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(Bleacher Report)   Ronda Rousey believes she could beat Floyd Mayweather. Well, if the promoter thinks that's what would make the most money, I guess anything is possible   (m.bleacherreport.com) divider line 127
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2014-03-06 06:41:51 AM
Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.
 
2014-03-06 07:16:00 AM

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.


You are correct, although I think she wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with Mayweather and trade punches. She'd duck in under a jab and get him off his feet, and if she managed to do that quickly, she would win. Boxers are excellent at their one discipline and Mayweather's at the top of his, but that doesn't mean they would do well fighting a person with multiple disciplines. I'd bet money that he's lose to any of the top MMA fighters unless he spent a LOT of time learning how to guard against being taken down.
 
2014-03-06 08:11:58 AM
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
 
2014-03-06 08:13:21 AM
OMG the Canadian women's hockey team would totally beat the Red Sox in a hockey game.
 
2014-03-06 08:16:52 AM
From what I understand Floyd Mayweather is quite experienced in hitting women.
 
2014-03-06 08:17:29 AM
Pretty sure subby was making a sports entertainment joke
 
2014-03-06 08:17:47 AM
I would think Floyd would have a better shot in an MMA fight vs a top MMA fighter than the MMA fighter in a boxing ring.

Give both fighters 6 months to train, Floyd could learn enough about MMA to possibly avoid being taken down or being submitted and get some clean punches in.

Give the MMA guy 6 months to train, Floyd would eat him alive in the ring.  He'd probably go for 12 rounds of brutal punishment over the KO though.
 
2014-03-06 08:20:52 AM
At least she won't get hurt too badly, since she will only end up getting hit once.
 
2014-03-06 08:23:51 AM
So, the guy who had to cheap-shot Victor Ortiz and uses bullshiat claims of PED use to run from Pacquiaouaie(sp?) is a bad-ass again? Or, just bad-ass enough to beat up a woman?
 
2014-03-06 08:30:24 AM
Come on...we know this would never happen because Mayweather would insist on a ridiculous blood test and then when she finally agreed to take the test he would find some other excuse to not fight her.
 
2014-03-06 08:33:01 AM
james toney
 
2014-03-06 08:33:31 AM
Ronda Rousey is probably one of a few females who could rape you without the use of a strapon.
 
2014-03-06 08:36:58 AM

TheManofPA: Pretty sure subby was making a sports entertainment joke


I was sports entertained
 
2014-03-06 08:41:42 AM
I think so, too.

If it's a 'make a stupid looking mean mug every chance you get' contest.
 
2014-03-06 08:51:15 AM
Beat or Beat off?
 
2014-03-06 08:53:54 AM
I hate it when MMA turds get all mouthy about being able to crawl up to someone who would beat the shiat out of them on approach if they weren't specifically protected from being hit in the back of the head and neck.


Also like... "I'd just army crawl after him and he'd have to run away!"  Alright well... you know he can do that faster and with less energy used than you right? So even if we pretend that the MMA rules aren't protecting you from all the weaknesses of your stupid shiat, he could still just walk away until you get tired and beat the snot out of you.

Also I think its sweet that you think you're going to just keep one of the greatest boxers of all time from hitting you.  I mean really?  I'm sure you're good at what you do or whatever, but nobody has ever just kept Floyd Mayweather from punching them.  You're not gonna be the first.  Idiot.
 
2014-03-06 08:57:30 AM

Langston: Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.

You are correct, although I think she wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with Mayweather and trade punches. She'd duck in under a jab and get him off his feet, and if she managed to do that quickly, she would win. Boxers are excellent at their one discipline and Mayweather's at the top of his, but that doesn't mean they would do well fighting a person with multiple disciplines. I'd bet money that he's lose to any of the top MMA fighters unless he spent a LOT of time learning how to guard against being taken down.


The only thing I'd add is that even when taken down the boxer can still punch very hard and fast with accuracy and locks/bars take time. (Assuming versus Rousey)
 
2014-03-06 08:57:37 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Ronda Rousey is probably one of a few females who could rape you without the use of a strapon.


Ah, the Clenis.
 
2014-03-06 08:58:21 AM

Super_pope: nobody has ever just kept Floyd Mayweather from punching them


www.nowtheendbegins.com

This guy's done a pretty good job so far.
 
2014-03-06 08:59:44 AM

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.



When was the last time Mayweather knocked out anyone with a single punch ? How long does a typical round go in boxing before they clinch ?

There is no way someone with a lifetime of merely a boxing skill set is going to unlearn all of that and develop a worthwhile takedown defense against even a blue belt in judo or jujitsu.

There was a poorly produced show on BET a few years ago called either "Iron Ring" or "Ion Wing" depending on if the announcer had a speech impediment or not. It was a low to no budget version of the UFC's reality show of journeymen level fighters getting a shot at the big time. Mayweather was among the celebrity team sponsors and did nothing but talk trash about MMA in general. It was either Shonie Carter or Charles Bennet that pushed their way past his 6 400 pound body guards to get in his face and tell him to STFU or get in the cage right now and get embarrassed. Mayweather's reaction of no longer appearing on the show after that was quite telling.

There have been several boxers that tried their luck in MMA and none of the did too well against serious opponents. If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does save getting that one shot knockout before the clinch. And historically boxers can't even stop other boxers from clinching in boxing when the rules forbid it.
 
2014-03-06 09:05:19 AM
Honest question about MMA rules.  On the radio this morning, they said that as long as she had a knee down, he couldn't punch her.  But I think I've seen MMA fighters punching each other on the mat all the time.  If she got down on a knee and came after him, could he get down on his knees and punch?
 
2014-03-06 09:08:50 AM

One Bad Apple: If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does


Oh sure, but the rules are designed to favor grappling, which I think is stupid because:

1.) Its usually AWFUL to watch
2.) Its totally useless in a real fight because in a real fight if you get on the ground and lock up some guy's arm and get him screaming, his friends are going to kick you in the face or hit you with a chair or something.  You go down in the real world you're probably not getting up until you come to.

Honestly you should have like 10 seconds to get someone locked up, and if you can't you should be separated.  That might make MMA watchable.
 
2014-03-06 09:15:03 AM
She's right. Floyd Mayweather, Sr. wouldn't stand a chance against her.
 
2014-03-06 09:19:19 AM

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.


Dude, have you ever watched one of his "fights".  Come on, I can hit harder than that dude and I don't really work out. His skill is speed, and he wins by landing an insane amount of punches, but none are thrown with any force.  She'd have that arm in no time if she caught him.
 
2014-03-06 09:22:32 AM
Different article on the topic:  http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ronda-rousey-s-strategy- t o-beat-floyd-mayweather-jr--133330448.html

According to the Yahoo article: "Rousey was self-deprecating but honest in assessing that she'd likely be able to take out "Money" if she kept the fight on the ground."

According to the blog: "Rousey, an Olympic bronze medalist in judo, nonchalantly told Power 106 FM that she could beat Mayweather in an MMA fight."

I'm not in a place where I can listen to the actual audio, but here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX9aGNHHyA
 
2014-03-06 09:25:54 AM

Super_pope: I hate it when MMA turds get all mouthy about being able to crawl up to someone who would beat the shiat out of them on approach if they weren't specifically protected from being hit in the back of the head and neck.


Also like... "I'd just army crawl after him and he'd have to run away!"  Alright well... you know he can do that faster and with less energy used than you right? So even if we pretend that the MMA rules aren't protecting you from all the weaknesses of your stupid shiat, he could still just walk away until you get tired and beat the snot out of you.

Also I think its sweet that you think you're going to just keep one of the greatest boxers of all time from hitting you.  I mean really?  I'm sure you're good at what you do or whatever, but nobody has ever just kept Floyd Mayweather from punching them.  You're not gonna be the first.  Idiot.


If that dude is one of the greatest boxers of all time, I can see why no one watches it anymore.  I watched one of his fights, and fell asleep.  Lame from start to nap time.
 
2014-03-06 09:30:58 AM
Is this news? A MMA fighter can beat a boxer in a MMA fight. Next thing you're going to tells me is that a boxer would smoke a MMA fighter in a boxing match.

And for those of you saying that Mayweather doesn't punch hard and basing that off of his fights, he is punching people that train for years to take punch after punch in the head for 9 rounds. His punches might not seem powerful when fighting them, but somebody not trained to take that would get knocked the fark out by him, and I got news for you, unless they have a background in kick boxing, Muay Thai or old school shoot fighting, most MMA fighters aren't trained for that.
 
2014-03-06 09:31:58 AM
Silly GIrl

Doesnt she realize Floyd already has extensive experience beating on women?

He is ready for their tactics.... except for the proceeding lawsuit
 
2014-03-06 09:32:14 AM
How many round will it be?

She normally fights three, right?  Mayweather would just run like hell until she gassed.
 
2014-03-06 09:33:03 AM
When was the last time Mayweather knocked out anyone with a single punch ? How long does a typical round go in boxing before they clinch ?
There is no way someone with a lifetime of merely a boxing skill set is going to unlearn all of that and develop a worthwhile takedown defense against even a blue belt in judo or jujitsu.
There was a poorly produced show on BET a few years ago called either "Iron Ring" or "Ion Wing" depending on if the announcer had a speech impediment or not. It was a low to no budget version of the UFC's reality show of journeymen level fighters getting a shot at the big time. Mayweather was among the celebrity team sponsors and did nothing but talk trash about MMA in general. It was either Shonie Carter or Charles Bennet that pushed their way past his 6 400 pound body guards to get in his face and tell him to STFU or get in the cage right now and get embarrassed. Mayweather's reaction of no longer appearing on the show after that was quite telling.
There have been several boxers that tried their luck in MMA and none of the did too well against serious opponents. If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does save getting that one shot knockout before the clinch. And historically boxers can't even stop other boxers from clinching in boxing when the rules forbid it.



She's a woman. He's a man. Nullifying most of the above.
 
2014-03-06 09:41:58 AM

NicktheSmoker: Come on, I can hit harder than that dude and I don't really work out.


You literally have zero idea what goes into an actual boxer's punch, and are dramatically underestimating the amount of force being delivered because your concept of fighting has you expecting it to "move" the guy.  A boxer's punch is a snapping punch intended to deliver maximum impact.  He's not trying to push through you or shove you away, he's snapping his body into you by rotating his hips, focusing all that power into a sharp and extremely brief impact, and allowing the natural re-coiling of his body to pull his fist away for him.  The punch does not necessarily look devastating.  It isn't like street fighter.  He's fighting professionals, so he doesn't wind up and let you have it with a hadouken (I'm extremely amused Chrome's spellchecker knows that word btw) that looks brutal.  Also Floyd stays on his toes a lot, he doesn't sit into his punches and ground very much.  The amount of force he achieves would still shock you.   I suspect he could deliver a body blow that would literally make you poop yourself and loseconsciousness.  Later people would say it looked like he didn't hit you that hard.

What makes striking like that look really cool is when two people who aren't very good at it do it to each other.
 
2014-03-06 09:46:17 AM

bluenote13: Come on...we know this would never happen because Mayweather would insist on a ridiculous blood test and then when she finally agreed to take the test he would find some other excuse to not fight her.

 
2014-03-06 09:46:33 AM

muwaryer: Honest question about MMA rules.  On the radio this morning, they said that as long as she had a knee down, he couldn't punch her.  But I think I've seen MMA fighters punching each other on the mat all the time.  If she got down on a knee and came after him, could he get down on his knees and punch?


If she has a knee down, he could not knee her in the face or kick her in the face.  Punching is still all good.
 
2014-03-06 09:47:47 AM

Super_pope: You literally have zero idea what goes into an actual boxer's punch, and are dramatically underestimating the amount of force being delivered because your concept of fighting has you expecting it to "move" the guy.  A boxer's punch is a snapping punch intended to deliver maximum impact.  He's not trying to push through you or shove you away, he's snapping his body into you by rotating his hips, focusing all that power into a sharp and extremely brief impact, and allowing the natural re-coiling of his body to pull his fist away for him.  The punch does not necessarily look devastating.  It isn't like street fighter.  He's fighting professionals, so he doesn't wind up and let you have it with a hadouken (I'm extremely amused Chrome's spellchecker knows that word btw) that looks brutal.  Also Floyd stays on his toes a lot, he doesn't sit into his punches and ground very much.  The amount of force he achieves would still shock you.   I suspect he could deliver a body blow that would literally make you poop yourself and loseconsciousness.  Later people would say it looked like he didn't hit you that hard.

What makes striking like that look really cool is when two people who aren't very good at it do it to each other.


Not to mention a boxer can't simply stand flat-footed and unleash a blow designed to knock somebody out because if it is deflected they're a sitting duck to get clobbered.

So a boxer like Floyd is trying to stun/stop you, make you keep your gaurd up.. then you'll see if he stings somebody with a quick one-two, be prepared to attack immediately with a barage and then go for the KO.
 
2014-03-06 10:11:33 AM
balki1867:According to the Yahoo article: "Rousey was self-deprecating but honest in assessing that she'd likely be able to take out "Money" if she kept the fight on the ground."

I'm okay with that assessment. With the (mighty big) assumption that the fight got to the ground and stayed there, she'd have a chance of beating him. I wouldn't call it "likely" necessarily, but certainly within the realm of possibility.

/The actual fight wouldn't get to the ground.
 
2014-03-06 10:32:45 AM

Super_pope: NicktheSmoker: Come on, I can hit harder than that dude and I don't really work out.

You literally have zero idea what goes into an actual boxer's punch, and are dramatically underestimating the amount of force being delivered because your concept of fighting has you expecting it to "move" the guy.  A boxer's punch is a snapping punch intended to deliver maximum impact.  He's not trying to push through you or shove you away, he's snapping his body into you by rotating his hips, focusing all that power into a sharp and extremely brief impact, and allowing the natural re-coiling of his body to pull his fist away for him.  The punch does not necessarily look devastating.  It isn't like street fighter.  He's fighting professionals, so he doesn't wind up and let you have it with a hadouken (I'm extremely amused Chrome's spellchecker knows that word btw) that looks brutal.  Also Floyd stays on his toes a lot, he doesn't sit into his punches and ground very much.  The amount of force he achieves would still shock you.   I suspect he could deliver a body blow that would literally make you poop yourself and loseconsciousness.  Later people would say it looked like he didn't hit you that hard.

What makes striking like that look really cool is when two people who aren't very good at it do it to each other.


Yeah, the physics of boxing are very mysterious lol. Ok
 
2014-03-06 10:36:36 AM
How much to just beat up Beiber?
 
2014-03-06 10:43:47 AM

NicktheSmoker: Yeah, the physics of boxing are very mysterious lol. Ok


If you live in any kind of a city there's probably at least one gym run by someone who won a few amature championships or something.  I suggest going in for a free introductory session sometime.  You have no grasp on what it means to really get punched until someone who can really do it takes a swipe at you.  Just a swipe to make you keep your hands up.  Or even more comedically when he grounds and pushes you around with his body if he's wearing sparing gear.  You will literally feel powerless as he just drives you all over the place like a car.

The fact that you thought working out more would make you deliver a much better punch is indicative of just how ignorant you are.  To *some* degree muscle power in the extremities contributes to a punch, but the overwhelming majority of it is technique, and timing.  So much so that its comical in fact.  A lot of the pros do very limited work with weights.

It isn't because the best boxers and hardest punchers in the world have no idea how to hit things hard, but some keyboard jokey does.
 
2014-03-06 10:58:26 AM

Langston: Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.

Boxers dont realize the vast disciplines MMA fighters have, but MMA fanboys dont realize the superior strength and speed boxers have.  Mayweather could practically cripple her temporarily with a charlie horse to the butt or thigh.

You are correct, although I think she wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with Mayweather and trade punches. She'd duck in under a jab and get him off his feet, and if she managed to do that quickly, she would win. Boxers are excellent at their one discipline and Mayweather's at the top of his, but that doesn't mean they would do well fighting a person with multiple disciplines. I'd bet money that he's lose to any of the top MMA fighters unless he spent a LOT of time learning how to guard against being taken down.


No she wouldn't, not even close.

The biggest glaring example is when chyna fought Joey Buttafuco years ago, he was a fat mess and she was in shape but he best her down in no time. Two athletes equal age/conditioning then the male will always win and it won't be pretty.
 
2014-03-06 10:59:33 AM
It's comical how much MMeatheads underestimate top boxers based on poor performances by a few scrubs that were in no way competitive fighters. You come charging in face first and try to grapple a top tier boxer and he's going to knock your farking head off with a punch you didn't even see coming. As far as a woman beating a well trained strong man in a fight... well, that's why they invented guns.
 
2014-03-06 11:10:38 AM

NicktheSmoker: I don't agree that Mayweather is a good fighter.


"I have this opinion about someone at the top tier of his sport not being any good at it.  I can tell he's not good cause he doesn't look like he punches hard enough and only makes like 25 million dollars a fight to do it.  Meanwhile I'm on FARK so I know what I'm talking about."

At least you didn't dredge up some Internet Toughguying as you trudged out into Defeatsville.
 
2014-03-06 11:11:54 AM

Super_pope: One Bad Apple: If you can't grapple you have no hope of beating someone that does

Oh sure, but the rules are designed to favor grappling,



Back when the UFC and other venues pretty much had no rules except don't bite or gouge eyes grapplers still dominated. In the days when mixed martial arts meant style vs dissimilar style the striking only disciplines got butchered when faced with grappling only styles

which I think is stupid because:

1.) Its usually AWFUL to watch

No accounting for tastes. I'll admit stalemates are slow especially when the audience has no idea what a real fight is beyond what Hollywood (or Hong Kong) has showed them. Broken limbs and chokes END fights more reliably than jabs.

2.) Its totally useless in a real fight because in a real fight if you get on the ground and lock up some guy's arm and get him screaming, his friends are going to kick you in the face or hit you with a chair or something.  You go down in the real world you're probably not getting up until you come to.



Ever seen a TV show called "COPS" ? Those are real fights and cops use a lot of grappling on "Teh D34dly Str33tz" every day. Don't start on the multiple opponent crap either. If you can't stop one guy from tackling you in a street fight how can you possibly hope to stop more than one ? If you find yourself facing more than one person in a fight you should be a good runner. em>

Honestly you should have like 10 seconds to get someone locked up, and if you can't you should be separated.  That might make MMA watchable.


Sorry to here about your micro attention span bro.
 
2014-03-06 11:23:08 AM

One Bad Apple: Sorry to here about your micro attention span bro.


Just my opinion.  I think a minute sweaty hugging is boring.  I'm sure it takes impressive athleticism, I just don't want to watch some guy lay on another and tap him lightly with his hand (with literally no opportunity to inflict harm due to the position he's in) to prove that he "can't defend himself."

One Bad Apple: Ever seen a TV show called "COPS" ? Those are real fights and cops use a lot of grappling on "Teh D34dly Str33tz" every day. Don't start on the multiple opponent crap either. If you can't stop one guy from tackling you in a street fight how can you possibly hope to stop more than one ?


I have.  I don't think I've ever seen them monkey-crawl over to some guy and get him in a triangle till he submits.
 
2014-03-06 11:28:28 AM

doubled99:

She's a woman. He's a man. Nullifying most of the above.


Mayweather also fights at up to 155. His 20 pound weight advantage will count for more but not on the ground. Remember what Royce Gracie was able to do to guys twice his weight because they didn't know f*ck all about fighting on the ground.


Even at the same weight he still has a natural advantage in upper body strength but I'd still put my money on a decision win for Ronda. Mayweather's best chance is to lay and pray. In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him then eventually get position and collect another arm for the armwoire.
 
2014-03-06 11:28:33 AM

Frederick: Ridiculous.

I'm all for acknowledging the advantage MMA fighters have over boxers in a non-boxing fight.  But this is simply absurd.  I'd be willing to bet he could knock her out even if she was in the full guard.  He could disable whatever part of her body he punched.


ROTFL...all he does is nail you then ducks your punch.

Mayweather's a great fighter, no question.  But I'd give Rousey the nod here, Mayweather sticks his arm out at the wrong time and he might be called lefty from then one.
 
2014-03-06 11:31:31 AM
You all are slippin'

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-06 11:36:31 AM
Mayweather also fights at up to 155. His 20 pound weight advantage will count for more but not on the ground. Remember what Royce Gracie was able to do to guys twice his weight because they didn't know f*ck all about fighting on the ground.

Even at the same weight he still has a natural advantage in upper body strength but I'd still put my money on a decision win for Ronda. Mayweather's best chance is to lay and pray. In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him then eventually get position and collect another arm for the armwoire.



LOL
 
2014-03-06 11:37:20 AM

One Bad Apple: In a fight with no rounds she'll out cardio him


You think she's going to out-cardio him army crawling around the ring?  Even standing and moving to her best advantage she probably couldn't do that.  He probably does 3+ hours of intense calisthenics a day during a training camp.

Where would you even get the idea her conditioning would be manifestly superior to Floyd's?  Just cause he's heavier/taller?  If you're not Lance Armstrong or some guy who runs the Boston Marathon in under 2:30, you probably aren't even in the neighborhood of being able to out cardio someone like Mayweather or Pacquiao.  She might be able to keep pace with him, I really have no idea, but we've established from HER plan that she's going to be in the more energy intensive position the entire fight.
 
2014-03-06 11:39:35 AM

One Bad Apple: Ever seen a TV show called "COPS" ? Those are real fights and cops use a lot of grappling on "Teh D34dly Str33tz" every day. Don't start on the multiple opponent crap either. If you can't stop one guy from tackling you in a street fight how can you possibly hope to stop more than one ? If you find yourself facing more than one person in a fight you should be a good runner. em>


I hate to break it to you, but Cops is as staged as any reality show.

And Ronda said she could beat Cain Velasquez "under the right circumstances". You know, the 6'1, 245 lb, UFC heavyweight champion who absolutely dismantled Brock Lesnar, JDS (twice), etc... She is Dana White's mouthpiece for attention.

And no, Ronda would probably get her ass beat like a government mule against Floyd. Her only hope would be to try to take him down while he punched her where MAYBE his superior strength and ridiculously strong punches wouldn't get her before she could submit him.
 
2014-03-06 11:47:48 AM
You'd think the "I could kick someone's ass using my fighting discipline that they've never trained in" arguments would eventually get boring for people, but the thread says otherwise.
 
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