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(NBC News)   Alzheimer's may be killing as many people as cancer. Well, at least Alzheimer's isn't killing as many people as cancer   (nbcnews.com) divider line 23
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2014-03-06 08:49:28 AM
But people will kill Alzheimer's and cancer what's your name again I want my pudding.
 
2014-03-06 08:53:07 AM
No one gives a shiat about Alzheimer's because of how many people it kills.  People care because it's a horrible way to die.  It turns people into Ronald Reagan, FFS.
 
2014-03-06 09:16:25 AM
Why has no one thought of this hilarious headline idea before?
 
2014-03-06 09:21:39 AM
But it isn't like they remember they are dead.
 
2014-03-06 09:28:17 AM
People live a long time with dementia. My stony-faced great grandmother sat around my grandparent's house for 20 years. (Early onset.)
 
2014-03-06 09:38:58 AM
One day you'll remember this
 
2014-03-06 09:41:19 AM

yakmans_dad: People live exist a long time with dementia. My stony-faced great grandmother sat around my grandparent's house for 20 years. (Early onset.)


FTFY

My Mom has Alzheimers/dementia and she exist she doesn't live
 
2014-03-06 09:45:19 AM
It is not like they will remember they are dead.
 
2014-03-06 09:49:29 AM
Deaths among people with Alzheimers =/= deaths due to Alzheimers. The study looked at people with Alzheimers, and attributed their higher death rate entirely to that particular disease.

cardiovascular disease and pneumonia are both more common proximate causes of death in patients with Alzheimer disease than dementia itself.

I haven't read the study in TFA yet, and perhaps they controlled for all the comorbid conditions that are common among Alzheimer's disease patients, but one easy way to find a 'deaths due to Alzheimers' rate higher than other people is to simply not include as many comorbid conditions in the model.
 
2014-03-06 09:50:12 AM
They eventually get to the not living stage.  The journey from person to near zombie is the ugly part.  Even if you are pretty sure the part that is you is fully in the brain, watching someone else's brain slip away from them is a horrible experience that I'd wish on exactly no one, and I only got to see it afar in my grandmother.  Odds are good, unfortunately, that I'll get to see it much closer up next time.

// don't get any ideas, cancer, you suck too.
 
2014-03-06 09:50:26 AM

draypresct: Deaths among people with Alzheimers =/= deaths due to Alzheimers. The study looked at people with Alzheimers, and attributed their higher death rate entirely to that particular disease.

cardiovascular disease and pneumonia are both more common proximate causes of death in patients with Alzheimer disease than dementia itself.

I haven't read the study in TFA yet, and perhaps they controlled for all the comorbid conditions that are common among Alzheimer's disease patients, but one easy way to find a 'deaths due to Alzheimers' rate higher than other people is to simply not include as many comorbid conditions in the model.


Fark threw away my link for my second paragraph: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/587075_2
 
2014-03-06 10:13:06 AM
Maybe they just won't remember that they are dead.
 
2014-03-06 10:21:29 AM
Thanks, lime disease.
 
2014-03-06 10:33:34 AM

DragonIV: They eventually get to the not living stage.  The journey from person to near zombie is the ugly part.  Even if you are pretty sure the part that is you is fully in the brain, watching someone else's brain slip away from them is a horrible experience that I'd wish on exactly no one, and I only got to see it afar in my grandmother.  Odds are good, unfortunately, that I'll get to see it much closer up next time.

// don't get any ideas, cancer, you suck too.


My grandmother has Alzheimer's. She didn't remember me the last time I visited her. I hope her misery ends soon, as its causing her children to fight with each other, and its draining my inheritance.
 
2014-03-06 10:40:41 AM
This thread looks familiar. Have I been here before?
 
2014-03-06 10:48:41 AM

raerae1980: DragonIV: They eventually get to the not living stage.  The journey from person to near zombie is the ugly part.  Even if you are pretty sure the part that is you is fully in the brain, watching someone else's brain slip away from them is a horrible experience that I'd wish on exactly no one, and I only got to see it afar in my grandmother.  Odds are good, unfortunately, that I'll get to see it much closer up next time.

// don't get any ideas, cancer, you suck too.

My grandmother has Alzheimer's. She didn't remember me the last time I visited her. I hope her misery ends soon, as its causing her children to fight with each other, and its draining my inheritance.



Wow.  Just wow.  Do you also get creeped out by homeless Jesus statues more than you do when you step over homeless people in NYC?
 
2014-03-06 10:54:39 AM

raerae1980: DragonIV: They eventually get to the not living stage.  The journey from person to near zombie is the ugly part.  Even if you are pretty sure the part that is you is fully in the brain, watching someone else's brain slip away from them is a horrible experience that I'd wish on exactly no one, and I only got to see it afar in my grandmother.  Odds are good, unfortunately, that I'll get to see it much closer up next time.

// don't get any ideas, cancer, you suck too.

My grandmother has Alzheimer's. She didn't remember me the last time I visited her. I hope her misery ends soon, as its causing her children to fight with each other, and its draining my inheritance.


you do realize that you are not entitled to an inheritance and only through the grace of your grandmother that you get anything.
 
2014-03-06 11:05:11 AM

Waldo Pepper: raerae1980: DragonIV: They eventually get to the not living stage.  The journey from person to near zombie is the ugly part.  Even if you are pretty sure the part that is you is fully in the brain, watching someone else's brain slip away from them is a horrible experience that I'd wish on exactly no one, and I only got to see it afar in my grandmother.  Odds are good, unfortunately, that I'll get to see it much closer up next time.

// don't get any ideas, cancer, you suck too.

My grandmother has Alzheimer's. She didn't remember me the last time I visited her. I hope her misery ends soon, as its causing her children to fight with each other, and its draining my inheritance.

you do realize that you are not entitled to an inheritance and only through the grace of your grandmother that you get anything.


Omg you people!! You misunderstand me. My parents are paying out of pocket for her expenses and its causing her children to fight, I mean, lawyers have been called. My mom told me yesterday that the money they had set aside for me is now being spent by grandma. Straight from my mom's lips! I never got an inheritance from grandma, so no expectations there. Does that clear things up? Its my parents money that is being used up, not grandma's. And they do not want it all to go to a nursing home.
 
2014-03-06 11:06:32 AM

raerae1980: My grandmother has Alzheimer's. She didn't remember me the last time I visited her. I hope her misery ends soon, as its causing her children to fight with each other, and its draining my inheritance.


BafflerMeal: Do you also get creeped out by homeless Jesus statues more than you do when you step over homeless people in NYC?


I get the feeling, though.  There are the memories of the person you once knew, and there's that breathing potato that's setting the family treasury on fire for having the nerve to not die well after the brain stopped working.  Keeping it alive is really just a Christian variation of taxidermy, and there are peeps in the fam that aren't in great financial shape.
 
2014-03-06 11:42:00 AM
There's no Alzheimer's ward at a children's hospital.
 
2014-03-06 12:29:54 PM
stuff like Alzheimers is when assisted suicide becomes the sanest thing you can do
 
2014-03-06 01:47:15 PM

Waldo Pepper: yakmans_dad: People live exist a long time with dementia. My stony-faced great grandmother sat around my grandparent's house for 20 years. (Early onset.)

FTFY

My Mom has Alzheimers/dementia and she exist she doesn't live


Lost two grandparents and have an an uncle with it.  This statement is true.  The problem is, for the most part, up until the end when someone loses the ability to swallow, Alzheimer's doesn't kill directly.  So death by Alzheimers really isn't entirely accurate.  Often it is death by other causes because the person doesn't eat properly, forgets meds, lives in a shiatty nursing home, etc.

Agree with the sentiments here on assisted suicide.  If I descend into that dark well, that's what i want for my good but mostly for my family's good.
 
2014-03-06 02:13:54 PM

raerae1980: Waldo Pepper: raerae1980: DragonIV: They eventually get to the not living stage.  The journey from person to near zombie is the ugly part.  Even if you are pretty sure the part that is you is fully in the brain, watching someone else's brain slip away from them is a horrible experience that I'd wish on exactly no one, and I only got to see it afar in my grandmother.  Odds are good, unfortunately, that I'll get to see it much closer up next time.

// don't get any ideas, cancer, you suck too.

My grandmother has Alzheimer's. She didn't remember me the last time I visited her. I hope her misery ends soon, as its causing her children to fight with each other, and its draining my inheritance.

you do realize that you are not entitled to an inheritance and only through the grace of your grandmother that you get anything.

Omg you people!! You misunderstand me. My parents are paying out of pocket for her expenses and its causing her children to fight, I mean, lawyers have been called. My mom told me yesterday that the money they had set aside for me is now being spent by grandma. Straight from my mom's lips! I never got an inheritance from grandma, so no expectations there. Does that clear things up? Its my parents money that is being used up, not grandma's. And they do not want it all to go to a nursing home.


I stand by my statement and simply swapping out your grandmother for your parents. You still are not entitled to your parents money.  If they choose to spend their money on CARING for one of their parents than that is a wonderful thing and you should be grateful for having such loving parents
 
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