappointed that Simmons was so badly used in this episode.  Elizabeth Henstridge is delightful and very funny as Simmons but, again, she had nothing amusing to say or do here.

I really want AoS to succeed but Disney and ABC need to go back to the basics of what Whedon was able to do with his other shows: make them exciting and funny.  Make us care about the characters!
 
2014-03-06 04:28:03 PM
Dont worry next year they are supposedly bringing back Heros and I am sure they can dick us all over again.
 
2014-03-06 04:29:17 PM
img4.wikia.nocookie.net
It was a frost giant, people.
 
2014-03-06 04:34:26 PM

Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.


Ah, there we go.

Shield has most of the Marvel universe to work with. Why such an obsession with Thor?
 
2014-03-06 04:34:42 PM

Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.


A tiny one?  That torso looked awfully human-sized to me.  Another runt like Loki?

My money's on Kree.
 
2014-03-06 04:36:42 PM

texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?


Hard to tell without the penis.
 
2014-03-06 04:37:11 PM

NeoCortex42: Shield has most of the Marvel universe to work with. Why such an obsession with Thor?


Thor: Dark World is just out on DVD and Blu-ray.
 
2014-03-06 04:43:28 PM

Browncoat: NeoCortex42: Shield has most of the Marvel universe to work with. Why such an obsession with Thor?

Thor: Dark World is just out on DVD and Blu-ray.


I get that, but we already had the Berserker staff when Thor hit theaters, and we have the Thor-related plot coming next week.  It just seems like they could be showing some attention elsewhere.  Being the first season of the show, I think it really needs to show some more range to get people hooked on it.

At this rate, it's looking more and more like the group of Netflix series coming up are going to be the show that everyone wanted Agents of SHIELD to be in the first place.
 
2014-03-06 04:46:22 PM

NeoCortex42: At this rate, it's looking more and more like the group of Netflix series coming up are going to be the show that everyone wanted Agents of SHIELD to be in the first place.


If you want to watch a show that is what Agents of SHIELD should have been in the first place, watch Arrow.
 
2014-03-06 04:48:19 PM

Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.


That would tie things in with having Sif make an appearance quite nicely.
 
2014-03-06 04:51:41 PM

Browncoat: NeoCortex42: At this rate, it's looking more and more like the group of Netflix series coming up are going to be the show that everyone wanted Agents of SHIELD to be in the first place.

If you want to watch a show that is what Agents of SHIELD should have been in the first place, watch Arrow.


How about just watch Arrow anyway? Just sort of hoping they continue to mine people's rogue gallery outside of Batman's though (didn't mind how they handled Deadshot or Royal Flush Gang though).
 
2014-03-06 04:56:49 PM

Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.


Frost giants are too big. Bigger than that body.
 
2014-03-06 04:56:54 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Browncoat: NeoCortex42: At this rate, it's looking more and more like the group of Netflix series coming up are going to be the show that everyone wanted Agents of SHIELD to be in the first place.

If you want to watch a show that is what Agents of SHIELD should have been in the first place, watch Arrow.

How about just watch Arrow anyway? Just sort of hoping they continue to mine people's rogue gallery outside of Batman's though (didn't mind how they handled Deadshot or Royal Flush Gang though).


Yeah, they have done some cool stuff.  I am hoping the Solomon Grundy plotline gets resurrected.....
 
2014-03-06 04:58:54 PM

Zombie DJ: Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.

Frost giants are too big. Bigger than that body.


OK how about a baby frost giant?
 
2014-03-06 05:05:55 PM

NeoCortex42: Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.

Ah, there we go.

Shield has most of the Marvel universe to work with. Why such an obsession with Thor?


They have the Marvel Universe minus anything related to Spiderman, The Fantastic Four, and the
X-Men. That leaves them quite a lot to play with even still, but the Marvel Movieverse is a subset of the
comic universe.  That's why I don't think the body was a Kree (as I said above), but somehow having it
be a Frost giant makes a certain amount of in-story sense given that Coulson was 'killed' by Asgardian
techonology.  Where the people who ran got the thing, though, is possibly the question, given that it
wasn't a SHIELD facility.  I'm hoping it was run/founded by Arnim Zola myself.

Cynically, I'm sure they wrote the scripts with a strong eye to their release schedule, but I'd like to think
they they're also making a virtue of necessity and using AoS to tell the sort of less-than-epic scale
stories that consist of most issues of a given comic book series but that just can't be done justice to in
the course of a 2-21/2 hour film that must have lots of spectacle and flash/bang.
 
2014-03-06 05:06:08 PM

RyansPrivates: I am hoping the Solomon Grundy plotline gets resurrected.....


Obvious but nice, and I agree :)
 
2014-03-06 05:07:51 PM
   I just wish there was more SHIELD in Agents of SHIELD.  SHEILD is Nick Fury and the Howling Commandos on a massive flying helicarrier full of hover jets and flying cars and an army of militarized agents with weird sci-fi technology fighting against HYDRA. Instead we get some kids in a flying RV chasing after some generic evil rich guy.
 It's supposed to be like G.I. Joe and instead we get Scooby Doo.

 I wish Disney would spend some money and get Samuel Jackson to pop up every episode for a video briefing or something. Maybe they could land that stupid plane on the helicarrier every once in a while so we can see the real SHIELD and not just a bunch of guys in business suits in an office building in Canada.

 Or maybe they could get somebody not related to Joss Whedon to run the show.
 
2014-03-06 05:12:31 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Where the people who ran got the thing, though, is possibly the question, given that it
wasn't a SHIELD facility.  I'm hoping it was run/founded by Arnim Zola myself.


I like that idea.  I was wondering what the MCU would do with him.

I doubted that they'd be up for giving him the full torso-face treatment, until I saw this.
 
2014-03-06 05:20:08 PM

czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.


I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.

I...really didn't like the last episode.  Ya, Paxton was alright...but now we just have two (three if you count the black agent) "hardasses" on the plane.

I'm also sick of the only twist these idiot writers being able to write is "OMG THIS PERSON MIGHT DIE".  This is the 4th time in a dozen episodes.

Bennet also apparently does her best acting as a half-dead silent chick.


The only thing that would make my mind blown with awesomeness from this show is if it turned out deadpool was the clairvoyant and it showed him holding script in hand.  But instead its going to be someone lame like Fury's evil twin.
 
2014-03-06 05:25:33 PM

Trik: IronJelly:
If god damn USA would have learned this lesson, Psych would not have had to end.  Instead they took the show, and went WAY TOO farkING LONG between seasons, then refused to let Hulu show more than like one or two episodes from some time earlier in the season.  Their target audience just sort of sat and waited for it to be available until we gave up.

Psych is TV for Girly Mans


Did you ever see me claiming to be anything else?  But no, watching it on their dictated schedule is for Girly Mans.  Real men prefer to watch when we feel like watching.

Also, some episodes of the first season were stupidly funny with enough weed.
 
2014-03-06 05:28:10 PM

Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.


Kree.  They need something to reveal the week before Guardians of the Galaxy.

I really hate how that's basically what this show has come down to.  An advertisement for the movies.  Which is why I hope Arrow doesn't get tied into the movie universe.


If I wasn't lazy, and had photoshop skills, I'd photoshop that stupid tweet about Wonder Woman and GoTG, and change it to...

"Marvel's all like, look, this hacker chick is really a secret, and here's some fake Asgardians!  And DCs all like, "here's flash, suicide squad, and Harley farking Quinn"
 
2014-03-06 05:29:38 PM

Son of Thunder: DjangoStonereaver: Where the people who ran got the thing, though, is possibly the question, given that it
wasn't a SHIELD facility.  I'm hoping it was run/founded by Arnim Zola myself.

I like that idea.  I was wondering what the MCU would do with him.

I doubted that they'd be up for giving him the full torso-face treatment, until I saw this.


Also, more circumstantial evidence that it is Zola:  he was very familiar with Asgardian technology as The
Red Skull's chief scientist, and if anyone would have the carcass of a Frost giant lying around, he would.
 
2014-03-06 05:39:17 PM

hammer85: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.


That means Agent May is ALL MINE!!!

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-06 05:41:17 PM
It was fun for a few shows, some funny and interesting characters. I'd like to see something separate of the Marvel Universe though. Um, like, say, Firefly?

/runs
 
2014-03-06 05:51:18 PM

DjangoStonereaver: hammer85: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.

That means Agent May is ALL MINE!!!

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 397x595]


Yeah she can make you believe that 50 is the new 30
Have to see her nakey tho to see how dangly reality is
Shoehorning into tight clothes makes things look taunt
 
2014-03-06 05:59:00 PM

rugman11: lordargent: rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.

NCIS has been around since 2003 IIRC, so has a dedicated following.

AoS is what, still in it's first season.

So what should they have done?  Honest questions.  They could have

1) Aired episodes sporadically until the Olympics were over (like they did)
2) Taken a three month hiatus
3) Aired episodes against the Olympics

Those were their options and none are particularly good.  If you can think of something else, I'd love to hear it.


Aired new episodes during the Olympics (for people who DVR or don't care about the olympics)
Have a marathon after the Olympics (so the people who did watch the Olympics can catch up)
Continue with the season.
 
2014-03-06 06:03:59 PM

Trik: DjangoStonereaver: hammer85: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.

That means Agent May is ALL MINE!!!

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 397x595]

Yeah she can make you believe that 50 is the new 30
Have to see her nakey tho to see how dangly reality is
Shoehorning into tight clothes makes things look taunt


I too would like to confirm this... for... reasons. Yeah.
 
2014-03-06 06:04:21 PM

Trik: DjangoStonereaver: hammer85: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.

That means Agent May is ALL MINE!!!

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 397x595]

Yeah she can make you believe that 50 is the new 30
Have to see her nakey tho to see how dangly reality is
Shoehorning into tight clothes makes things look taunt


You sound 12.
 
2014-03-06 06:19:47 PM

hammer85: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.


Look at it this way: AoS has Skye, Arrow has Laurel and Thea.  There's plenty of suck on each show.

I...really didn't like the last episode.  Ya, Paxton was alright...but now we just have two (three if you count the black agent) "hardasses" on the plane.

I'm also sick of the only twist these idiot writers being able to write is "OMG THIS PERSON MIGHT DIE".  This is the 4th time in a dozen episodes.


They should let someone die in an episode.  The crying wolf should win once in a while.


The only thing that would make my mind blown with awesomeness from this show is if it turned out deadpool was the clairvoyant and it showed him holding script in hand.  But instead its going to be someone lame like Fury's evil twin.

They really, really need to make that happen.  That would be genius.  Pure genius, great payoff to fans, and an utter mind screw.  Who has the rights to Deadpool though?  Wasn't he in that abortive Wolverine film, as a mouth sewn shut patchwork mutant?
 
2014-03-06 06:23:56 PM
cousin-merle:
They keep saying telepaths don't exist, but that doesn't rule it out.  It's probably tech though.  Remember how coms went down underground in that facility?  Maybe that's why what happened there remains unseen to the Clairvoyant.  Also, it wasn't a SHIELD base.

My theory is the Clairvoyant is some sort of AI.    It's not psychic but it's got agents with cameras in their heads all over and probably can hack into other tech as well.  All it's doing is forming projections based on collected data.

/Maybe it'll tie into Avengers 2 as a precursor to or as Ultron?
//Yeah, I doubt that too
 
2014-03-06 06:25:05 PM

Duck_of_Doom: They really, really need to make that happen.  That would be genius.  Pure genius, great payoff to fans, and an utter mind screw.  Who has the rights to Deadpool though?  Wasn't he in that abortive Wolverine film, as a mouth sewn shut patchwork mutant?


Deadpool is a mutant so yes Fox owns the rights to him.
 
2014-03-06 06:33:48 PM
Chloe Bennet = Eliza Dushku replacement.

/I give this many farks >< about the show
//really wanted to give more but I just don't find it interesting
 
2014-03-06 06:35:15 PM
Show gets great ratings when you incorporate DVR/Internet watching, which also includes ads there so it counts.  It's 2014, Nielsen ratings mean nothing any longer.

SHIELD has been getting progressively better and is free advertising for Marvel.  Remember who owns both ABC and Marvel, and you'll figure out that this show isn't getting cancelled.
 
2014-03-06 06:37:42 PM

Critch: It's 2014, Nielsen ratings mean nothing any longer.


The only people who think that are fanboys whose shows are getting clobbered in the ratings.
 
2014-03-06 06:38:17 PM

mokinokaro: Duck_of_Doom: They really, really need to make that happen.  That would be genius.  Pure genius, great payoff to fans, and an utter mind screw.  Who has the rights to Deadpool though?  Wasn't he in that abortive Wolverine film, as a mouth sewn shut patchwork mutant?

Deadpool is a mutant so yes Fox owns the rights to him.


Deadpool, is not a mutant.

But yes Fox does own the rights to him.
 
2014-03-06 06:46:58 PM
as long as perch faced Saffron Burrows doesn't show up again, I'm good
 
2014-03-06 06:53:49 PM

Trik: as long as perch faced Saffron Burrows doesn't show up again, I'm good


She's in the next episode, it was on the previews.
 
2014-03-06 06:57:21 PM

WillofJ2: As mentioned before, is seems like no show on tv now has a weekly run, they stop and you have to hope to know when it is coming back on, even hbo and showtime throw in random 2 week breaks, why do shows that have completed production need breaks between episodes?

Also and ABC and NBC are terrible for this why start a show let it run for two episodes or so cancel it and replace it with reruns of shark tank or some other random show when they at least have new content they could run?


I watch quite a few shows on HBO and Showtime, and the only time they have a week or two off is when something else major is occurring on that Sunday, like a Holiday or the Super Bowl. It's not "random" at all if you're paying attention.
 
2014-03-06 06:59:57 PM

ViciousX: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

I've enjoyed Joss's work. Loved Buffy, Angel, Firefly. Didn't care for Dollhouse. Loved The Avengers. Loved his "Much Ado About Nothing".

Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.


Or FOX can take it and merge it with Glee.

/singing superheroes!
 
2014-03-06 07:00:43 PM

KierzanDax: texdent: crotchgrabber: I like the show and wish it truly was weekly.

Can someone tell me what the blue half guy in the TAHITI tube is supposed to be?

Kree? Frost Giant? Doctor Manhattan?

Hard to tell without the penis.

Ack! You had to remind me of one of my main complaints with the Watchmen movie ― Doctor Manhattan's long schlong. The comic drew him having a very small penis for a reason. It was a vital part of his character that, despite godlike power and the ability to reform his body and alter it at will, he never did the first thing that nearly any man would do given such power. He didn't care about that because, even from the get-go, he was already disconnecting from humanity. That much.

DjangoStonereaver: NeoCortex42: Trocadero: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 531x315]
It was a frost giant, people.

Ah, there we go.

Shield has most of the Marvel universe to work with. Why such an obsession with Thor?

They have the Marvel Universe minus anything related to Spiderman, The Fantastic Four, and the X-Men. That leaves them quite a lot to play with even still, but the Marvel Movieverse is a subset of the comic universe.  That's why I don't think the body was a Kree (as I said above), but somehow having it be a Frost giant makes a certain amount of in-story sense given that Coulson was 'killed' by Asgardian techonology.  Where the people who ran got the thing, though, is possibly the question, given that it wasn't a SHIELD facility.  I'm hoping it was run/founded by Arnim Zola myself.

Cynically, I'm sure they wrote the scripts with a strong eye to their release schedule, but I'd like to think they they're also making a virtue of necessity and using AoS to tell the sort of less-than-epic scale stories that consist of most issues of a given comic book series but that just can't be done justice to in the course of a 2-21/2 hour film that must have lots of spectacle and flash/bang.

They may be too connected to the Fantastic Four, but I keep hoping that SHIELD requests the services of a certain expert in antimatter physics who just happens to have four pre-teens.
 
2014-03-06 08:02:20 PM

Diogenes: Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.


If my DVR wasn't programmed to record it, I wouldn't have known there was a new episode recently...

/ marketing fail
 
2014-03-06 08:04:26 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: I like Defiance, but it's taking way to long for season 2


Defiance is a summer show, right?

DjangoStonereaver: it is very possible that the rights to the Kree and
the Inhumans might well be bundled up with the FANTASTIC FOUR package of rights, which is owned
(I believe) by 20th Century Fox.


I think Marvel has all the aliens. At least, I've heard nothing otherwise.


-MAYBE these new episodes were filmed late enough they saw fan reaction and can use this resurrection to re-boot Skye's personality to something less terribad.
 
2014-03-06 08:06:36 PM

rugman11: I'd also point out that SHIELD's main competition, NCIS, has aired on a similarly awkward schedule and doesn't seem to be having the same problems.


Old people are pretty loyal to their TV shows....
 
2014-03-06 08:15:49 PM

OtherLittleGuy: ViciousX: EyeballKid: And, the Whedonites will soon be Jossplaining why this is different from the other turds he's managed to have cancelled in a year, and it's the network's fault that the show's doing poorly, and if they only put it in the right time slot.

Just saying, Whedonites, fool me 4 times...

I've enjoyed Joss's work. Loved Buffy, Angel, Firefly. Didn't care for Dollhouse. Loved The Avengers. Loved his "Much Ado About Nothing".

Agents of SHIELD sucks and I look forward to its cancellation with glee.

Or FOX can take it and merge it with Glee.

/singing superheroes!


thetorchonline.com
been done
 
2014-03-06 08:17:40 PM

Witty_Retort: I think Marvel has all the aliens. At least, I've heard nothing otherwise.


Ronan is in Guardians of the Galaxy, and Disney has the rights to Inhumans.
 
2014-03-06 08:27:53 PM

Witty_Retort: I think Marvel has all the aliens. At least, I've heard nothing otherwise.


I've heard that Fox might have the rights to the Skrulls, but it's only really rumours until we see either company use them.
 
2014-03-06 08:33:00 PM

Trik: DjangoStonereaver: hammer85: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.

That means Agent May is ALL MINE!!!

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 397x595]

Yeah she can make you believe that 50 is the new 30
Have to see her nakey tho to see how dangly reality is
Shoehorning into tight clothes makes things look taunt


At 50 mumblymumbly years old myself I thinks she's very attractive.
 
2014-03-06 08:35:05 PM

mokinokaro: Witty_Retort: I think Marvel has all the aliens. At least, I've heard nothing otherwise.

I've heard that Fox might have the rights to the Skrulls, but it's only really rumours until we see either company use them.


Hmm.......

That makes a fair amount of sense:  the Skrulls were always more of an FF-specific foe.....

And if, indeed, Ronan is in GotG.....

I just got a lot more interested in GotG.
 
2014-03-06 08:38:22 PM

Grungehamster: Wellon Dowd: Has there ever been a show that wasn't hard by a lengthy hiatus?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Walking_Dead_episodes

Of course those "half season" tricks AMC loves are planned and announced/advertised way in advance.


To be fair, The Walking Dead has to split their seasons because they start in October around Halloween, then halfway through the season they run into the holidays and then after those are done it is football post season, so they really can't come back until the week after the Super Bowl without losing some of their live audience to the playoffs. It sucks, but that's ad-supported TV for you.
 
2014-03-06 08:55:03 PM

TNel: Diogenes: Well shiat.  It's on so rarely no one knows when to watch it.

Seriously!  I just DVR it and am suprised when it shows up as new in the list.


Yeah, I only saw it because the DVR caught it and I saw it in the menu while queuing up Person of Interest.
 
2014-03-06 08:56:02 PM

xanadian: Missicat: eddievercetti: Considering the insane timing the last 3 episodes had, it's ABCs fault.

Ironically, it'shiatting it's stride now.

/Deathlok
//Sif
///Kree?

Definitely getting better.  Is the show with Sif going to air next week? Or do we have to wait another month?

Well, at least it's not Doctor Who.  Having to wait almost a year between seasons (or, rather, HALF-seasons)... seriously, wth is up with that.


UK austerity cuts leading to a slashed BBC budget, plus the cost of 3D cameras and upgraded effects for the 50th anniversary episode.
 
2014-03-06 10:23:28 PM
You expected them to air it against the Olympics?

/It is FINALLY going somewhere. All it took was doing something everyone wanted to do since the first episode.
 
2014-03-06 11:00:44 PM

mokinokaro: Witty_Retort: I think Marvel has all the aliens. At least, I've heard nothing otherwise.

I've heard that Fox might have the rights to the Skrulls, but it's only really rumours until we see either company use them.


Fox and Marvel Studios share the rights to the Skrulls, and Marvel has no intention of using them since they're tied to Fox as part of their Fantastic Four film rights and it could be messy. Marvel Studios also does not own the rights to the Badoon, Atlanteans (including Namor, who is at Universal Studios), and mutants. It's a sure bet they do not own the rights to the Brood or the Shi'ar, either, as they're both tied to the X-Men.

They do own the Inhumans, the Sakaarans, the Kymellians, and most other Marvel alien races. Their Marvel Cinematic Universe alternative to the Skrulls are the Chitauri. Obviously, they can freely use the Asgardians, Dark Elves, Asgardian Dwarves, Frost Giants, and other beings from the Nine Worlds.

They can use vampires, though, since they got Blade back.
 
2014-03-06 11:21:43 PM

Shadowtag: You expected them to air it against the Olympics?

/It is FINALLY going somewhere. All it took was doing something everyone wanted to do since the first episode.


Yeah, but then Skye got better.
 
2014-03-06 11:45:59 PM

Critch: Show gets great ratings when you incorporate DVR/Internet watching, which also includes ads there so it counts.  It's 2014, Nielsen ratings mean nothing any longer.

SHIELD has been getting progressively better and is free advertising for Marvel.  Remember who owns both ABC and Marvel, and you'll figure out that this show isn't getting cancelled.


Yeah, keep believing that. If the ratings don't start going up, next season will be the last.
 
2014-03-07 12:28:04 AM

Nix Nightbird: mokinokaro: Witty_Retort: I think Marvel has all the aliens. At least, I've heard nothing otherwise.

I've heard that Fox might have the rights to the Skrulls, but it's only really rumours until we see either company use them.

Fox and Marvel Studios share the rights to the Skrulls, and Marvel has no intention of using them since they're tied to Fox as part of their Fantastic Four film rights and it could be messy. Marvel Studios also does not own the rights to the Badoon, Atlanteans (including Namor, who is at Universal Studios), and mutants. It's a sure bet they do not own the rights to the Brood or the Shi'ar, either, as they're both tied to the X-Men.

They do own the Inhumans, the Sakaarans, the Kymellians, and most other Marvel alien races. Their Marvel Cinematic Universe alternative to the Skrulls are the Chitauri. Obviously, they can freely use the Asgardians, Dark Elves, Asgardian Dwarves, Frost Giants, and other beings from the Nine Worlds.

They can use vampires, though, since they got Blade back.


What the hell? i thought the Badoon were Avengers foes more often than not. By that reasoning Wolverine is tied up w/ the Hulk rights.
 
2014-03-07 12:51:08 AM

Trocadero: What the hell? i thought the Badoon were Avengers foes more often than not. By that reasoning Wolverine is tied up w/ the Hulk rights.


The Badoon were mentioned in the Thor:The Dark World comics tie-in, but I don't know if they can show up in the movies.
 
2014-03-07 02:02:11 AM

Mentat: Trocadero: What the hell? i thought the Badoon were Avengers foes more often than not. By that reasoning Wolverine is tied up w/ the Hulk rights.

The Badoon were mentioned in the Thor:The Dark World comics tie-in, but I don't know if they can show up in the movies.


According to Kevin Feige in a recent podcast, no. They would have liked them for GotG, but they had to go with Sakaarans.
 
2014-03-07 02:04:37 AM

Trik: DjangoStonereaver: hammer85: czetie: By the way, am I the only straight male on Fark who doesn't think that Chloe Bennet is particularly attractive? She's got this whole baby faced chipmunk think going on that does nothing for me.

I'd take Felicity or Simmons any day over Skye.

That means Agent May is ALL MINE!!!

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 397x595]

Yeah she can make you believe that 50 is the new 30
Have to see her nakey tho to see how dangly reality is
Shoehorning into tight clothes makes things look taunt


Worst. Haiku. Ever.
 
2014-03-07 02:05:53 AM
I've loved the show from its start and it's finally diving into its deeper story, and it's a compelling one.  It's a shame too, because a combination of ridiculous scheduling and poor advertising support post-premiere have had a lot to do with its decline.  Is it the most solidly written material ever?  Of course not, but many shows aren't in their first year, especially early on in that year.

So much time has to be spent on not only developing the characters but also setting up the foundation for its story arc.  That's not going to happen within the first couple of episodes; it requires at least half a season on CONTINUOUS weekly airings, not an episode here, then skip a week, then another 2, skip two weeks, two more, skip a month, etc.  As most television viewers have the attention span of squirrels, a series can't survive on that type of haphazard scheduling.  It can't build a fanbase and hook them with a story if the viewers can't be sure if it's even going to air!  And I'm not surprised its return didn't have higher ratings; I think I saw ONE advertisement for it in the past few weeks.  Way to go to bat for one of your shows, ABC.  Well done.

Again, the show isn't perfect; the characters needed more development and the show needed a more cohesive storyline.  But it's genuinely trying to achieve both; I've seen that more and more.  I just don't want to see ABC sweep the rug out from under it before it can really get into its groove when they're the ones mostly responsible for its low ratings to begin with.
 
2014-03-07 02:09:55 AM

No Line For Beer: TNel: Person of Interest.


Person of Interest is the #1 season pass on my Tivo.

// tivo ... set it and forget it
 
2014-03-07 02:57:47 AM
231 posts before I wake up and find the thread.

It's been so long since I've even attempted to watch any show regularly, that I'm not used to the long breaks between new shows.  I assume that the people watching in the evenings are at least getting reruns each week?  I'm asleep every single evening.

The early episodes were mostly unimportant, but with some new concept introduced that's important with later episodes.  Babylon 5's first season was a lot like that, though AoS has had a lot more cliffhanger endings already.  They're building for the long term, and it's been paying off, getting more and more interesting.
 
2014-03-07 03:29:16 AM

Son of Thunder: DjangoStonereaver: Where the people who ran got the thing, though, is possibly the question, given that it
wasn't a SHIELD facility.  I'm hoping it was run/founded by Arnim Zola myself.

I like that idea.  I was wondering what the MCU would do with him.

I doubted that they'd be up for giving him the full torso-face treatment, until I saw this.


Also, this tidbit in the Cap movie

cdn.screenrant.com
 
2014-03-07 03:37:25 AM

Qaiwolf: Son of Thunder: DjangoStonereaver: Where the people who ran got the thing, though, is possibly the question, given that it
wasn't a SHIELD facility.  I'm hoping it was run/founded by Arnim Zola myself.

I like that idea.  I was wondering what the MCU would do with him.

I doubted that they'd be up for giving him the full torso-face treatment, until I saw this.

Also, this tidbit in the Cap movie

[cdn.screenrant.com image 480x292]


I'm wondering if we'll see that in Winter Soldier.
 
2014-03-07 06:50:08 AM
Shows with not over the top super powers can be good. See: Alphas. That's not the problem with Agents...the problem is that it's boring. It's like the My Super Ex-Girlfriend of superhero movies. It doesn't seem to get what genre it is, or understand what creates dramatic tension or interest. They've taken the world of Marvel and turned it into tv that's good for watching while you fold laundry- which make no mistake, I'm pretty sure some shows are aiming for that place of background indifference because at least they're making money off advertisement. But...it's so ridiculous for this to be that show. Those shows you can make cheap, they can be generic. This should be interesting, unique and engaging and instead it feels bland and recycled.

Plus, as someone above mentioned, someone responsible for some important part of this show must be full on stalker in love with the girl who plays Skye and stealing her panties and framing them on his wall. It is the ONLY explanation for why they keep trying to force her on the audience over and over and trying to make it the SKYE (Isn't She So Amazing?) And Also I Guess Some Agents or Something Show even though she's overwhelmingly the least popular character and the show could be greatly and cheaply improved by killing her off.
 
2014-03-07 07:08:03 AM
I really don't quite understand the anti-Skye animosity.  Doesn't seem healthy.
 
2014-03-07 08:51:12 AM
My nerdy tendencies force me to watch SHIELD week after week hoping that it is going to get better but keep leaving disappointed.  Killing off Skye would have been the best move for the show, but for whatever reason they think she is a billable character.  Colson built a fan base because of the movies because he was just the normal guy trying to do his job in this world of superpowered beings.  They seem to be trying to force Skye into a similar role for viewers, trying to make her the character that the general viewer would most relate to but they just can't seem to pull it off.  Also, after this week's reveal I'm going to predict that the clairvoyant is going to be the Enchantress but I'm not willing to put money on it.

Anyway, as much as I liked Psych, it really has been going down hill the last few seasons.  What was it, like 2 years ago when they were supposed do be back in the fall but they delayed to February, then all of the episodes have become parodies of movies... they were seriously running out of ideas so yes, it is time to move on.
 
2014-03-07 09:43:20 AM

Nix Nightbird: They can use vampires, though, since they got Blade back.


A Blade/Morbius movie sounds pretty awesome.
 
2014-03-07 09:48:09 AM

Mad_Radhu: Grungehamster: Wellon Dowd: Has there ever been a show that wasn't hard by a lengthy hiatus?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Walking_Dead_episodes

Of course those "half season" tricks AMC loves are planned and announced/advertised way in advance.

To be fair, The Walking Dead has to split their seasons because they start in October around Halloween, then halfway through the season they run into the holidays and then after those are done it is football post season, so they really can't come back until the week after the Super Bowl without losing some of their live audience to the playoffs. It sucks, but that's ad-supported TV for you.


The difference here (aside from the obvious one of writing!) is that The Walking Dead splits its season in two, but there is really no break between episodes within a given split.  So they run ~8 or so episodes, then take the aforementioned time of, then run ~8 more, with  no breaks.  AoS has done:

5  episodes,
 break,
4 episodes,
break,
1 episode,
huge break (Xmas and new year),
2 episodes,
break,
1 episode,
huge break (one month!),
1 episode with 2 episodes left.

This works out to the same number of episodes as TWD (16), but done in the most crappy way possible. (once again, the writing isn't near as good on AoS).
 
2014-03-07 09:51:37 AM

Alphax: I really don't quite understand the anti-Skye animosity.  Doesn't seem healthy.


Same here
The actress started acting in 2012, has had 3 jobs including AoS
So she's a little green
But I'm wondering if her part is written as being a little awkward and the director pushes it that way
So that over time you can more readily see the team jelling
 
2014-03-07 11:05:31 AM

NeoCortex42: ABC will never cancel this show as long as they have a guaranteed 60-minute infomercial for their major film franchises.


This, over and over again.
 
2014-03-07 12:06:10 PM
Went home, thought it would be on the DVR, and I realize I forgot about the farking power outage on Tuesday, so I'll have to wait a week or more to catch up
 
2014-03-07 12:22:30 PM

IronJelly: Trik: IronJelly:
If god damn USA would have learned this lesson, Psych would not have had to end.  Instead they took the show, and went WAY TOO farkING LONG between seasons, then refused to let Hulu show more than like one or two episodes from some time earlier in the season.  Their target audience just sort of sat and waited for it to be available until we gave up.

Psych is TV for Girly Mans

Did you ever see me claiming to be anything else?  But no, watching it on their dictated schedule is for Girly Mans.  Real men prefer to watch when we feel like watching.

Also, some episodes of the first season were stupidly funny with enough weed.


First I've heard that Psych is unmanly.  It's the perfect goofy time waster to come across in reruns before bed late at night, which is the only circumstances under which I've seen it.  Enjoyed it every time.  Decently written, never takes itself seriously, surprising cameos and theme shows, and so so much better than all the other fake psychic shows.

Then again I haven't seen more than a couple of handfuls of episodes total.

/too bad Dule can't act though
 
2014-03-07 12:48:32 PM

Far Cough: IronJelly: Trik: IronJelly:
If god damn USA would have learned this lesson, Psych would not have had to end.  Instead they took the show, and went WAY TOO farkING LONG between seasons, then refused to let Hulu show more than like one or two episodes from some time earlier in the season.  Their target audience just sort of sat and waited for it to be available until we gave up.

Psych is TV for Girly Mans

Did you ever see me claiming to be anything else?  But no, watching it on their dictated schedule is for Girly Mans.  Real men prefer to watch when we feel like watching.

Also, some episodes of the first season were stupidly funny with enough weed.

First I've heard that Psych is unmanly.  It's the perfect goofy time waster to come across in reruns before bed late at night, which is the only circumstances under which I've seen it.  Enjoyed it every time.  Decently written, never takes itself seriously, surprising cameos and theme shows, and so so much better than all the other fake psychic shows.

Then again I haven't seen more than a couple of handfuls of episodes total.

/too bad Dule can't act though


Psych is a fun show, but it has gone on way past it's prime.  It should have probably ended at least a season or two ago.  It feels like it's running on fumes now, so it's probably for the best that this is its last season.  I'm still watching for the sake of finishing the show out, but the recent episodes don't hold a candle to the show in its prime.  My biggest gripe is that Shawn has gone from mostly being a "man-child" to "a complete dick".  He's completely unsympathetic as a character at this point.

As far as Psych being "unmanly", I can't say I get that.  It's no more unmanly than Community.  Also, who cares if a show is unmanly.  I'm not ashamed to say I enjoy Downton Abbey and Mad Men, and those are basically farking soap operas.
 
2014-03-07 02:15:09 PM

Trik: Alphax: I really don't quite understand the anti-Skye animosity.  Doesn't seem healthy.

Same here
The actress started acting in 2012, has had 3 jobs including AoS
So she's a little green
But I'm wondering if her part is written as being a little awkward and the director pushes it that way
So that over time you can more readily see the team jelling


It's not primarily about the actress. It's about the character, Skye.

The show apparently wants us to cheer for, admire, even identify with Skye as our gateway to the world of SHIELD, and she's just not written well enough to do that. It doesn't help that her motivation seems to be all over the shop (because the writers realized that their initial idea didn't stick?).

She's the archetypal Creator's Pet (WARNING: TV Tropes link!). Some people even think she's a Canon Sue, but that's harder to prove.
 
2014-03-07 05:18:47 PM

Trik: as long as perch faced Saffron Burrows doesn't show up again, I'm good


What happened to her since she left Criminal Intent? wowzers
 
2014-03-07 08:34:19 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Grungehamster: Wellon Dowd: Has there ever been a show that wasn't hard by a lengthy hiatus?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_episodes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Walking_Dead_episodes

Of course those "half season" tricks AMC loves are planned and announced/advertised way in advance.

USA Network pioneered the 'half season' with MONK and PSYCH, and frankly I think its a pretty good
idea.  You get 13 episodes in a block, then the show goes a way just long enough for you to start to
miss it, then its back.  Done right, I think it keeps interest in a show up without oversaturation.

Alas, the over the air networks don't think that way.  Fercrissakes, over the past couple of years they've
had repeats 3 weeks into the start of a new September season for a lot of shows, not just marquee shows
like AoS.  They seem to put out 2-3 shows at the start of the season, then hold them back until the November, February and May sweeps periods, to the detriment of the viewers.

Serial: RoyFokker'sGhost: It's a good theory; the tube guy looked slightly too deformed to be a Kree, but they could be altering the Kree for the Marvel Cinematic universe so that they look more alien than 'humans with different colored skin'. Also, now that i think about it, if tube guy is a Kree and so is Skye, it would explain how there were no complications in using the serum on her while the process didn't go as smoothly on Coulson.

I'm going to go with the guy in the tube was Kree, and Skye is an Inhuman.  With Marvel's current Inhumanity crossover, it'll serve as a balancing point, as the whole Inhumanity run is supposed to be about normal people who wake up one day as superheroes.

I like your theory for the mainline comic continuity, but it is very possible that the rights to the Kree and
the Inhumans might well be bundled up with the FANTASTIC FOUR package of rights, which is owned
(I believe) by 20th Century Fox.

Still, though:  the geography of Skye's backstory do ...


Lets just get this out of the way right now.

Marvel has the rights to the Kree, Marvel has the rights to the Skrull (Minus the Super-Skrull) and Marvel has the rights to the inhumans.
Theres a reason Marvel comics are placing the inhumans in the place the mutants used to, because they dont have the movie rights to the mutants.  

Hell the badguy in Guardians of the Galaxy is Ronan the Accuser. Hes a Kree.
 
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