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(TMZ)   NBC tells celebrities that if they appear on David Letterman or ABC's unfunny late-night talk show, they can forget about appearing on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Falon   (tmz.com ) divider line
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2014-03-06 06:52:21 AM  
And Hollywood immediately lines up all of their stars to go on every late-night show not on NBC.
 
2014-03-06 06:56:01 AM  
Oh No!  Now celebs won't have to fly across the country to New York, do a 15 minute spot and then fly back home to L.A. or Vancouver.
 
2014-03-06 08:16:23 AM  

Didn't Leno's agent get fired for this when he took over the Tonight Show (the first time)

I declare BUUULLLLLLshiat

 
2014-03-06 08:19:49 AM  
Helen Kushnick lives!
 
2014-03-06 08:20:11 AM  
NBC's a dick. Deeds not words....
 
2014-03-06 08:20:55 AM  
When did anyone except the extremely gullible start believing TMZ
 
2014-03-06 08:25:22 AM  
I doubt the movie stars want to be there anyway.
 
2014-03-06 08:30:32 AM  
he might still be able to get Matt Damon.
 
2014-03-06 08:34:34 AM  
*Snickers while looking into camera*
 
2014-03-06 08:34:36 AM  

Speaker2Animals: When did anyone except the extremely gullible start believing TMZ


They actually break a lot of stories and as far as tabloid sources go, they are the most trustworthy.

They are still garbage though, and this is really hard to believe considering this practice turned Leno's producer into a very well known cautionary tale.
 
2014-03-06 08:42:07 AM  

nakedcritic: Helen Kushnick lives!


Ding ding ding!
 
2014-03-06 08:45:51 AM  

LikeALeafOnTheWind: he might still be able to get Matt Damon.


You mean Justin Timberlake.
 
2014-03-06 08:46:39 AM  
And that would be undesirable, would it?
 
2014-03-06 08:50:57 AM  
Going on "Conan" is still okay then?

/Not like I was going to watch Fallon, but what are you thinking NBC?
 
2014-03-06 09:10:02 AM  
Their guest pool is going to get mighty small mighty fast.
 
2014-03-06 09:11:55 AM  

you are a puppet: Didn't Leno's agent get fired for this when he took over the Tonight Show (the first time)


Yep. And she didn't last too long after that.
 
2014-03-06 09:14:30 AM  
It will be just like when Carson had Charles Nelson Reilly on every week, because he lived half a block down the road and filled in whenever a guest dropped.
 
2014-03-06 09:39:20 AM  

Elvis_Bogart: Oh No!  Now celebs won't have to fly across the country to New York, do a 15 minute spot and then fly back home to L.A. or Vancouver.


The Tonight show is filmed in LA, the Late Night Show is filmed in NYC.  Unless they changed the location of filming to accommodate The Roots...
 
2014-03-06 09:48:17 AM  
The balls on this guy. NBC needs ratings like crazy. If they institute a policy of blackballing guests who appear on ABC and CBS, then they 1) deprive themselves of any number of A-list guests, and 2) the cast members on their low-rated, crappy network will no doubt themselves be denied promotional time on other networks.
 
2014-03-06 09:48:52 AM  

moistD: Elvis_Bogart: Oh No!  Now celebs won't have to fly across the country to New York, do a 15 minute spot and then fly back home to L.A. or Vancouver.

The Tonight show is filmed in LA, the Late Night Show is filmed in NYC.  Unless they changed the location of filming to accommodate The Roots...


It's back in NYC again now.
 
2014-03-06 09:52:35 AM  
I'm so torn.  I like Letterman, but I also want the opportunity to sit in a green room and get bumped by NBC because Jimmy's lip synching segment with Justin Timberlake ran 2 minutes over again.
 
2014-03-06 09:53:14 AM  

moistD: The Tonight show is filmed in LA,


No, they moved it to NYC. Which, of course, they refused to do for Conan.
 
2014-03-06 09:56:51 AM  
yeah, I don't see this sitting well with celebs...Fallon may have the ratings (for now), but let's see how high they are when the only guests he's able to book are the guy that played Lloyd on Scrubs and that one kid from youtube (pick one).
 
2014-03-06 10:01:01 AM  
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2014-03-06 10:01:56 AM  

chevydeuce: yeah, I don't see this sitting well with celebs...Fallon may have the ratings (for now), but let's see how high they are when the only guests he's able to book are the guy that played Lloyd on Scrubs and that one kid from youtube (pick one).


NBC went all-in for Fallon in a way they didn't for Conan. They pulled every star they could, and they must have been writing material for months.

I'm curious to see what the ratings will be 6 months or a year from now.
 
2014-03-06 10:07:25 AM  
It's "Fallon", Subby, as in "fallon his sword".
 
2014-03-06 10:13:40 AM  

Orgasmatron138: chevydeuce: yeah, I don't see this sitting well with celebs...Fallon may have the ratings (for now), but let's see how high they are when the only guests he's able to book are the guy that played Lloyd on Scrubs and that one kid from youtube (pick one).

NBC went all-in for Fallon in a way they didn't for Conan. They pulled every star they could, and they must have been writing material for months.

I'm curious to see what the ratings will be 6 months or a year from now.


From what I read, Lorne Michaels pretty much controls NBC after 11 PM now, so he made sure Fallon had a strong launch.
 
2014-03-06 10:30:10 AM  
I thought that the owners of the various talk shows had much more of a say over what guests go on which
show:

ABC would get Disney- (and, I believe, Sony-) backed stars.
NBC would get Universal-backed stars.
etc

And don't get me started about the syndicated shows, which are basically informercials at this point with
no pretense at being entertainment.
 
2014-03-06 10:45:28 AM  
This may have worked years ago when Carson was in charge and there were limited options. Today not so much, good job shooting yourself in the foot if this is true.
 
2014-03-06 10:52:52 AM  
That's fine, I'd rather be on Craig Ferguson anyway.
 
2014-03-06 10:53:31 AM  
I'm so sure AGT is going to keep stern off kimmel and letterman.
 
2014-03-06 10:55:34 AM  
cdn.stripersonline.com

/props to Radak


dj_spanmaster: That's fine, I'd rather be on Craig Ferguson anyway.


This
 
2014-03-06 10:57:17 AM  
NBC won't be able to keep Brian Williams off the Letterman show, they're going to tell some starlet any different?
 
2014-03-06 11:04:08 AM  
What happens if Fallon gets spotted in the same restaurant as Letterman or Jimmy Kimmel? Will NBC shackle him to his desk and never let him leave the set again?
 
2014-03-06 11:09:22 AM  

ChrisDe: NBC won't be able to keep Brian Williams off the Letterman show, they're going to tell some starlet any different?


Hell, they won't be able to keep Brian Williams off the Daily Show, and which of the three shows gets passed around the Internet more?
 
2014-03-06 11:14:02 AM  
Probably just posturing based on strong opening ratings.

With all of the entertainment options available nowadays, and more and more people switching over to streaming/on demand viewing, I wonder just how much in demand a variety show like this is going to be in the next generation, or the one after that.
 
2014-03-06 11:25:23 AM  

MmmmBacon: And Hollywood immediately lines up all of their stars to go on every late-night show not on NBC.


Done in one.
 
2014-03-06 12:03:06 PM  
That's okay. There's still the Colbert Bump.
 
2014-03-06 12:16:02 PM  
I really dont find fallon that entertaining, mind you I haven't found SNL too funny as an adult, Kimmels Humor of all of them seem to fit me the best I dont get Conan or Lettermans appeal that much either but Fallon just seem dumb-ed down
 
2014-03-06 12:59:04 PM  
Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon?  Really?
 
2014-03-06 01:22:41 PM  
I find Fallon unfunny. I really don't understand the appeal. I have great disdain for people who laugh at their own jokes.
 
2014-03-06 01:35:56 PM  

PreMortem: I find Fallon unfunny. I really don't understand the appeal. I have great disdain for people who laugh at their own jokes.


You just descibed his predecessor. I guess that's just how NBC rolls.
 
2014-03-06 02:03:59 PM  

PreMortem: I find Fallon unfunny. I really don't understand the appeal. I have great disdain for people who laugh at their own jokes.


One of the greatest SNL segments of all time, Matt Foley - Motivational Speaker, was (in part) hilarious because Farley was killing it so hard that Spade just couldn't keep from breaking a grin and almost burst out laughing.

It was a special moment because that doesn't usually happen, and it was genuine. Fallon ignored why it was so funny and just kept reusing the mechanism of just barely breaking character in way too many of his sketches.

However, he does actually strike me as someone who may be able to do some serious acting if he would drop his schtick. I just think his comedy sucks.
 
2014-03-06 04:10:16 PM  

you are a puppet: Didn't Leno's agent get fired for this when he took over the Tonight Show (the first time)I declare BUUULLLLLLshiat


No idea about Leno pulling the exclusivity stunt... but Carson totally did.  But he could because he was Johnny freakin' Carson.
 
2014-03-06 04:16:54 PM  

Orgasmatron138: PreMortem: I find Fallon unfunny. I really don't understand the appeal. I have great disdain for people who laugh at their own jokes.

One of the greatest SNL segments of all time, Matt Foley - Motivational Speaker, was (in part) hilarious because Farley was killing it so hard that Spade just couldn't keep from breaking a grin and almost burst out laughing.

It was a special moment because that doesn't usually happen, and it was genuine. Fallon ignored why it was so funny and just kept reusing the mechanism of just barely breaking character in way too many of his sketches.

However, he does actually strike me as someone who may be able to do some serious acting if he would drop his schtick. I just think his comedy sucks.


Breaking character and giggling in the middle of a skit is, for the most part, only a problem if the performers are the only ones laughing.
 
2014-03-06 09:32:03 PM  

DrBenway: Breaking character and giggling in the middle of a skit is, for the most part, only a problem if the performers are the only ones laughing.


The humor involved in cracking someone is inversely proportional to how often that person normally cracks. If it's someone like David Spade, Rachel Dratch or Stephen Colbert, people who usually manage to keep it together, it's a big deal when you manage to get to them. That's the only reason Debbie Downer got a second skit: you didn't know if the humor came from the material or from the sheer irony of Dratch cracking and taking the whole room with her in a skit called 'Debbie Downer', but you pretty much had to give it a second run to find out which one was the case. Turned out it was the latter.

When someone cracks all the time, though, Fallon, or Horatio Sanz, it's not nearly as funny. (Jon Stewart does this too, though the Daily Show writers do it intentionally sometimes; there have been at least a couple cases where the material used by the correspondents on the show was not the same as the material Stewart heard in rehearsals because they were straight-up trying to get to him.)
 
2014-03-06 10:05:11 PM  

Gosling: DrBenway: Breaking character and giggling in the middle of a skit is, for the most part, only a problem if the performers are the only ones laughing.

The humor involved in cracking someone is inversely proportional to how often that person normally cracks. If it's someone like David Spade, Rachel Dratch or Stephen Colbert, people who usually manage to keep it together, it's a big deal when you manage to get to them. That's the only reason Debbie Downer got a second skit: you didn't know if the humor came from the material or from the sheer irony of Dratch cracking and taking the whole room with her in a skit called 'Debbie Downer', but you pretty much had to give it a second run to find out which one was the case. Turned out it was the latter.

When someone cracks all the time, though, Fallon, or Horatio Sanz, it's not nearly as funny. (Jon Stewart does this too, though the Daily Show writers do it intentionally sometimes; there have been at least a couple cases where the material used by the correspondents on the show was not the same as the material Stewart heard in rehearsals because they were straight-up trying to get to him.)


According to what I've read, the David Spade incident was about the same.  Farley had done all the Matt Foley mannerisms during rehearsals, the weird postures, the glasses coming off, the hands in your face...  But apparently he saved the "hiking up his pants" thing for the show so he could get them going.  He knew if you could get a crack in the dam, everything he did after (even though they've already seen it a dozen times) was just going to make it worse.

It worked, too.  You can see the exact moment Spade and the rest of the cast started to slip was right after Farley hikes his pants up past his gut while squat-walking around like a troll.  Then he just took pleasure in torturing his cast mates into trying to hold it together.
 
2014-03-06 10:43:39 PM  
Because NBC makes intelligent decisions.
 
2014-03-07 01:30:37 PM  

downstairs: you are a puppet: Didn't Leno's agent get fired for this when he took over the Tonight Show (the first time)I declare BUUULLLLLLshiat

No idea about Leno pulling the exclusivity stunt... but Carson totally did.  But he could because he was Johnny freakin' Carson.


Carson didn't do that for most of his run he was the only game in town so he didn't need too. The tonight show was also 90 minutes until 1980ish which is another reason he didn't do it. That's a lot of time to fill.
 
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