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(Bleacher Report)   Ronda Rousey believes she could beat Floyd Mayweather. Well, if the promoter thinks that's what would make the most money, I guess anything is possible   (bleacherreport.com) divider line 127
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2014-03-06 06:41:51 AM  
Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.
 
2014-03-06 07:16:00 AM  

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.


You are correct, although I think she wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with Mayweather and trade punches. She'd duck in under a jab and get him off his feet, and if she managed to do that quickly, she would win. Boxers are excellent at their one discipline and Mayweather's at the top of his, but that doesn't mean they would do well fighting a person with multiple disciplines. I'd bet money that he's lose to any of the top MMA fighters unless he spent a LOT of time learning how to guard against being taken down.
 
2014-03-06 08:11:58 AM  
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
 
2014-03-06 08:13:21 AM  
OMG the Canadian women's hockey team would totally beat the Red Sox in a hockey game.
 
2014-03-06 08:16:52 AM  
From what I understand Floyd Mayweather is quite experienced in hitting women.
 
2014-03-06 08:17:29 AM  
Pretty sure subby was making a sports entertainment joke
 
2014-03-06 08:17:47 AM  
I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.
 
2014-03-06 08:20:52 AM  
At least she won't get hurt too badly, since she will only end up getting hit once.
 
2014-03-06 08:23:51 AM  
So, the guy who had to cheap-shot Victor Ortiz and uses bullshiat claims of PED use to run from Pacquiaouaie(sp?) is a bad-ass again? Or, just bad-ass enough to beat up a woman?
 
2014-03-06 08:30:24 AM  
Come on...we know this would never happen because Mayweather would insist on a ridiculous blood test and then when she finally agreed to take the test he would find some other excuse to not fight her.
 
2014-03-06 08:33:01 AM  
james toney
 
2014-03-06 08:33:31 AM  
Ronda Rousey is probably one of a few females who could rape you without the use of a strapon.
 
2014-03-06 08:36:58 AM  

TheManofPA: Pretty sure subby was making a sports entertainment joke


I was sports entertained
 
2014-03-06 08:41:42 AM  
I think so, too.

If it's a 'make a stupid looking mean mug every chance you get' contest.
 
2014-03-06 08:51:15 AM  
Beat or Beat off?
 
2014-03-06 08:53:54 AM  
I hate it when MMA turds get all mouthy about being able to crawl up to someone who would beat the shiat out of them on approach if they weren't specifically protected from being hit in the back of the head and neck.


Also like... "I'd just army crawl after him and he'd have to run away!"  Alright well... you know he can do that faster and with less energy used than you right? So even if we pretend that the MMA rules aren't protecting you from all the weaknesses of your stupid shiat, he could still just walk away until you get tired and beat the snot out of you.

Also I think its sweet that you think you're going to just keep one of the greatest boxers of all time from hitting you.  I mean really?  I'm sure you're good at what you do or whatever, but nobody has ever just kept Floyd Mayweather from punching them.  You're not gonna be the first.  Idiot.
 
2014-03-06 08:57:30 AM  

Langston: Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.

You are correct, although I think she wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with Mayweather and trade punches. She'd duck in under a jab and get him off his feet, and if she managed to do that quickly, she would win. Boxers are excellent at their one discipline and Mayweather's at the top of his, but that doesn't mean they would do well fighting a person with multiple disciplines. I'd bet money that he's lose to any of the top MMA fighters unless he spent a LOT of time learning how to guard against being taken down.


The only thing I'd add is that even when taken down the boxer can still punch very hard and fast with accuracy and locks/bars take time. (Assuming versus Rousey)
 
2014-03-06 08:57:37 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Ronda Rousey is probably one of a few females who could rape you without the use of a strapon.


Ah, the Clenis.
 
2014-03-06 08:58:21 AM  

Super_pope: nobody has ever just kept Floyd Mayweather from punching them


www.nowtheendbegins.com

This guy's done a pretty good job so far.
 
2014-03-06 08:59:44 AM  

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.



When was the last time Mayweather knocked out anyone with a single punch ? How long does a typical round go in boxing before they clinch ?

There is no way someone with a lifetime of merely a boxing skill set is going to unlearn all of that and develop a worthwhile takedown defense against even a blue belt in judo or jujitsu.

There was a poorly produced show on BET a few years ago called either "Iron Ring" or "Ion Wing" depending on if the announcer had a speech impediment or not. It was a low to no budget version of the UFC's reality show of journeymen level fighters getting a shot at the big time. Mayweather was among the celebrity team sponsors and did nothing but talk trash about MMA in general. It was either Shonie Carter or Charles Bennet that pushed their way past his 6 400 pound body guards to get in his face and tell him to STFU or get in the cage right now and get embarrassed. Mayweather's reaction of no longer appearing on the show after that was quite telling.

There have been several boxers that tried their luck in MMA and none of the did too well against serious opponents. If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does save getting that one shot knockout before the clinch. And historically boxers can't even stop other boxers from clinching in boxing when the rules forbid it.
 
2014-03-06 09:05:19 AM  
Honest question about MMA rules.  On the radio this morning, they said that as long as she had a knee down, he couldn't punch her.  But I think I've seen MMA fighters punching each other on the mat all the time.  If she got down on a knee and came after him, could he get down on his knees and punch?
 
2014-03-06 09:08:50 AM  

One Bad Apple: If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does


Oh sure, but the rules are designed to favor grappling, which I think is stupid because:

1.) Its usually AWFUL to watch
2.) Its totally useless in a real fight because in a real fight if you get on the ground and lock up some guy's arm and get him screaming, his friends are going to kick you in the face or hit you with a chair or something.  You go down in the real world you're probably not getting up until you come to.

Honestly you should have like 10 seconds to get someone locked up, and if you can't you should be separated.  That might make MMA watchable.
 
2014-03-06 09:15:03 AM  
She's right. Floyd Mayweather, Sr. wouldn't stand a chance against her.
 
2014-03-06 09:19:19 AM  

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.


Dude, have you ever watched one of his "fights".  Come on, I can hit harder than that dude and I don't really work out. His skill is speed, and he wins by landing an insane amount of punches, but none are thrown with any force.  She'd have that arm in no time if she caught him.
 
2014-03-06 09:22:32 AM  
Different article on the topic:  http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ronda-rousey-s-strategy- t o-beat-floyd-mayweather-jr--133330448.html

According to the Yahoo article: "Rousey was self-deprecating but honest in assessing that she'd likely be able to take out "Money" if she kept the fight on the ground."

According to the blog: "Rousey, an Olympic bronze medalist in judo, nonchalantly told Power 106 FM that she could beat Mayweather in an MMA fight."

I'm not in a place where I can listen to the actual audio, but here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX9aGNHHyA
 
2014-03-06 09:25:54 AM  

Super_pope: I hate it when MMA turds get all mouthy about being able to crawl up to someone who would beat the shiat out of them on approach if they weren't specifically protected from being hit in the back of the head and neck.


Also like... "I'd just army crawl after him and he'd have to run away!"  Alright well... you know he can do that faster and with less energy used than you right? So even if we pretend that the MMA rules aren't protecting you from all the weaknesses of your stupid shiat, he could still just walk away until you get tired and beat the snot out of you.

Also I think its sweet that you think you're going to just keep one of the greatest boxers of all time from hitting you.  I mean really?  I'm sure you're good at what you do or whatever, but nobody has ever just kept Floyd Mayweather from punching them.  You're not gonna be the first.  Idiot.


If that dude is one of the greatest boxers of all time, I can see why no one watches it anymore.  I watched one of his fights, and fell asleep.  Lame from start to nap time.
 
2014-03-06 09:30:58 AM  
Is this news? A MMA fighter can beat a boxer in a MMA fight. Next thing you're going to tells me is that a boxer would smoke a MMA fighter in a boxing match.

And for those of you saying that Mayweather doesn't punch hard and basing that off of his fights, he is punching people that train for years to take punch after punch in the head for 9 rounds. His punches might not seem powerful when fighting them, but somebody not trained to take that would get knocked the fark out by him, and I got news for you, unless they have a background in kick boxing, Muay Thai or old school shoot fighting, most MMA fighters aren't trained for that.
 
2014-03-06 09:31:58 AM  
Silly GIrl

Doesnt she realize Floyd already has extensive experience beating on women?

He is ready for their tactics.... except for the proceeding lawsuit
 
2014-03-06 09:32:14 AM  
How many round will it be?

She normally fights three, right?  Mayweather would just run like hell until she gassed.
 
2014-03-06 09:33:03 AM  
When was the last time Mayweather knocked out anyone with a single punch ? How long does a typical round go in boxing before they clinch ?
There is no way someone with a lifetime of merely a boxing skill set is going to unlearn all of that and develop a worthwhile takedown defense against even a blue belt in judo or jujitsu.
There was a poorly produced show on BET a few years ago called either "Iron Ring" or "Ion Wing" depending on if the announcer had a speech impediment or not. It was a low to no budget version of the UFC's reality show of journeymen level fighters getting a shot at the big time. Mayweather was among the celebrity team sponsors and did nothing but talk trash about MMA in general. It was either Shonie Carter or Charles Bennet that pushed their way past his 6 400 pound body guards to get in his face and tell him to STFU or get in the cage right now and get embarrassed. Mayweather's reaction of no longer appearing on the show after that was quite telling.
There have been several boxers that tried their luck in MMA and none of the did too well against serious opponents. If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does save getting that one shot knockout before the clinch. And historically boxers can't even stop other boxers from clinching in boxing when the rules forbid it.



She's a woman. He's a man. Nullifying most of the above.
 
2014-03-06 09:41:58 AM  

NicktheSmoker: Come on, I can hit harder than that dude and I don't really work out.


You literally have zero idea what goes into an actual boxer's punch, and are dramatically underestimating the amount of force being delivered because your concept of fighting has you expecting it to "move" the guy.  A boxer's punch is a snapping punch intended to deliver maximum impact.  He's not trying to push through you or shove you away, he's snapping his body into you by rotating his hips, focusing all that power into a sharp and extremely brief impact, and allowing the natural re-coiling of his body to pull his fist away for him.  The punch does not necessarily look devastating.  It isn't like street fighter.  He's fighting professionals, so he doesn't wind up and let you have it with a hadouken (I'm extremely amused Chrome's spellchecker knows that word btw) that looks brutal.  Also Floyd stays on his toes a lot, he doesn't sit into his punches and ground very much.  The amount of force he achieves would still shock you.   I suspect he could deliver a body blow that would literally make you poop yourself and loseconsciousness.  Later people would say it looked like he didn't hit you that hard.

What makes striking like that look really cool is when two people who aren't very good at it do it to each other.
 
2014-03-06 09:46:17 AM  

bluenote13: Come on...we know this would never happen because Mayweather would insist on a ridiculous blood test and then when she finally agreed to take the test he would find some other excuse to not fight her.

 
2014-03-06 09:46:33 AM  

muwaryer: Honest question about MMA rules.  On the radio this morning, they said that as long as she had a knee down, he couldn't punch her.  But I think I've seen MMA fighters punching each other on the mat all the time.  If she got down on a knee and came after him, could he get down on his knees and punch?


If she has a knee down, he could not knee her in the face or kick her in the face.  Punching is still all good.
 
2014-03-06 09:47:47 AM  

Super_pope: You literally have zero idea what goes into an actual boxer's punch, and are dramatically underestimating the amount of force being delivered because your concept of fighting has you expecting it to "move" the guy.  A boxer's punch is a snapping punch intended to deliver maximum impact.  He's not trying to push through you or shove you away, he's snapping his body into you by rotating his hips, focusing all that power into a sharp and extremely brief impact, and allowing the natural re-coiling of his body to pull his fist away for him.  The punch does not necessarily look devastating.  It isn't like street fighter.  He's fighting professionals, so he doesn't wind up and let you have it with a hadouken (I'm extremely amused Chrome's spellchecker knows that word btw) that looks brutal.  Also Floyd stays on his toes a lot, he doesn't sit into his punches and ground very much.  The amount of force he achieves would still shock you.   I suspect he could deliver a body blow that would literally make you poop yourself and loseconsciousness.  Later people would say it looked like he didn't hit you that hard.

What makes striking like that look really cool is when two people who aren't very good at it do it to each other.


Not to mention a boxer can't simply stand flat-footed and unleash a blow designed to knock somebody out because if it is deflected they're a sitting duck to get clobbered.

So a boxer like Floyd is trying to stun/stop you, make you keep your gaurd up.. then you'll see if he stings somebody with a quick one-two, be prepared to attack immediately with a barage and then go for the KO.
 
2014-03-06 10:11:33 AM  
balki1867:According to the Yahoo article: "Rousey was self-deprecating but honest in assessing that she'd likely be able to take out "Money" if she kept the fight on the ground."

I'm okay with that assessment. With the (mighty big) assumption that the fight got to the ground and stayed there, she'd have a chance of beating him. I wouldn't call it "likely" necessarily, but certainly within the realm of possibility.

/The actual fight wouldn't get to the ground.
 
2014-03-06 10:32:45 AM  

Super_pope: NicktheSmoker: Come on, I can hit harder than that dude and I don't really work out.

You literally have zero idea what goes into an actual boxer's punch, and are dramatically underestimating the amount of force being delivered because your concept of fighting has you expecting it to "move" the guy.  A boxer's punch is a snapping punch intended to deliver maximum impact.  He's not trying to push through you or shove you away, he's snapping his body into you by rotating his hips, focusing all that power into a sharp and extremely brief impact, and allowing the natural re-coiling of his body to pull his fist away for him.  The punch does not necessarily look devastating.  It isn't like street fighter.  He's fighting professionals, so he doesn't wind up and let you have it with a hadouken (I'm extremely amused Chrome's spellchecker knows that word btw) that looks brutal.  Also Floyd stays on his toes a lot, he doesn't sit into his punches and ground very much.  The amount of force he achieves would still shock you.   I suspect he could deliver a body blow that would literally make you poop yourself and loseconsciousness.  Later people would say it looked like he didn't hit you that hard.

What makes striking like that look really cool is when two people who aren't very good at it do it to each other.


Yeah, the physics of boxing are very mysterious lol. Ok
 
2014-03-06 10:36:36 AM  
How much to just beat up Beiber?
 
2014-03-06 10:43:47 AM  

NicktheSmoker: Yeah, the physics of boxing are very mysterious lol. Ok


If you live in any kind of a city there's probably at least one gym run by someone who won a few amature championships or something.  I suggest going in for a free introductory session sometime.  You have no grasp on what it means to really get punched until someone who can really do it takes a swipe at you.  Just a swipe to make you keep your hands up.  Or even more comedically when he grounds and pushes you around with his body if he's wearing sparing gear.  You will literally feel powerless as he just drives you all over the place like a car.

The fact that you thought working out more would make you deliver a much better punch is indicative of just how ignorant you are.  To *some* degree muscle power in the extremities contributes to a punch, but the overwhelming majority of it is technique, and timing.  So much so that its comical in fact.  A lot of the pros do very limited work with weights.

It isn't because the best boxers and hardest punchers in the world have no idea how to hit things hard, but some keyboard jokey does.
 
2014-03-06 10:58:26 AM  

Langston: Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.

You are correct, although I think she wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with Mayweather and trade punches. She'd duck in under a jab and get him off his feet, and if she managed to do that quickly, she would win. Boxers are excellent at their one discipline and Mayweather's at the top of his, but that doesn't mean they would do well fighting a person with multiple disciplines. I'd bet money that he's lose to any of the top MMA fighters unless he spent a LOT of time learning how to guard against being taken down.


No she wouldn't, not even close.

The biggest glaring example is when chyna fought Joey Buttafuco years ago, he was a fat mess and she was in shape but he best her down in no time. Two athletes equal age/conditioning then the male will always win and it won't be pretty.
 
2014-03-06 10:59:33 AM  
It's comical how much MMeatheads underestimate top boxers based on poor performances by a few scrubs that were in no way competitive fighters. You come charging in face first and try to grapple a top tier boxer and he's going to knock your farking head off with a punch you didn't even see coming. As far as a woman beating a well trained strong man in a fight... well, that's why they invented guns.
 
2014-03-06 11:10:38 AM  

NicktheSmoker: I don't agree that Mayweather is a good fighter.


"I have this opinion about someone at the top tier of his sport not being any good at it.  I can tell he's not good cause he doesn't look like he punches hard enough and only makes like 25 million dollars a fight to do it.  Meanwhile I'm on FARK so I know what I'm talking about."

At least you didn't dredge up some Internet Toughguying as you trudged out into Defeatsville.
 
2014-03-06 11:11:54 AM  

Super_pope: One Bad Apple: If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does

Oh sure, but the rules are designed to favor grappling,



Back when the UFC and other venues pretty much had no rules except don't bite or gouge eyes grapplers still dominated. In the days when mixed martial arts meant style vs dissimilar style the striking only disciplines got butchered when faced with grappling only styles

which I think is stupid because:

1.) Its usually AWFUL to watch

No accounting for tastes. I'll admit stalemates are slow especially when the audience has no idea what a real fight is beyond what Hollywood (or Hong Kong) has showed them. Broken limbs and chokes END fights more reliably than jabs.

2.) Its totally useless in a real fight because in a real fight if you get on the ground and lock up some guy's arm and get him screaming, his friends are going to kick you in the face or hit you with a chair or something.  You go down in the real world you're probably not getting up until you come to.



Ever seen a TV show called "COPS" ? Those are real fights and cops use a lot of grappling on "Teh D34dly Str33tz" every day. Don't start on the multiple opponent crap either. If you can't stop one guy from tackling you in a street fight how can you possibly hope to stop more than one ? If you find yourself facing more than one person in a fight you should be a good runner. em>

Honestly you should have like 10 seconds to get someone locked up, and if you can't you should be separated.  That might make MMA watchable.


Sorry to here about your micro attention span bro.
 
2014-03-06 11:23:08 AM  

One Bad Apple: Sorry to here about your micro attention span bro.


Just my opinion.  I think a minute sweaty hugging is boring.  I'm sure it takes impressive athleticism, I just don't want to watch some guy lay on another and tap him lightly with his hand (with literally no opportunity to inflict harm due to the position he's in) to prove that he "can't defend himself."

One Bad Apple: Ever seen a TV show called "COPS" ? Those are real fights and cops use a lot of grappling on "Teh D34dly Str33tz" every day. Don't start on the multiple opponent crap either. If you can't stop one guy from tackling you in a street fight how can you possibly hope to stop more than one ?


I have.  I don't think I've ever seen them monkey-crawl over to some guy and get him in a triangle till he submits.
 
2014-03-06 11:28:28 AM  

doubled99:

She's a woman. He's a man. Nullifying most of the above.


Mayweather also fights at up to 155. His 20 pound weight advantage will count for more but not on the ground. Remember what Royce Gracie was able to do to guys twice his weight because they didn't know f*ck all about fighting on the ground.


Even at the same weight he still has a natural advantage in upper body strength but I'd still put my money on a decision win for Ronda. Mayweather's best chance is to lay and pray. In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him then eventually get position and collect another arm for the armwoire.
 
2014-03-06 11:28:33 AM  

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.


ROTFL...all he does is nail you then ducks your punch.

Mayweather's a great fighter, no question.  But I'd give Rousey the nod here, Mayweather sticks his arm out at the wrong time and he might be called lefty from then one.
 
2014-03-06 11:31:31 AM  
You all are slippin'

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-06 11:36:31 AM  
Mayweather also fights at up to 155. His 20 pound weight advantage will count for more but not on the ground. Remember what Royce Gracie was able to do to guys twice his weight because they didn't know f*ck all about fighting on the ground.

Even at the same weight he still has a natural advantage in upper body strength but I'd still put my money on a decision win for Ronda. Mayweather's best chance is to lay and pray. In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him then eventually get position and collect another arm for the armwoire.



LOL
 
2014-03-06 11:37:20 AM  

One Bad Apple: In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him


You think she's going to out-cardio him army crawling around the ring?  Even standing and moving to her best advantage she probably couldn't do that.  He probably does 3+ hours of intense calisthenics a day during a training camp.

Where would you even get the idea her conditioning would be manifestly superior to Floyd's?  Just cause he's heavier/taller?  If you're not Lance Armstrong or some guy who runs the Boston Marathon in under 2:30, you probably aren't even in the neighborhood of being able to out cardio someone like Mayweather or Pacquiao.  She might be able to keep pace with him, I really have no idea, but we've established from HER plan that she's going to be in the more energy intensive position the entire fight.
 
2014-03-06 11:39:35 AM  

One Bad Apple: Ever seen a TV show called "COPS" ? Those are real fights and cops use a lot of grappling on "Teh D34dly Str33tz" every day. Don't start on the multiple opponent crap either. If you can't stop one guy from tackling you in a street fight how can you possibly hope to stop more than one ? If you find yourself facing more than one person in a fight you should be a good runner. em>


I hate to break it to you, but Cops is as staged as any reality show.

And Ronda said she could beat Cain Velasquez "under the right circumstances". You know, the 6'1, 245 lb, UFC heavyweight champion who absolutely dismantled Brock Lesnar, JDS (twice), etc... She is Dana White's mouthpiece for attention.

And no, Ronda would probably get her ass beat like a government mule against Floyd. Her only hope would be to try to take him down while he punched her where MAYBE his superior strength and ridiculously strong punches wouldn't get her before she could submit him.
 
2014-03-06 11:47:48 AM  
You'd think the "I could kick someone's ass using my fighting discipline that they've never trained in" arguments would eventually get boring for people, but the thread says otherwise.
 
2014-03-06 11:49:45 AM  

drewogatory: It's comical how much MMeatheads underestimate top boxers based on poor performances by a few scrubs that were in no way competitive fighters.


A lot of it is marketing.  Most MMA fans who are not also boxing fans are unaware of just how good a top-flight boxer is at his or her craft.  Anyone with even remote professional boxing experience in MMA is touted as being a serious boxer - remember how Chris Lytle and Marcus Davis were hyped.

It's ignorance, but it's not malicious or anything like that.  People hear the names like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Alvarez, Froch (I don't know boxing that well - I just know he's a boxer) and they understand that they are great boxers, but there's no frame of reference for how they compete.

It also doesn't help that professional boxing's introduction to MMA was via Art Jimmerson, and that a 42 year old James Toney was utterly humiliated by a 47 year old Randy Couture.
 
2014-03-06 11:50:23 AM  

steamingpile: Langston: Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.

You are correct, although I think she wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with Mayweather and trade punches. She'd duck in under a jab and get him off his feet, and if she managed to do that quickly, she would win. Boxers are excellent at their one discipline and Mayweather's at the top of his, but that doesn't mean they would do well fighting a person with multiple disciplines. I'd bet money that he's lose to any of the top MMA fighters unless he spent a LOT of time learning how to guard against being taken down.

No she wouldn't, not even close.

The biggest glaring example is when chyna fought Joey Buttafuco years ago, he was a fat mess and she was in shape but he best her down in no time. Two athletes equal age/conditioning then the male will always win and it won't be pretty.


This.  He's a man. She's a woman.  He'd beat the crap out of her, MMA, boxing, free-for-all, or thumb wrestling.  OK, maybe not the last one.
 
2014-03-06 11:56:59 AM  

TheManofPA: Pretty sure subby was making a sports entertainment joke


Bleacher Report IS a sports entertainment joke.
 
2014-03-06 12:14:50 PM  

MugzyBrown: Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.


James Toney thinks you are funny. As do MMA fighters. 6 months is enough time to train to be able to avoid takedowns. That's some funny shiat.
 
2014-03-06 12:15:07 PM  

Rann Xerox: TheManofPA: Pretty sure subby was making a sports entertainment joke

Bleacher Report IS a sports entertainment joke.


BAH GAWD KING! RONDA IS BEATING FLOYD MAYWEATHER LIKE A GOVERNMENT MULE! SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH!
 
2014-03-06 12:16:10 PM  

keypusher: This. He's a man. She's a woman. He'd beat the crap out of her, MMA, boxing, free-for-all, or thumb wrestling. OK, maybe not the last one.


So when Rousey was competing in Judo and beating men her size, it wasn't really happening.

Misogyny and ignorance on Fark? What a shock!
 
2014-03-06 12:23:21 PM  
Sorry. The MMA fighter vs boxer argument doesn't apply. Strength differences between male and female athletes are massive. There's a reason there aren't any women in the major sports leagues and its not simple misogyny. She'd never ever be able to overcome the strength difference between them. If Mayweather gets in one combo of punches to the face she's not recovering.

And no way the fight ever happens. Its no win for Mayweather. If he wins, he was beating up on a girl and looks like a monster. If he loses, he's a laughingstock and loses all respect.
 
2014-03-06 12:24:01 PM  
Misogyny and ignorance on Fark? What a shock!


Only dumb biatches use this word
 
2014-03-06 12:29:54 PM  

muwaryer: Honest question about MMA rules.  On the radio this morning, they said that as long as she had a knee down, he couldn't punch her.  But I think I've seen MMA fighters punching each other on the mat all the time.  If she got down on a knee and came after him, could he get down on his knees and punch?



  In boxing you can't punch a downed opponent..  (this is rare because generally a ref jumps in..  but it has happened before and the fighter was dq'ed)    In mma you can not knee or kick an opponent in the head if they have at least a hand down on the mat..   If they are down or in the action of getting up..    sometimes in exchanges against the cage a fighter that is in a clinch or working for a take down will place his hand on the mat to avoid getting kneed in the face,,   (In some other countries you can knee a downed opponent in the head)
 
2014-03-06 12:37:22 PM  
Floyd Mayweahter beat the Big Show in a professional wrestling match, which is less scripted, has more contact, and the fights go longer than in the UFC so I think he'd have no problem here.
 
2014-03-06 12:38:48 PM  

mediablitz: keypusher: This. He's a man. She's a woman. He'd beat the crap out of her, MMA, boxing, free-for-all, or thumb wrestling. OK, maybe not the last one.

So when Rousey was competing in Judo and beating men her size, it wasn't really happening.

Misogyny and ignorance on Fark? What a shock!


Was she beating men who were at the same level as her? I've taken martial arts in the past, am fairly athletic, and am a man. She would be my ass. Maybe I'm giving  keypusher too much credit but I took his statement differently. When you have one of the best men vs the best woman at pretty much every sport I can think of, the man wins. Note he didn't mention Judo. But I'd be hard-pressed to believe she'd beat him at any kind of fighting aside from that and ju jitsu.
 
2014-03-06 12:58:57 PM  

Super_pope:

You think she's going to out-cardio him army crawling around the ring?  Even standing and moving to her best advantage she probably couldn't do that.  He probably does 3+ hours of intense calisthenics a day during a training camp.


If the fight goes to the ground Mayweather will get out worked. Running away for a round (or 12) is nowhere near the workout that ground fighting puts on you. It's the difference between running a marathon and running a marathon while carrying your opponent.
 
2014-03-06 01:02:03 PM  

WinoRhino: Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.


This.
 
2014-03-06 01:06:23 PM  
Right, upper body strength would stop him from getting hip-tossed.
He'd have a puncher's chance.

Basically, Rousey nailed it, even with her tongue-in-cheek response. She'd have to monkey crawl up to him, pretty much what Couture did to James Toney.

If Floyd catches her on the way in, he wins. If not, he loses. And he'd pretty much have just the one chance. If they get tied up, the ref's not going to step in and separate them, he's going for a ride, then his arm is bending the wrong way.
He'd have a strength advantage but wouldn't have that much of a size/mass advantage, he weighed in for the Guerrero fight at 146 without really doing a cut at all. Rousey used to fight at 145 and it's a safe assumption she's doing a pretty big cut down to 135.

And no, of course it'll never happen, it was a silly question posed by a reporter.
But not, as has been noted, because Floyd has some moral opposition to beating up on women.
He has done that, to a woman not trained in martial arts, on his own time, for free.

//whoever said she'd out-cardio him in this thread is just insane, though
 
2014-03-06 01:39:44 PM  

youngandstupid: mediablitz: keypusher: This. He's a man. She's a woman. He'd beat the crap out of her, MMA, boxing, free-for-all, or thumb wrestling. OK, maybe not the last one.

So when Rousey was competing in Judo and beating men her size, it wasn't really happening.

Misogyny and ignorance on Fark? What a shock!

Was she beating men who were at the same level as her? I've taken martial arts in the past, am fairly athletic, and am a man. She would be my ass. Maybe I'm giving  keypusher too much credit but I took his statement differently. When you have one of the best men vs the best woman at pretty much every sport I can think of, the man wins. Note he didn't mention Judo. But I'd be hard-pressed to believe she'd beat him at any kind of fighting aside from that and ju jitsu.


Well, see, I didn't know about the judo.  So I will have to cop to ignorance at least.  But with your amendment, yes, I still think he'd beat the crap out of her.
 
2014-03-06 01:40:54 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: She'd have to monkey crawl up to him, pretty much what Couture did to James Toney


Oh sure, I'm fairly certain she'd win with current rules.  I just think they're dumb.  The only reason that works though is because the totally obvious counter-attacks are against the rules.  Punches to the back of the head/neck for obvious reasons, knees to the face for less obvious ones.  Coming in like that for a takedown only really work when you're in a mechanically advantageous situation for resisting strikes from the hands, and knees to the face are outlawed.

Personally I think that rule more than anything is what makes grappling so powerful in MMA.  You're basically guaranteed an approach, and someone who's more strike oriented is guaranteed to be unable to fend you off.  Not because your grappling is so awesome, but because you're relying on the rules to protect you while you do something retarded.

"I had my hand down so I don't REALLY have to defend myself as I overextend myself in an aggressive rush forward"  lol alright.
 
2014-03-06 01:41:18 PM  

One Bad Apple: doubled99:

She's a woman. He's a man. Nullifying most of the above.

Mayweather also fights at up to 155. His 20 pound weight advantage will count for more but not on the ground. Remember what Royce Gracie was able to do to guys twice his weight because they didn't know f*ck all about fighting on the ground.


Even at the same weight he still has a natural advantage in upper body strength but I'd still put my money on a decision win for Ronda. Mayweather's best chance is to lay and pray. In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him then eventually get position and collect another arm for the armwoire.


Insane mayweather would kill her and I hate him
 
2014-03-06 01:41:22 PM  
Ronda could beat me anytime....if you know what I mean...and I think you do.
 
2014-03-06 01:46:14 PM  
Super_pope:

You think she's going to out-cardio him army crawling around the ring?

You keep saying this.  I've been watching MMA for a decade and have only seen something even in the ballpark of that happen once.  One fighter wanted it on the ground and essentially butt-scooted his way around the ring trying to get his opponent to jump into his guard(names escape me at the moment).  Now do you have any actual examples of this happening or are you just going to parrot lame MMA jokes from ten years ago?
 
2014-03-06 01:46:29 PM  

doubled99: Mayweather also fights at up to 155. His 20 pound weight advantage will count for more but not on the ground. Remember what Royce Gracie was able to do to guys twice his weight because they didn't know f*ck all about fighting on the ground.

Even at the same weight he still has a natural advantage in upper body strength but I'd still put my money on a decision win for Ronda. Mayweather's best chance is to lay and pray. In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him then eventually get position and collect another arm for the armwoire.


LOL


I laughed at this too.  Only one of her fights has gone past the first round so we have no idea of her cardio stamina.  Meanwhile Mayweather trains to fight 12 round boxing matches and if you think that is just some running on a treadmill you don't know boxing.

For an actual fight, I would put the odds at 75/25 Mayweather, but it depends on the type of fight.  If she was allowed to and was able to get him on the ground, his advantage would be nullified, especially if she was able to hook the arm bar in.  If he was able to stay upright and keep her at arms length he would have a huge advantage.

As far as the Chyna-Buttofuaco match, really?  Really?

falcon176: Floyd Mayweahter beat the Big Show in a professional wrestling match, which is less scripted, has more contact, and the fights go longer than in the UFC so I think he'd have no problem here.


My favorite comment on Fark in a long time.  Not even sure where to start with this.  Less scripted than what?  Prime time tv?  That 'match' was scripted from the day Mayweather showed up.  If you don't think so, go ask Pete Rose.  He told an interviewer once he practiced with Kane for 2 hours before a WM appearance on how to take a tombstone.  One move and he practiced that long so he didn't get hurt.  If you think that Mayweather-Big Show 'match' wasn't scripted down to the last second...well, I can't help you.

Unless that was a joke then...funny.
 
2014-03-06 01:51:39 PM  

Flappyhead: ).  Now do you have any actual examples of this happening or are you just going to parrot lame MMA jokes from ten years ago?


Uh... its actually a direct quotation from her about this theoretical fight?

"I wouldn't even stand up, I wouldn't even be anywhere near him. I would just do like a little army crawl over there, and he would have to run away. I would just be skittering after him like the one dude inBloodsport that was doing the whole monkey crawl fight system. "

I used all the modifiers so it would be even more obvious to the untrained eye
 
2014-03-06 02:08:34 PM  

Super_pope: Flappyhead: ).  Now do you have any actual examples of this happening or are you just going to parrot lame MMA jokes from ten years ago?

Uh... its actually a direct quotation from her about this theoretical fight?

"I wouldn't even stand up, I wouldn't even be anywhere near him. I would just do like a little army crawl over there, and he would have to run away. I would just be skittering after him like the one dude inBloodsport that was doing the whole monkey crawl fight system. "

I used all the modifiers so it would be even more obvious to the untrained eye


There is absolutely no way she is serious when saying that.  Also I don't click BR links.
 
2014-03-06 02:11:13 PM  

Flappyhead: Super_pope:

You think she's going to out-cardio him army crawling around the ring?

You keep saying this.  I've been watching MMA for a decade and have only seen something even in the ballpark of that happen once.  One fighter wanted it on the ground and essentially butt-scooted his way around the ring trying to get his opponent to jump into his guard(names escape me at the moment).


prommanow.com

Muhammad Ali vs. Antonio Inoki?
 
2014-03-06 02:13:15 PM  

Flappyhead: One fighter wanted it on the ground and essentially butt-scooted his way around the ring trying to get his opponent to jump into his guard(names escape me at the moment)


Nick Serra.  If I recall correctly, he was disqualified for it.

tallguywithglasseson: She'd have to monkey crawl up to him, pretty much what Couture did to James Toney.


Couture walked right up to Toney and shot a single ankle pick - no monkey crawling.  The fight spent literally a total of 16 seconds on the feet.
 
2014-03-06 02:27:20 PM  

robertus:

[prommanow.com image 500x330]

Muhammad Ali vs. Antonio Inoki?


That wasn't a match, it was a farce.  The whole worked match/shoot angle is still debated.

GavinTheAlmighty: Flappyhead: One fighter wanted it on the ground and essentially butt-scooted his way around the ring trying to get his opponent to jump into his guard(names escape me at the moment)

Nick Serra.  If I recall correctly, he was disqualified for it.


No it was another one(although that one was hilarious).  I think the buttscooter was a Korean and he kept pushing himself around the cage with his hands while his opponent just walked around looking ashamed to be part of it.
 
2014-03-06 02:30:46 PM  
LOL at a boxer having superior strength.

L. O. L.

get grappling, people, learn BJJ, learn no-gi, learn judo, learn freestyle and catch throws.

Boxers have zero answer for those, and superior strength? HA.
 
2014-03-06 02:31:55 PM  

Flappyhead: One fighter wanted it on the ground and essentially butt-scooted his way around the ring trying to get his opponent to jump into his guard(names escape me at the moment).


Not sure which one you're thinking of, but that pretty much happened with Overeem and Werdum.

And the butt-scooter is one fight away from a UFC title shot.

//which I'd argue is deserved based on his performances since then

GavinTheAlmighty: Couture walked right up to Toney and shot a single ankle pick - no monkey crawling. The fight spent literally a total of 16 seconds on the feet.


He didn't literally monkey crawl (was a quote from Rousey's response) but that's not the point.

Here's the fight (not sure how this isn't DMCA'd)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvme71_029-randy-couture-vs-james-t on ey-ufc-118-28-08-2010_sport

"Walked right up to him"... I guess if you mean very carefully approached within 5-6 feet of him.
Couture never entered boxing range while standing, but with his head at about knee level, already into his takedown.
Started his single from maybe 5 feet away, grabbed an ankle and Toney fell backward. It wasn't pretty, but it didn't have to be.
Which is the point. Boxer doesn't get the KO on the way in, it's over.
 
2014-03-06 02:34:33 PM  

Flappyhead: No it was another one(although that one was hilarious). I think the buttscooter was a Korean and he kept pushing himself around the cage with his hands while his opponent just walked around looking ashamed to be part of it.


Aoki chasing Alvarez?
 
2014-03-06 02:36:21 PM  
tallguywithglasseson:  Boxer doesn't get the KO on the way in, it's over.

No disagreements here.
 
2014-03-06 02:36:49 PM  
I would add though, Floyd's footwork and reaction times are far superior to Toney or probably any boxer who's ever attempted MMA. Or, just most boxers in general.
 
2014-03-06 02:42:44 PM  

Testiclaw: LOL at a boxer having superior strength.

L. O. L.

get grappling, people, learn BJJ, learn no-gi, learn judo, learn freestyle and catch throws.

Boxers have zero answer for those, and superior strength? HA.


You do know there is a HUGE difference in strength between a top tier professional men's boxer and even a top-tier woman's professional MMA fighter, right? Men are way, way, way stronger. Mayweather walks around at around 170 lb, Rousey walks around at 150 lb. The 20 lb weight advantage plus the fact he is a man and thus has about 20 times the testosterone level? Mayweather is way stronger


mediablitz: keypusher: This. He's a man. She's a woman. He'd beat the crap out of her, MMA, boxing, free-for-all, or thumb wrestling. OK, maybe not the last one.

So when Rousey was competing in Judo and beating men her size, it wasn't really happening.

Misogyny and ignorance on Fark? What a shock!


Lol at thinking she could beat a man at her skill level. There is a reason no woman has ever made one of the big four professional sports -- she would get massacred. Hell, anyone on the UFC roster, including the lowest level Flyweight, would beat the holy hell out of her in a MMA fight. Yes, she could easily submit me. However, I have less grappling skills than James Toney. But all it will take is a few shots from Mayweather, who hits a farkload harder than any woman Rousey has been up against, and she is in deep shiat. Even if she blocks them, she will feel it hard.
 
2014-03-06 02:50:49 PM  

machoprogrammer: Testiclaw: LOL at a boxer having superior strength.

L. O. L.

get grappling, people, learn BJJ, learn no-gi, learn judo, learn freestyle and catch throws.

Boxers have zero answer for those, and superior strength? HA.

You do know there is a HUGE difference in strength between a top tier professional men's boxer and even a top-tier woman's professional MMA fighter, right? Men are way, way, way stronger. Mayweather walks around at around 170 lb, Rousey walks around at 150 lb. The 20 lb weight advantage plus the fact he is a man and thus has about 20 times the testosterone level? Mayweather is way stronger


I love when people break out the "weight advantage" argument; as if there's no evidence whatsoever that weight doesn't mean shiat if it's not applied in the proper fashion to make it an advantage.
 
2014-03-06 02:52:53 PM  

Rwa2play: machoprogrammer: Testiclaw: LOL at a boxer having superior strength.

L. O. L.

get grappling, people, learn BJJ, learn no-gi, learn judo, learn freestyle and catch throws.

Boxers have zero answer for those, and superior strength? HA.

You do know there is a HUGE difference in strength between a top tier professional men's boxer and even a top-tier woman's professional MMA fighter, right? Men are way, way, way stronger. Mayweather walks around at around 170 lb, Rousey walks around at 150 lb. The 20 lb weight advantage plus the fact he is a man and thus has about 20 times the testosterone level? Mayweather is way stronger

I love when people break out the "weight advantage" argument; as if there's no evidence whatsoever that weight doesn't mean shiat if it's not applied in the proper fashion to make it an advantage.


I agree, but I was commenting about his saying Ronda was stronger than Mayweather. There is no chance in hell that Ronda is stronger than Mayweather. Don't believe the UFC's bullshiat (i.e. their claim that Ronda Rousey's mom beat up a 250 year old man or that Ronda beat up 5 guys at once at a movie theatre once)
 
2014-03-06 02:53:00 PM  
BTW, anyone that wants to talk about power should remember what happened in Tyson/Holyfield I.
 
2014-03-06 03:07:23 PM  
Two fighters from fake sports come together. World collide. 1970s WWWF wants its supercard back.
 
2014-03-06 03:12:31 PM  
Do people still watch MMA? Just a bunch of tattooed white trash who didn't have the skill to box so they wrestle and brawl instead. This fad will end in a year or two.
 
2014-03-06 03:17:05 PM  

Rwa2play: I love when people break out the "weight advantage" argument; as if there's no evidence whatsoever that weight doesn't mean shiat if it's not applied in the proper fashion to make it an advantage.


The Absolute Division in the ADCC has some interesting results re weight advantage every now and then.  2003 certainly had some, with Marcelo Garcia beating Mike Van Arsdale, Saulo Ribeiro beating Jeff Monson, and Reese Andy beating Mark Robinson.

In 2001, we had Jean Jacques Machado beating Marcio Ribeiro De Cruz and Ricardo Almeida.
 
2014-03-06 03:18:06 PM  
OK, but what if Alex Morgan played Michael Phelps in tennis?
 
2014-03-06 03:48:11 PM  

balki1867: OK, but what if Alex Morgan played Michael Phelps in tennis?


Grass, clay or pool?
 
2014-03-06 04:02:56 PM  
WTF?
I come to a Ronda Rousey thread and all I see is a picture of a midget Filipino?


cdn.myjestik.com
 
2014-03-06 04:11:36 PM  

robertus:

[prommanow.com image 500x330]

Muhammad Ali vs. Antonio Inoki?


My first thought was Bustamante vs Ericson from a defunct UFC competitor. Ended in a draw. Butt scooting starts at about 20 minutes in. Historically significant because up until then Brazilian jujitsu was considered unassailable.

doubled99: Do people still watch MMA? Just a bunch of tattooed white trash who didn't have the skill to box so they wrestle and brawl instead. This fad will end in a year or two.



(favorite: Military fraud/6 Confirmed kills ?) You need to stay far away from any thread I'm in, sweetheart.
 
2014-03-06 04:33:24 PM  

machoprogrammer: Rwa2play: machoprogrammer: Testiclaw: LOL at a boxer having superior strength.

L. O. L.

get grappling, people, learn BJJ, learn no-gi, learn judo, learn freestyle and catch throws.

Boxers have zero answer for those, and superior strength? HA.

You do know there is a HUGE difference in strength between a top tier professional men's boxer and even a top-tier woman's professional MMA fighter, right? Men are way, way, way stronger. Mayweather walks around at around 170 lb, Rousey walks around at 150 lb. The 20 lb weight advantage plus the fact he is a man and thus has about 20 times the testosterone level? Mayweather is way stronger

I love when people break out the "weight advantage" argument; as if there's no evidence whatsoever that weight doesn't mean shiat if it's not applied in the proper fashion to make it an advantage.

I agree, but I was commenting about his saying Ronda was stronger than Mayweather. There is no chance in hell that Ronda is stronger than Mayweather. Don't believe the UFC's bullshiat (i.e. their claim that Ronda Rousey's mom beat up a 250 year old man or that Ronda beat up 5 guys at once at a movie theatre once)


I'm not arguing Ronda is stronger than Mayweather, just arguing against the claim the boxers having superior strength in general.

That's absolute bull. Retarded, all the way around.

180 grappler and 180 boxer? Similar skill level: grappler is balls stronger.
 
2014-03-06 04:45:58 PM  

mediablitz: keypusher: This. He's a man. She's a woman. He'd beat the crap out of her, MMA, boxing, free-for-all, or thumb wrestling. OK, maybe not the last one.

So when Rousey was competing in Judo and beating men her size, it wasn't really happening.

Misogyny and ignorance on Fark? What a shock!


Competition judo and a fight are two different things, if you don't realize that then you is a dummy.
 
2014-03-06 04:52:27 PM  

bluenote13: doubled99: Mayweather also fights at up to 155. His 20 pound weight advantage will count for more but not on the ground. Remember what Royce Gracie was able to do to guys twice his weight because they didn't know f*ck all about fighting on the ground.

Even at the same weight he still has a natural advantage in upper body strength but I'd still put my money on a decision win for Ronda. Mayweather's best chance is to lay and pray. In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him then eventually get position and collect another arm for the armwoire.


LOL

I laughed at this too.  Only one of her fights has gone past the first round so we have no idea of her cardio stamina.  Meanwhile Mayweather trains to fight 12 round boxing matches and if you think that is just some running on a treadmill you don't know boxing.

For an actual fight, I would put the odds at 75/25 Mayweather, but it depends on the type of fight.  If she was allowed to and was able to get him on the ground, his advantage would be nullified, especially if she was able to hook the arm bar in.  If he was able to stay upright and keep her at arms length he would have a huge advantage.

As far as the Chyna-Buttofuaco match, really?  Really?

falcon176: Floyd Mayweahter beat the Big Show in a professional wrestling match, which is less scripted, has more contact, and the fights go longer than in the UFC so I think he'd have no problem here.

My favorite comment on Fark in a long time.  Not even sure where to start with this.  Less scripted than what?  Prime time tv?  That 'match' was scripted from the day Mayweather showed up.  If you don't think so, go ask Pete Rose.  He told an interviewer once he practiced with Kane for 2 hours before a WM appearance on how to take a tombstone.  One move and he practiced that long so he didn't get hurt.  If you think that Mayweather-Big Show 'match' wasn't scripted down to the last second...well, I can't help you.

Unless that was a joke then...funny.


Chyna/Buttafucco because its relevant with how fat/old he was and how she was actually in shape at the time but in skill set they were pretty equal.

Just like rousey and mayweather about equal skill sets but I have no doubt she would not stand a chance. The second she rushes in he would hit her harder than she's ever been hit before and drop her like a sack of potatoes.
 
2014-03-06 05:18:14 PM  

steamingpile: The second she rushes in he would hit her harder than she's ever been hit before and drop her like a sack of potatoes.


When has Mayweather ever knocked ANYONE all the way out with that one punch ?

 
2014-03-06 05:26:18 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Flappyhead: No it was another one(although that one was hilarious). I think the buttscooter was a Korean and he kept pushing himself around the cage with his hands while his opponent just walked around looking ashamed to be part of it.

Aoki chasing Alvarez?


That's the one.   IIRC Werdum essentially just flopped and turned himself to keep his legs facing Overeem, Aoki literally chased Alvarez around the ring on his ass.
 
2014-03-06 05:48:57 PM  

MugzyBrown: I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.


About 99% agree.  Although I think that give Money 6 months to learn MMA and he'd hand most MMA fighters their ass.

NO doubt MMA is a brutal hard sport with a lot of physicality and technique needed, but to think Money would be in any sort of trouble with Rousy is lunacy.
 
2014-03-06 06:28:09 PM  
Just out of curiousity, what arts does everybody in the thread train in?

/BJJ & no-gi
//Judo
 
2014-03-06 06:47:35 PM  

Mi-5: MugzyBrown: I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.

About 99% agree.  Although I think that give Money 6 months to learn MMA and he'd hand most MMA fighters their ass.

NO doubt MMA is a brutal hard sport with a lot of physicality and technique needed, but to think Money would be in any sort of trouble with Rousy is lunacy.


Based on what? Can you make an argument that does not involve any kind of consideration of gender?
 
2014-03-06 06:58:26 PM  

One Bad Apple: steamingpile: The second she rushes in he would hit her harder than she's ever been hit before and drop her like a sack of potatoes.


When has Mayweather ever knocked ANYONE all the way out with that one punch ?


Never.
 
2014-03-06 07:03:56 PM  

Mi-5: MugzyBrown: I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.

About 99% agree.  Although I think that give Money 6 months to learn MMA and he'd hand most MMA fighters their ass.



James Toney thought the same thing, how'd that workout for him?  Keep in mind it's not just takedowns, a kickboxer would be drooling at the thought of facing a traditional boxing stance.
 
2014-03-06 08:49:53 PM  

bluenote13: One Bad Apple: steamingpile: The second she rushes in he would hit her harder than she's ever been hit before and drop her like a sack of potatoes.


When has Mayweather ever knocked ANYONE all the way out with that one punch ?

Never.


Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.
 
2014-03-06 08:58:49 PM  

steamingpile: bluenote13: One Bad Apple: steamingpile: The second she rushes in he would hit her harder than she's ever been hit before and drop her like a sack of potatoes.


When has Mayweather ever knocked ANYONE all the way out with that one punch ?

Never.

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.


There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.

/excellent name choice, BTW.
 
2014-03-06 09:17:12 PM  

steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.


Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.



funny.mx
For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.
 
2014-03-06 09:46:16 PM  

abhorrent1: WTF?
I come to a Ronda Rousey thread and all I see is a picture of a midget Filipino?


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I came back to the thread hoping that it would improve in that regard...but no...so I'm contributing by displaying more Rousey hotness:
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2014-03-06 09:54:21 PM  

MugzyBrown: I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.


I agree with you that Floyd would have a better chance in MMA than an MMA guy in boxing. But 6 months of training? He'd get taken down and submitted.
 
2014-03-06 10:02:05 PM  

One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.



For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.


How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.
 
2014-03-06 10:11:56 PM  

steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.


And?
 
2014-03-06 10:59:03 PM  

LoneWolf343: steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.

And?


Just pointing it out to those that took issue with that part of my post and the fact if both sexes were to do the same workout the male would see greater strength gain. Some people seem to think she has a shot because she works out but ignore a boxers workout isn't exactly easy either, most farkers would be puking within 30 minutes. I did the workout once with a buddy who boxes and usually lifted with me, never make that mistake again.
 
2014-03-06 11:23:57 PM  

steamingpile: LoneWolf343: steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.

And?

Just pointing it out to those that took issue with that part of my post and the fact if both sexes were to do the same workout the male would see greater strength gain. Some people seem to think she has a shot because she works out but ignore a boxers workout isn't exactly easy either, most farkers would be puking within 30 minutes. I did the workout once with a buddy who boxes and usually lifted with me, never make that mistake again.


So, just because you couldn't do it, that must mean that it is impossible that any woman anywhere could do it. That is far more telling about you than it is about the female sex.

General comparisons will only apply in this situation if it is impossible for the best woman to compete with the worst man. One doesn't have to try very hard to find examples of where this supposition has been thwarted, spectacularly in some cases. There is obviously a fitness overlap between the sexes, and your fist-pounding denial of it only proves that you really the most disgusting kind of male.

Throughout all of history, there have been people like you who've made claims like "Such and such minority can never compete with my class, because reasons." There are medical journals a couple centuries ago who claimed that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, and now blacks have as great if not greater representation in our roughest professional sports. The bigots will always find justification of their bigotry.

However, the most telling part of your argument is that, since it is so obvious that no woman can ever compete with any man, you are so emphatic that no woman should ever try. If what you believe is true, then you will inevitably be proven right, won't you? Then why do you care so much? Could it be that, on a subconscious level, you are aware that there is a reasonable chance that you might be proven wrong?

/Also, you seem to believe that strength is the only thing that matters in a fight, which means you are either a dumb meathead, or a dumb wimp.
 
2014-03-07 08:24:15 AM  
I guess she is allowed to have any opinion she wants, but if you look at any strength type sports (track, basketball, swimming, etc.) the world's absolute best ever women are about on par with good high school men.  AS men do not reach their physical/mental peak until mid/late 20s, this gives you an idea of how non-competitive women are against men in these types of sports.  Any fighting sport between a decently trained and conditioned man and ANY woman would be over in a matter of seconds.

As much as everybody wants to talk like Ronda Rousey could beat most men, in reality any man that is in decent shape and has trained for awhile would kick the living shiat out of her.
 
2014-03-07 09:13:05 AM  

LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.


There may be no reason, but if you look at Olympic Weight Lifters in the unlimited classes, there's a reason the top for men is 500+ lbs and the top for women is in the 300s.
 
2014-03-07 09:23:13 AM  

LoneWolf343: So, just because you couldn't do it, that must mean that it is impossible that any woman anywhere could do it


The fastest time in the boston marathon for a man is 17 minutes faster than a woman, 14% faster.  This is at a sport that limits the competitive advantage of a man's greater upper body strength.

No.  A woman at the absolute height of a woman's natural strength and ability cannot hang with a man at those limits for his gender.  Literally not at any sport.  She might be able to play a sport with professional men, but she will never compete with THE BEST men.

Holy Mangold could probably play center in the NFL somewhere.  She's never going to be the top center in the league though.
 
2014-03-07 09:31:51 AM  

LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.


You are a real farking dumbass if you really believe a man and woman of similar weight and training are equal athletically. The lowest UFC flyweight (fights at 125, walks around 140-150) would absolutely demolish Ronda (walks around at 150). There is a reason why you almost never see women at the gym benching more than 130 lbs, even women that are roided out the wazoo and have been training for years. Men have 20 times the testosterone of women. That is a huge difference athletically. Why do you think Britney Griner didn't join the NBA?
 
2014-03-07 10:55:42 AM  

LoneWolf343: steamingpile: LoneWolf343: steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.

And?

Just pointing it out to those that took issue with that part of my post and the fact if both sexes were to do the same workout the male would see greater strength gain. Some people seem to think she has a shot because she works out but ignore a boxers workout isn't exactly easy either, most farkers would be puking within 30 minutes. I did the workout once with a buddy who boxes and usually lifted with me, never make that mistake again.

So, just because you couldn't do it, that must mean that it is impossible that any woman anywhere could do it. That is far more telling about you than it is about the female sex.

General comparisons will only apply in this situation if it is impossible for the best woman to compete with the worst man. One doesn't have to try very hard to find examples of where this supposition has been thwarted, spectacularly in some cases. There is obviously a fitness overlap between the sexes, and your fist-pounding denial of it only proves that you really the most disgusting kind of male.

Throughout all of history, there have been people like you who've made claims like "Such and such minority can never compete with my class, because reasons." There are medical journals a couple centuries ago who claimed that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, and now blacks have as great if not greater representation in our roughest professional sports. The bigots will always find justification of their bigotry.

However, the most telling part of your argument is that, since it is so obvious that no woman can ever compete with any man, you are so emphatic that no woman should ever try. If what you believe is true, then you will inevitably be proven right, won't you? Then why do you care so much? Could it be that, on a subconscious level, you are aware that there is a reasonable chance that you might be proven wrong?

/Also, you seem to believe that strength is the only thing that matters in a fight, which means you are either a dumb meathead, or a dumb wimp.


You didn't read carefully, equally matched in conditioning and routine then the man wins every time, its not even close.

Now my 6'3" female cousin against a buddy who is only 5'4" it would be a lot closer and he could lose.

In an all out brawl strength is the most important thing, technique only matters when rules are implemented.

So in the end anyone thinking she stands a remote shot against him are farking morons.
 
2014-03-07 11:06:16 AM  

machoprogrammer: LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.

You are a real farking dumbass if you really believe a man and woman of similar weight and training are equal athletically. The lowest UFC flyweight (fights at 125, walks around 140-150) would absolutely demolish Ronda (walks around at 150). There is a reason why you almost never see women at the gym benching more than 130 lbs, even women that are roided out the wazoo and have been training for years. Men have 20 times the testosterone of women. That is a huge difference athletically. Why do you think Britney Griner didn't join the NBA?


Not to argue but one woman I trained with could max out at 275, which is good but still not as high as most of us who were benching over 300lbs.
 
2014-03-07 11:10:55 AM  
I was once told that MMA/UFC fans are homosexual, open or closeted, on the basis that they enjoy watching other sweaty men bearhug and roll around on the ground. I said "That's a bit homophobic and completely false." Then I logged into this thread and saw a very palty offering of Rhonda pics, even though she's smoking hot in some of those photo shoots... I have to admit I think I'm agreeing with what I was once told now. You guys are all mega phlaming gay for not focusing on how hot she is.

/Not sayin...
//just sayin...
 
2014-03-07 11:49:20 AM  

steamingpile: In an all out brawl strength is the most important thing, technique only matters when rules are implemented.



Horse. Shiat.
 
2014-03-07 12:07:55 PM  

One Bad Apple: Horse. Shiat.


Yeah.  Technique is literally the most important thing about doing... anything athletically.  Want to run faster?  Run better, that will make you faster.  Want to hit harder?  Hit better.  That will make you hit harder.  That's ALWAYS the first part of the performance equation.  Its only after your execution becomes literally flawless that improving strength will be what you look at, because doing something perfectly can't be improved anymore.
 
2014-03-07 12:21:07 PM  
One Bad Apple Do people still watch MMA? Just a bunch of tattooed white trash who didn't have the skill to box so they wrestle and brawl instead. This fad will end in a year or two.


(favorite: Military fraud/6 Confirmed kills ?) You need to stay far away from any thread I'm in, sweetheart.


I am allergic to idiots, so thanks for the warning!
 
2014-03-07 12:32:03 PM  

steamingpile: machoprogrammer: LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.

You are a real farking dumbass if you really believe a man and woman of similar weight and training are equal athletically. The lowest UFC flyweight (fights at 125, walks around 140-150) would absolutely demolish Ronda (walks around at 150). There is a reason why you almost never see women at the gym benching more than 130 lbs, even women that are roided out the wazoo and have been training for years. Men have 20 times the testosterone of women. That is a huge difference athletically. Why do you think Britney Griner didn't join the NBA?

Not to argue but one woman I trained with could max out at 275, which is good but still not as high as most of us who were benching over 300lbs.


Oh I agree, but hell, even the woman's deadlift world record is 640 lb (equipped). Is it more than most guys can do? Absolutely. But it is about 2/3 of what a top-tier male powerlifter of similar weight (240 lb) can do raw (world record male deadlift is 1015, but was done by a superheavyweight). Anyone saying women have the strength and/or athletic ability of men is way wrong.
 
2014-03-07 12:56:56 PM  

Super_pope: One Bad Apple: Horse. Shiat.

Yeah.  Technique is literally the most important thing about doing... anything athletically.  Want to run faster?  Run better, that will make you faster.  Want to hit harder?  Hit better.  That will make you hit harder.  That's ALWAYS the first part of the performance equation.  Its only after your execution becomes literally flawless that improving strength will be what you look at, because doing something perfectly can't be improved anymore.


The judo matches people were putting up as examples that rousey could hang with men at any size but the difference is those matches had rules that mandated what they couldn't do. If you have a brawl there are no rules and even in a mma style fight, mayweather would still over match her in strength and be able to break holds other women she fights may not break since he's larger and uses less energy to toss her off him.

Just because some of you are couch potatoes don't act like she's the norm for women.
 
2014-03-07 02:13:10 PM  

Adalius: I was once told that MMA/UFC fans are homosexual, open or closeted, on the basis that they enjoy watching other sweaty men bearhug and roll around on the ground. I said "That's a bit homophobic and completely false." Then I logged into this thread and saw a very palty offering of Rhonda pics, even though she's smoking hot in some of those photo shoots... I have to admit I think I'm agreeing with what I was once told now. You guys are all mega phlaming gay for not focusing on how hot she is.

/Not sayin...
//just sayin...


Don't include me in on that conversation...I did my part.
 
2014-03-07 03:01:35 PM  

Adalius: I was once told that MMA/UFC fans are homosexual, open or closeted, on the basis that they enjoy watching other sweaty men bearhug and roll around on the ground. I said "That's a bit homophobic and completely false." Then I logged into this thread and saw a very palty offering of Rhonda pics, even though she's smoking hot in some of those photo shoots... I have to admit I think I'm agreeing with what I was once told now. You guys are all mega phlaming gay for not focusing on how hot she is.

/Not sayin...
//just sayin...


Eh, she's not all that attractive without makeup

rondarouseymma.com
 
2014-03-07 04:10:26 PM  

machoprogrammer: Adalius: ...

Eh, she's not all that attractive without makeup

[rondarouseymma.com image 308x464]


Oh yea, without makeup I'd totally kick her out of bed. *eyeroll*
Abs are hot as hell on her with or without makeup.
 
2014-03-07 04:33:19 PM  

Adalius: machoprogrammer: Adalius: ...

Eh, she's not all that attractive without makeup

[rondarouseymma.com image 308x464]

Oh yea, without makeup I'd totally kick her out of bed. *eyeroll*
Abs are hot as hell on her with or without makeup.


I prefer Miesha Tate myself, but I don't watch MMA for the women's appearances. If I want to see eye candy, I use the internet.
 
2014-03-07 07:44:32 PM  

machoprogrammer: I prefer Miesha Tate myself, but I don't watch MMA for the women's appearances. If I want to see eye candy, I use the internet.


Ok, in addition to Ronda being hot as hell...she kicks ass....and dominated Meisha Tate.
 
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