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2014-03-06 09:51:22 AM  
Calling Frozen an adaptation of the Snow Queen is like calling Aladdin an adaptation of Dune because they both have sand.
 
2014-03-06 10:03:49 AM  
Apparently, John Lassiter is a lot older than I thought. The "Wild Things" movie would have been good, I think. The Spike Jonze version wasn't really for kids at all.
 
2014-03-06 10:07:24 AM  

nmrsnr: Calling Frozen an adaptation of the Snow Queen is like calling Aladdin an adaptation of Dune because they both have sand.


It was 'inspired' by the snow queen, says show right in the credits.  They just, in traditional disney style, changed damn near everything about it's plot, beyond a few elements.
 
2014-03-06 10:09:27 AM  

Valiente: Apparently, John Lassiter is a lot older than I thought. The "Wild Things" movie would have been good, I think. The Spike Jonze version wasn't really for kids at all.


I tend to defend Disney, but Max looked a little too Disney even for me.  I know it was a short test, but it looked sort of...Disney's Max and his dog and the Purple Crayon!
If they do make a kids version, I think I'd like to see something that stays true to Maurice Sendak's writing and art style
 
2014-03-06 10:09:31 AM  

Valiente: Apparently, John Lassiter is a lot older than I thought. The "Wild Things" movie would have been good, I think. The Spike Jonze version wasn't really for kids at all.


Agreed. His version is an emotional seppuku.
 
2014-03-06 10:11:06 AM  

Surly U. Jest: Valiente: Apparently, John Lassiter is a lot older than I thought. The "Wild Things" movie would have been good, I think. The Spike Jonze version wasn't really for kids at all.

Agreed. His version is an emotional seppuku.


Good call. It's like Graveyard of the Fireflies for boomer self-regard.
 
2014-03-06 10:13:03 AM  
I still wish they'd done the full-blown porn with Jessica Rabbit.

Wait, I might have dreamed that one.
 
2014-03-06 10:13:36 AM  
This is almost as interesting as articles about how Burt Reynolds or Christopher Walken almost played Han Solo.
 
2014-03-06 10:13:40 AM  

Antimatter: It was 'inspired' by the snow queen, says show right in the credits.


I know, but I had to ignore that before I could enjoy it for what it was.

They just, in traditional disney style, changed damn near everything about it's plot, beyond a few elements.

This was above and beyond, even for disney. Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, etc. all at least retained some core elements of plot and character. Frozen kept nothing at all.
 
2014-03-06 10:18:07 AM  

nmrsnr: Antimatter: It was 'inspired' by the snow queen, says show right in the credits.

I know, but I had to ignore that before I could enjoy it for what it was.

They just, in traditional disney style, changed damn near everything about it's plot, beyond a few elements.

This was above and beyond, even for disney. Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, etc. all at least retained some core elements of plot and character. Frozen kept nothing at all.


Let it go.
 
2014-03-06 10:21:24 AM  

FarkingReading: nmrsnr: Antimatter: It was 'inspired' by the snow queen, says show right in the credits.

I know, but I had to ignore that before I could enjoy it for what it was.

They just, in traditional disney style, changed damn near everything about it's plot, beyond a few elements.

This was above and beyond, even for disney. Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, etc. all at least retained some core elements of plot and character. Frozen kept nothing at all.

Let it go.

Turn away and slam the door...
 
2014-03-06 10:23:13 AM  

FarkingReading: nmrsnr: Antimatter: It was 'inspired' by the snow queen, says show right in the credits.

I know, but I had to ignore that before I could enjoy it for what it was.

They just, in traditional disney style, changed damn near everything about it's plot, beyond a few elements.

This was above and beyond, even for disney. Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, etc. all at least retained some core elements of plot and character. Frozen kept nothing at all.

Let it go.


Hey it had key elements, there is a girl and there is snow...
 
2014-03-06 10:38:44 AM  

FarkingReading: I still wish they'd done the full-blown porn with Jessica Rabbit.

Wait, I might have dreamed that one.


That probably exists somewhere.
 
2014-03-06 10:48:42 AM  
The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in
 
2014-03-06 10:49:25 AM  
Song of the South 2?
 
2014-03-06 10:53:18 AM  

foo monkey: Song of the South 2?


Electric jigaboo.
 
2014-03-06 10:54:15 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in


I think I had "icabmobile" or something like that for my Iphone that I could "spoof" the browser based on the page.  I haven't used it for a while (this was way back when Safari and a crappy version of Opera were the only browsers available on iOs).
 
2014-03-06 11:00:34 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in


Yeah, I don't like the 'Download our Mobile App' popups that appear, but simply loading the mobile version of a website is actually web designers giving a shiat about their users, since a lot of regular websites look like shiat on a phone compared to a mobile version.
 
2014-03-06 11:02:18 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in


Chrome has an option to request a desktop page, but I've found some sites annoyingly use some method of browser detection that results in your STILL getting the mobile page. Which is bad on Den of Geek, because they have a TERRIBLE mobile layout that takes forever to read an article because it turns it into 20 swipes with an ad every third swipe. The worst part is that some articles come up in mobile on my iPad and some don't.
 
2014-03-06 11:03:09 AM  

ladodger34: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in

I think I had "icabmobile" or something like that for my Iphone that I could "spoof" the browser based on the page.  I haven't used it for a while (this was way back when Safari and a crappy version of Opera were the only browsers available on iOs).


Just looked into it. Still exists. Always leery of dropping money on an unknown entity, but at least it's only a couple bucks. Thanks.
 
2014-03-06 11:03:25 AM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, I don't like the 'Download our Mobile App' popups that appear, but simply loading the mobile version of a website is actually web designers giving a shiat about their users, since a lot of regular websites look like shiat on a phone compared to a mobile version.


True, but Den of Geek is a terrible layout that makes things worse. I generally don't mmd the mobile sites, but I HATE theirs.
 
2014-03-06 11:05:57 AM  
I wish they'd do one that revisited the "dark" years of the late 70s to early 80s - Black Hole, Tron*, Watcher in the Woods, Something Wicked This Way Comes - but I get it, those movies didn't make a lot of money then and wouldn't today.

/*As in OG Tron, not the 2 hour Daft Punk video that came out a few years back. The first one was grimy in comparison.
 
2014-03-06 11:12:35 AM  

RoyHobbs22: foo monkey: Song of the South 2?

Electric jigaboo.

 
2014-03-06 11:14:16 AM  
www.sharegif.com

/Ate my gif the first time.
 
2014-03-06 11:14:44 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: ladodger34: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in

I think I had "icabmobile" or something like that for my Iphone that I could "spoof" the browser based on the page.  I haven't used it for a while (this was way back when Safari and a crappy version of Opera were the only browsers available on iOs).

Just looked into it. Still exists. Always leery of dropping money on an unknown entity, but at least it's only a couple bucks. Thanks.


If I had to do it again, I wouldn't buy it.  But when I got my iPhone 3 years ago, it wasn't a bad option to have.  I think since then, mobile sites have become better and the browsers are a little better, too.
 
2014-03-06 11:23:41 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Mikey1969: Yeah, I don't like the 'Download our Mobile App' popups that appear, but simply loading the mobile version of a website is actually web designers giving a shiat about their users, since a lot of regular websites look like shiat on a phone compared to a mobile version.

True, but Den of Geek is a terrible layout that makes things worse. I generally don't mmd the mobile sites, but I HATE theirs.


Yeah, most of the time, the website doesn't do much to impress me either. Rather annoying, considering they picked a name with such great potential.
 
2014-03-06 11:25:28 AM  

Mikey1969: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in

Yeah, I don't like the 'Download our Mobile App' popups that appear, but simply loading the mobile version of a website is actually web designers giving a shiat about their users, since a lot of regular websites look like shiat on a phone compared to a mobile version.


I prefer Fark's mobile version against their usual layout. Things are more compact and I don't see ads.
 
2014-03-06 11:30:22 AM  
www.freakymart.com

They missed "Macky and Marky".
The heart rending tale of how Mickey Mouse's gay brothers come out of the closet, discover s&m and go to Hollywood;
only to be cheated and abused by the fat cats after they publicly dissed the boy scouts for not letting them join.
They were truly pioneers, ahead of their time.
 
2014-03-06 11:36:42 AM  
NeverDrunk23:

I prefer Fark's mobile version against their usual layout. Things are more compact and I don't see ads.

Only problem I have with the Mobile version is that I can't edit when I respond, so some threads can end up being walls of test. I think the only browser I've tried so far that gave me that option was Opera Mobile. That, and the Submit button is missing, I believe, otherwise, I agree about the Fark Mobile site.
 
2014-03-06 11:52:58 AM  

NeverDrunk23: Mikey1969: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in

Yeah, I don't like the 'Download our Mobile App' popups that appear, but simply loading the mobile version of a website is actually web designers giving a shiat about their users, since a lot of regular websites look like shiat on a phone compared to a mobile version.

I prefer Fark's mobile version against their usual layout. Things are more compact and I don't see ads.


Also it lets you pick which version you prefer. Invariably I prefer mobile Fark, but at least there's some choice. "Hey, download our app" doesn't try to chew off your face either.

/sort of hijacked the thread
//for a good cause?
 
2014-03-06 11:57:00 AM  

nmrsnr: Antimatter: It was 'inspired' by the snow queen, says show right in the credits.

I know, but I had to ignore that before I could enjoy it for what it was.

They just, in traditional disney style, changed damn near everything about it's plot, beyond a few elements.

This was above and beyond, even for disney. Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, etc. all at least retained some core elements of plot and character. Frozen kept nothing at all.


...and yet managed to be a great movie and win two Oscars.  Knowing the story of the 'Snow Queen', I think Disney actually was in the right to change the story as they did.
 
2014-03-06 11:59:22 AM  
Disney was really casting around for a new direction in the late seventies.

You could tell they still wanted to make Mary Poppins over and over again, or like have a talking dog or monkey.

It was pretty bad.  I have a lot of affection for The Black Hole, but it's like 80% nostalgia.
 
2014-03-06 12:02:29 PM  

bborchar: ...and yet managed to be a great movie and win two Oscars.


Oh, it was a good movie, but it wasn't in any way, shape, or form, the Snow Queen.
 
2014-03-06 12:17:27 PM  

Antimatter: says show right in the credits


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-06 12:36:20 PM  

nmrsnr: bborchar: ...and yet managed to be a great movie and win two Oscars.

Oh, it was a good movie, but it wasn't in any way, shape, or form, the Snow Queen.


...there's "snow", and there's a "queen".  Everything else is flexible.
 
2014-03-06 12:37:05 PM  

foo monkey: Song of the South 2?


That was remade as 12 Years a Slave. Zippety-don't-dah.
 
2014-03-06 12:59:03 PM  

FarkingReading: I still wish they'd done the full-blown porn with Jessica Rabbit.

Wait, I might have dreamed that one.


The original concept for Cool World apparently was supposed to be like that until the studio hijacked the R-rated script and made it PG-13, apparently at the behest of Kim Basinger. Good chance it still would have sucked, but apparently that's part of the reason why is sucked so badly.
 
2014-03-06 12:59:08 PM  
Somewhere at Disney there is a color palette with each of the princesses arranged by hair color and ethnicity.  There are blank squares.  Films are being developed solely to fill them in.  It's sort of like the Season 2 premiere of "Hannibal."
 
2014-03-06 01:06:29 PM  

verbaltoxin: I wish they'd do one that revisited the "dark" years of the late 70s to early 80s - Black Hole, Tron*, Watcher in the Woods, Something Wicked This Way Comes - but I get it, those movies didn't make a lot of money then and wouldn't today.

/*As in OG Tron, not the 2 hour Daft Punk video that came out a few years back. The first one was grimy in comparison.


They been doing it though. Race to Witch Mountain and Fright Night were both Disney films.

I also liked the Sorcerer's Apprentice in the same vein, but I'm the only one.

I just hope Disney doesn't stop making its own movies like those, now that they have Marvel and Star Wars.

Black Hole remake? Sure!
 
2014-03-06 01:07:11 PM  

Mikey1969: NeverDrunk23:

I prefer Fark's mobile version against their usual layout. Things are more compact and I don't see ads.

Only problem I have with the Mobile version is that I can't edit when I respond, so some threads can end up being walls of test. I think the only browser I've tried so far that gave me that option was Opera Mobile. That, and the Submit button is missing, I believe, otherwise, I agree about the Fark Mobile site.


Guys! Guys! Neil DeGrasse Tyson just trolled Gravity on twitter! And it's pretty hilarious!

Or, the iPhones fingerprint sensor has already been hacked!!! (How long has that been out, now?)

Besides those things, I enjoy Farks mobile layout.
 
2014-03-06 01:40:41 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: FarkingReading: I still wish they'd done the full-blown porn with Jessica Rabbit.

Wait, I might have dreamed that one.

The original concept for Cool World apparently was supposed to be like that until the studio hijacked the R-rated script and made it PG-13, apparently at the behest of Kim Basinger. Good chance it still would have sucked, but apparently that's part of the reason why is sucked so badly.


Interesting.

Still glad I didn't see it!
 
2014-03-06 01:53:39 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: The article was interesting enough for me to overlook the typos, until the website discovered I was on a phone (well after the page had already loaded) and hijacked the browser to auto-direct me to a mobile site. I don't know why, but that sort of thing (auto-detect browser; annoy in touchscreen-tailored fashion!) frustrates me.

Is there a mobile browser that nixes all that crap? I haven't really looked into it, but maybe it's time.

"It looks like you're running Browser X! Would you like to download another useless app you could just as easily have found on Ye Olde Appe Store if you really wanted it? Huh? Huh??" (Tries to hit X on screen; page moves farther down and bumps the ad under my finger causing it to load)

/coffee's kicking in


Try being an old fart with shaky hands.  Even when the dang X doesn't move I have trouble hitting it.

/Off my lawn?  Not sure what old guy meme to close with
 
2014-03-06 03:13:13 PM  

Doc Batarang: verbaltoxin: I wish they'd do one that revisited the "dark" years of the late 70s to early 80s - Black Hole, Tron*, Watcher in the Woods, Something Wicked This Way Comes - but I get it, those movies didn't make a lot of money then and wouldn't today.

/*As in OG Tron, not the 2 hour Daft Punk video that came out a few years back. The first one was grimy in comparison.

They been doing it though. Race to Witch Mountain and Fright Night were both Disney films.

I also liked the Sorcerer's Apprentice in the same vein, but I'm the only one.

I just hope Disney doesn't stop making its own movies like those, now that they have Marvel and Star Wars.

Black Hole remake? Sure!


Disney's the largest entertainment company in the world. An octopus doesn't eat its own tentacles. There will be many more non-Marvel/Star Wars content to come.

/Am catching up on old Disney actually.
//Better get used to it when the baby comes.
 
2014-03-06 03:18:31 PM  

verbaltoxin: An octopus doesn't eat its own tentacles.



It must be my cold medicine but I reread that three times as testicles.
 
2014-03-06 03:25:56 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Guys! Guys! Neil DeGrasse Tyson just trolled Gravity on twitter! And it's pretty hilarious!

Or, the iPhones fingerprint sensor has already been hacked!!! (How long has that been out, now?)


I'm in the market for a castle, but it will have to cost less than my apartment in Manhattan.
 
2014-03-06 03:29:44 PM  
Chanticler was made by Don Bluth studios as Rock A Doodle (1991).
 
2014-03-06 03:37:38 PM  

Wellon Dowd: ThatBillmanGuy: Guys! Guys! Neil DeGrasse Tyson just trolled Gravity on twitter! And it's pretty hilarious!

Or, the iPhones fingerprint sensor has already been hacked!!! (How long has that been out, now?)

I'm in the market for a castle, but it will have to cost less than my apartment in Manhattan.


Well, I know some black people not amused with white people who may know how to hook you up. They are the meme the world needs.
 
2014-03-06 04:18:40 PM  
I sometimes daydream about Disney doing VC Andrews series' as feature length animated movies.
 
2014-03-06 04:33:06 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Wellon Dowd: ThatBillmanGuy: Guys! Guys! Neil DeGrasse Tyson just trolled Gravity on twitter! And it's pretty hilarious!

Or, the iPhones fingerprint sensor has already been hacked!!! (How long has that been out, now?)

I'm in the market for a castle, but it will have to cost less than my apartment in Manhattan.

Well, I know some black people not amused with white people who may know how to hook you up. They are the meme the world needs.


I need to find the one perfect dog Vine for my needs.
 
2014-03-06 06:25:05 PM  

hollowmoon: Chanticler was made by Don Bluth studios as Rock A Doodle (1991).


Mentioned in TFA.
 
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