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(Bleacher Report)   Ronda Rousey believes she could beat Floyd Mayweather. Well, if the promoter thinks that's what would make the most money, I guess anything is possible   (m.bleacherreport.com) divider line 127
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2014-03-06 07:03:56 PM

Mi-5: MugzyBrown: I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.

About 99% agree.  Although I think that give Money 6 months to learn MMA and he'd hand most MMA fighters their ass.



James Toney thought the same thing, how'd that workout for him?  Keep in mind it's not just takedowns, a kickboxer would be drooling at the thought of facing a traditional boxing stance.
 
2014-03-06 08:49:53 PM

bluenote13: One Bad Apple: steamingpile: The second she rushes in he would hit her harder than she's ever been hit before and drop her like a sack of potatoes.


When has Mayweather ever knocked ANYONE all the way out with that one punch ?

Never.


Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.
 
2014-03-06 08:58:49 PM

steamingpile: bluenote13: One Bad Apple: steamingpile: The second she rushes in he would hit her harder than she's ever been hit before and drop her like a sack of potatoes.


When has Mayweather ever knocked ANYONE all the way out with that one punch ?

Never.

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.


There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.

/excellent name choice, BTW.
 
2014-03-06 09:17:12 PM

steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.


Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.



funny.mx
For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.
 
2014-03-06 09:46:16 PM

abhorrent1: WTF?
I come to a Ronda Rousey thread and all I see is a picture of a midget Filipino?


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I came back to the thread hoping that it would improve in that regard...but no...so I'm contributing by displaying more Rousey hotness:
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2014-03-06 09:54:21 PM

MugzyBrown: I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.


I agree with you that Floyd would have a better chance in MMA than an MMA guy in boxing. But 6 months of training? He'd get taken down and submitted.
 
2014-03-06 10:02:05 PM

One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.



For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.


How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.
 
2014-03-06 10:11:56 PM

steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.


And?
 
2014-03-06 10:59:03 PM

LoneWolf343: steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.

And?


Just pointing it out to those that took issue with that part of my post and the fact if both sexes were to do the same workout the male would see greater strength gain. Some people seem to think she has a shot because she works out but ignore a boxers workout isn't exactly easy either, most farkers would be puking within 30 minutes. I did the workout once with a buddy who boxes and usually lifted with me, never make that mistake again.
 
2014-03-06 11:23:57 PM

steamingpile: LoneWolf343: steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.

And?

Just pointing it out to those that took issue with that part of my post and the fact if both sexes were to do the same workout the male would see greater strength gain. Some people seem to think she has a shot because she works out but ignore a boxers workout isn't exactly easy either, most farkers would be puking within 30 minutes. I did the workout once with a buddy who boxes and usually lifted with me, never make that mistake again.


So, just because you couldn't do it, that must mean that it is impossible that any woman anywhere could do it. That is far more telling about you than it is about the female sex.

General comparisons will only apply in this situation if it is impossible for the best woman to compete with the worst man. One doesn't have to try very hard to find examples of where this supposition has been thwarted, spectacularly in some cases. There is obviously a fitness overlap between the sexes, and your fist-pounding denial of it only proves that you really the most disgusting kind of male.

Throughout all of history, there have been people like you who've made claims like "Such and such minority can never compete with my class, because reasons." There are medical journals a couple centuries ago who claimed that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, and now blacks have as great if not greater representation in our roughest professional sports. The bigots will always find justification of their bigotry.

However, the most telling part of your argument is that, since it is so obvious that no woman can ever compete with any man, you are so emphatic that no woman should ever try. If what you believe is true, then you will inevitably be proven right, won't you? Then why do you care so much? Could it be that, on a subconscious level, you are aware that there is a reasonable chance that you might be proven wrong?

/Also, you seem to believe that strength is the only thing that matters in a fight, which means you are either a dumb meathead, or a dumb wimp.
 
2014-03-07 08:24:15 AM
I guess she is allowed to have any opinion she wants, but if you look at any strength type sports (track, basketball, swimming, etc.) the world's absolute best ever women are about on par with good high school men.  AS men do not reach their physical/mental peak until mid/late 20s, this gives you an idea of how non-competitive women are against men in these types of sports.  Any fighting sport between a decently trained and conditioned man and ANY woman would be over in a matter of seconds.

As much as everybody wants to talk like Ronda Rousey could beat most men, in reality any man that is in decent shape and has trained for awhile would kick the living shiat out of her.
 
2014-03-07 09:13:05 AM

LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.


There may be no reason, but if you look at Olympic Weight Lifters in the unlimited classes, there's a reason the top for men is 500+ lbs and the top for women is in the 300s.
 
2014-03-07 09:23:13 AM

LoneWolf343: So, just because you couldn't do it, that must mean that it is impossible that any woman anywhere could do it


The fastest time in the boston marathon for a man is 17 minutes faster than a woman, 14% faster.  This is at a sport that limits the competitive advantage of a man's greater upper body strength.

No.  A woman at the absolute height of a woman's natural strength and ability cannot hang with a man at those limits for his gender.  Literally not at any sport.  She might be able to play a sport with professional men, but she will never compete with THE BEST men.

Holy Mangold could probably play center in the NFL somewhere.  She's never going to be the top center in the league though.
 
2014-03-07 09:31:51 AM

LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.


You are a real farking dumbass if you really believe a man and woman of similar weight and training are equal athletically. The lowest UFC flyweight (fights at 125, walks around 140-150) would absolutely demolish Ronda (walks around at 150). There is a reason why you almost never see women at the gym benching more than 130 lbs, even women that are roided out the wazoo and have been training for years. Men have 20 times the testosterone of women. That is a huge difference athletically. Why do you think Britney Griner didn't join the NBA?
 
2014-03-07 10:55:42 AM

LoneWolf343: steamingpile: LoneWolf343: steamingpile: One Bad Apple: steamingpile:

Yeah and if she were to dare get in she would be lucky to stay alive after the first punch.

Now Mayweather has magical murder power in his hands ? How high is the body count ?

I love how people just ignore the physical differences between males and females, mentally there are fewer differences but women aren't even close physically and won't be without massive testosterone usage.

For even an equal body weight males do have an advantage in upper body strength but this isn't about arm wrestling. A smaller fighter with superior technique can beat a larger fighter with poor or no technique and in anything more expansive than merely boxing Mayweather is a fish out of water.

How is that fedora worthy? That is something left to the idiots defending the fallacy that women are equal physically.

No matter what you think even lower body strength can be developed by men at a greater rate than women, its just not up for debate.

And?

Just pointing it out to those that took issue with that part of my post and the fact if both sexes were to do the same workout the male would see greater strength gain. Some people seem to think she has a shot because she works out but ignore a boxers workout isn't exactly easy either, most farkers would be puking within 30 minutes. I did the workout once with a buddy who boxes and usually lifted with me, never make that mistake again.

So, just because you couldn't do it, that must mean that it is impossible that any woman anywhere could do it. That is far more telling about you than it is about the female sex.

General comparisons will only apply in this situation if it is impossible for the best woman to compete with the worst man. One doesn't have to try very hard to find examples of where this supposition has been thwarted, spectacularly in some cases. There is obviously a fitness overlap between the sexes, and your fist-pounding denial of it only proves that you really the most disgusting kind of male.

Throughout all of history, there have been people like you who've made claims like "Such and such minority can never compete with my class, because reasons." There are medical journals a couple centuries ago who claimed that blacks were genetically inferior to whites, and now blacks have as great if not greater representation in our roughest professional sports. The bigots will always find justification of their bigotry.

However, the most telling part of your argument is that, since it is so obvious that no woman can ever compete with any man, you are so emphatic that no woman should ever try. If what you believe is true, then you will inevitably be proven right, won't you? Then why do you care so much? Could it be that, on a subconscious level, you are aware that there is a reasonable chance that you might be proven wrong?

/Also, you seem to believe that strength is the only thing that matters in a fight, which means you are either a dumb meathead, or a dumb wimp.


You didn't read carefully, equally matched in conditioning and routine then the man wins every time, its not even close.

Now my 6'3" female cousin against a buddy who is only 5'4" it would be a lot closer and he could lose.

In an all out brawl strength is the most important thing, technique only matters when rules are implemented.

So in the end anyone thinking she stands a remote shot against him are farking morons.
 
2014-03-07 11:06:16 AM

machoprogrammer: LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.

You are a real farking dumbass if you really believe a man and woman of similar weight and training are equal athletically. The lowest UFC flyweight (fights at 125, walks around 140-150) would absolutely demolish Ronda (walks around at 150). There is a reason why you almost never see women at the gym benching more than 130 lbs, even women that are roided out the wazoo and have been training for years. Men have 20 times the testosterone of women. That is a huge difference athletically. Why do you think Britney Griner didn't join the NBA?


Not to argue but one woman I trained with could max out at 275, which is good but still not as high as most of us who were benching over 300lbs.
 
2014-03-07 11:10:55 AM
I was once told that MMA/UFC fans are homosexual, open or closeted, on the basis that they enjoy watching other sweaty men bearhug and roll around on the ground. I said "That's a bit homophobic and completely false." Then I logged into this thread and saw a very palty offering of Rhonda pics, even though she's smoking hot in some of those photo shoots... I have to admit I think I'm agreeing with what I was once told now. You guys are all mega phlaming gay for not focusing on how hot she is.

/Not sayin...
//just sayin...
 
2014-03-07 11:49:20 AM

steamingpile: In an all out brawl strength is the most important thing, technique only matters when rules are implemented.



Horse. Shiat.
 
2014-03-07 12:07:55 PM

One Bad Apple: Horse. Shiat.


Yeah.  Technique is literally the most important thing about doing... anything athletically.  Want to run faster?  Run better, that will make you faster.  Want to hit harder?  Hit better.  That will make you hit harder.  That's ALWAYS the first part of the performance equation.  Its only after your execution becomes literally flawless that improving strength will be what you look at, because doing something perfectly can't be improved anymore.
 
2014-03-07 12:21:07 PM
One Bad Apple Do people still watch MMA? Just a bunch of tattooed white trash who didn't have the skill to box so they wrestle and brawl instead. This fad will end in a year or two.


(favorite: Military fraud/6 Confirmed kills ?) You need to stay far away from any thread I'm in, sweetheart.


I am allergic to idiots, so thanks for the warning!
 
2014-03-07 12:32:03 PM

steamingpile: machoprogrammer: LoneWolf343: There are massive physical differences between the average male and the average female. When you get down to specific males and females, the differences get substantially murkier. There is no anatomical reason why a man and a woman of similar weight and training can't throw down.

You are a real farking dumbass if you really believe a man and woman of similar weight and training are equal athletically. The lowest UFC flyweight (fights at 125, walks around 140-150) would absolutely demolish Ronda (walks around at 150). There is a reason why you almost never see women at the gym benching more than 130 lbs, even women that are roided out the wazoo and have been training for years. Men have 20 times the testosterone of women. That is a huge difference athletically. Why do you think Britney Griner didn't join the NBA?

Not to argue but one woman I trained with could max out at 275, which is good but still not as high as most of us who were benching over 300lbs.


Oh I agree, but hell, even the woman's deadlift world record is 640 lb (equipped). Is it more than most guys can do? Absolutely. But it is about 2/3 of what a top-tier male powerlifter of similar weight (240 lb) can do raw (world record male deadlift is 1015, but was done by a superheavyweight). Anyone saying women have the strength and/or athletic ability of men is way wrong.
 
2014-03-07 12:56:56 PM

Super_pope: One Bad Apple: Horse. Shiat.

Yeah.  Technique is literally the most important thing about doing... anything athletically.  Want to run faster?  Run better, that will make you faster.  Want to hit harder?  Hit better.  That will make you hit harder.  That's ALWAYS the first part of the performance equation.  Its only after your execution becomes literally flawless that improving strength will be what you look at, because doing something perfectly can't be improved anymore.


The judo matches people were putting up as examples that rousey could hang with men at any size but the difference is those matches had rules that mandated what they couldn't do. If you have a brawl there are no rules and even in a mma style fight, mayweather would still over match her in strength and be able to break holds other women she fights may not break since he's larger and uses less energy to toss her off him.

Just because some of you are couch potatoes don't act like she's the norm for women.
 
2014-03-07 02:13:10 PM

Adalius: I was once told that MMA/UFC fans are homosexual, open or closeted, on the basis that they enjoy watching other sweaty men bearhug and roll around on the ground. I said "That's a bit homophobic and completely false." Then I logged into this thread and saw a very palty offering of Rhonda pics, even though she's smoking hot in some of those photo shoots... I have to admit I think I'm agreeing with what I was once told now. You guys are all mega phlaming gay for not focusing on how hot she is.

/Not sayin...
//just sayin...


Don't include me in on that conversation...I did my part.
 
2014-03-07 03:01:35 PM

Adalius: I was once told that MMA/UFC fans are homosexual, open or closeted, on the basis that they enjoy watching other sweaty men bearhug and roll around on the ground. I said "That's a bit homophobic and completely false." Then I logged into this thread and saw a very palty offering of Rhonda pics, even though she's smoking hot in some of those photo shoots... I have to admit I think I'm agreeing with what I was once told now. You guys are all mega phlaming gay for not focusing on how hot she is.

/Not sayin...
//just sayin...


Eh, she's not all that attractive without makeup

rondarouseymma.com
 
2014-03-07 04:10:26 PM

machoprogrammer: Adalius: ...

Eh, she's not all that attractive without makeup

[rondarouseymma.com image 308x464]


Oh yea, without makeup I'd totally kick her out of bed. *eyeroll*
Abs are hot as hell on her with or without makeup.
 
2014-03-07 04:33:19 PM

Adalius: machoprogrammer: Adalius: ...

Eh, she's not all that attractive without makeup

[rondarouseymma.com image 308x464]

Oh yea, without makeup I'd totally kick her out of bed. *eyeroll*
Abs are hot as hell on her with or without makeup.


I prefer Miesha Tate myself, but I don't watch MMA for the women's appearances. If I want to see eye candy, I use the internet.
 
2014-03-07 07:44:32 PM

machoprogrammer: I prefer Miesha Tate myself, but I don't watch MMA for the women's appearances. If I want to see eye candy, I use the internet.


Ok, in addition to Ronda being hot as hell...she kicks ass....and dominated Meisha Tate.
 
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